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Subject: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: Admiral Akbar on 01/14/11 at 11:34 am
If you ask me, it's only fair that this topic is split between the late Baby Boomers and Generation X, since the explosion of grunge and alternative rock in 1991 seemingly split the two for good as far as music preferences are concerned.
For the late Boomers, this is relatively easy. My mother and stepmother would constantly listen to pop-country like Garth Brooks and Shania Twain (and probably still do), and I remember them liking stuff like Celine Dion, Whitney Houston, Michael Bolton (ew) and even some R&B like R. Kelly and Boys II Men. Seeing as how "country that wasn't really country" was almost omnipresent on the Billboard Albums chart, it wouldn't be a stretch to conclude that this generation preferred country and soft-rock/R&B in the 90's.
As far as Gen X is concerned, grunge is the obvious answer, but I believe that should be broadened to include all alternative rock. Britpop, grunge, post-grunge, early pop-punk, and alternative was really in for most of the 90's. I remember my older cousins and younger aunts and uncles constantly listening to Nevermind, Ten and Vs., Superunknown, anything by the Chili Peppers, and near the end of the 90's bands like 3 Doors Down and Creed were almost everywhere. Gangsta rap had a really good run in the mid 90's, and the whole bling era spawned several hits in '97-98, but I don't think it was quite as big as alternative rock, though by the late 90's it was probably pretty obvious that hip hop would rule the 00's.
Teen pop, despite how big it was, I think was mostly consumed by preteens, kids, and younger high schoolers at the time - it was mostly a Gen Y thing.
What do you guys think?
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: Emman on 01/14/11 at 12:05 pm
R&B is definitely the genre the defined the 90's, everyone thinks grunge defined the 90's, but that was only a small segment(young white males mostly) of the music consuming populace. Grunge has to be one of the MOST overated music genres of all time, really it wasn't THAT important. Heck, how was it different from other music styles of the past, original? Give me a break. Gen X was alot more than just young white males(and even alot of them didn't listen to grunge).
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: yelimsexa on 01/14/11 at 12:28 pm
R&B is definitely the genre the defined the 90's, everyone thinks grunge defined the 90's, but that was only a small segment(young white males mostly) of the music consuming populace. Grunge has to be one of the MOST overated music genres of all time, really it wasn't THAT important. Heck, how was it different from other music styles of the past, original? Give me a break. Gen X was alot more than just young white males(and even alot of them didn't listen to grunge).
The stuff that you list under the "older boomers" is the music that has aged well the least, and that's something I noticed about musical trends as early as the '50s, where the non-rock pop which were remnants of early 20th Century Tin Pan Alley pop by artists such as Perry Como and Andy Williams were mainly listened to members of the WWI-WWII generation; which became largely obscure and raw rather quickly with of course the new rock and R&B sounds remaining "timeless classics" to this day. When was the last time you heard a Mariah, Sarah McLaughlin, Celine, or Michael Bolton song on the radio on a non-current hits station? It was the "homemaker and shopping mall" music, and many people of that demographic find the music of the '60s-early '80s superior to that formulatic, predictable stuff. It was made for VH1 and not MTV. You'll find some of this stuff now in the "easy listening" section even though it's pretty recent. Those same people also liked the pop-country music of the late '90s (Shania, LeeAnn Rimes, etc.), and a lot of that is also quite disposable.
But RAP music also rose prominantly during the '90s and was originally one of the things I DESPISED about the '90s after the '80s ended. Starting with MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice in 1990, through Dr. Dre and NWA for Gangsta rap a little later to TuPac and Notorious B.I.G. in the mid-90s to Jay Z and Eminem ushering in the Glam Rap era at the end, no style defined urban culture in the '90s quite like rap music, changing consistantly and making lots of crossover. Toward the end of the '90s R&B music started to merge with rap music as well. Yes, I still don't like lots of '90s rap because of the violence factor, but it definately had a message during the '90s and many books have already been published about that subject. With the "percussion and vocal only songs" becoming significantly more prominant than in decades past, rap was easy to pick out among '90s music genres just like how rock became dominant during the '60s. In fact I probably heard more airplay of rap songs than grunge songs during the '90s as that genre had more crossover hits and airplay than a more alternative-focused grunge.
For people who were into dance/club music, Eurodance was the genre that defined the '90s the most, with some House at the beginning and the Trance/Electronica at the end.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: Admiral Akbar on 01/14/11 at 12:37 pm
For people who were into dance/club music, Eurodance was the genre that defined the '90s the most, with some House at the beginning and the Trance/Electronica at the end.
Yes I forgot about 90's dance. 'What is Love', 'Another Night', and a lot of songs by Technotronic and C+C Music Factory received a lot of exposure in the early 90's and was primarily geared toward Gen X. The late 90's saw stuff like 'We Like to Party' and other really uplifting Teen-Popish dance for older Gen Yers. By the early 00's pop-rock bands like No Doubt had ventured into club music with stuff like 'Hella Good'.
Dance music was constantly evolving throughout the decade, much like hip hop and modern rock.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: JTCool on 01/14/11 at 2:00 pm
I always thought country music had a big boom in the 90s. I'm too young to remember, but my parents sure have a lot of cds from artists that were popular around that time like Shania, Faith Hill, Brooks & Dunn, Tim McGraw, Garth Brooks, etc.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: nicole1977 on 01/14/11 at 6:52 pm
I'm going to make somebody mad up in here, but being a late Gen-Xer, grunge WAS NOT the only musical genre that define the 90s. I know because I was there. R&B, adult contemporary, grunge, alternative rock, and country dominated the 90s, and whoever said that rap dominated the 90s doesn't know what they are talking about. The only form of rap that dominated the 90s was gangsta rap, but it didn't last very long because of the violent content and the murders of 2Pac and Biggie Smalls. Rap didn't really dominated until the 2000s hit, but the 90s dominated music genres were R&B, adult contemporary, grunge/alternative rock, and country. If you don't believe me, go to the Billboard Hot 100 chart in each year of the 90s decade, and you will see what music genres that were the most popular. Back in the 90s you have to know how to sing in order to get a record deal. Now today's R&B is a bunch of autotune crap! I think that the 90s was the last decade of good music of any genre. The early to mid 90s was STRICTLY Generation X. The New Jack Swing movement was for Generation X.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: RG1995 on 01/14/11 at 7:09 pm
I think Grunge is kind of the Disco of the 1990s in a way(not musically of course :P). When I think 70s, I think Disco. When I think 90s, I think Grunge. I wasn't really in the 90s until the latter part so I just think Grunge when I think the 90s. It's just the way it is for me. I suppose I also think of Gangsta Rap as a secondary choice too.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: yelimsexa on 01/14/11 at 9:14 pm
I think Grunge is kind of the Disco of the 1990s in a way(not musically of course :P). When I think 70s, I think Disco. When I think 90s, I think Grunge. I wasn't really in the 90s until the latter part so I just think Grunge when I think the 90s. It's just the way it is for me. I suppose I also think of Gangsta Rap as a secondary choice too.
I disagree. Grunge is more like the Punk of the '90s and Eurodance is sort of the Disco of the '90s; it's just that the former had a bigger backlash in the '90s. Grunge is rooted in punk and later post-punk and finally Death Metal; whereas Eurodance is rooted in disco and later Freestyle and finally Detroit Techno.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: Brian06 on 01/14/11 at 9:17 pm
Lots of things: Slow R&B, new jack swing, grunge/alternative rock, gangsta rap, eurodance, teen pop, country pop, latin pop, adult contemporary
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: RG1995 on 01/14/11 at 10:01 pm
I disagree. Grunge is more like the Punk of the '90s and Eurodance is sort of the Disco of the '90s; it's just that the former had a bigger backlash in the '90s. Grunge is rooted in punk and later post-punk and finally Death Metal; whereas Eurodance is rooted in disco and later Freestyle and finally Detroit Techno.
I didn't mean it like that. I wasn't comparing Disco to Grunge musically. I was just saying that when I think of the 70s, I think of the late 70s and Disco. When I think of the 90s, I think of the early-mid 90s and Grunge.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: nicole1977 on 01/14/11 at 11:39 pm
Lots of things: Slow R&B, new jack swing, grunge/alternative rock, gangsta rap, eurodance, teen pop, country pop, latin pop, adult contemporary
THANK YOU!!!!! Finally, somebody that's in the same page as I am. I think that grunge is VERY overrated. Grunge was NOT the dominate music genre of the decade. In the early to mid 90s, new jack swing, slow R&B, house, adult comtemporary, country pop, gangsta rap, grunge/alternative rock, progressive rock dominated. I was there. In the late 90s, Latin pop, Teen pop, country pop, and glam rap (bling bling) dominated.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: 80sfan on 01/15/11 at 2:15 am
Actually, there was no ONE defining music of the 90's. When it came to music genres in the 90's, the 90's was actually very varied and diverse and that's one thing I love about it! Unlike the 00's where rap and r n' b dominated or the 80's where synth and electronica dominated, the 90's had no one genre that really shined.
Cheers to the 90's. 8) http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/02/beerchug.gif
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: Brian06 on 01/15/11 at 2:30 am
Actually, there was no ONE defining music of the 90's. When it came to music genres in the 90's, the 90's was actually very varied and diverse and that's one thing I love about it! Unlike the 00's where rap and r n' b dominated or the 80's where synth and electronica dominated, the 90's had no one genre that really shined.
Cheers to the 90's. 8) http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/02/beerchug.gif
That's what I like best about the '90s I must say, since I like a variety. You had your rock, pop, r&b, rap and that's how I like it. I go from Christina Aguilera to Pearl Jam to Aaliyah. All depends on what mood I'm in. 8)
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: nicole1977 on 01/15/11 at 8:41 am
That's what I like best about the '90s I must say, since I like a variety. You had your rock, pop, r&b, rap and that's how I like it. I go from Christina Aguilera to Pearl Jam to Aaliyah. All depends on what mood I'm in. 8)
That's what I missed about the 90s too. That's right, I'm tired of people saying that grunge was the dominated music in the 90s when it wasn't. Yeah in the early 90s, it became popular, but I'm not going to sit there and say that they dominated the whole decade because it didn't. I like diversity. In my opinion, the 90s was the best decade for music because it was diverse. You can listen to Soundgarden, R. Kelly, Dr. Dre, La Bouche in one setting. Hip hop in the early 90s was diverse as well. It wasnt ALL gangsta rap. You had your political rap, jazz-rap, pop-rap, booty rap, and all kinds. No music genre in the 90s was dominating the decade. I miss the 80s and 90s so much.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: Admiral Akbar on 01/15/11 at 9:04 am
Actually, there was no ONE defining music of the 90's. When it came to music genres in the 90's, the 90's was actually very varied and diverse and that's one thing I love about it! Unlike the 00's where rap and r n' b dominated or the 80's where synth and electronica dominated, the 90's had no one genre that really shined.
Cheers to the 90's. 8) http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/02/beerchug.gif
I agree, but you could say that about any decade (except the 00's). The 80's had New Wave and Synth Pop, but they also had glam metal, hard rock, and by the end of the 80's alternative rock, hip hop, house, and even thrash (Metallica's ...And Justice for All was a Top Ten record and spawned a Top 40 song ) was really big too. The 70's had disco, obviously, but they also had hard rock, early Sabbath-esque metal, glam rock, country, funk, and the counterculture was still going strong for most of the decade. The 60's...well, you get the idea. Honestly, I think the 00's are the only decade where there was an obvious dominant genre. Sure there was emo, nu metal, country, and teen pop, but none of them held a candle to hip hop on the charts. At least in the 90's alternative rock had some serious competition with R&B, country, and hip hop.
Also, while grunge wasn't the most popular genre (though Nirvana and Pearl Jam remain the most popular bands of the decade), it definitely got the feel and attitude of the 90's going, much like the New Wave and glam metal explosions of the late 70's/early 80's got the 80's going.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: nicole1977 on 01/15/11 at 1:32 pm
I agree, but you could say that about any decade (except the 00's). The 80's had New Wave and Synth Pop, but they also had glam metal, hard rock, and by the end of the 80's alternative rock, hip hop, house, and even thrash (Metallica's ...And Justice for All was a Top Ten record and spawned a Top 40 song ) was really big too. The 70's had disco, obviously, but they also had hard rock, early Sabbath-esque metal, glam rock, country, funk, and the counterculture was still going strong for most of the decade. The 60's...well, you get the idea. Honestly, I think the 00's are the only decade where there was an obvious dominant genre. Sure there was emo, nu metal, country, and teen pop, but none of them held a candle to hip hop on the charts. At least in the 90's alternative rock had some serious competition with R&B, country, and hip hop.
Also, while grunge wasn't the most popular genre (though Nirvana and Pearl Jam remain the most popular bands of the decade), it definitely got the feel and attitude of the 90's going, much like the New Wave and glam metal explosions of the late 70's/early 80's got the 80's going.
I think that grunge and gangsta rap got the 90s going, and I wish that hip hop wasn't the dominant genre in the 00s because hip hop became pop and when a certain genre goes pop, that's when it went downhill. Hip hop in the 00s is CORNY CORNY CORNY!!!! It doesn't have the lyrical content and the edge that 80s and 90s rap had.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: Emman on 01/15/11 at 4:32 pm
I think new jack swing was a bridge from the 80's to the 90's(even though it is more 90's style), I also think house music got the 90's started too. New jack swing had a good run from about 1987 to 1995, one of the songs I remember growing up to was Boys 2 Mens' Motownphilly :).
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: nicole1977 on 01/15/11 at 6:03 pm
I think new jack swing was a bridge from the 80's to the 90's(even though it is more 90's style), I also think house music got the 90's started too. New jack swing had a good run from about 1987 to 1995, one of the songs I remember growing up to was Boys 2 Mens' Motownphilly :).
I'm from Philly, and let me tell you. Back in the day, when Boyz II Men hit the scene, Philly went WILD! My aunt went to school with Boyz II Men. New Jack Swing, to me, was a transitioning music moving from the 80s to the 90s and what a beautiful transition it was. I'm so glad that you mentioned that New Jack Swing lasted for 8 years instead of 6 years because a lot of sources said that New Jack Swing ran from 1987 to 1993. I disagree because in early 1995, it was still some New Jack Swing songs left. I believe that New Jack Swing died out in mid 1995. The New Jack Swing was the soundtrack of my preteen and teenaged life. When I was in junior high in the late 80s, New Jack Swing started to blow up big time, and it dominated urban radio. Even veteran artists like Earth, Wind, and Fire, Quincy Jones, Teena Marie (RIP), Stephanie Mills, James Ingrams, Al Green, etc dabbed into the New Jack Swing. I remember being 12 in the 7th grade in 1989, and my father took me and my brother to a New Jack Swing concert in September of 1989. It was ALL THAT! It had The Boys (Dial My Heart), Heavy D and The Boyz, MC Hammer, Kool Moe Dee, Three Times Dope, and Guy. I remember seeing Kid from Kid and Play sitting at the balcony, and I waved at him, and he waved back at me. From 1988 when I started junior high at 11 years old to 1995 when I graduated out of high school, New Jack Swing represented my preteen and teenaged life.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: tv on 01/15/11 at 6:06 pm
I'm from Philly, and let me tell you. Back in the day, when Boyz II Men hit the scene, Philly went WILD! My aunt went to school with Boyz II Men. New Jack Swing, to me, was a transitioning music moving from the 80s to the 90s and what a beautiful transition it was. I'm so glad that you mentioned that New Jack Swing lasted for 8 years instead of 6 years because a lot of sources said that New Jack Swing ran from 1987 to 1993. I disagree because in early 1995, it was still some New Jack Swing songs left. I believe that New Jack Swing died out in mid 1995. The New Jack Swing was the soundtrack of my preteen and teenaged life. When I was in junior high in the late 80s, New Jack Swing started to blow up big time, and it dominated urban radio. Even veteran artists like Earth, Wind, and Fire, Quincy Jones, Teena Marie (RIP), Stephanie Mills, James Ingrams, Al Green, etc dabbed into the New Jack Swing. I remember being 12 in the 7th grade in 1989, and my father took me and my brother to a New Jack Swing concert in September of 1989. It was ALL THAT! It had The Boys (Dial My Heart), Heavy D and The Boyz, MC Hammer, Kool Moe Dee, Three Times Dope, and Guy. I remember seeing Kid from Kid and Play sitting at the balcony, and I waved at him, and he waved back at me. From 1988 when I started junior high at 11 years old to 1995 when I graduated out of high school, New Jack Swing represented my preteen and teenaged life.
Heavy D is a forgotten artist from that whole era in my opinion.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: nicole1977 on 01/15/11 at 6:14 pm
Heavy D is a forgotten artist from that whole era in my opinion.
I was talking about the late 80s and early 90s when he was hot. Believe me, Heavy D was long forgotten when the 90s started to progress.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: tv on 01/15/11 at 6:29 pm
The stuff that you list under the "older boomers" is the music that has aged well the least, and that's something I noticed about musical trends as early as the '50s, where the non-rock pop which were remnants of early 20th Century Tin Pan Alley pop by artists such as Perry Como and Andy Williams were mainly listened to members of the WWI-WWII generation; which became largely obscure and raw rather quickly with of course the new rock and R&B sounds remaining "timeless classics" to this day. When was the last time you heard a Mariah, Sarah McLaughlin, Celine, or Michael Bolton song on the radio on a non-current hits station? It was the "homemaker and shopping mall" music, and many people of that demographic find the music of the '60s-early '80s superior to that formulatic, predictable stuff. It was made for VH1 and not MTV. You'll find some of this stuff now in the "easy listening" section even though it's pretty recent. Those same people also liked the pop-country music of the late '90s (Shania, LeeAnn Rimes, etc.), and a lot of that is also quite disposable.
But RAP music also rose prominantly during the '90s and was originally one of the things I DESPISED about the '90s after the '80s ended. Starting with MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice in 1990, through Dr. Dre and NWA for Gangsta rap a little later to TuPac and Notorious B.I.G. in the mid-90s to Jay Z and Eminem ushering in the Glam Rap era at the end, no style defined urban culture in the '90s quite like rap music, changing consistantly and making lots of crossover. Toward the end of the '90s R&B music started to merge with rap music as well. Yes, I still don't like lots of '90s rap because of the violence factor, but it definately had a message during the '90s and many books have already been published about that subject. With the "percussion and vocal only songs" becoming significantly more prominant than in decades past, rap was easy to pick out among '90s music genres just like how rock became dominant during the '60s. In fact I probably heard more airplay of rap songs than grunge songs during the '90s as that genre had more crossover hits and airplay than a more alternative-focused grunge.
For people who were into dance/club music, Eurodance was the genre that defined the '90s the most, with some House at the beginning and the Trance/Electronica at the end.
Eminem is glam rap? I really never though of him as that.
Puff Daddy and Mariah Carey made mixing Rap and R&B popular. Puffy was sure important in the late 90's there for a couple years.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: nicole1977 on 01/15/11 at 6:32 pm
Eminem is glam rap? I really never though of him as that.
Puff Daddy and Mariah Carey made mixing Rap and R&B popular. Puffy was sure important in the late 90's there for a couple years.
I liked Puff Daddy in the 90s. I don't like him now. He sold out.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: tv on 01/15/11 at 6:34 pm
I was talking about the late 80s and early 90s when he was hot. Believe me, Heavy D was long forgotten when the 90s started to progress.
I was just looking at his discography on wikipedia. His last big hit was "Big Daddy" in 1997 which peaked at #18 on the Hot 100, #2 rap singles, and #5 on the R&B charts.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: nicole1977 on 01/15/11 at 6:53 pm
I was just looking at his discography on wikipedia. His last big hit was "Big Daddy" in 1997 which peaked at #18 on the Hot 100, #2 rap singles, and #5 on the R&B charts.
Really? I never heard that song before. I thought that he was long forgotten by 1995. Oh well, thanks for the information.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: RG1995 on 01/15/11 at 7:33 pm
I'm from Philly, and let me tell you. Back in the day, when Boyz II Men hit the scene, Philly went WILD! My aunt went to school with Boyz II Men. New Jack Swing, to me, was a transitioning music moving from the 80s to the 90s and what a beautiful transition it was. I'm so glad that you mentioned that New Jack Swing lasted for 8 years instead of 6 years because a lot of sources said that New Jack Swing ran from 1987 to 1993. I disagree because in early 1995, it was still some New Jack Swing songs left. I believe that New Jack Swing died out in mid 1995. The New Jack Swing was the soundtrack of my preteen and teenaged life. When I was in junior high in the late 80s, New Jack Swing started to blow up big time, and it dominated urban radio. Even veteran artists like Earth, Wind, and Fire, Quincy Jones, Teena Marie (RIP), Stephanie Mills, James Ingrams, Al Green, etc dabbed into the New Jack Swing. I remember being 12 in the 7th grade in 1989, and my father took me and my brother to a New Jack Swing concert in September of 1989. It was ALL THAT! It had The Boys (Dial My Heart), Heavy D and The Boyz, MC Hammer, Kool Moe Dee, Three Times Dope, and Guy. I remember seeing Kid from Kid and Play sitting at the balcony, and I waved at him, and he waved back at me. From 1988 when I started junior high at 11 years old to 1995 when I graduated out of high school, New Jack Swing represented my preteen and teenaged life.
Did Philadelphia go wild for them? I'm from Philly, but I was born in 1995 when apparently New Jack Swing died.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: nicole1977 on 01/15/11 at 9:22 pm
Did Philadelphia go wild for them? I'm from Philly, but I was born in 1995 when apparently New Jack Swing died.
I was 18 when you were born, and in the early 90s, Boyz II Men was the hot ticket that represented Philly to the fullest. They went wild for them. They sure did.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: Brian06 on 01/15/11 at 10:13 pm
I remember Boyz II Men from when I was a kid actually, I really like "Water Runs Dry" to this day.
Subject: Re: Which genres of music most defined the 90's the most?
Written By: Ryan112390 on 01/16/11 at 12:53 pm
Well let's see....
My dad (born in the mid '50s) was listening to Guns N' Roses in the early '90s and the Cranberries by 1995-1996.
My sisters (born in the early '70s and 1980 respectively): One listened to Heavy Metal and Rock, never liked Grunge with the exception of Alice in Chains and Hole and also liked stuff like Beck; One loved Hip Hop like Rob Base; and the youngest loved stuff like Cypress Hill and went to Raves.
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