The '90s were never backlashed in the '00s, right? Sort of. The 1990s decade has never been an object of hate, because the decade had so many different flavors, but the millennial era of 1997-2001 (I think 2002 and 2003, hell maybe even 2004 had a little millennial culture too) was backlashed.  In 2001, the boy bands died out. In 2003/'04, nu metal and Britney died out.

Maybe 1990-1999 was never widely backlashed, but the juvenile Millennial era was, which created the pretentious '00s.

The '90s were never backlashed in the '00s, right? Sort of. The 1990s decade has never been an object of hate, because the decade had so many different flavors, but the millennial era of 1997-2001 (I think 2002 and 2003, hell maybe even 2004 had a little millennial culture too) was backlashed.  In 2001, the boy bands died out. In 2003/'04, nu metal and Britney died out.

Maybe 1990-1999 was never widely backlashed, but the juvenile Millennial era was, which created the pretentious '00s.


If anything is somewhat backlashed it is the 1999-2001 peak teen pop Y2K timeperiod. Millennial culture died around spring 2002 with the last latin pop hits and NSYNC hit.

Yeah, I agree with that. People are backlashed against 1999 moreso than anything else...though you have to agree there is a vague distaste for the rest of the '90s because their coolness went on too long.

Yeah, I agree with that. People are backlashed against 1999 moreso than anything else...though you have to agree there is a vague distaste for the rest of the '90s because their coolness went on too long.


I think the '90s are seen as dorky, but they weren't full of themself enough to truly ever be hated, except for the complete stupidity of 1999 that is very hated.  You wouldn't wear flannel or wear your basehall hat backwards, but you wouldn't be shot for it like you would in the '90s if you dressed '80s.

I think the '90s are seen as dorky, but they weren't full of themself enough to truly ever be hated, except for the complete stupidity of 1999 that is very hated.  You wouldn't wear flannel or wear your basehall hat backwards, but you wouldn't be shot for it like you would in the '90s if you dressed '80s.


Yeah...it's just passe/uncool, and I think a little "forgotten." Most people think they were sort of dorky/sloppy.

Yeah...it's just passe/uncool, and I think a little "forgotten." Most people think they were sort of dorky/sloppy.


Do you think that the reason the '90s were never backlashed is because 1997-2001 was a little era of its own? That time was backlashed, but the '90s in general weren't, because the Y2K era is mostly '90s.

1990 and 1991 was backlashed along with the '80s in the '90s because as '90s as it was then, by 1992 it was clear it was just the last phase of the '80s. As cheesy as 1989-1991 was, it wasn't any cheesier than the real 1980s, which were still very clear on people's minds (how could you forget them?  ;D).

The '90s were never backlashed in the '00s, right? Sort of. The 1990s decade has never been an object of hate, because the decade had so many different flavors, but the millennial era of 1997-2001 (I think 2002 and 2003, hell maybe even 2004 had a little millennial culture too) was backlashed.  In 2001, the boy bands died out. In 2003/'04, nu metal and Britney died out.

Maybe 1990-1999 was never widely backlashed, but the juvenile Millennial era was, which created the pretentious '00s.


True, the Millenial era seems to be a backlash against Y2K, and trying to be as unlike 1999 as possible. Hell, I would argue 1993 is probably cooler than 1999 is, and far less "hated".

True, the Millenial era seems to be a backlash against Y2K, and trying to be as unlike 1999 as possible. Hell, I would argue 1993 is probably cooler than 1999 is, and far less "hated".


There are plenty of people who think the Lollapalooza, late 1991-early 1998 '90s were lame, though. Part of it is that they were less materialistic and aesthetic. I agree the whole '00s is a backlash against 1999...it's sort of like how kids in high school disparage how "immature" they were in middle school.

I think the '90s are seen as dorky, but they weren't full of themself enough to truly ever be hated, except for the complete stupidity of 1999 that is very hated.  You wouldn't wear flannel or wear your basehall hat backwards, but you wouldn't be shot for it like you would in the '90s if you dressed '80s.

Believe it or not, I still see people with backwards baseball hats today (and not just people who are 1978ers still thinking it's cool and trying to be badass), but a saw a couple 12-13 year old boys the other day. It's definitely not "cool" anymore, but it's kinda just "there" and not completely hated either, if you know what I mean.

Weird, because even when that was going on, I recalled thinking it would look moronically stupid in the years to come. Around '94 I was sure that "by 2000, these guys will get an *ss kicking if they still look like that!" ;D I wasn't entirely right, though.

True, the Millenial era seems to be a backlash against Y2K, and trying to be as unlike 1999 as possible. Hell, I would argue 1993 is probably cooler than 1999 is, and far less "hated".


Doesn't it almost seem like anything before 1999/Y2K is "Early '90s/Old School"?  The "Lollapalooza Era" isn't hated, it's more forgotten because of the more memorable late '90s.

Doesn't it almost seem like anything before 1999/Y2K is "Early '90s/Old School"?  The "Lollapalooza Era" isn't hated, it's more forgotten because of the more memorable late '90s.


It isn't hated, but it isn't liked either.

Believe it or not, I still see people with backwards baseball hats today (and not just people who are 1978ers still thinking it's cool and trying to be badass), but a saw a couple 12-13 year old boys the other day. It's definitely not "cool" anymore, but it's kinda just "there" and not completely hated either, if you know what I mean.

Weird, because even when that was going on, I recalled thinking it would look moronically stupid in the years to come. Around '94 I was sure that "by 2000, these guys will get an *ss kicking if they still look like that!" ;D I wasn't entirely right, though.


I see it every now and then. It's not cool to do it anyone, but it's not uncool either. Most people would prefer to wear it to the side or front.

Yeah, I suppose there was a backlash against the Y2K era but, that time's not nearly as hated/ridiculed as the '80s was in the '90s. In some ways the '90s are eternally cool, but I agree that they are seen as mostly uncool today. Btw I saw someone wearing a backwards baseball cap last night :D. It's not nearly as popular as it was c. 1995 but it's defidently still out there.

Doesn't it almost seem like anything before 1999/Y2K is "Early '90s/Old School"?  The "Lollapalooza Era" isn't hated, it's more forgotten because of the more memorable late '90s.


Yeah, I think because c. 1999 things were highly "kid focused" (probably the 8-14 age group with Pokemon, boy bands, etc) it's more memorable instantly. Sad to say, but I have a feeling the grunge era of 1991-96 won't be the focus part of the '90s in the future.

Kid in 2020: Hey dude, I just found some cool 90s stuff from the garage that my parents have!
Friend: Pokemon cards?

;D

Yeah, I think because c. 1999 things were highly "kid focused" (probably the 8-14 age group with Pokemon, boy bands, etc) it's more memorable instantly. Sad to say, but I have a feeling the grunge era of 1991-96 won't be the focus part of the '90s in the future.

Kid in 2020: Hey dude, I just found some cool 90s stuff from the garage that my parents have!
Friend: Pokemon cards?

;D


I actually think the converse...it'll be for the grunge/house music/gangsta rap era that nostalgia will focus on in the '10s.

Yeah, I think because c. 1999 things were highly "kid focused" (probably the 8-14 age group with Pokemon, boy bands, etc) it's more memorable instantly. Sad to say, but I have a feeling the grunge era of 1991-96 won't be the focus part of the '90s in the future.

Kid in 2020: Hey dude, I just found some cool 90s stuff from the garage that my parents have!
Friend: Pokemon cards?

;D


I think it will sort of be both, like how the '80s is remembered for New Wave and Knight Rider and New Kids and Ninja Turtles.  People talk about Grunge, Power Rangers, Pokemon, and Boy Bands when they talk about the '90s.  People born in the late '70s and early '80s will focus on the 1992-1996 era and people born in the late '80s and early '90s will focus on 1997-2001.

I actually think the converse...it'll be for the grunge/house music/gangsta rap era that nostalgia will focus on in the '10s.


I hope it is. ;)

90s nostalgia will probably center on 1989-95, but after that, I think the average thing from 1999 will be more "household name recognizable" than the average thing from 1992 (again 'cause the grunge era and alot of the coffeehouse cultue was aimed at, like 14-29 year olds, as opposed to the more 10 year old focused late '90s), but on that, I really hope I'm wrong.

people born in the late '80s and early '90s will focus on 1997-2001.

Except me. ;)

Except me. ;)


And me.  ;)

I think it will sort of be both, like how the '80s is remembered for New Wave and Knight Rider and New Kids and Ninja Turtles.  People talk about Grunge, Power Rangers, Pokemon, and Boy Bands when they talk about the '90s.  People born in the late '70s and early '80s will focus on the 1992-1996 era and people born in the late '80s and early '90s will focus on 1997-2001.



Yeah, I think both will be remembered as well. But I also agree with Marty that the late '90s may be more focused on since that's a much cheesier era than the core '90s years.

I think it will sort of be both, like how the '80s is remembered for New Wave and Knight Rider and New Kids and Ninja Turtles.  People talk about Grunge, Power Rangers, Pokemon, and Boy Bands when they talk about the '90s.  People born in the late '70s and early '80s will focus on the 1992-1996 era and people born in the late '80s and early '90s will focus on 1997-2001.


I agree.

Do you think roughly around the age of 13 or 14 is when people are truly the most "imprinted" by life in general, just because it's kinda the true halfway point of being a kid and an adult? Like around the "awkward" stage of puberty where you're not a "child" anymore for sure, but you're also not quite at the stage of having to get a job or plan for college either.

I actually would say so.

Even though 1984 is my fave pop culture year, just as far as personal things in my life went, say 1994-97 is probably what I'll like for the rest of my life. By that point, it was clear that I had "stuck with" the '80s and didn't look at Huey Lewis as "some old crap I listned to when I was 6", and was also really into alot of the Jim Carrey/Adam Sandler type movies, as well as just basic "life" things.

I hope it is. ;)

90s nostalgia will probably center on 1989-95, but after that, I think the average thing from 1999 will be more "household name recognizable" than the average thing from 1992 (again 'cause the grunge era and alot of the coffeehouse cultue was aimed at, like 14-29 year olds, as opposed to the more 10 year old focused late '90s), but on that, I really hope I'm wrong.


Do you think 1988 and 1989 are somewhat agreeable to the '90s? Something from 1984 wouldn't go with anything '90s, but a lot of '90s culture began around 1988-1989. I'd argue things from 1988 would be even more acceptable than things from 1990 in 1995.

I agree.

Do you think roughly around the age of 13 or 14 is when people are most "imprinted", just because it's kinda the true halfway point of being a kid and an adult? (Like around the "awkward" stage of puberty.) I actually would say so.

Even though 1984 is my fave pop culture year, just as far as personal things go, the stuff I liked from, say 1994-97 is probably what I'll like for life. By this point, it was clear that I had "stuck with" the '80s and didn't look at Huey Lewis as "some old crap I listned to when I was 6", and was also really into alot of the Jim Carrey/Adam Sandler type movies.


I'd say age 9 to 15 is when your world view takes shape.  Before that is my nostalgia era; 9-15 (for me, 1999-2005) is the time I grew up. I might be nostalgic about it 20 years from now.

Do you think 1988 and 1989 are somewhat agreeable to the '90s? Something from 1984 wouldn't go with anything '90s, but a lot of '90s culture began around 1988-1989. I'd argue things from 1988 would be even more acceptable than things from 1990 in 1995.


Yeah, because it wasn't in that "it's so recent, we gotta make fun at it and kick its a*s!" category. And 1988 stuff was kinda underground in terms of what it in would become "90s", so it wasn't hit over the head to people like it was in 1990 with Vanilla Ice or New Kids. ;)

Yeah, because it wasn't in that "it's so recent, we gotta make fun at it and kick its a*s!" category. And 1988 stuff was kinda underground in terms of what it in would become "90s", so it wasn't hit over the head to people like it was in 1990 with Vanilla Ice or New Kids. ;)


What amount of '90s do you think was in the late '80s? I'd say 1986 was 2% '90s, 1987 5% '90s, 1988 15% '90s and 1989 20% '90s.

I'd say age 9 to 15 is when your world view takes shape.  Before that is my nostalgia era; 9-15 (for me, 1999-2005) is the time I grew up. I might be nostalgic about it 20 years from now.

Yeah, 16 is close enough to being an adult (it's alot more like 20 than it is like 12), and 8 is still the end of your "little kid" phase. Even though roughly 9-11 is still a part of childhood, your thinking is usually a bit matured as well, if you know what I mean (it's when you start wanting to be older or rejecting "kid" stuff or toys, etc).

I guess 1991-96 is like that for me (hey, the grunge era in its entirety!). :D Whereas pre-1991 is almost entirely cushy childhood memories.

Yeah, 16 is close enough to being an adult that, and 8 is still the end of your "little kid" phase. Even though roughly 9-11 is still a part of childhood, your thinking is usually a bit matured as well, if you know what I mean (it's when you start wanting to be older or rejecting "kid" stuff or toys, etc).

I guess 1991-96 is like that for me (hey, the grunge era in its entirety!). :D Whereas pre-1991 is almost entirely cushy childhood memories.


I do think the "curiosity nostalgic" teens of the 2010s who'll dig the '90s will find the early-mid '90s more interesting.

I do think the "curiosity nostalgic" teens of the 2010s who'll dig the '90s will find the early-mid '90s more interesting.



Yeah, the average '10s teen who's into the '90s will defidently be more interested in 1991-1996 than the late '90s.

I'd say age 9 to 15 is when your world view takes shape.  Before that is my nostalgia era; 9-15 (for me, 1999-2005) is the time I grew up. I might be nostalgic about it 20 years from now.

Yeah I'm mainly nostalgic for being a 4-5 year old in 1994 and 1995. Being 6 in 1996 is pretty close too. My late '90s life was pretty cool, but not as awesome as the mid '90s.

Yeah I'm mainly nostalgic for being a 4-5 year old in 1994 and 1995. Being 6 in 1996 is pretty close too. My late '90s life was pretty cool, but not as awesome as the mid '90s.



I tend to be nostalgic for my being 4-10(1992-1997) even though recently i've been a bit nostalgic for some stuff up until when I was 13 in 2000.

I don't know..I think the 90s "backlash" period is shorter than was the 80's backlash period of the early 90s. Some of the younger posters may not remember or know, but between about 1992-95..the eighties were NOT cool especially to younger people who were born in the 80s. The 90s seemed to me an era of 70s nostalgia if anything (music, clothes, movies and features about the deacde, etc) as usually there is a 20-year gap for nostalgia to set in (I remember the 80s were a lot about early-mid sixties nostalgia and of course the 70s were FULL of fifties nostalgia with Happy Days, Grease, etc). Now, in the mid 2000s it seems appropriate enough for the 80's to have their turn in the sun, but it seems already 90s nostalgia is here and even early 2000s..and the decade isn't even out. 1990 was sixteen years ago..so it may just be on the cusp of being long enough ago to garner nostalgia, but I could not bring myself to watch an episode of "I love the nineties: 1999" in 2005..it was only SIX years earlier. I'm still not used to the era that I was born in being considered "old" and that's pushing 30 years ago. A lot on here ask "When did a decade end"..well the nineties ended on Dec 31, 1999..plain and simple if you ask me. But the "era" I think, regardless of age, the era of good feelings (I don't count the music because I was not in the teen pop audience when it started), ended on September 11, 2001 (or perhaps January 20, 2001)..right when the millenium turned.

I actually think the converse...it'll be for the grunge/house music/gangsta rap era that nostalgia will focus on in the '10s.


That makes more sense, with the whole "20 year gap" thing. But why does our society seem to forget that there are people who were teens in the late 80s and early 90s and that culture matters too. It seems we have went from 80s nostalgia (which still makes some sense because it was 20 years ago now) right to "late 90s" nostalgia, totally skipping the 1988-1995 era?? I know the late 90s were a good time financially and the mood of the country was probably better than either the early 90s or early 00s (early 80s, 70s too for that matter)..but how can NSYNC be an item of "nostalgia"? I know some kids on here who are about 15 now who miss the "old days" of 1999-2000..but when I was 15 in 1992, the mid eighties were the last thing on our mind, because as a culture, the era was just ending figuring that in about ten years we may want to revisit it. I don't recall even feling nostalgic for the 80s until at LEAST 1998..there was an "eighties station" here that lasted about a year in 1998-99 or so..now the 80s are dumped with the 60s and 70s as "oldies". Now I am waiting for a teen driven pop 1999 song to be played on the oldies station..even before the great alt stuff of 1990-95 gets a chance.