You know how it's usually a rule that a just-departed time is "cheesy"? Right now, the boy band/Y2K era fits the bill (even if it doesn't scream it as much as certain other times have).

This relatively fast falling out of style never quite seemed to happen to the late 1991-1996 peak Nineties. This could be a simple solution for the reason why they never had any true hate among the masses, aside from little individual things like backwards ballcaps or artists like Vanilla Ice. During the grunge era, it was the overproduced mainstream parts of the late '80s that people laughed at the most, such as hair metal. However, I think in the late '90s, the "recently cheesy" time still beloned to the late '80s! Just in a revised, much older way with the rise of the Internet and such. ;)

Basically we skipped over the early-mid '90s. Like, I remember "Smells Like Teen Spirit", Beavis and Butthead, Seinfeld, Quentin Tarantino movies, Wayne's World and many other things like that were still pretty much cool among everyone at my school. Even if people acknowledged them as being "a little older", and they were established, as opposed to hot new things. I also saw quite a few people still wearing the more obvious fashion, like backwards baseball hats and flannel.

I think once you got to the current time we're in (which had its roots in 2001 and really took off in 2003/'04), the grunge era was simply too old for people to remember to have it directly in their line of fire. I think the '90s attained even more of a "legendary" status, since key figures like Kurt Cobain as well as Tupac and Biggie Smalls died. So even while it may have gone away, its influence never really did.

Good question Marty. The strange thing is, apart from a few things, the 'peak '90s'(I'd say 1991-1996 as well) weren't even considered cheesy back in the boy band/Y2K era. I've heard before about a slight backlash against grunge around 1997 or 1998, but even if there was one, it was nothing compared to the backlash against hair metal in the early '90s.

Also, alot of the artists that are very popular today started out in the early/mid '90s, and were actually popular then. It's not like how a few grunge artists came out with albums in the '80s but didn't hit it big until years later. Green Day hit it big in 1994, the Foo Fighters in 1995. Even Audioslave was a combination of two of the most popular groups of the '90s(RATM and Soundgarden).

Back when I started high school, in the early '00s I started seeing alot of people wear Nirvana t-shirts again. By comparison how many high schoolers did you see wearing Poison t-shirts back in say 1997 ;D

The strange thing is, apart from a few things, the 'peak '90s'(I'd say 1991-1996 as well) weren't even considered cheesy back in the boy band/Y2K era.

Hehe, it seems people don't realize that something is cheesy until it's out-of-style.  ;D

^ Yeah I agree. I guess because it stands out more when there's no longer alot of people doing it, lol. Can you imagine how silly that one random guy will appear in 2015 when he tells his friends he's into The O.C. or "You're Beautiful"? ;D 

I've heard before about a slight backlash against grunge around 1997 or 1998, but even if there was one, it was nothing compared to the backlash against hair metal in the early '90s.

Yeah, I heard that a little bit in the media at the time. I think it was more about the sudden reproliferation of "fluffier" teenybopper music on the radio, since the Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys contrasted angst and alternative rock. So it wasn't a direct backlash since it was different music.

True. Even though cheesier '80s rock always had its fans too, many more seem to have been "in the closet" so to speak. Whereas quite a bit of people openly have liked Nirvana and Soundgarden after their popularity faded.

I agree about alot of the same bands too. While I don't think the '00s are a '90s clone, I can see why people on the surface would say so, because so much of what we have did originate and may just be in updated form now (i.e. bands like Red Hot Chili Peppers and Green Day, earliest Internet use, rounded car designs, talk shows and the very beginnings of reality TV).

^ Yeah I agree. I guess because it stands out more when there's no longer alot of people doing it, lol. Can you imagine how silly that one random guy will appear in 2015 when he tells his friends he's into The O.C. or "You're Beautiful"? ;D 

Yeah, I heard that a little bit in the media at the time. I think it was more about the sudden reproliferation of "fluffier" teenybopper music on the radio, since the Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys contrasted angst and alternative rock. So it wasn't a direct backlash since it was different music.

True. Even though cheesier '80s rock always had its fans too, many more seem to have been "in the closet" so to speak. Whereas quite a bit of people openly have liked Nirvana and Soundgarden after their popularity faded.

I agree about alot of the same bands too. While I don't think the '00s are a '90s clone, I can see why people on the surface would say so, because so much of what we have did originate and may just be in updated form now (i.e. bands like Red Hot Chili Peppers and Green Day, earliest Internet use, rounded car designs, talk shows and the very beginnings of reality TV).
Talk shows in the 00's aren't anywhere near as popular as they were in the 90's. I mean there was a whole a whole boatload of talk shows ithan(in the 90's)compared tro now. I mean the 90's there was Oprah of course, Ricki Lake, Montell, Jenny Jones, Richard Bey, Rolonda, Geraldo, Jerry Springer, Maury Povich, Sally Jesse Rapheal and Tempest(yes Tempest Bledsoe for the Cosby Show had her own talk show for awhile.) Yeah the talk show genre did carry over sort of to to 2003 or 2004 maybe when you had Ananda Lewis(who used to be on MTV), Queen Latifah and "Carney"(Carney Wilson from the early 90's girl group Wilson Philips) all had their own talk shows. I mean no there aren't as many talk shows I now as there as there was in the 90's I mean you still have Oprah, Dr,. Phil, Montell, Muary, and Jerry Springer(even though his popularity is way down from where it was in the late 90's. Tyra Banks has her own show too now.

As for Green Day they were nearly invisible from 2001-at least Speptember 2004 after 2000's "Warning" was a big dissapointment. I just think "Warning" came out at the wrong time maybe in 2002 maybe "Warinng" could have actually sold 2 million records. Green day just did not fit into the whole music scene very well at the time when "Warning" came out. I mean songs like "Minority" and the title track as well "warning" were usual classic Green Day in my opinion and those songs sounded good but it was just wrong timing.

ad for Reality TV originating in the 90's yeah "The Real World" did start the whole reality trend but reality TV's boom was 2000-2002(i.e. early 2000's and not the 90's) but I think the whole Reality TV Boom slowed down around 2004 maybe?

^ Yeah I agree. I guess because it stands out more when there's no longer alot of people doing it, lol. Can you imagine how silly that one random guy will appear in 2015 when he tells his friends he's into The O.C. or "You're Beautiful"? ;D 

Yeah, I heard that a little bit in the media at the time. I think it was more about the sudden reproliferation of "fluffier" teenybopper music on the radio, since the Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys contrasted angst and alternative rock. So it wasn't a direct backlash since it was different music.

I think Puff Daddys pop-rap in 1997-mid 1998 too was a backlash aganist the 1992-1996 culture too as well as the Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys. I think 1999 was totally different from 1997-1998 still though. At least 1997-1998 everything wasnlt marketed to such a young audience like it was 1999-2000. 1999-2000 was carefree like the 80's I think because of the ecomony but without the good music of the 80's. 1999-2000 was a totally different monster pop culture than 1992-1996 and 1997/1998. September 11th pretty much put the whole teen-pop thing to bed though.

You know how it's usually a rule that a just-departed time is "cheesy"? Right now, the boy band/Y2K era fits the bill (even if it doesn't scream it as much as certain other times have).

This relatively fast falling out of style never quite seemed to happen to the late 1991-1996 peak Nineties. This could be a simple solution for the reason why they never had any true hate among the masses, aside from little individual things like backwards ballcaps or artists like Vanilla Ice. During the grunge era, it was the overproduced mainstream parts of the late '80s that people laughed at the most, such as hair metal. However, I think in the late '90s, the "recently cheesy" time still beloned to the late '80s! Just in a revised, much older way with the rise of the Internet and such. ;)

Basically we skipped over the early-mid '90s. Like, I remember "Smells Like Teen Spirit", Beavis and Butthead, Seinfeld, Quentin Tarantino movies, Wayne's World and many other things like that were still pretty much cool among everyone at my school. Even if people acknowledged them as being "a little older", and they were established, as opposed to hot new things. I also saw quite a few people still wearing the more obvious fashion, like backwards baseball hats and flannel.

I think once you got to the current time we're in (which had its roots in 2001 and really took off in 2003/'04), the grunge era was simply too old for people to remember to have it directly in their line of fire. I think the '90s attained even more of a "legendary" status, since key figures like Kurt Cobain as well as Tupac and Biggie Smalls died. So even while it may have gone away, its influence never really did.
Bottom Line:Basically the 90's is like the 60's in that both decades didn;t recieve a pop culture backlash in decades that went after them(70's and 00's.) To the contrary, The 70's wrere hated in the 80's defintely especially disco and the 80's were definately hated in the 90's. I say count on a big time 00's backlash in the 2010's with social concious rap music in making glam rap look like hair metal did in the mid 90's(out of style) and heavy metal or metal(no not that late 90's/ early 00's nu-meta I mean real metall)returning to the forefront in the 2010's making EMO music look dumb. I'm not even a big Heavy Metal or Metal fan but I think the genre could have a good run in the early to mid 2010's.

^ Yeah, you're right in saying the '90s and '60s are very parallel. The grunge era arguably mirrored the Woodstock era (you could say they both were "revolutions" and had cutting-edge music and pop culture for their time). Neither had a backlash either.

Talk shows in the 00's aren't anywhere near as popular as they were in the 90's. I mean there was a whole a whole boatload of talk shows ithan(in the 90's)compared tro now. I mean the 90's there was Oprah of course, Ricki Lake, Montell, Jenny Jones, Richard Bey, Rolonda, Geraldo, Jerry Springer, Maury Povich, Sally Jesse Rapheal and Tempest(yes Tempest Bledsoe for the Cosby Show had her own talk show for awhile.) Yeah the talk show genre did carry over sort of to to 2003 or 2004 maybe when you had Ananda Lewis(who used to be on MTV), Queen Latifah and "Carney"(Carney Wilson from the early 90's girl group Wilson Philips) all had their own talk shows. I mean no there aren't as many talk shows I now as there as there was in the 90's I mean you still have Oprah, Dr,. Phil, Montell, Muary, and Jerry Springer(even though his popularity is way down from where it was in the late 90's. Tyra Banks has her own show too now.

As for Green Day they were nearly invisible from 2001-at least Speptember 2004 after 2000's "Warning" was a big dissapointment. I just think "Warning" came out at the wrong time maybe in 2002 maybe "Warinng" could have actually sold 2 million records. Green day just did not fit into the whole music scene very well at the time when "Warning" came out. I mean songs like "Minority" and the title track as well "warning" were usual classic Green Day in my opinion and those songs sounded good but it was just wrong timing.

ad for Reality TV originating in the 90's yeah "The Real World" did start the whole reality trend but reality TV's boom was 2000-2002(i.e. early 2000's and not the 90's) but I think the whole Reality TV Boom slowed down around 2004 maybe?

True, talk shows are more just the veterans with residual popularity now. The true early '90s shows are probably long gone, it's more the c. 1998 stuff that's hanging on now (even Maury Povich and Jerry were serious and pretty different when they started out).

Warning was my personal favorite Green Day album (maybe tied with Dookie at least), and I was kinda disappointed it didn't do so well. A few songs like "Castaway" actually reminded me of Blink 182, yet it also sounds like a happier version of '00s alt rock or pop/punk, so yeah it was probably just lousy timing on both sides. It probably could've fit in with 1998 or 2003 better.