Everyone always compares this. What strikes me is how similar both decades are, yet how tired out many of the 2000s music trends are. They're really just 90s leftovers.

Personally I thought the 90s was a much better decade musically. There was more diversity and overall much more exciting things going on. In the 90s if you wanted a genre of music, you could pick the flavor...with sprinkles.  ;) Hip Hop spanned from Snoop Dogg, to De La Soul, to Nas, to the Fugees, Biggie, Tupac etc. Not to mention all the smaller artists who were influenced by these big names. West Coast hip hop ruled with NWA and later, Dr. Dre.

Many classic rock acts such as Aerosmith (still sort of successful in the 2000s) and Eric Clapton were still having success as elder statesmen of rock. Grunge revitalized the genre after 80s metal waned. Alternative culture boomed, we can thank (or perhaps not) the 90s alternative scene for giving us emo. There were a million different mix and match genres within the spectrum of alternative music.

Pop music as a whole was far more original. Mainstream acts such as TLC would draw influences from Prince-esque soul to contemporary r&b. There was more an emphasis on choreography, which still is a major influence today, but doesn't feel as original anymore. The whole teen pop, N'SYNC, Spice Girls type schtick was endearing as it was cheesy in a way.

In comparison all the variety of the 90s has sort of extended itself into the 2000s, yet....pittered out, so to speak. There's still some good music but it all feels tired and overdue for a makeover, which is what the 90s was to the 80s. Anyway discuss, feel free to agree or dissagree.

I agree with pretty much all of that. I know it's not exactly a new topic around here, lol, but even though the '00s aren't completely a '90s clone, the crappier aftermaths of the '90s do seem to be "looming over the '00s". For instance, I'm sure The Fray could've been a 1997 band, maybe even 1995.

There are some exclusive things to this decade, such as Emo and crunk.

The '90s also felt more "varied". There was crap then, too, but it was easier to avoid. Adult contemporary and classic rock seemed alot more common. Like you said, artists like Eric Clapton, Tom Petty, Aerosmith, Santana, Rod Stewart and Cher were all still charting with pop songs in the '90s. Even if they're still quite popular for name recognition and live acts, they're like total veterans now who wouldn't really be marketable with new material.

Grunge was a big deal then, now it's emo.

Grunge was more of a cultural movement. Emo is just a fad...

The 90's were extremely diverse, it helped jump start music genres such as Grunge, Adult Contemporary, Rap and Alternative Rock. Also Dance Music which kind of took a break after the Disco era, resurfaced around 1989/1990 and was huge throughout the 90's.

Here's an interesting tidbit though.  After looking over the entire Billboard Charts for the 90's over the last couple years (and living through the decade listening to the music), the most popular and successful music genre throughout the 90's was easily R&B.  You'll notice that the majority of the #1 Hits throughout the 90's were R&B songs.

Actually, I just went through every #1 Hit of the 90's and counted how many R&B Songs reached #1, and I counted 73 total songs. Wow.

Um, I feel like 1992-1998 was way better musically than the 00's are. I mean the 00's really only had like really like musical good period and that was 2004-mid 2005. I thought 2004 was a good year for music but 2006 was like the 1990 of music in that the 2006 music scene lacked indentity. . Anything after June 2005 is like different from the 90's exceot for "The Fray" as poster "Marty McFly" pointed out.. To me 1999-mid 2005 could be like all one musical period. I mean Snap-rap became became pretty big in late 2005/early 2006 with acts like DL4 and DemFranchise Boys that helped get snap-rap gets its popularity that it has today and snap rap had nothing to do with the 90's.

I think the main difference betwen the 90's music scene and the 00's music is in the 00's you really don;t have to put a great song out there. In the 00's promotion is so key I mean just look at an artist like Rihanna I mean her song "Umbrella" is not a good song to me but I guess people like her. To me Rihanna's music goes nowhere for me except for that for that song where it goes "you Wanto Be my Homie" or something like that. that  Look at an Ashelee Simpson too she was promoted really good so thats why she was popular for a couple years before the whole SNL thing probably thereotically killed her career. 

Oh yeah how could I forget rap was so dominant this decade(mostly 2003-early 2006 especially) when 50 Cent came out in 2003 where as in the 90's rap was just a genre even though rap was pretty popular in 1998 with Puff Daddy, Busta Ryhmes and DMX but that was like the only year that it was so dominant in the 90's. In the 2000's(2003-early 2006) rap was very dominant.

Um, I feel like 1992-1998 was way better musically than the 00's are. I mean the 00's really only had like really like musical good period and that was 2004-mid 2005. I thought 2004 was a good year for music but 2006 was like the 1990 of music in that the 2006 music scene lacked indentity. .


Wow, are you serious? I thought 2004 was easily the worst year of the 00's decade for music.  I thought popular music was great from 2001 to 2003 and then again in 2005.  I thought 2000 was pretty good as well, it just had alot of Pop (N'Sync, Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera)

I remember 2004 being dreadful.  It's like the only year of this decade that was dominated completely by watered down R&B/Hip-Hop.  Now I love Hip-Hop and R&B, but it was at it's worst in 2004 and it dominated the year. 

If I were to rank the years of the 2000's musically, it would go like this...

1) 2001
2) 2003
3) 2005
4) 2002
5) 2000
6) 2006
7) 2004

Wow, are you serious? I thought 2004 was easily the worst year of the 00's decade for music.  I thought popular music was great from 2001 to 2003 and then again in 2005.  I thought 2000 was pretty good as well, it just had alot of Pop (N'Sync, Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera)

I remember 2004 being dreadful.  It's like the only year of this decade that was dominated completely by watered down R&B/Hip-Hop.  Now I love Hip-Hop and R&B, but it was at it's worst in 2004 and it dominated the year. 

If I were to rank the years of the 2000's musically, it would go like this...

1) 2001
2) 2003
3) 2005
4) 2002
5) 2000
6) 2006
7) 2004


That reminds me...does anyone remember that song called F*ck It by Eamon? God that song was awful.  ;D

Wow, are you serious? I thought 2004 was easily the worst year of the 00's decade for music.  I thought popular music was great from 2001 to 2003 and then again in 2005.  I thought 2000 was pretty good as well, it just had alot of Pop (N'Sync, Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera)

I remember 2004 being dreadful.  It's like the only year of this decade that was dominated completely by watered down R&B/Hip-Hop.  Now I love Hip-Hop and R&B, but it was at it's worst in 2004 and it dominated the year. 

If I were to rank the years of the 2000's musically, it would go like this...

1) 2001
2) 2003
3) 2005
4) 2002
5) 2000
6) 2006
7) 2004
I agree 2001-2003 was good but 2000 with the boy bands and Britney Spears all over the place I really didn;t care for the music scene at all. As far as hip-hop being dreadful hasn;t it been dreadful for like the last 2 years with the snap rap stuff? To me 2004 Hip-hop is better than the hip-hop of the last 2 years. I mean in 2004 there were good meanigful rap songs like the following songs: "Why?" by Jadakiss and Anthony Hamilton, "Locked Up" by Akon and Styles P. from the "Lox" and "Jesus Walks" by Kanye West.

If I had to pick one point where music went downhill, it was after the Bush/Kerry election period. It seemed like it was starting to shift around then, especially with American Idiot and some of the '80sesque indie rock, such as The Killers. Just about when 2004 was turning into 2005, but by the middle of '05 it kinda reverted back to a watered-down, lousier version of 2001-'03 without the originality.

There's still some good songs around, but I kinda agree with "TV" that the entire '00s does sometimes feel like they took the generic elements of the '90s (specifically 1991-1996) along with crunk and emo, and made a decade out of it.

If I had to pick one point where music went downhill, it was after the Bush/Kerry election period. It seemed like it was starting to shift around then, especially with American Idiot and some of the '80sesque indie rock, such as The Killers. Just about when 2004 was turning into 2005, but by the middle of '05 it kinda reverted back to a watered-down, lousier version of 2001-'03 without the originality.

There's still some good songs around, but I kinda agree with "TV" that the entire '00s does sometimes feel like they took the generic elements of the '90s (specifically 1991-1996) along with crunk and emo, and made a decade out of it.
I never said that the the 00's took elements from the 1991-1996 period and made decade out of it, what I said was 1999-mid 2005 can be like one whole musical period.  I do agree with you "The Fray" could have been around in 1997 and they wouldn;t have been out of place back then
but I don;t know about 1995 though.

I do agree though music started to go downhill in mid 2005 but I don't know if I could say myself if music reverted back to a watered down 2001-2003 version.

I think 2007 even though it started off ok won;t turn out to be a good of year music unless the second half of this year is really good but I doubt it.

2007 will be a pretty bad year for music, as will probably most of 2008. It won't get better until we have new genres, and for the foreseeable future I just see the current tired out trends that we have now (crunk, emo) fading more and more into oblivion.

The good news is that once these remnants of the peak 2000s (2003-2006) decline in popularity completely, whatever arises to replace it will most certainly be as a responsive backlash.

2007 will be a pretty bad year for music, as will probably most of 2008. It won't get better until we have new genres, and for the foreseeable future I just see the current tired out trends that we have now (crunk, emo) fading more and more into oblivion.

The good news is that once these remnants of the peak 2000s (2003-2006) decline in popularity completely, whatever arises to replace it will most certainly be as a responsive backlash.
Hmmm, I thought the core 00's were like 2003-early 2006 or maybe mid 2005 or 2005 as a whole because I think by mid 2006 the 2003 to at least mid 2005 or 2005 period as whole fell out of favor. I mean early 2006 compared to late 2006 is different to me in a musical trend sense.

Hmmm, I thought the core 00's were like 2003-early 2006 or maybe mid 2005 or 2005 as a whole because I think by mid 2006 the 2003 to at least mid 2005 or 2005 period as whole fell out of favor. I mean early 2006 compared to late 2006 is different to me in a musical trend sense.


yeah early 2006 was really a 2005 carry over. I agree with that.

Make that late 2002-2005 for peak 2000s.

i have to disagree that 90's music is better than 2000's music. I'm a 90's kid but i think there are better artists coming out in the 2000's than in the 90's. For Example, The Fray, Boys like Girls, Hellogoodbye, Good Charlotte, All American Rejects, and Fall Out Boy are all amazing bands that play music that isn't crap.

i have to disagree that 90's music is better than 2000's music. I'm a 90's kid but i think there are better artists coming out in the 2000's than in the 90's. For Example, The Fray, Boys like Girls, Hellogoodbye, Good Charlotte, All American Rejects, and Fall Out Boy are all amazing bands that play music that isn't crap.


:o

Hahahah, thats a good one! You almost had me there.

Ehemm...so you were joking right?

acually no i wasn't most of the 90's music was crap anyways

Some of the bands you listed started in the 1990s.

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acually no i wasn't most of the 90's music was crap anyways


most 2000s music is crap

most 2000s music is crap, not to mention that most 2000s music wouldn't exist had it not been for the 90s.

acually no i wasn't most of the 90's music was crap anyways


You're still joking right?  :o

First time I ever heard someone call Good Charlotte and Fall Out Boy amazing.  :o :o

First time I ever heard someone call Good Charlotte and Fall Out Boy amazing.  :o :o


Yeah, with actually being serious about it, too. ;D

I think by genre '90s and '00s music is similar, although '90s music had more variety and felt more original and mature. That's what made even the lousier music more tolerable, because that's not all there was. There aren't very many "classic" pop songs anymore. Even 1999, while having crap like Limp Bizkit, also had things like "All Star" and "Smooth". Once crunk and emo hit c. 2003, that seemed to stop.

What the hell is the deal with people who were actually born during the 90's HATING the 90's?  Where does this come from?!? It annoys the hell out of me.

For this kid to say that 90's music sucks and 00's music is better really gets under my skin.  My bet is that this kid didn't even listen to music in the 90's because he wasn't old enough.

I guarantee you if you had listened to music during the majority of the 90's, you'd appreciate it alot more.  Unfortunately for you (gangterrr), you spent your adolescence in the 00's

Really, I would think anyone alive in 2007 would miss the living hell out of the 90s.

The 1990s and the 2000s were like night and day, the 90s brought prosperity and the 2000s brought disaster. This includes both are political situation as well as that of our entertainment. In the 2000s people may be listening to Akon but in the 90s they were listening to Tupac. The Pussycat dolls may be popular now, but in the 90s it was TLC, a pop act with...god whats that word..TALENT.

Even sports, in the 90s we were having a blast with MJ and the Bulls winning some 6 titles. Now what do we have...the Spurs?

2000s music is a cheat to customers, it has no heart, its just nonsense, and it sucks. When the 2010s come along, you'll bet things will be a lot different.

Yeah, I can't be too objective about this topic.  ;D

^ I agree. The '90s, even the worst stuff, seemed more innocent as a whole than the '00s does. It's like if the '90s were a donut, the '00s took off the frosting and put some new sprinkles over the crappier bottom half and made a decade out of it. ;)


P.S. Let's not get into the whole "someone this old can't like this because they don't remember it" argument again, though. ;D To use the same scenario, that's like using the '80s comparison on me, and I love both decades.

Really, I would think anyone alive in 2007 would miss the living hell out of the 90s.

The 1990s and the 2000s were like night and day, the 90s brought prosperity and the 2000s brought disaster. This includes both are political situation as well as that of our entertainment. In the 2000s people may be listening to Akon but in the 90s they were listening to Tupac. The Pussycat dolls may be popular now, but in the 90s it was TLC, a pop act with...god whats that word..TALENT.

Even sports, in the 90s we were having a blast with MJ and the Bulls winning some 6 titles. Now what do we have...the Spurs?

2000s music is a cheat to customers, it has no heart, its just nonsense, and it sucks. When the 2010s come along, you'll bet things will be a lot different.
Yeah, I can't be too objective about this topic.  ;D
Yup I agree the backlash that 00's music will face in the 2010's will be like the backlash that the music of the 80's faced in the 90's and the music(mostly disco) of the 70's faced in the 80's.

Yeah, with actually being serious about it, too. ;D

I think by genre '90s and '00s music is similar, although '90s music had more variety and felt more original and mature. That's what made even the lousier music more tolerable, because that's not all there was. There aren't very many "classic" pop songs anymore. Even 1999, while having crap like Limp Bizkit, also had things like "All Star" and "Smooth". Once crunk and emo hit c. 2003, that seemed to stop.
In don;t know maybe up to mid 2005 the 00's and 90's that was until snap rap, T-Pain, and Akon came out. Also, we didn;t have crunk, emo, or snap-rap in the 90's.

In don;t know maybe up to mid 2005 the 00's and 90's that was until snap rap, T-Pain, and Akon came out. Also, we didn;t have crunk, emo, or snap-rap in the 90's.


Yeah, those didn't exist until at least 2003 and weren't popular until probably '05. In some ways, they are evolutions of '90s trends, just in a less original sense. The good stuff about '90s music doesn't seem to exist anymore. There's very little AC, true R&B ballads or rock bands which don't include Nickelback, lol.

There's some good music, but usually just individual songs, and some of it isn't that popular in comparison.