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Subject: Song Cusps of the '90s
Written By: WalkerP20 on 06/10/06 at 3:37 pm
I'm talking about Cusps if the entire '90s, not just 89/90 or 99/2000
For instance, a song that was Popular in both December 1994 and January 1995.
Anyway, I was thinking about real popular songs from the '90s that were Cuspers going from one year into another and I was wondering which year you guys would consider a certain song to fit into.
"Tom's Diner" - Suzanne Vega ft. DNA
(Was first on the Hot 100 in October 1990, but didn't peak until early January 1991. I've always considered this a 1990 song, but alot of other people think otherwise)
"Smells Like Teen Spirit" - Nirvana
(Was first on the Hot 100 in November 1991, but didn't peak until early January 1992. Obviously most people consider this a 1991 song, as it was Big on the Rock Stations around November/December 1991 and then was Big on Top 40 Radio around December 1991/January 1992)
"Black or White" - Michael Jackson
(Released in late November 1991 and reached #1 around Christmas of 1991, stayed at #1 until January 25th, 1992. More people consider this a 1991 song and so do I)
"I Will Always Love You" - Whitney Houston
(First peaked at #1 on November 28th, 1992 and it's last week at #1 was February 27th, 1993. So this one is definately an interesting one. The majority of people have always considered this a 1993 Song, and so do I, as it was the first #1 hit of that year and continued to play alot throughout the rest of the year, but it was first released in Late 1992 and even reached #1 first in Late 1992)
"I'd Do Anything For Love, But I Won't Do That" - Meatloaf
(Ok, so this one is probably a runaway 1993'er, but it peaked in late November/early December 1993 and lingered over to early 1994. It was the #5 Song on the Billboard Hot 100 on January 1st, 1994)
"Here Comes The Hotstepper" - Ini Kamoze
(Reached #1 on December 17th, 1994 and December 24th, 1994. It also lingered over to 1995 and was Big Hit from early 1995 as well. Many people consider this song to be a 1995 song)
"Another Night" - Real McCoy
(Was a Huge Hit in both December 1994 and January 1995, this is definately a tough one to call, but most people consider it a 1994 song)
"Breakfast At Tiffany's" - Deep Blue Something
(First became a big hit in November/December 1995, but peaked in January 1996. I've always considered this a 1995 song)
"I Believe I Can Fly" - R. Kelly
(Peaked in late December 1996, but maintained it's peak during January 1997 as well. I consider this a 1996 song, as do others)
"Unbreak My Heart" - Toni Braxton
(Peaked on December 7th, 1996 at #1, but then stayed in the Top 3 all the way through March 1997)
"Truly, Madly, Deeply" - Savage Garden
(First hit the charts in December 1997 and was a Big Hit in December 1997 and peaked at #1 in early January 1998. I used to always consider this a 1997 song, but i'm leaning more towards 1998 now)
"Save Tonight" - Eagle Eye Cherry
(Big Hit in late 1998 and early 1999. Peaked in Mid January 1999, but many people consider this to be a 1998 song all the way, as do I)
"Slide" - Goo Goo Dolls
(This was actually a #1 Hit on the Modern Rock Charts in October 1998, but didn't get onto the Hot 100 until December 1998 and peaked around April/May of 1999 on the Hot 100. This one is an unusual one considering how long it stayed on the charts. I consider this song to be a 1999 song)
What do you guys think? ANy opinions on each song and where they belong?
Subject: Re: Song Cusps of the '90s
Written By: D.J. on 06/10/06 at 3:46 pm
I'm talking about Cusps if the entire '90s, not just 89/90 or 99/2000
For instance, a song that was Popular in both December 1994 and January 1995.
Anyway, I was thinking about real popular songs from the '90s that were Cuspers going from one year into another and I was wondering which year you guys would consider a certain song to fit into.
"Tom's Diner" - Suzanne Vega ft. DNA
(Was first on the Hot 100 in October 1990, but didn't peak until early January 1991. I've always considered this a 1990 song, but alot of other people think otherwise)
"Smells Like Teen Spirit" - Nirvana
(Was first on the Hot 100 in November 1991, but didn't peak until early January 1992. Obviously most people consider this a 1991 song, as it was Big on the Rock Stations around November/December 1991 and then was Big on Top 40 Radio around December 1991/January 1992)
"Black or White" - Michael Jackson
(Released in late November 1991 and reached #1 around Christmas of 1991, stayed at #1 until January 25th, 1992. More people consider this a 1991 song and so do I)
"I Will Always Love You" - Whitney Houston
(First peaked at #1 on November 28th, 1992 and it's last week at #1 was February 27th, 1993. So this one is definately an interesting one. The majority of people have always considered this a 1993 Song, and so do I, as it was the first #1 hit of that year and continued to play alot throughout the rest of the year, but it was first released in Late 1992 and even reached #1 first in Late 1992)
"I'd Do Anything For Love, But I Won't Do That" - Meatloaf
(Ok, so this one is probably a runaway 1993'er, but it peaked in late November/early December 1993 and lingered over to early 1994. It was the #5 Song on the Billboard Hot 100 on January 1st, 1994)
"Here Comes The Hotstepper" - Ini Kamoze
(Reached #1 on December 17th, 1994 and December 24th, 1994. It also lingered over to 1995 and was Big Hit from early 1995 as well. Many people consider this song to be a 1995 song)
"Another Night" - Real McCoy
(Was a Huge Hit in both December 1994 and January 1995, this is definately a tough one to call, but most people consider it a 1994 song)
"Breakfast At Tiffany's" - Deep Blue Something
(First became a big hit in November/December 1995, but peaked in January 1996. I've always considered this a 1995 song)
"I Believe I Can Fly" - R. Kelly
(Peaked in late December 1996, but maintained it's peak during January 1997 as well. I consider this a 1996 song, as do others)
"Unbreak My Heart" - Toni Braxton
(Peaked on December 7th, 1996 at #1, but then stayed in the Top 3 all the way through March 1997)
"Truly, Madly, Deeply" - Savage Garden
(First hit the charts in December 1997 and was a Big Hit in December 1997 and peaked at #1 in early January 1998. I used to always consider this a 1997 song, but i'm leaning more towards 1998 now)
"Save Tonight" - Eagle Eye Cherry
(Big Hit in late 1998 and early 1999. Peaked in Mid January 1999, but many people consider this to be a 1998 song all the way, as do I)
"Slide" - Goo Goo Dolls
(This was actually a #1 Hit on the Modern Rock Charts in October 1998, but didn't get onto the Hot 100 until December 1998 and peaked around April/May of 1999 on the Hot 100. This one is an unusual one considering how long it stayed on the charts. I consider this song to be a 1999 song)
What do you guys think? ANy opinions on each song and where they belong?
1)I don't know this song so I can't debate this one.
2)Definitely 1991. It was out even in November so it must be considered 1991(Music Choice also says 1991)
3)Once again, 1991. It was out in November so it's definitely 1991.
4)Normally, I'd say 1993 but since it was #1 for a short period in 1992, 1992 it is.
5)Definitely 1993.
6)1995.
7)It peaked around Christmas 1994. Hard one to call but I'm leaning more towards 1995.
8)I say 1995 as well.
9)The song appeared in Space Jam, which was released in November 1996 so it has to be 1996 although most will say 1997.
10)The majority was spent in 1997 so it's probably a 1997 song although it could go 1996.
11)Could go either way.
12)This is the most obvious. It first debuted around August/September 1998 so it has to be 1998.
13)Probably more of a 1999 song although you could make a good argument about 1998.
Subject: Re: Song Cusps of the '90s
Written By: WalkerP20 on 06/10/06 at 3:53 pm
Definitely 1991. It was out even in November so it must be considered 1991(Music Choice also says 1991)
While I and most everyone else would agree that it's 1991, "Music Choice" only lists the Year that the Album was Released, not when the actual song was at it's Most Popular on the Radio/Charts. So I wouldn't go by what "Music Choice" tells you, since it only lists Album Release Years
btw, about "Tom's Diner" by Suzanne Vega. I'm sure you have heard it, it's one of those songs that pretty much everyone has heard, but they don't know the name of it or who sings it. Infact, here is the Music Video for it from YouTube.com. Check it out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFih5NCXFl0
Subject: Re: Song Cusps of the '90s
Written By: D.J. on 06/10/06 at 4:14 pm
While I and most everyone else would agree that it's 1991, "Music Choice" only lists the Year that the Album was Released, not when the actual song was at it's Most Popular on the Radio/Charts. So I wouldn't go by what "Music Choice" tells you, since it only lists Album Release Years
btw, about "Tom's Diner" by Suzanne Vega. I'm sure you have heard it, it's one of those songs that pretty much everyone has heard, but they don't know the name of it or who sings it. Infact, here is the Music Video for it from YouTube.com. Check it out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFih5NCXFl0
Shouldn't it go by when the song came out and not when it peaked? I watched the video and I remember the song now. Just hadn't heard it in a long time.
Subject: Re: Song Cusps of the '90s
Written By: WalkerP20 on 06/10/06 at 7:45 pm
Shouldn't it go by when the song came out and not when it peaked? I watched the video and I remember the song now. Just hadn't heard it in a long time.
That's Debatable. There are some songs however that don't go by that
Such as "Kiss From A Rose" by Seal. The Album with that song on it was Released in June 1994, but the song wasn't released as a Hit Single until a year later and became a #1 Hit in August 1995. Which means it's a 1995 Song all the way
There are alot of Albums released in certain years that produce alot of hit singles over the span of maybe 2 years. Like Michael Jackson's "Dangerous", which was released in 1991, but that album was still releasing hit songs through 1993, so why would a song that was a hit in 1993 be considered a 1991 song just because that's when the album was released?
It's all about when the Song was Popular on the Radio and on the Charts
Subject: Re: Song Cusps of the '90s
Written By: whistledog on 06/10/06 at 8:53 pm
It also depends on what country you are in. "Kiss From A Rose" for example was a Top 20 hit in the UK in 1994. It didn't catch on in the US until 1995
Subject: Re: Song Cusps of the '90s
Written By: WalkerP20 on 06/11/06 at 5:37 am
It also depends on what country you are in. "Kiss From A Rose" for example was a Top 20 hit in the UK in 1994. It didn't catch on in the US until 1995
It's not that it didn't "catch on" in the US in 1994, it's just that it didn't get noticed until it was on the "Batman Forever" Soundtrack. The song was successful in the Summer of 1995 because of that Movie
Subject: Re: Song Cusps of the '90s
Written By: namilliron on 06/11/06 at 2:46 pm
And I technically consider TMD by SavageGarden a 1997 record as it was the title track from the parent album.
Their song "I Want You" IMHO is a complete rip-off of Roxette, but that's me.