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Subject: The Late '90s
Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 01/03/07 at 4:06 am
Now that its 2007, and the late '90s are officially 10 years ago, I was thinking that they really don't seem that old to me.
Since most of the 1997 or later stuff is still around today, its kind of hard to imagine the late '90s as ever being 'old school', even if I do believe that the late '90s were better overall than right now. I guess I was wondering if they actually seem yet old to any of you guys.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Marty McFly on 01/03/07 at 4:18 am
Now that its 2007, and the late '90s are officially 10 years ago, I was thinking that they really don't seem that old to me.
Since most of the 1997 or later stuff is still around today, its kind of hard to imagine the late '90s as ever being 'old school', even if I do believe that the late '90s were better overall than right now. I guess I was wondering if they actually seem yet old to any of you guys.
I was thinking the same thing. Back in 1997, 1989 seemed like awhile ago because of the new tech and pop culture shifts (combined with being 15 thinking back to age 7-8, not to mention alot of personal things in my life changing). The late '90s really are like "just a little while ago", despite some of it is pretty dated and cheesy, like Pokemon, Jerry Springer shows, some boy band songs and Ricky Martin.
At the time, I was POSITIVE that stuff would date very quickly and nothing would be heard of it by 2002/'03, yet alot of the boy band/teen pop stars have made it big with solo careers. That makes it feel alot more recent that it actually is.
And yeah, I've softened on it quite a bit. 8 to 10 years ago itself, I never would've thought I'd miss it as I do now, even the cheesy stuff I didn't care for at the time. I guess 'cause there was still a tinge of old-school. Despite the 'Net being pretty much household, it wasn't yet essential and didn't rule every area of things as it seems to now.
P.S. Back then, if you'd told me how there'd be a message board where many of us would be saying these things about missing the late '90s by 2007, I would have never believed it.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 01/03/07 at 7:59 am
I was thinking the same thing. Back in 1997, 1989 seemed like awhile ago because of the new tech and pop culture shifts (combined with being 15 thinking back to age 7-8, not to mention alot of personal things in my life changing). The late '90s really are like "just a little while ago", despite some of it is pretty dated and cheesy, like Pokemon, Jerry Springer shows, some boy band songs and Ricky Martin.
At the time, I was POSITIVE that stuff would date very quickly and nothing would be heard of it by 2002/'03, yet alot of the boy band/teen pop stars have made it big with solo careers. That makes it feel alot more recent that it actually is.
And yeah, I've softened on it quite a bit. 8 to 10 years ago itself, I never would've thought I'd miss it as I do now, even the cheesy stuff I didn't care for at the time. I guess 'cause there was still a tinge of old-school. Despite the 'Net being pretty much household, it wasn't yet essential and didn't rule every area of things as it seems to now.
P.S. Back then, if you'd told me how there'd be a message board where many of us would be saying these things about missing the late '90s by 2007, I would have never believed it.
Yeah, back in like 2000 or 2001, when I first started being a bit nostalgic for the early '90s, I used to think that 1998 could never feel as old to me as 1993 did, but over the years nostalgia for the late '90s slowly started to creep up one me(to be fair 1998 was actually more years ago now than 1993 was back then :o)
Today the late '90s don't feel quite as old to me as the early '90s did then, but that could be because I was fairly old in the late '90s(in middle school), and I was pretty little in the early '90s, so I don't remember them quite as well.
The late '90s stuff that you mentioned is pretty outdated. Pokemon is still around but not nearly as popular as it was c.1999, and basically all the boy bands have broke up. Despite that there's still alot of stuff from then thats still pretty relevent today. I'd say it'll be sometime early in the next decade before the late '90s truly become old school.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Roadgeek on 01/03/07 at 3:59 pm
I'm with you there. I'm hardly nostalgic for the late '90s. I'm only nostalgic for things up to 1997. For one thing in 1998/1999, Carolina Circle Mall was barely open unlike when it was thriving earlier in the decade. And, the pop culture doesn't seem as special as the early and mid '90s.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: ultraviolet52 on 01/03/07 at 7:33 pm
I believe that once things hit the 15 year mark, then it just feels old enough where you remember it well and have some fond memories, but you can feel it leaving your grasp. I think back, wow, I graduated pre-school 20 years ago! I actually have coherent thoughts from 20 years ago. It's a weird feeling because life goes SO fast after hitting your 20's that before you know it, you're expecting your 10 year HS reunion!
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 01/04/07 at 12:33 am
I believe that once things hit the 15 year mark, then it just feels old enough where you remember it well and have some fond memories, but you can feel it leaving your grasp. I think back, wow, I graduated pre-school 20 years ago! I actually have coherent thoughts from 20 years ago. It's a weird feeling because life goes SO fast after hitting your 20's that before you know it, you're expecting your 10 year HS reunion!
Yeah, to me years being to feel old when there in the 12-15 year old range. Like now the mid '90s have started to seem pretty distant to me, but about 4 or 5 years ago they didn't seem that far away. And then when you get into the 15+ year range stuff seems really old. Like I can recall attending pre-school somewhat too(that was 16 years ago now), and that seems ancient, but that could also be because I was only 4 at the time.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Marty McFly on 01/04/07 at 12:45 am
^By the time I was 12 (in 1993-'94), being 4 or 5 seemed ancient to me, but 1986 didn't, if that makes sense?
Yeah, the mid '90s are hanging on. For being as old as they are, they feel pretty recent (cars and TV/stereo tech from then still looks kinda new, and pictures of an outside street could pass for now), but are starting to slip away as well.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 01/04/07 at 12:52 am
^By the time I was 12 (in 1993-'94), being 4 or 5 seemed ancient to me, but 1986 didn't, if that makes sense?
Yeah, the mid '90s are hanging on. For being as old as they are, they feel pretty recent (cars and TV/stereo tech from then still looks kinda new, and pictures of an outside street could pass for now), but are starting to slip away as well.
Actually that does make sense. When I was 12 back in 1999, I would think back to when I was in Kindergarten or Pre-School in the early '90s, and my memories from those times always seemed ancient, but whenever I would think about 1992 itself, the actual year never seemed that old.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Marty McFly on 01/04/07 at 1:01 am
Actually that does make sense. When I was 12 back in 1999, I would think back to when I was in Kindergarten or Pre-School in the early '90s, and my memories from those times always seemed ancient, but whenever I would think about 1992 itself, the actual year never seemed that old.
I agree. I've always wondered why this is. Perhaps it's that we were still discovering or getting into some things from that time secondhand? Like I saw the movie Kindergarden Cop for the first time around 7th grade, and I was buying cassettes of '80s music compliations (with some "new to me" songs mixed with ones I liked already) in the early-mid '90s.
So in a way, those things are "tied with" the later years because it reminds me of when I first got into them.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 01/04/07 at 2:23 am
I agree. I've always wondered why this is. Perhaps it's that we were still discovering or getting into some things from that time secondhand? Like I saw the movie Kindergarden Cop for the first time around 7th grade, and I was buying cassettes of '80s music compliations (with some "new to me" songs mixed with ones I liked already) in the early-mid '90s.
So in a way, those things are "tied with" the later years because it reminds me of when I first got into them.
Yeah, when I first started listening to music back in 1998/'99, I was a pretty big fan of classic rock from the '70s and '80s, and back then whenever I would hear a grunge rock song, even if it was from the early '90s, it always seemed more like newer stuff(which I guess it was compared to what I was listening too).
Also, I watched alot of t.v. back when I was little, and most of the shows that I watched then still came on even into the late '90s, so i suppose that at the time, it was just hard for me to consider the early '90s too be old.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: 90skid555 on 01/04/07 at 1:34 pm
In my mind 1997 seems like a long while back but its really not
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: thereshegoes on 01/04/07 at 2:03 pm
In my mind 1997 seems like a long while back but its really not
Really? To me it seems it was only yesterday,which means... i'm old :\'(
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: batfan2005 on 01/04/07 at 8:07 pm
Lately I've been nostalgic about the late 90's. A lot of good music came out of the 1997-1999 era. One thing that is different from then and now, is that back then instead of having a device that holds hundreds of songs that could fit in my pocket, I used to carry a backpack with a big book of CD's and my portable CD player.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: tv on 01/05/07 at 3:02 am
I don;t know the late 90's seem old to me now. I mean the Backstreet Boys and N'Sync are gone even though Justin Timberlake was popular in the latter portion of 2006. Britney Spears? Passe but still tabloid fonder. Spice Girls, Robyn, and Savage Garden: They're all gone. Puff Daddy" he made a comeback this year. Busta Rhymes also had a hit in 2006. Mase: had 1 hit in the 00's and that was it. Usher hit it big in 97-98 and he's now more popular than he was than. Third Eye Blind: They;re gone. Matchbox Twenty: Not revelant anymore. Brandy and Monica: Not relevant anymore. DMX-he's not popular anymore.
I have a love/hate relationship with 1999 because I don;t like Britney Spears music. I however do get noglastic for 1999 when I hear a tune like "Hey Leonardo(She Likes For Me) by Blessid Union of Souls, Give It To You by Jordan Knight or "The Hardest Thing" by 98 Degrees. I don;t think Britney Spears's music from 1999-2000 has aged well at all or a tune like Jessica Simpson's "I Wanna Love You Forever" has aged well either.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: batfan2005 on 01/05/07 at 7:32 pm
I miss all the R&B artists and groups from that time like Next, Joe, Jon B., Rome, KC and Jojo, Brian McKnight, and many others. Those were the jams! Another thing I miss from that time is Playstation 1.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: tv on 01/06/07 at 1:41 am
I miss all the R&B artists and groups from that time like Next, Joe, Jon B., Rome, KC and Jojo, Brian McKnight, and many others. Those were the jams! Another thing I miss from that time is Playstation 1.
Yes! somebody remembers all those R&B artists from 1997-1998! What about Dru Hill, Montell Jordan, Uncle Sam, and Xscape? Can;t forget about R. Kelly either. Next was cool. "Too Close" was like one of the top songs of the year in 1998. "Butta Love" was cool too. "I Still Love You" was a hit for them that year too.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: tv on 01/06/07 at 1:45 am
I don;t know the late 90's seem old to me now. I mean the Backstreet Boys and N'Sync are gone even though Justin Timberlake was popular in the latter portion of 2006. Britney Spears? Passe but still tabloid fonder. Spice Girls, Robyn, and Savage Garden: They're all gone. Puff Daddy" he made a comeback this year. Busta Rhymes also had a hit in 2006. Mase: had 1 hit in the 00's and that was it. Usher hit it big in 97-98 and he's now more popular than he was than. Third Eye Blind: They;re gone. Matchbox Twenty: Not revelant anymore. Brandy and Monica: Not relevant anymore. DMX-he's not popular anymore.
I take that back Busta Ryhmes had a hit around 2002 maybe with "Break Ya Neck".
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Captain_Weirdo on 01/09/07 at 5:41 am
I actually feel nostalgia for the late 90's.I'm only 16
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Uncanny on 01/18/07 at 4:53 pm
It's 2007, late 90s are old too.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Roadgeek on 01/18/07 at 6:06 pm
It's 2007, late 90s are old too.
Too some, yes, but I'll probably always be nostalgic for the early and mid '90s.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Brian06 on 01/18/07 at 6:16 pm
I don;t know the late 90's seem old to me now. I mean the Backstreet Boys and N'Sync are gone even though Justin Timberlake was popular in the latter portion of 2006. Britney Spears? Passe but still tabloid fonder. Spice Girls, Robyn, and Savage Garden: They're all gone. Puff Daddy" he made a comeback this year. Busta Rhymes also had a hit in 2006. Mase: had 1 hit in the 00's and that was it. Usher hit it big in 97-98 and he's now more popular than he was than. Third Eye Blind: They;re gone. Matchbox Twenty: Not revelant anymore. Brandy and Monica: Not relevant anymore. DMX-he's not popular anymore.
I have a love/hate relationship with 1999 because I don;t like Britney Spears music. I however do get noglastic for 1999 when I hear a tune like "Hey Leonardo(She Likes For Me) by Blessid Union of Souls, Give It To You by Jordan Knight or "The Hardest Thing" by 98 Degrees. I don;t think Britney Spears's music from 1999-2000 has aged well at all or a tune like Jessica Simpson's "I Wanna Love You Forever" has aged well either.
If Britney teams up with Timbaland and comes out with an album this year, I bet ya she's easily popular again.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Marty McFly on 01/18/07 at 7:12 pm
Too some, yes, but I'll probably always be nostalgic for the early and mid '90s.
I think 1999 is just in that "more old school and dated/less current" middle category. It's not like I remember 1989 being in 1997, which almost felt like a slightly different era. Especially when Internet culture started taking off.
Subject: Re: The Late \'90s
Written By: Uncanny on 01/18/07 at 7:15 pm
I think 1999 is just in that \"more old school and dated/less current\" middle category. It\'s not like I remember 1989 being in 1997, which almost felt like a slightly different era. Especially when Internet culture started taking off.
I see it in terms of 8 years. By 1997 1989 was old school. Today, in 2007, 1999 is just becoming old school. I think it takes about 8 years for a time to become back in the day, at least if you\'re talking about the past 15 years or so, in the past it didn\'t take as long.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Marty McFly on 01/18/07 at 7:20 pm
I see it in terms of 8 years. By 1997 1989 was old school. Today, in 2007, 1999 is just becoming old school. I think it takes about 8 years for a time to become back in the day, at least if you\'re talking about the past 15 years or so, in the past it didn\'t take as long.
In the past (i.e. pre-late '90s), I think it took about 4 years for things to feel old or notably dated in general. True, I was younger then, so that's sorta from my own perspective, but it collectively seems like most people would've felt that way too.
1999 is now kinda in the category, say 1994 was then: still surface similarities, but alot of things were dated when you looked at the big picture.
Subject: Re: The Late \'90s
Written By: Uncanny on 01/18/07 at 7:22 pm
In the past (i.e. pre-late \'90s), I think it took about 4 years for things to feel old or notably dated in general. True, I was younger then, so that\'s sorta from my own perspective, but it collectively seems like most people would\'ve felt that way too.
1999 is now kinda in the category, say 1994 was then: still surface similarities, but alot of things were dated when you looked at the big picture.
I think it goes up to the \'90s, in 2001 1995 seemed pretty old. 2001 is only as close to now, and it doesn\'t really feel old.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Marty McFly on 01/18/07 at 7:25 pm
I think it goes up to the \'90s, in 2001 1995 seemed pretty old. 2001 is only as close to now, and it doesn\'t really feel old.
True. Oh yeah, that's weird, isn't it? 2001 is the age now that 1995 was then, and it doesn't feel like it. It feels about 3 years ago, not 6.
Subject: Re: The Late \'90s
Written By: Uncanny on 01/18/07 at 7:32 pm
True. Oh yeah, that\'s weird, isn\'t it? 2001 is the age now that 1995 was then, and it doesn\'t feel like it. It feels about 3 years ago, not 6.
In 1999 1995 seemed kind of recent, but by 2001 it seemed almost retro. 1999 and 2001 were pretty different.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Todd Pettingzoo on 01/19/07 at 11:49 pm
I knew the 80's were old by the mid 90's, but more like a recent old. They didn't feel mostly ancient history to me, till about '98/'99.
Now, the mid 90's feel like a recent old, the early 90's feel pretty ancient history, and the Late 90's feel very, very mildly old. They should feel pretty darn old, I mean it's about 10 years later, but for whatever reason, they don't.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 01/20/07 at 8:49 am
I think 1999 is just in that "more old school and dated/less current" middle category. It's not like I remember 1989 being in 1997, which almost felt like a slightly different era. Especially when Internet culture started taking off.
I was just thinking about how much older 1987 seemed in 1997, compared to the way 1997 feels in 2007. Granted 1987 will probably always seem ancient to me since I was born then, but even back in '97 it wasn't just the year that seemed old, it was the culture itself. Stuff like hair metal, and the teen pop of the late '80s was ancient history by 1997, not to mention the changes in tech that had occurred since then.
Since I was only 10, alot of my memories from '97 seem pretty old, but the year itself, and most of the pop culture of the time, still seems pretty new.
Subject: Re: The Late \'90s
Written By: tv on 01/24/07 at 5:14 pm
In 1999 1995 seemed kind of recent, but by 2001 it seemed almost retro. 1999 and 2001 were pretty different.
the 90's only seemed to get old to me in the latter portion of 2005. 1999 and 2001 were really not really different(It think teen-pop's popularity did kinda drop a bit in 2001 from where it was in 1999-2000 though.) I would say 2003 is pretty different than 1999 because of rap/R&B music expolding in popularity in 2003 with the arrival 50 Cent coming onto the scene.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Marty McFly on 01/25/07 at 7:50 pm
I was just thinking about how much older 1987 seemed in 1997, compared to the way 1997 feels in 2007. Granted 1987 will probably always seem ancient to me since I was born then, but even back in '97 it wasn't just the year that seemed old, it was the culture itself. Stuff like hair metal, and the teen pop of the late '80s was ancient history by 1997, not to mention the changes in tech that had occurred since then.
Since I was only 10, alot of my memories from '97 seem pretty old, but the year itself, and most of the pop culture of the time, still seems pretty new.
Yeah, I think it was the same for me. If I saw some John Cougar or Go Gos music videos from around my birthtime when I was 10 in the early '90s, it seemed like they were from awhile ago for both reasons (even if I knew it really was pretty recent).
The late '80s dated very quickly. In some ways 1997 was the beginning of what we're living in now, in terms of tech.
For example, if you take one of Weird Al's new songs (if not "White and Nerdy", maybe "Virus Alert") that has all kinds of Internet and modern tech references and took it back to 1997, it wouldn't be that foreign to people. They'd just think it was really advanced or brand new stuff they hadn't heard of yet (i.e. MySpace, Wikipedia), but play it for someone in the late '80s, they'd be like WTF?
A person from 1997 would probably be shocked if they found out this year was a full decade in the future. I think if it were me time travelling, I'd think it was, like 2003.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 01/26/07 at 5:00 pm
Yeah, I think it was the same for me. If I saw some John Cougar or Go Gos music videos from around my birthtime when I was 10 in the early '90s, it seemed like they were from awhile ago for both reasons (even if I knew it really was pretty recent).
The late '80s dated very quickly. In some ways 1997 was the beginning of what we're living in now, in terms of tech.
For example, if you take one of Weird Al's new songs (if not "White and Nerdy", maybe "Virus Alert") that has all kinds of Internet and modern tech references and took it back to 1997, it wouldn't be that foreign to people. They'd just think it was really advanced or brand new stuff they hadn't heard of yet (i.e. MySpace, Wikipedia), but play it for someone in the late '80s, they'd be like WTF?
A person from 1997 would probably be shocked if they found out this year was a full decade in the future. I think if it were me time travelling, I'd think it was, like 2003.
Yeah, back in 1997, things were changing pretty quick, especially in terms of tech, so I think people would be really surprised that things haven't really changed that much in the past decade. I recall that, back in the '90s, when I was in school we talked one time about how our class was going to graduate high school in 2005, and at the time, that was about 8 or 9 years away, so I actually thought that by the time I graduated we would probably have flying cars ;D
The only thing that I think people back in '97 would be really surprised about is how essential the internet has become. Back then the idea that the internet would actually be more popular than t.v. would've been outrageous.
I also don't think that most people in 1987 would believe that this is 20 years later. I'm sure that back then people thought things would be alot different by 2007. I would say that your average person back in '87 probably wouldn't think this was any later than 2000.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Marty McFly on 01/27/07 at 12:10 am
Yeah, back in 1997, things were changing pretty quick, especially in terms of tech, so I think people would be really surprised that things haven't really changed that much in the past decade. I recall that, back in the '90s, when I was in school we talked one time about how our class was going to graduate high school in 2005, and at the time, that was about 8 or 9 years away, so I actually thought that by the time I graduated we would probably have flying cars ;D
The only thing that I think people back in '97 would be really surprised about is how essential the internet has become. Back then the idea that the internet would actually be more popular than t.v. would've been outrageous.
I also don't think that most people in 1987 would believe that this is 20 years later. I'm sure that back then people thought things would be alot different by 2007. I would say that your average person back in '87 probably wouldn't think this was any later than 2000.
That's a good point. I remember circa 1997, despite the 'Net's global popularity, it was still seen as, maybe not a novelty, but a luxury that was fun and made research easier but not a necesitty.
It wasn't until a year or two later that people realized it was here to stay. Someone from 1998 or '99 probably wouldn't be too surprised how big it became like a 1997 time traveller would (although even they might be surprised how fast it took). Something like YouTube being as huge as it was might catch them off guard. Heck, I remember when those 30-second QuickTime video clips with crappy screen quality were amazing, lol.
Although I did read one of those Yahoo articles back in '98 that said Internet To Become Core Of Business By 2003 or something along those lines. And it made sense to me by then.
Yeah, people always overerestimate the future, probably from their own wishes for it to be advanced. Plus, it's hard to predict "logical" changes, so people always turn to the typical flying cars, house cleaning robots scenario. ;)
If people from the past were time travelling, this is probably when they'd think 2007 was:
1980: 1994
1985: 1998
1990: 2001
1995: 2003
1997: 2003
2000: 2004
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 01/30/07 at 1:11 am
That's a good point. I remember circa 1997, despite the 'Net's global popularity, it was still seen as, maybe not a novelty, but a luxury that was fun and made research easier but not a necesitty.
It wasn't until a year or two later that people realized it was here to stay. Someone from 1998 or '99 probably wouldn't be too surprised how big it became like a 1997 time traveller would (although even they might be surprised how fast it took). Something like YouTube being as huge as it was might catch them off guard. Heck, I remember when those 30-second QuickTime video clips with crappy screen quality were amazing, lol.
Although I did read one of those Yahoo articles back in '98 that said Internet To Become Core Of Business By 2003 or something along those lines. And it made sense to me by then.
Yeah, people always overerestimate the future, probably from their own wishes for it to be advanced. Plus, it's hard to predict "logical" changes, so people always turn to the typical flying cars, house cleaning robots scenario. ;)
If people from the past were time travelling, this is probably when they'd think 2007 was:
1980: 1994
1985: 1998
1990: 2001
1995: 2003
1997: 2003
2000: 2004
Yeah, that sounds about right. I agree that people always overestimate the future, heck I even do it sometimes now. Whenever I think about the way things may be in say 2027, it's hard not to imagine things being totally like The Jetsons since 20 years in the future seems so far away. I'm sure that back in the '80s, given that 20 years later would also be a new millennium, people thought things would be way different by now. I mean, even in the '90s I figured that the '00s would be pretty futuristic.
Also, the idea of something like Youtube back in 1997 would've seemed pretty crazy. Most people still had pretty slow internet connections then too, so alot of the things people do these days online that basically require a broadband connection would've not been available to most people then.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Marty McFly on 02/03/07 at 11:17 pm
Yeah, that sounds about right. I agree that people always overestimate the future, heck I even do it sometimes now. Whenever I think about the way things may be in say 2027, it's hard not to imagine things being totally like The Jetsons since 20 years in the future seems so far away. I'm sure that back in the '80s, given that 20 years later would also be a new millennium, people thought things would be way different by now. I mean, even in the '90s I figured that the '00s would be pretty futuristic.
Also, the idea of something like Youtube back in 1997 would've seemed pretty crazy. Most people still had pretty slow internet connections then too, so alot of the things people do these days online that basically require a broadband connection would've not been available to most people then.
That's true. While YouTube could have conceivably come out in 1997 techwise, I'm almost positive it wouldn't have been as popular. People probably would've gotten pretty annoyed at the slow connection speed and forget about it, lol. We had dial up at the time, and half the time, it would kick us offline or would take a couple tries to finally connect. Nowadays, that seems pretty old-school. ;)
Yeah, I think I'd overpredict 20 or even 10 years into the future, too. The number just sounds too far ahead to imagine, so I guess that's why we all fall back on easier, stereotypical predictions involving hi-tech stuff.
I could be wrong, but I'd imagine our ways of life won't really change until 2030 or 2050. But that seems soooo far now too, lol.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: malibumike65 on 02/04/07 at 12:42 am
I do believe that the DVD made it's debut in '97. Most people thought it would go the way of the laser disc.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 02/04/07 at 10:24 am
That's true. While YouTube could have conceivably come out in 1997 techwise, I'm almost positive it wouldn't have been as popular. People probably would've gotten pretty annoyed at the slow connection speed and forget about it, lol. We had dial up at the time, and half the time, it would kick us offline or would take a couple tries to finally connect. Nowadays, that seems pretty old-school. ;)
Yeah, I think I'd overpredict 20 or even 10 years into the future, too. The number just sounds too far ahead to imagine, so I guess that's why we all fall back on easier, stereotypical predictions involving hi-tech stuff.
I could be wrong, but I'd imagine our ways of life won't really change until 2030 or 2050. But that seems soooo far now too, lol.
Yeah, over the last 4 or 5 years broadband has become available to most people, and pretty affordable too, so dial-up is actually starting to become old-school itself. We had dial-up actually until just last year. It wasn't until then it became available in our rural area. And, I agree that Youtube could've come out in '97, but probably would've only been popular with the limited number of people that had broadband connections back then. I tried to watch video's on Youtube before we got DSL, and it is not fun ;D
I think that unless something big happens the 2020's probably wont be that much different than today, but I do think its possible for technology to advance at least enough for the '00s feel about as outdated then as the '80s do now.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 08/20/07 at 9:04 am
*Bump*
I've actually started to notice something kinda strange about the perception of the late '90s with todays high school/middle school crowd. That time period was so cheesy and campy, that I thought for sure that when the young kids of that time period got older they would make fun of it, and just dismiss the Y2K era all together.
But lately I've been watching quite a few music video's of songs from the late '90s, and very early '00s on Youtube, and in the comments I see alot of posts from the 15 and under crowd talking about how great late '90s music is and how much better things were "back then". They aren't even just a few isolated ones either, I see them on pretty much every video I watch from then.
Alot of them even go so far as to claim that they remember liking late '90s music when it was popular. I see alot of kids that were like 4-7 at that time claiming to have liked Y2K era stuff at the time and yesterday, someone who said they were 3 in 1999 claimed to remember when the Backstreet Boys were at there peak popularity. Is it just me, or do these kids a one heck of a good memory.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Marty McFly on 08/20/07 at 9:08 am
^Holy crap, there's 1996ers going online now? That's weird! But I've actually noticed the same thing on the comments section for some Savage Garden videos, although not from anyone that young. I've also seen lots of kids/younger teens mention how cool some '80s and '90s videos are and how "today's music sucks".
That goes beyond me even. I may have liked/semi remembered 1985 music when I was 3-4, but I wasn't calling 1992 music crap when it came around either. That definitely is an interesting point about modern time, if even literal children don't like it, lol.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: xSiouXBoIx on 08/20/07 at 9:10 am
fashions and trends from the late 90's, and even very early 2000's, are already starting to seem outdated to me. whenever i watch a movie from '97 ish-'01, like Scream, or She's All That, or Jaw Breaker or all the teen comedies that starting coming out, things look very different to me. I actually think the late 90's was one of the tackiest era's of fashion.
and i think it's weird how teen comedies and slasher movies became popular again in the late 90's, just like they were in the 80's.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 08/20/07 at 9:22 am
^Holy crap, there's 1996ers going online now? That's weird! But I've actually noticed the same thing on the comments section for some Savage Garden videos, although not from anyone that young. I've also seen lots of kids/younger teens mention how cool some '80s and '90s videos are and how "today's music sucks".
That goes beyond me even. I may have liked/semi remembered 1985 music when I was 3-4, but I wasn't calling 1992 music crap when it came around either. That definitely is an interesting point about modern time, if even literal children don't like it, lol.
Yeah, its hard to believe '96ers are 11 already. It wont be long, and some of them may start popping up on here. It's just weird that so many of them would claim to remember watching MTV when they were like 4 or something like that, almost like it's "cool" to remember the late '90s today. I would've never thought that a 6th grader in 2007 would like some of the music I liked when I was in the 6th grade in 1998. That's just weird.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Marty McFly on 08/20/07 at 9:27 am
Yeah, its hard to believe '96ers are 11 already. It wont be long, and some of them may start popping up on here. It's just weird that so many of them would claim to remember watching MTV when they were like 4 or something like that, almost like it's "cool" to remember the late '90s today. I would've never thought that a 6th grader in 2007 would like some of the music I liked when I was in the 6th grade in 1998. That's just weird.
Perhaps this is a reason why nostalgia picks up more steam all the time, and trends don't just go out of style in a year anymore. There's so much to choose from, and kids today probably just have even more outlets for finding "older" things than any of us did (which was pretty much TV, radio and magazines, or talking to people). I watched the video channels when I was 9, but not 4...and there were people who thought I was way ahead of my peers for even that, lol. One of my teachers said in 1991 about how he didn't get why I was so into MTV and VH1 like I was.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Brian06 on 08/20/07 at 2:50 pm
fashions and trends from the late 90's, and even very early 2000's, are already starting to seem outdated to me. whenever i watch a movie from '97 ish-'01, like Scream, or She's All That, or Jaw Breaker or all the teen comedies that starting coming out, things look very different to me. I actually think the late 90's was one of the tackiest era's of fashion.
and i think it's weird how teen comedies and slasher movies became popular again in the late 90's, just like they were in the 80's.
All I need to do is see a guy with spikey blonde hair and it pretty much screams later '90s. I guess it was better than these "emo" dudes that pretty much look and sound like women.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Brian06 on 08/20/07 at 2:53 pm
*Bump*
I've actually started to notice something kinda strange about the perception of the late '90s with todays high school/middle school crowd. That time period was so cheesy and campy, that I thought for sure that when the young kids of that time period got older they would make fun of it, and just dismiss the Y2K era all together.
But lately I've been watching quite a few music video's of songs from the late '90s, and very early '00s on Youtube, and in the comments I see alot of posts from the 15 and under crowd talking about how great late '90s music is and how much better things were "back then". They aren't even just a few isolated ones either, I see them on pretty much every video I watch from then.
Alot of them even go so far as to claim that they remember liking late '90s music when it was popular. I see alot of kids that were like 4-7 at that time claiming to have liked Y2K era stuff at the time and yesterday, someone who said they were 3 in 1999 claimed to remember when the Backstreet Boys were at there peak popularity. Is it just me, or do these kids a one heck of a good memory.
Yeah I've noticed this, you'll see some 13 year old commenting on a 1999 video "man those were the good old days". I'd imagine they probably remember more from a couple years later (in like 01 when it was still acceptable) when they were ~6 which would probably make more sense.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: xSiouXBoIx on 08/20/07 at 4:16 pm
All I need to do is see a guy with spikey blonde hair and it pretty much screams later '90s. I guess it was better than these "emo" dudes that pretty much look and sound like women.
yea, i remember when high lights became huge. i even had them. i thought they were the coolest things ever.
i also remember when fisher-man hats and hawaiin shirts became popular, and kakhis and overalls.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 08/21/07 at 11:09 am
Yeah I've noticed this, you'll see some 13 year old commenting on a 1999 video "man those were the good old days". I'd imagine they probably remember more from a couple years later (in like 01 when it was still acceptable) when they were ~6 which would probably make more sense.
Yeah, thats true. Even up until like early 2002, there was still alot of stuff from the late '90s that was popular. So I guess a current 13 year old who would've been 7 in 2001 may have picked up on and liked some Y2K era stuff that was still around. I just thought it was weird because when I was that age(back in 2000), most people my age really could've cared less about what was popular in like 1991. That's not to say that I didn't like music from that time, I did like some, but most everybody in my class was way more into Nu Metal, Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, etc.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Brian06 on 08/21/07 at 2:37 pm
Yeah, thats true. Even up until like early 2002, there was still alot of stuff from the late '90s that was popular. So I guess a current 13 year old who would've been 7 in 2001 may have picked up on and liked some Y2K era stuff that was still around. I just thought it was weird because when I was that age(back in 2000), most people my age really could've cared less about what was popular in like 1991. That's not to say that I didn't like music from that time, I did like some, but most everybody in my class was way more into Nu Metal, Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, etc.
Yeah it's weird, somehow the y2k era stuff is just very well known among young kids today, maybe because it appealed to a younger crowd? I don't know.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: tv on 08/21/07 at 4:45 pm
Yeah it's weird, somehow the y2k era stuff is just very well known among young kids today, maybe because it appealed to a younger crowd? I don't know.
Yeah the Y2k era stuff did appeal to a younger crowd I believe like 9-12 year old people(at the time)with stuff with the Backstreet Boys and Britney so thats why the people in High School miss the Y2 era I suppose that spanned 1999-2002 I would think right?
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 08/21/07 at 5:45 pm
Yeah the Y2k era stuff did appeal to a younger crowd I believe like 9-12 year old people(at the time)with stuff with the Backstreet Boys and Britney so thats why the people in High School miss the Y2 era I suppose that spanned 1999-2002 I would think right?
Yeah, that's true. But I've seen some even younger than 9 posting about how much they loved the late '90s. Like I said, I've seen some who were as young as 3 or 4 in 1999 talking about how much better it is than today. It's not really the kids in high school liking the Y2K era that surprised me, I was pretty young then myself(12 in 1999 and 15 in 2002), it's just the fact that quite a few middle school kids are into it that surprised me.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Marty McFly on 08/21/07 at 6:31 pm
I wonder if there were even more really young kids into the Y2K music than people even realized? Me being 17 in 1998/'99 and 20 in 2001/'02 I wouldn't have known firsthand of course, but this had to be the case. I bet there were people buying boy band CDs for their little siblings and such.
The idea they like or would remember the music from this time slightly later on (when it was sorta cool and hadn't yet faded from common radio play) isn't too surprising, since I had a similar experience myself. Where it's shocking is how they favor it so much over what's out there now. Like I said, when I was 10 in 1991 I definitely enjoyed the "classic" mid '80s songs on the radio or MTV/VH1...some of them I already knew from back then. However I equally enjoyed what was new or semi new then.
In other words, I wasn't calling "How Do You Talk To An Angel", "Under the Bridge", Paula Abdul, Phil Collins or tail end power ballads "crap". That's got to say something about the industry, either that or people are just getting more old-school all the time. ;)
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 08/21/07 at 6:44 pm
^Yeah, that's another thing that I found really strange about alot of the comments I've seen. When I was, say 12 I had a certain appreciation of songs from the late '80s/early '90s, but I was really into what was popular then. Not only do some of these kids appear to not be into what's popular today, most of them seem to really hate it.
Granted in like 1999, there was some stuff I didn't really care for, like some of the teen pop songs, some rap, and a couple of Nu Metal songs, but there were way more songs then that I liked than not.
I can compare some of what I've heard to my own experiences. New Kids On The Block were huge in 1990 when I was 3, but didn't even know who they were until I was like 6 or 7.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: Marty McFly on 08/21/07 at 6:53 pm
^Yeah, that's another thing that I found really strange about alot of the comments I've seen. When I was, say 12 I had a certain appreciation of songs from the late '80s/early '90s, but I was really into what was popular then. Not only do some of these kids appear to not be into what's popular today, most of them seem to really hate it.
Granted in like 1999, there was some stuff I didn't really care for, like some of the teen pop songs, some rap, and a couple of Nu Metal songs, but there were way more songs then that I liked than not.
I can compare some of what I've heard to my own experiences. New Kids On The Block were huge in 1990 when I was 3, but didn't even know who they were until I was like 6 or 7.
You know what? When I was younger, I used to claim 1991 and 1992 were "the eighties", even if only barely, and I now realize why. Back then, I was either just discovering or getting deeper into alot of stuff that I might've not paid as much attention to a couple years earlier. When I would see "U Can't Touch This", "The Flame", "Straight Up" and "Free Fallin'" on the video channels constantly, my personal perception made it seem like a very 1989ish time.
Lots of times, personal experience can have a runoff of a couple years, particularly if you're a kid.
Plus, in real life, it doesn't play out the way TV shows make it seem...where anything more than 2 years out of date gets trashed by people, especially kids. Things pervade for quite awhile beyond their actual time. I remember lots of people who kept with NES games and '80s music (actually more early-mid '80s) well into the '90s and weren't laughed at for it at all. It was usually just oddball things that were cheesy.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 08/21/07 at 7:03 pm
You know what? When I was younger, I used to claim 1991 and 1992 were "the eighties", even if only barely, and I now realize why. Back then, I was either just discovering or getting deeper into alot of stuff that I might've not paid as much attention to a couple years earlier. When I would see "U Can't Touch This", "The Flame", "Straight Up" and "Free Fallin'" on the video channels constantly, my personal perception made it seem like a very 1989ish time.
Lots of times, personal experience can have a runoff of a couple years, particularly if you're a kid.
Plus, in real life, it doesn't play out the way TV shows make it seem...where anything more than 2 years out of date gets trashed by people, especially kids. Things pervade for quite awhile beyond their actual time. I remember lots of people who kept with NES games and '80s music (actually more early-mid '80s) well into the '90s and weren't laughed at for it at all. It was usually just oddball things that were cheesy.
I sort of did the same thing with 2000 and 2001 a couple of years ago. Since so much stuff from 1997-1999 carried over into the early '00s, and video's by more '90s oriented artists like Lenny Kravitz for example were still being played from time to time, it still sort of seemed like the '90s to me even if it wasn't anymore.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 08/22/07 at 10:55 am
This is slightly off topic, but I've noticed something else weird about the '90s on Youtube that proves the '90s have never really become "uncool" even if they've become a bit dated.
On some of the '90s related video's I've been watching lately, I've seen alot of kids born in the '90s replying on those talking about how well they remember the decade and how great it was. It's not really the 1990-1992 born ones replying that makes it strange, since they were at least partial '90s kids, and probably remember the later part of the decade very well, its the ones that are like 12 or 13 now that are saying it that I find kinda weird.
On some of the "You know your a '90s kid if..." video's I've seen some '95ers and even '96ers claiming to be '90s kids. Its weird because, speaking form experience, most of us '80s born kids wanted nothing to do with the '80s in the '90s.
Subject: Re: The Late '90s
Written By: tv on 08/22/07 at 11:12 am
Yeah, that's true. But I've seen some even younger than 9 posting about how much they loved the late '90s. Like I said, I've seen some who were as young as 3 or 4 in 1999 talking about how much better it is than today. It's not really the kids in high school liking the Y2K era that surprised me, I was pretty young then myself(12 in 1999 and 15 in 2002), it's just the fact that quite a few middle school kids are into it that surprised me.
I can't believe that people who were 3 year olds in 1999 like the the boyband thing. I mean the Boy band thing is just so uncool to me now. I don;t know see I can like some of the boy band stuff that came out in 1997-1998 but the boy band stuff from 1999-2000 got on my nerves because it was just so overexposed to me that it just wore out its welcome(maybe thats why its so uncool to me, mainly BSB and N"sync in 1999, but 98 Degrees I kinda dig to this day sorry to admit.)I can listen to a N'Sync song like "Tearin Up My Heart" but something like Bye, Bye, Bye I can't stand.
1999 was one of the corniest years in music just as 2007 is in my opinion. I often like down on 1999 in terms of the music scene at the time even though I do like some of the songs from 1999 but 1999 just wasn't was good as 1992-1998.