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Subject: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/07/06 at 9:33 pm

IMO:

Teen of the '90s (or colloquial "child of the '90s"): Somebody born like 1976 at the earliest to 1985 at the latest. Somebody born in about 1978 is just about the ultimate '90s teen, IMO.
Child of the '90s: Somebody born about 1984 at the earliest to 1993 at the latest. I think somebody born around 1988 is the absolute '90s child. Though I think if you were into Spongebob Squarepants, you're sort of an '00s kid.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/07/06 at 9:55 pm

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Roadgeek on 06/07/06 at 9:58 pm

Since I'm an '89er, I must be 99.9% '90s child. IMO, I'm 100% except I'm into '00s technology.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/07/06 at 10:01 pm

Someone born in 1993 would be on 7 by the time 2000 rolled around - hardly enough to be a true 'child of the 90s.' A real child of the 90s was born between about 1984 and 1990.

Yeah, the people who spent the majority of their childhood in the '90s were born like 1986-1990, IMO, roughly the boundaries of peak Y. I consider myself to really have spent all of my childhood in the '90s and have become sort of a "young teen" around 9/11.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Roadgeek on 06/07/06 at 10:09 pm

Yeah, the people who spent the majority of their childhood in the '90s were born like 1986-1990, IMO, roughly the boundaries of peak Y. I consider myself to really have spent all of my childhood in the '90s and have become sort of a "young teen" around 9/11.

Same with me. I started middle school (Pendle Hill) in August of 2001 about only 2 weeks before 9/11. I've always considered 6th grade to be the bridge between my late '90s and my '00s.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/07/06 at 10:12 pm

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/07/06 at 10:18 pm

Yeah, the people who spent the majority of their childhood in the '90s were born like 1986-1990, IMO, roughly the boundaries of peak Y. I consider myself to really have spent all of my childhood in the '90s and have become sort of a "young teen" around 9/11.

I'd consider 'childhood' to be between the ages of about 4-12. If that's the case, I spent ALL of these years in the 90s - I was 4 in 1990 and 12 in 1998. Whereas you were 4 in 1994 and 12 in 2002, hence you only began your childhood in the mid 90s!

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/07/06 at 10:19 pm

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Roadgeek on 06/07/06 at 10:23 pm

Yeah, there's a difference between the '75ers and '76ers, and I think there's also another one between the '72ers and '73ers. The '72ers still seem pretty wrapped up in that classic Reaganite, brat pack culture, albeit in a latter way, whereas somebody graduating high school in 1991 on's teen years didn't touch all that much on the "classic '80s" of 1983-1986 or so. Like they're sort of cynical '80s people, that Heathers generation, or the "Berlin Wall" generation. The '76ers are the first people to have been in 10th grade in a true '90s year, 1991-1992.

I consider myself a child of the mid-late '90s, with influences from the early '90s, because of all the stuff like The Little Mermaid from then that was a big factor in my childhood. By the time 9/11 rolled around, my childhood was ending.

You're like me. I'm a child of the mid-'90s, but with influences from the early '90s. I remember avidly watching shows like Family Double Dare and Nick Arcade in the mid-'90s. As for the late-'90s, I'm not much of a fan of that part of the '90s. I like 1992-1997.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/07/06 at 10:24 pm

Yeah, there's a difference between the '75ers and '76ers, and I think there's also another one between the '72ers and '73ers. The '72ers still seem pretty wrapped up in that classic Reaganite, brat pack culture, albeit in a latter way, whereas somebody graduating high school in 1991 on's teen years didn't touch all that much on the "classic '80s" of 1983-1986 or so. Like they're sort of cynical '80s people, that Heathers generation, or the "Berlin Wall" generation. The '76ers are the first people to have been in 10th grade in a true '90s year, 1991-1992.

I consider myself a child of the mid-late '90s, with influences from the early '90s, because of all the stuff like The Little Mermaid from then that was a big factor in my childhood. By the time 9/11 rolled around, my childhood was ending.

I think that somebody born around 1988 is the most absolute '90s child, since they were a kid for all of the '90s, from 1992 to 2000. Whereas somebody born in 1986 was a young teen in 1999.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/07/06 at 10:27 pm

Yeah, there's a difference between the '75ers and '76ers, and I think there's also another one between the '72ers and '73ers. The '72ers still seem pretty wrapped up in that classic Reaganite, brat pack culture, albeit in a latter way, whereas somebody graduating high school in 1991 on's teen years didn't touch all that much on the "classic '80s" of 1983-1986 or so. Like they're sort of cynical '80s people, that Heathers generation, or the "Berlin Wall" generation. The '76ers are the first people to have been in 10th grade in a true '90s year, 1991-1992.

I consider myself a child of the mid-late '90s, with influences from the early '90s, because of all the stuff like The Little Mermaid from then that was a big factor in my childhood. By the time 9/11 rolled around, my childhood was ending.

True. I think '73ers tend to be the first clear cased "90s accepting" people, even if they still dig the '80s more.

Would you say the "main" era of one's childhood ends at 10 or 11? That's sort of the tail beginning of a teenage mindset (some kids even start adolescence at that age too). I think 1992 was the last full year I really felt like a "kid" all the way ('93 and '94 were cuspy though). Even as it was going on, I vividly recall thinking Grunge was the beginning of the end of my childhood.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/07/06 at 10:31 pm

True. I think '73ers tend to be the first clear cased "90s accepting" people, even if they still dig the '80s more.

Would you say the "main" era of one's childhood ends at 10 or 11? That's sort of the tail beginning of a teenage mindset (some kids even start adolescence at that age too). I think 1992 was the last full year I really felt like a "kid" all the way ('93 and '94 were cuspy though). Even as it was going on, I vividly recall thinking Grunge was the beginning of the end of my childhood.

I thought 9/11 in 2001, quite vividly, was the end of my childhood. I agree that your childhood seems to end when you're in 5th grade. To me, that felt like the last year that I was definitely in some ways a kid, being prepubescent and all, though in some ways I felt even a little bit "older" by early 2001.

I think there's sort of a paradox with Xers, because there was always a minority of hip, twentysomething '90s people who loved the '80s back in the '80s and then moved on from it. I think college campuses in the late '80s were full of a very anti-Reaganite mood that was heavily for the college rock/alt rock culture that was still underground then, and so alot of brat packers became neo-hippies or '90s hipsters. I think Gen X always had those slackerish/big business-hating/alienated tendencies, present both in the brat pack and grunger incarnations, and some people were both at one point. The 1973ers do seem like the first year where a majority of them at least liked the '90s in one way.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Roadgeek on 06/07/06 at 10:38 pm

Alright, I have something I feel I need to let out in the open. Ho boy. I didn't quit playing with some toys until I was about 13. I was 13 when I became a Roadgeek which was I think September of 2003. That's when I realized I needed to quit. Basically, becoming a Roadgeek bumped my maturity up several notches.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/07/06 at 10:40 pm

I thought 9/11 in 2001, quite vividly, was the end of my childhood. I agree that your childhood seems to end when you're in 5th grade. To me, that felt like the last year that I was definitely in some ways a kid, being prepubescent and all, though in some ways I felt even a little bit "older" by early 2001.

I think there's sort of a paradox with Xers, because there was always a minority of hip, twentysomething '90s people who loved the '80s back in the '80s and then moved on from it. I think college campuses in the late '80s were full of a very anti-Reaganite mood that was heavily for the college rock/alt rock culture that was still underground then, and so alot of brat packers became neo-hippies or '90s hipsters. I think Gen X always had those slackerish/big business-hating/alienated tendencies, present both in the brat pack and grunger incarnations, and some people were both at one point. The 1973ers do seem like the first year where a majority of them at least liked the '90s in one way.

Do you think those who were in high school or college in the late '80s are more "political" than, let's say the average 1966er who graduated in '84 or so? The '90s "anything goes/Liberal" mindset almost seemed to be a throwback to the late '60s in some way.

The '80s are often noted as being a decade where "kids" didn't care about politics and it was kinda filled with greed and yuppie-ism, glitz and materialistic stuff. Perhaps the average 1969er or 1971er etc, who became the elder "90s" people (Kurt Cobain might fit the bill too) were this way because of the slightly more political atmosphere of the 1988ish era, which led to the '90s.

Thus college rock, etc. appealed to them more than Duran Duran.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/07/06 at 10:45 pm

Do you think those who were in high school or college in the late '80s are more "political" than, let's say the average 1966er who graduated in '84 or so? The '90s "anything goes/Liberal" mindset almost seemed to be a throwback to the late '60s in some way.

The '80s are often noted as being a decade where "kids" didn't care about politics and it was kinda filled with greed and yuppie-ism, glitz and materialistic stuff. Perhaps the average 1969er or 1971er etc, who became the elder "90s" people (Kurt Cobain might fit the bill too) were this way because of the slightly more political atmosphere of the 1988ish era, which led to the '90s.

Thus college rock, etc. appealed to them more than Duran Duran.

Yeah, I think the whole Do the Right Thing atmosphere of the late '80s that was growing among youth changed them alot. I think the attitude of the intellectual/"artsy" scene of the late '80s was quite close to the '90s, even if society as a whole wasn't.

What you do when you're in college definitely affects you alot. Like the mid-late '70s colleges, with everyone in business school and going to the disco and buying expensive stereo sets, were breeding grounds for boomer yuppies. A yuppie born in say 1958 was more created in college in the late '70s than high school in the mid-'70s. I think the people who became "older '90s hipsters" started out being new wavers who liked the more cynical or "artsy" stuff like the Smiths, Joy Division, Squeeze, etc. that didn't reach the charts, and then grew into other stuff in the late '80s.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: bbigd04 on 06/07/06 at 11:20 pm

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Tanya1976 on 06/07/06 at 11:25 pm

I'm a "child of the Grunge '90s". ;)

I feel probably the most attached to 1991 when I was 9 and 10. Old enough to be very aware of stuff and very into it with detail (i.e. Super Nintendo, VH1), but young enough to still be into like in a "kid" sense.

I would say there's a slight split between a '75er and a '76er. That whole era is both '80s and '90s in a teen sense, but the '75ers seem slightly more old school, whereas you're more likely to have a '76er who was totally into grunge (I have a buddy who is a '76er and that's what he says - he kinda abandoned his childhood "80s" stuff for Soundgarden and Pearl Jam circa 1993).

Anyway:

Teen of the '90s: 1976-84
Child of the '90s: 1984-92

(Again, although people like me could lay claim to a child of the first half of the '90s. Actually, I'm sort of both in the '90s as I went from 8 to 18).

You are off the mark completely. There's no difference between a person born in 1975 and one born in 1976 except the birth year. They were both teens in the early 90s. Both years were into grunge at the time. Don't base extreme generalizations on one person. No real difference at all.

Yeah, there's a difference between the '75ers and '76ers, and I think there's also another one between the '72ers and '73ers. The '72ers still seem pretty wrapped up in that classic Reaganite, brat pack culture, albeit in a latter way, whereas somebody graduating high school in 1991 on's teen years didn't touch all that much on the "classic '80s" of 1983-1986 or so. Like they're sort of cynical '80s people, that Heathers generation, or the "Berlin Wall" generation. The '76ers are the first people to have been in 10th grade in a true '90s year, 1991-1992.

I consider myself a child of the mid-late '90s, with influences from the early '90s, because of all the stuff like The Little Mermaid from then that was a big factor in my childhood. By the time 9/11 rolled around, my childhood was ending.

Where are you getting your research? Did you poll everybody born in both 1975 and 1976? These are incredibly vast and unsubstantiated generalizations of those both born the year before me and in my birth year. I attended high school in the first true 90s year 1990-1991. That's the beginning of the 90s. There's no "Berlin Wall" generation. It came down in 1989. Those around at the time witnessed it or knew of it. There's no real difference between anybody born within a year of each other, except the year of course.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Roadgeek on 06/07/06 at 11:26 pm

I was a child in the '90s and a teen in the '00s. However, I'm still and will remain a child of the '90s. ;D

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/07/06 at 11:36 pm

You are off the mark completely. There's no difference between a person born in 1975 and one born in 1976 except the birth year. They were both teens in the early 90s. Both years were into grunge at the time. Don't base extreme generalizations on one person. No real difference at all.

Oh I didn't mean it scientifically or anything. :) There's people born in 1985 who like '80s music more than some people born in 1977, lol. I know it's all subjective (I'm the person who always says everyone is different, etc).

I just meant from everyone I've observed or talked to, around 1976 born people are the first to be more likely to have abandoned the '80s when they were 15 or so for the grunge scene. Although yeah, it's not like a December 1975er is going to be calling a January 1976er some "whippersnapper". ;D

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: bbigd04 on 06/07/06 at 11:39 pm

Oh I didn't mean it scientifically or anything. :) There's people born in 1985 who like '80s music more than some people born in 1977, lol. I know it's all subjective (I'm the person who always says everyone is different, etc).

I just meant from everyone I've observed or talked to, around 1976 born people are the first to be more likely to have abandoned the '80s when they were 15 or so for the grunge scene. Although yeah, it's not like a December 1975er is going to be calling a January 1976er some "whippersnapper". ;D

Yeah that's the problem with generalizing by birth year, I mean you can have somebody born on December 31, 1975 and January 1, 1976. Those people are the same age and there is no difference at all between them. You always have to say "around" so that people that are close to a birth year range.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Tanya1976 on 06/07/06 at 11:41 pm

Oh I didn't mean it scientifically or anything. :) There's people born in 1985 who like '80s music more than some people born in 1977, lol. I know it's all subjective (I'm the person who always says everyone is different, etc).

I just meant from everyone I've observed or talked to, around 1976 born people are the first to be more likely to have abandoned the '80s when they were 15 or so for the grunge scene. Although yeah, it's not like a December 1975er is going to be calling a January 1976er some "whippersnapper". ;D

I don't see it as abandoning. Rather, it was changing to another scene, which happens in each decade when other options arrive. Let's face it you aren't into the same things today as you were in 1999. It was a different scene.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: nicki_morrissey on 06/07/06 at 11:47 pm

IMO:

Teen of the '90s (or colloquial "child of the '90s"): Somebody born like 1976 at the earliest to 1985 at the latest. Somebody born in about 1978 is just about the ultimate '90s teen, IMO.
Child of the '90s: Somebody born about 1984 at the earliest to 1993 at the latest. I think somebody born around 1988 is the absolute '90s child. Though I think if you were into Spongebob Squarepants, you're sort of an '00s kid.

Why thank you! I myself was born in 1988. I'm glad to know that I was a Child of the 90s :)

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/07/06 at 11:48 pm

I don't see it as abandoning. Rather, it was changing to another scene, which happens in each decade when other options arrive. Let's face it you aren't into the same things today as you were in 1999. It was a different scene.

I was just as much of an old school dork in '99 as I am now. ;D

Seriously though, I think sometimes certain people are more prone to liking new things if the crowd does. Even though I'm younger, I do think people my age are slightly more into the '80s than, say a mid-late '70s person, because circa 1992 I was still a kid. I never had to "give the '80s up" to be cool, whereas a 14 or 15 year old in 1992 may have.

10 year old at the time: Oh, cool a new Van Halen video! I like a few of their older songs too.
14 year old: Geez man, I dug them as a kid, but that's lame now

Then again, everyone is different. I mean, there were people in their 20s who liked the '60s, and they didn't necesarilly give up the '50s. My dad was a '50s teen who ended up more into the Beatles, etc. later on.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Tanya1976 on 06/07/06 at 11:54 pm

I was just as much of an old school dork in '99 as I am now. ;D

Seriously though, I think sometimes certain people are more prone to liking new things if the crowd does. Even though I'm younger, I do think people my age are slightly more into the '80s than, say a mid-late '70s person, because circa 1992 I was still a kid. I never had to "give the '80s up" to be cool, whereas a 14 or 15 year old in 1992 may have.

10 year old at the time: Oh, cool a new Van Halen video! I like a few of their older songs too.
14 year old: Geez man, I dug them as a kid, but that's lame now

Then again, everyone is different. I mean, there were people in their 20s who liked the '60s, and they didn't necesarilly give up the '50s. My dad was a '50s teen who ended up more into the Beatles, etc. later on.

I think that's all in the whelm of "I wish I could've been there" fantasizing which is normal when you are thinking of a decade for which you didn't participate in. There is definitely no harm in that. It's almost expect b/c they didn't live it so they romanticize it without having to have lived through most of the non-pop culture aspects.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: bbigd04 on 06/07/06 at 11:58 pm

I was just as much of an old school dork in '99 as I am now. ;D

Seriously though, I think sometimes certain people are more prone to liking new things if the crowd does. Even though I'm younger, I do think people my age are slightly more into the '80s than, say a mid-late '70s person, because circa 1992 I was still a kid. I never had to "give the '80s up" to be cool, whereas a 14 or 15 year old in 1992 may have.

10 year old at the time: Oh, cool a new Van Halen video! I like a few of their older songs too.
14 year old: Geez man, I dug them as a kid, but that's lame now

Then again, everyone is different. I mean, there were people in their 20s who liked the '60s, and they didn't necesarilly give up the '50s. My dad was a '50s teen who ended up more into the Beatles, etc. later on.

You have to remember many many people enjoy the current era that are in their early-mid 20s, your "era" isn't just when you're like 13-17 or whatever, it really can extend to 25 or even 30. Heck even people in their 30s are very much into current things. I mean Marty you were only 18/19 in 2000, the 2000s are really part of people around you age's era as well as the '90s if you think about it.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/08/06 at 12:07 am

I think that's all in the whelm of "I wish I could've been there" fantasizing which is normal when you are thinking of a decade for which you didn't participate in. There is definitely no harm in that. It's almost expect b/c they didn't live it so they romanticize it without having to have lived through most of the non-pop culture aspects.

I definitely have done the "wishing" with the '50s through the '70s sometimes. I might even say the reason I like the earlier '80s a little more is because they're more "mystical" to me, whereas I remember 1989 perfectly (as a 7 and 8 year old boy, but I still remember it ;) ) so that mystery isn't there as much.

I will say one thing is a little ironic though. As much as I paid attention to this sort of thing and all, it wasn't until a few years back that I realized it wasn't entirely "typical" or normal to like older things sometimes.

This one example really sticks out in my mind. When I was 15 and into 16, I had a part time after school job, doing assistant janitorial stuff at this independently owned kinda "comic book/trading card/video arcade" combo place. I mopped floors and stuff for maybe an hour after school (it was a pretty big place!). Anyway, this one day I was listening to some a mostly '80s music mix tape of mine on the store's boombox (my boss was then in his late 20s, so we liked alot of the same stuff), and some kids came in totally making fun of this Lionel Richie song, I think. Good naturedly, but still - saying something like "Dang, what year did I just step into? This is stuff my parents would like?" etc.

I was really embarrased because it was MY music, which I admitted, lol. But it wasn't until after that happened that I realized it wasn't really typical for someone, especially a 15 year old to be so openly listening to 1984 music in 1997 or something. ;D

I guess that's when I started really nostalgizing since I realized it was certainly not "cool" among the masses anymore.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Tanya1976 on 06/08/06 at 1:28 am

I definitely have done the "wishing" with the '50s through the '70s sometimes. I might even say the reason I like the earlier '80s a little more is because they're more "mystical" to me, whereas I remember 1989 perfectly (as a 7 and 8 year old boy, but I still remember it ;) ) so that mystery isn't there as much.

I will say one thing is a little ironic though. As much as I paid attention to this sort of thing and all, it wasn't until a few years back that I realized it wasn't entirely "typical" or normal to like older things sometimes.

This one example really sticks out in my mind. When I was 15 and into 16, I had a part time after school job, doing assistant janitorial stuff at this independently owned kinda "comic book/trading card/video arcade" combo place. I mopped floors and stuff for maybe an hour after school (it was a pretty big place!). Anyway, this one day I was listening to some a mostly '80s music mix tape of mine on the store's boombox (my boss was then in his late 20s, so we liked alot of the same stuff), and some kids came in totally making fun of this Lionel Richie song, I think. Good naturedly, but still - saying something like "Dang, what year did I just step into? This is stuff my parents would like?" etc.

I was really embarrased because it was MY music, which I admitted, lol. But it wasn't until after that happened that I realized it wasn't really typical for someone, especially a 15 year old to be so openly listening to 1984 music in 1997 or something. ;D

I guess that's when I started really nostalgizing since I realized it was certainly not "cool" among the masses anymore.

Interesting, I must say.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Ize_that_Devise on 06/08/06 at 3:15 am

Hiya, everyone1, I'm new to the boards! I was born in 1984, so I guess you could put me under the umbrella of a '90s child'. What things do you think typlify a 90s child? Like a remember troll dolls, polly pocket, Teen age mutant ninja turtles, Furbies (Ok, I was a bit of a tomboy, but it's made me the hard-drinkin' rocker girl I am ;)), 'old-skool' Nick.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/08/06 at 12:21 pm

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 06/08/06 at 1:06 pm

A lot of people have their teen years/childhood years divided between different decades so it's hard to come up with a true answer. 1984-1990 is a pretty good definition of a "'90s child", generally they spent most of their memorable childhood years in the '90s. For '90s teen I'll say those who were 16 in 1990 through those who were 16 in 1999, so basically 1974-1983 would be a good definition.

Yeah, I think 1984-1990 is a good definition of a '90s child, even though it could certianly extend up to '91 or '92.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Ebontyne on 06/08/06 at 2:23 pm

I'm both. I was a child of the late '80s and early '90s, and a teen of the late '90s (having turned 13 in 1996).

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Roadgeek on 06/08/06 at 2:56 pm

Let's see:

I was about 1 month old on Jaunary 1, 1990
I was 10 years old on December 31, 1999

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/08/06 at 6:23 pm

Let's see:

I was about 1 month old on Jaunary 1, 1990
I was 10 years old on December 31, 1999

I was three months to being born on Jan. 1, 1990, and I was almost 10 on December 31, 1999.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: D.J. on 06/08/06 at 6:32 pm

I was born in 1988 so I remember most of the 90s.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: woops on 06/08/06 at 11:59 pm

'90's child/teen, though was sedated most of the decade ::) :P

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: deadrockstar on 06/09/06 at 11:21 am

I had an argument with my uncle about this.

I insisted I was a child of the 90s, and he says I'm a child of the 2000s. He said you're the "child of" what ever time period you come of age in. So for him, since he was born in 1951 hes a child of the 60s.

To me though child of means when you were a kid. I'm a child of the 90s, and a TEENAGER of the 00s but he just doesn't see it this way. I was born in 1988.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: JDeeOfV on 06/09/06 at 12:32 pm

well generally when i refer to someone being a "kid of" whatever era, i think of people who had really mostly "grown up" with memories truly relatable to the time period, so i generally don't consider the pre-preteen years(ie up kindergarten age/1st grade) because even at that point lots of people's memories are really quite personal and not so much in relation to what is generally going on outside their cartoons and toys and family.

So when i think of decades, i like to use the "10 peak years" which IMO would lay somwhere in the 8(maybe 7) to 17/18 years. I make a distinction between someone who is a "kid/child of" and someone who was a "kid/child in". So IMO the model is

a 76/77er would be on the front end of the 90s kids,
and 86ers would be on the back end. 85ers or 84ers would probably be my last ones "firmly"
I guess i'd consider 83-85 to have a 90's base with some 00's influence
and 87-88 as 00's base with 90's influences,
86ers right on the fence.

87ers have some definite 90's influences, but when i think these guys only hit their teen years in the 00s, and were still in high school in 05, theyre clearly slanted towards being an 00's kid. But this is my view based on not splitting up the "childhood" and teen years.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/09/06 at 2:50 pm

I think a "kid" is when you're 4-11 or so. So the ultimate '90s kids would be born in 1987 or 1988. My range would then be 1994-2001.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Classie83 on 06/09/06 at 11:41 pm

A lot of people have their teen years/childhood years divided between different decades so it's hard to come up with a true answer. 1984-1990 is a pretty good definition of a "'90s child", generally they spent most of their memorable childhood years in the '90s. For '90s teen I'll say those who were 16 in 1990 through those who were 16 in 1999, so basically 1974-1983 would be a good definition.

I agree. I was born in 83 and I am definitely an 80s child, but I am also an early 90's child. By the mid 90s (95-97) I was out of my childhood and into my teens. By 2001 (18) i was no longer interested in the mainstream pop culture, especially the suckass music....So, I'd say that I was still a 90's child as well....just a bit older.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Classie83 on 06/09/06 at 11:56 pm

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Roadgeek on 06/10/06 at 12:00 am

I think the '90s child rule can be extended to about 1989 or 1990 because I'm an 89er and I'm an ultimate '90s child as well as other people my age I've talked to before.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/10/06 at 12:58 am

I think the '90s child rule can be extended to about 1989 or 1990 because I'm an 89er and I'm an ultimate '90s child as well as other people my age I've talked to before.

I'm an 86er, and that makes me an even MORE ultimate 90s child. :D

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Tanya1976 on 06/10/06 at 1:14 am

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/10/06 at 1:20 am

Dude, I was 14 in 1990. How am I on the front end of the 90s kids? I was in high school. I graduated in 1994. My childhood was only in the 80s. By the end of the 90s, I was a college graduate, attending graduate school, and a mother. How does that make me a 90s kid?

It doesn't at all.

Don't worry what they say. They claim they 'remember' the early 90s (despite the fact they were born in 1990), when they are probably hard pressed to remember Princess Di's death in 1997. You'd really have to have been no older than 8 in 1990 (born in 1982) to be a '90s kid' by any stretch of the imagination.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Tanya1976 on 06/10/06 at 1:36 am

Don't worry what they say. They claim they 'remember' the early 90s (despite the fact they were born in 1990), when they are probably hard pressed to remember Princess Di's death in 1997. You'd really have to have been no older than 8 in 1990 (born in 1982) to be a '90s kid' by any stretch of the imagination.

hahaha most definitely! My youngest brother was born in 1983. He would surely remember more of the 90s than beforehand.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/10/06 at 8:11 am

Don't worry what they say. They claim they 'remember' the early 90s (despite the fact they were born in 1990), when they are probably hard pressed to remember Princess Di's death in 1997. You'd really have to have been no older than 8 in 1990 (born in 1982) to be a '90s kid' by any stretch of the imagination.

Was that intended to be a jibe at me? I don't claim to remember the early '90s.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/10/06 at 8:21 am

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/10/06 at 10:47 am

Was that intended to be a jibe at me? I don't claim to remember the early '90s.

Oh, I didn't think you'd be around the boards much... ;)

No, course not, I was just illustrating a point that we often talk about an era as if we knew it better than people who were actually around and aware of what was going on.etc. Not meant to be a personal jibe at all.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Classie83 on 06/10/06 at 12:05 pm

Dude, I was 14 in 1990. How am I on the front end of the 90s kids? I was in high school. I graduated in 1994. My childhood was only in the mid-1970s-80s. By the end of the 90s, I was a college graduate, attending graduate school, and a mother. How does that make me a 90s kid?

It doesn't at all.

LOL!

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Tanya1976 on 06/10/06 at 12:39 pm

LOL!

Hahaha can you say a bit miffed? lol

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: deadrockstar on 06/10/06 at 6:38 pm

I think a good way of classifying this is if you spent the majority of your 4-11 years in the '90s. So therefore:

1981-2/7 '90s child.
1982-3/7 '90s child.
1983-4/7 '90s child
1984-5/7 '90s child
1985-6/7 '90s child
1986-100% '90s child.
1987-100% '90s child.
1988-100% '90s child.
1989 and 1990-roughly 6/7 '90s child.
1991-5/7 '90s child.
1992-4/7 '90s child.
1993-3/7 '90s child.
1994-2/7 '90s child.
1995-1/7 child.
1996-Not a '90s child.

Therefore, I think the whole range is like 1984-1991. That's the "'90s kids."

See, this is flawed.

I have a younger cousin who was born in August of 1992, and hes definitely a 90s kid. The culture of the 90s carried over into 2000 and 2001 imo, so he spent most of his childhood in the 90s era. Plus he had an older brother who was born in 88.. I guess if he didn't maybe he'd be a bit less acclimated toward the 90s kid culture.

Its like me, I turned 11 in 1999. That was the year I started puberty and first started really getting into pop culture on my own. However my older brother was born in 77, so due mainly to his influence I have personal memories of the culture of the mid 90s, but its a vicarious experience kinda.

I'm sure this is true of a lot of people with older siblings.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/10/06 at 8:59 pm

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Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: bbigd04 on 06/10/06 at 9:17 pm

Yeah, I sort of agree that 2000 and 2001 were culturally '90s. Though, in a way, for kids they weren't...Spongebob Squarepants was dominating the Nickelodeon airwaves and there weren't that many good non-computer animated animation flicks out there. I think the "'90s kid" thing really ended sometime in 1999 or 2000. To me, the real "'90s kid" thing is mostly 1984-1991 in a pure way. 1992 is split, because they would've spent half of the 4 to 11 period in the '90s and half in the '00s.

2001 pretty much felt like the '00s, though some '90 ish things were still around. I think the pure '90s kid is born about 1984-1990, 1991 and 1992 are more split between the '90s and the '00s.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: deadrockstar on 06/10/06 at 10:18 pm

I disagree.^

I think 2002 was the first year that was culturally the 2000s. It started to feel like the 00s in the second half of the year, and really, it was after 9/11. The last four months is when it really started to feel like the 2000s. That was my experience anyway.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/11/06 at 10:16 am

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Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/11/06 at 10:19 am

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/11/06 at 10:19 am

I don't agree with the 00s not 'feeling' like the 00s until '02. I felt the 00s vibe from at least 99 or 2000. ;)

Eh, let's not beat a dead horse and agree to disagree.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/11/06 at 10:21 am

Eh, let's not beat a dead horse and agree to disagree.

Oh, but I was all ready to get the gloves off... :\'(

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/11/06 at 10:23 am

Oh, but I was all ready to get the gloves off... :\'(

I'm going to say technologically yes, it was more '00s (not completely), but there was still that "'90s way of thought and feeling" around, like not everything being so glossy and overenergized, and such.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/11/06 at 10:28 am

I'm going to say technologically yes, it was more '00s (not completely), but there was still that "'90s way of thought and feeling" around, like not everything being so glossy and overenergized, and such.

If you ask me, technology is the main component of 00s culture, the added ingredient which makes the period 'feel' like the 00s. The biggest tech-changes (DVD, Computing , PC/Broadband, Cellphones) occured in the period 1997-2000, so I think this period saw the biggest change in terms of the 'feel' of the time.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/11/06 at 10:32 am

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/11/06 at 10:36 am

I think the technology is arguably the basis of it, but culture hadn't really fully reacted to it until maybe 2002.

Not saying your P.O.V. is less valid or accurate than mine, but for someone entering their mid-teens at the start of the millenia, I felt the major change about 1999. The transition/cusp period probably lasted from March 1998 to September 11.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/11/06 at 10:37 am

Not saying your P.O.V. is less valid or accurate than mine, but for someone entering their mid-teens at the start of the millenia, I felt the major change about 1999. The transition/cusp period probably lasted from March 1998 to September 11.

I also remember when I was in the UK in 2002, it was like a step into the future, honestly. It felt more '00s than '90s, but at home it still felt sort of '90s.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/11/06 at 10:41 am

I also remember when I was in the UK in 2002, it was like a step into the future, honestly. It felt more '00s than '90s, but at home it still felt sort of '90s.

I think the truth of the matter is that, the period in which a person has a major transition in their lives feels like 'a different era' regardless of what is actually happening. That's why you and Donnie related more with 2001-2002 as a change date, and me and others born around my end of Gen y felt 1999 was the bigger change. Do you agree?

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/11/06 at 10:47 am

I think the truth of the matter is that, the period in which a person has a major transition in their lives feels like 'a different era' regardless of what is actually happening. That's why you and Donnie related more with 2001-2002 as a change date, and me and others born around my end of Gen y felt 1999 was the bigger change. Do you agree?

Maybe. Though I think we're really on the same end of Gen Y, the middle, albeit at different ends of the middle.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/11/06 at 10:50 am

Maybe. Though I think we're really on the same end of Gen Y, the middle, albeit at different ends of the middle.

Yeah, I'm come to realise I do identify more with those born in 1986-1990 and those born in 1982-1986 (well I have alot of cousins that age, friends of sisters.etc). I think I feel more in common with someone born in 1988 than someone born in 1984 or even 1985. 1985 seems like another era altogether.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/11/06 at 10:51 am

Yeah, I'm come to realise I do identify more with those born in 1986-1990 and those born in 1982-1986 (well I have alot of cousins that age, friends of sisters.etc). I think I feel more in common with someone born in 1988 than someone born in 1984 or even 1985. 1985 seems like another era altogether.

Yeah, most of my friends are born late 1985-mid 1990...I feel different from those born in 1990-1991, even.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/11/06 at 10:52 am

Yeah, most of my friends are born late 1985-mid 1990...I feel different from those born in 1990-1991, even.

That's funny, I have very few friends outside my year group of 1986. I guess that's why you seem more 'mature' than most 15/16-yos I know. Are you an only child, btw?

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/11/06 at 10:56 am

That's funny, I have very few friends outside my year group of 1986. I guess that's why you seem more 'mature' than most 15/16-yos I know. Are you an only child, btw?

Yep.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/11/06 at 10:58 am

Yep.

Ahh, I thought so. ;)

Btw, on a different topic, have you seen Donnie lately? Haven't seen him for at least 3-4 days...

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: bbigd04 on 06/11/06 at 1:05 pm

If you ask me, technology is the main component of 00s culture, the added ingredient which makes the period 'feel' like the 00s. The biggest tech-changes (DVD, Computing , PC/Broadband, Cellphones) occured in the period 1997-2000, so I think this period saw the biggest change in terms of the 'feel' of the time.

Technology was a big part of the '90s too. I think '00s technology is overrated anyway. It's not so much the technology which makes 2001 '00s, I'm going to say it is a combination of music, movies, and television. Technology could be something to look at too, but it always changes, there's nothing special about '00s technology it's going to suck by the 2010s, just like '90s technology sucks now. I said for a little bit that 2001 was kind of '90s, but I've really changed my mind on that when I really thought about it and compared 2001 to like 1998, there just is no comparison.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: bbigd04 on 06/11/06 at 1:21 pm

I don't agree with the 00s not 'feeling' like the 00s until '02. I felt the 00s vibe from at least 99 or 2000. ;)

At first I disagreed with you about it but the more I thought about it I'm starting to agree with you. It definitely felt '00s in 2001, I remember it well and it was the 2000s, there were some '90s things around (like some of the bubblegum pop that was left it was clearly declining rapidly in 2001 though) but when you look at the whole picture it was '00s.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/11/06 at 1:36 pm

At first I disagreed with you about it but the more I thought about it I'm starting to agree with you. It definitely felt '00s in 2001, I remember it well and it was the 2000s, there were some '90s things around (like some of the bubblegum pop that was left it was clearly declining rapidly in 2001 though) but when you look at the whole picture it was '00s.

I think 2001 was basically '00s in television, music, etc., but there was still stuff like nu metal sticking around that had been there since like 1998, and there was more of that angry/grunge-y/un primped-up/non-preppy '90s way of being around.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: bbigd04 on 06/11/06 at 4:15 pm

I think 2001 was basically '00s in television, music, etc., but there was still stuff like nu metal sticking around that had been there since like 1998, and there was more of that angry/grunge-y/un primped-up/non-preppy '90s way of being around.

The preppy stuff got going in 1999, though it didn't reach today's level until like 2003 probably. Were there some '90s things left? Yes, but as a whole 2001 felt quite '00s. Nu metal is kind of an '00s thing too, since it was quite popular until 2003, it's very late '90s/early '00s. I wouldn't say it's a totally '90s thing.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: bbigd04 on 06/11/06 at 4:25 pm

Yeah, I'm come to realise I do identify more with those born in 1986-1990 and those born in 1982-1986 (well I have alot of cousins that age, friends of sisters.etc). I think I feel more in common with someone born in 1988 than someone born in 1984 or even 1985. 1985 seems like another era altogether.

They're a year older and feel like a different era, c'mon. I consider everybody within about 3 years of me right around my age.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/11/06 at 4:27 pm

The preppy stuff got going in 1999, though it didn't reach today's level until like 2003 probably. Were there some '90s things left? Yes, but as a whole 2001 felt quite '00s. Nu metal is kind of an '00s thing too, since it was quite popular until 2003, it's very late '90s/early '00s. I wouldn't say it's a totally '90s thing.

I think it was more two different eras of preppie. One was that blonde-spiked hair one, then there's the O.C./multicolored IZOD polo preppie. When do you think it will go out? Nu metal really started its explosion in fall 1998 with Korn's Follow the Leader...do you agree it sort of became popular "overnight"?

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: bbigd04 on 06/11/06 at 4:36 pm

I think it was more two different eras of preppie. One was that blonde-spiked hair one, then there's the O.C./multicolored IZOD polo preppie. When do you think it will go out? Nu metal really started its explosion in fall 1998 with Korn's Follow the Leader...do you agree it sort of became popular "overnight"?

I really think they're similiar though which is why I just lump them all together. The blonde hair was just a fad around 1999 that ended up dying out very quickly, I wouldn't say it was an "era" of preppie, it did not last long enough. I really can't say when it will go out, but maybe in a few years. Yeah nu metal became popular very fast, I remember korn and limp bizkit being real big when I was in like 6th and 7th grade. Nu metal really kind of died out around late 2003, though it is still out there just not as much as there used to be.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/11/06 at 4:43 pm

I really think they're similiar though which is why I just lump them all together. The blonde hair was just a fad around 1999 that ended up dying out very quickly, I wouldn't say it was an "era" of preppie, it did not last long enough. I really can't say when it will go out, but maybe in a few years. Yeah nu metal became popular very fast, I remember korn and limp bizkit being real big when I was in like 6th and 7th grade. Nu metal really kind of died out around late 2003, though it is still out there just not as much as there used to be.

It's still out there, I'd say, but it died as a "movement" then. The last stuff that was sort of vaguely nu metal to be really popular was Evanescence and all that...but I remember it still being pretty popular around the spring of 2003. And if you watch Six Feet Under from 2001, everyone is still all nu metaled-out. It was definitely an era in rock style.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: bbigd04 on 06/11/06 at 4:54 pm

It's still out there, I'd say, but it died as a "movement" then. The last stuff that was sort of vaguely nu metal to be really popular was Evanescence and all that...but I remember it still being pretty popular around the spring of 2003. And if you watch Six Feet Under from 2001, everyone is still all nu metaled-out. It was definitely an era in rock style.

As an era it probably died in 2002.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/11/06 at 5:11 pm

As an era it probably died in 2002.

I remember in 2002-2003, just when glam rap and the emo/indie style were coming out, the "top half of my school", grades 10-12, like the classes of '03-'05, were very into the nu metal style, as opposed to the lower half, the classes of '06-'08, were sort of "beyond it."

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/11/06 at 6:56 pm

They're a year older and feel like a different era, c'mon. I consider everybody within about 3 years of me right around my age.

1985/86 is sort of a dividing year between the core 'MTV Generation' and the generation sort of sandwiched between them and the Generation which grew up in the Digital Age. I don't know why this is so, but the difference between 84 and 85 and 85 and 86 seems to be much larger than say, 86/87 and 87/88.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/11/06 at 6:58 pm

1985/86 is sort of a dividing year between the core 'MTV Generation' and the generation sort of sandwiched between them and the Generation which grew up in the Digital Age. I don't know why this is so, but the difference between 84 and 85 and 85 and 86 seems to be much larger than say, 86/87 and 87/88.

There's a big difference between the class of '03 and the class of '04, people born from late 1985 to mid 1986. Part of that probably comes from the class of '03 being the last people to escape teen pop, and them being the last people to sort of have some claim to remembering the '80s. Also, they were the last people to "come of age" before 9/11.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/11/06 at 6:59 pm

I remember in 2002-2003, just when glam rap and the emo/indie style were coming out, the "top half of my school", grades 10-12, like the classes of '03-'05, were very into the nu metal style, as opposed to the lower half, the classes of '06-'08, were sort of "beyond it."

Yes, I believe my immediate contemparies were most hit by both Nu-metal and Korn-esque style heavy metal (which probably peaked about 2000, declining shortly after), as well as pop punk like Jimmy Eat World (their early stuff), NOFX, Blink 182.etc, and early, less glamier rap like Dr. Dre.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: bbigd04 on 06/11/06 at 7:01 pm

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/11/06 at 7:02 pm

There's a big difference between the class of '03 and the class of '04, people born from late 1985 to mid 1986. Part of that probably comes from the class of '03 being the last people to escape teen pop, and them being the last people to sort of have some claim to remembering the '80s. Also, they were the last people to "come of age" before 9/11.

Teen pop was hugely popular among people at my school in 1998, 1999 (its peak period probably being late 1998 to the turn of the century) a.k.a Aqua, Boy/Girl bands, but of course I think you mean that our year sort of 'escaped' teen pop because it had largely disappeared by the time we 'came of age' in 2002-2003. Though the Teen pop era did last until at least 2002.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/11/06 at 7:03 pm

Yes, I believe my immediate contemparies were most hit by both Nu-metal and Korn-esque style heavy metal (which probably peaked about 2000, declining shortly after), as well as pop punk like Jimmy Eat World (their early stuff), NOFX, Blink 182.etc, and early, less glamier rap like Dr. Dre.

I think we're sort of the mini-generation to have our high school years be in the peak '00s. I think of my absolute immediate contemporaries as being people born between late 1987 and mid 1990, the group of us who came of age around 2004-2006, the "mid-'00s."

I meant that the class of '03 (people born around 1985) in US terms was the last to escape teen pop.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: bbigd04 on 06/11/06 at 7:04 pm

Teen pop was hugely popular among people at my school in 1998, 1999 (its peak period probably being late 1998 to the turn of the century) a.k.a Aqua, Boy/Girl bands, but of course I think you mean that our year sort of 'escaped' teen pop because it had largely disappeared by the time we 'came of age' in 2002-2003. Though the Teen pop era did last until at least 2002.

Teen pop was most popular with pre-teens and young teens in general, not 16-18 year olds.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/11/06 at 7:06 pm

Teen pop was most popular with pre-teens and young teens in general, not 16-18 year olds.

No popular between 16-18 year olds? You obviously weren't at my school, then...

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: bbigd04 on 06/11/06 at 7:06 pm

I think we're sort of the mini-generation to have our high school years be in the peak '00s. I think of my absolute immediate contemporaries as being people born between late 1987 and mid 1990, the group of us who came of age around 2004-2006, the "mid-'00s."

I meant that the class of '03 (people born around 1985) in US terms was the last to escape teen pop.

They were still quite young around 1997-2001 (12-16), definitely still young enough to have been into teen pop. I think 83ers are probably the last to escape teen pop.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: bbigd04 on 06/11/06 at 7:09 pm

No popular between 16-18 year olds? You obviously weren't at my school, then...

I never saw that many older teens really into teen pop, most of the fans seemed to be younger kids.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/11/06 at 7:09 pm

Teen pop was most popular with pre-teens and young teens in general, not 16-18 year olds.

Yeah, the target age for teen pop was people who were about 9-13. Really, it was targeted at people who were like 11. I think the people "touched by teen pop" were born like 1984 at the earliest (for the Spice Girls and Hanson type stuff from 1997), for whom the youngest people were born in 1990, about my age, and 1992 at the latest (people who got into it around 2000.) The central group is 1986-1990, the parameters of peak Gen Y.

I think by the time people are having sex and doing drugs they're too old for teen pop.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/11/06 at 7:09 pm

They were still quite young around 1997-2001 (12-16), definitely still young enough to have been into teen pop. I think 83ers are probably the last to escape teen pop.

Yeah, an 85er or 86er hardly escaped teen pop - in fact, teen pop actually appealed to us most because we were 11, 12, 13, 14 when the movement hit its absolute peak about mid-1999 (summer of 1999 for you). In think in 1999 you were sort of divided by what music you liked; 'hardcore' bands included Nine Inch Nails, Slipknot, Rammstein, 'popular nu-metal/punk' was the Offspring, NOFX and the like, while the majority of people liked (but would not admitting) all that fluffy teen pop on the charts.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: bbigd04 on 06/11/06 at 7:11 pm

Yeah, the target age for teen pop was people who were about 9-13. Really, it was targeted at people who were like 11. I think the people "touched by teen pop" were born like 1984 at the earliest (for the Spice Girls and Hanson type stuff from 1997), for whom the youngest people were born in 1990, about my age, and 1992 at the latest (people who got into it around 2000.) The central group is 1986-1990, the parameters of peak Gen Y.

I think by the time people are having sex and doing drugs they're too old for teen pop.

Generally the whole teen pop age span is about 1984-1992.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/11/06 at 7:12 pm

Yeah, the target age for teen pop was people who were about 9-13. Really, it was targeted at people who were like 11. I think the people "touched by teen pop" were born like 1984 at the earliest (for the Spice Girls and Hanson type stuff from 1997), for whom the youngest people were born in 1990, about my age, and 1992 at the latest (people who got into it around 2000.) The central group is 1986-1990, the parameters of peak Gen Y.

I think by the time people are having sex and doing drugs they're too old for teen pop.

Really, it's a common mis-conception that pre-teens formed the majority of listeners of teen pop. I'd wager the average lister of a band like 'Westlife' to be well in their 20s. Even Mandy Moore and other teen pop princesses would have alot of older listeners.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: bbigd04 on 06/11/06 at 7:13 pm

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 06/11/06 at 7:14 pm

Yeah, an 85er or 86er hardly escaped teen pop - in fact, teen pop actually appealed to us most because we were 11, 12, 13, 14 when the movement hit its absolute peak about mid-1999 (summer of 1999 for you). In think in 1999 you were sort of divided by what music you liked; 'hardcore' bands included Nine Inch Nails, Slipknot, Rammstein, 'popular nu-metal/punk' was the Offspring, NOFX and the like, while the majority of people liked (but would not admitting) all that fluffy teen pop on the charts.

There's always sort of a "generally liked music" and then "genre music." Like in the late '90s, it was fluffy teen pop, and in the '00s, it's party-style glam rap and glam-rap influenced dance-pop like Rihanna. I think the big "crowds" then were the skaters, "hardcore" people who liked the aforementioned bands and nu metal, the sort of neo-hippie/neo-hipster crowd who liked stuff like Phish and Weezer, '90s preppies with the blonde-dyed hair and skimpy midriff shirts, etc.

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/11/06 at 7:16 pm

There's always sort of a "generally liked music" and then "genre music." Like in the late '90s, it was fluffy teen pop, and in the '00s, it's party-style glam rap and glam-rap influenced dance-pop like Rihanna. I think the big "crowds" then were the skaters, "hardcore" people who liked the aforementioned bands and nu metal, the sort of neo-hippie/neo-hipster crowd who liked stuff like Phish and Weezer, '90s preppies with the blonde-dyed hair and skimpy midriff shirts, etc.

Everybody sort of liked at least some of the teen pop. It was the people who actually paid to go see BSB and such in concert who were born like 1986-1990.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/11/06 at 7:21 pm

I sort of get the impression that tweens/young teens are a bit more open-minded about what music they will listen to than teens of my generation - I mean I do know many kids into Hendrix, AC/DC.etc. Indeed, I think these days' there is less of a division between 'teen pop' and popular music in general.

Btw, nice pic James! Great to finally see you! Do you wear glasses?

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/11/06 at 7:32 pm

Usually, I do.

So do I, usually. I tried out contacts for awhile, but taking them in and out was such a hassle. When I start working I'm planning to have laser eye-surgery to correct my annoying (genetic) short-sightedness...

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: deadrockstar on 06/11/06 at 10:11 pm

I agree about it not feeling like the '00s until 2002. But in terms of kids' culture, the '90s really was over by the second half of 1999, with Spongebob Squarepants and all, and the death of Nickelodeon and Disney movies. Which is why I think 1992 is the transition year, since they can both relate to Rocko's Modern Life and Spongebob Squarepants.

You have a point. I think that was actually part of why I left behind Nickelodeon a bit earlier than you'd think. I was only 11 when I abandoned Nick for the Mtv(although now I watch neither, I stopped watching Mtv completely in 2003). I didn't realise it at the time, but the line-up and shows *I* had grown up with were moving on and new stuff was coming in at that time, so the channel just lost my interest at a time when I was becoming an adolescent so I dropped it like a hot potato.

Gosh... its strange. My childhood has been over since I was 13, yet its taken me until the last few months for it to truely sink in.

There's a big difference between the class of '03 and the class of '04, people born from late 1985 to mid 1986. Part of that probably comes from the class of '03 being the last people to escape teen pop, and them being the last people to sort of have some claim to remembering the '80s. Also, they were the last people to "come of age" before 9/11.

This is very true.

I started high school in the 2002-2003 academic year, and I remember that the Seniors who were there my Freshman year seemed different from the class of '04 and my class('05). My older brother is MTV Generation/Gen X(born in '77) and they still kinda reminded me of my brother's generation, but the class right ahead of mine were more like us('05) than them('03).

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: deadrockstar on 06/11/06 at 10:19 pm

Now that I think about it the class of '03 was those born in '85/'86, which means they were only 4 or 5 when the 80s ended but that was just old enough to remember them a little bit, especially considering the 80s culture spilled over into 1990 and '91(to a certain extent, this was a mixed year).

I think the lack of exposure the class of '04 had to the 80s compared to '03 made a difference.. Also those in the class of '03 can probably remember more about the grunge era and when Bush 41 was President.

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Written By: deadrockstar on 06/11/06 at 11:01 pm

Class of '03 was actually 84/85, Class of 04 was 85/86 and Class of 05 was 86/87.

Ooops- you're correct. So the class of '03 got even more exposure to the 80s culture than I thought.

Hmm, you would think the class of '04 would have been a bit more like '03 than they were.. but for some reason they were more like us. I'm an exception to the rule, btw. I'm class of '05 but I was born in '88. I graduated a year early.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/12/06 at 2:16 am

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Written By: Marty McFly on 06/12/06 at 2:22 am

BTW, purely numeratically, I think anyone born in the "0-2" years, and maybe even the "3" as a cusp, can claim they're a "child of" said decade.

I think by 7, you tend to have a perfect memory. Not saying they'd know the details a 15 or 20 year old young adult would, but they still would be able to remember with good detail. If you're born in the "3" year, you'd turn 7 in the "0" year of the following decade, so that's borderline.

But I can attest that almost every '81er or '82er, and even many '83ers I know (not just me ;) ) can remember some NES games or watching Ninja Turtles in at least 1989 or 1990.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

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Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/12/06 at 2:29 am

Indeed, whether consciously or not a person remembers alot from their childhood, and these memories will shape their future perceptions of the world. I was born in January 1986 and graduated in 2003 (because we graduate at age 17 here, and start the school year in February), and definitely consider myself a child of the 90s.

Hey 'Mac, glad to see ya around (I wasn't sure who was still around or not, lol). :)

Do you think people who grew up as kids with MTV and video games, etc. were "shaped" sooner, than, say a Baby Boomer born in 1949?

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 2:32 am

Hey 'Mac, glad to see ya around (I wasn't sure who was still around or not, lol). :)

Do you think people who grew up as kids with MTV and video games, etc. were "shaped" sooner, than, say a Baby Boomer born in 1949?

Hey Marty, I know we don't talk much... ;)

Um, I don't exactly know what you mean by 'shaped sooner.' I mean, sure, alot of 90s culture was geared towards kids (like video games and MTV), but kids in 1949 had their own influences as well - e.g. Cowboys and Indians, War movies, Howdy Doodie. Though yes, to some extent I some the proliferation of 'kiddie friendly' entertainment from the 60s onwards sort of did 'shape' kids at an earlier age.

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Written By: Marty McFly on 06/12/06 at 2:37 am

Hey Marty, I know we don't talk much... ;)

Um, I don't exactly know what you mean by 'shaped sooner.' I mean, sure, alot of 90s culture was geared towards kids (like video games and MTV), but kids in 1949 had their own influences as well - e.g. Cowboys and Indians, War movies, Howdy Doodie. Though yes, to some extent I some the proliferation of 'kiddie friendly' entertainment from the 60s onwards sort of did 'shape' kids at an earlier age.

I guess we've never talked "directly" that much, lol, but I'm happy to do so.

Oh I was just thinking about how many Boomers/Xers identify most with their teen years, while many '80s babies (i.e. myself) as well as '90s babies (several 1990s on here) are more shaped by what came around in their childhood.

Sure, 50s kids played with baseball cards and such (Jerry Springer was born in '44 and that was one of his favorite things growing up), but I think since 1982 or so, there's been SO MUCH "saturation" of youth culture -- MTV, etc -- that it makes kids "attached" at an earlier age, if you know what I mean?

By the time I was 10 in 1991/92 my tastes were already sort of "set", whereas even a typical Brat Pack '80s teen born in 1968 was likely just STARTING to enjoy stuff when they were 10 in 1978. ;)

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 2:40 am

I guess we've never talked "directly" that much, lol, but I'm happy to do so.

Oh I was just thinking about how many Boomers/Xers identify most with their teen years, while many '80s babies (i.e. myself) as well as '90s babies (several 1990s on here) are more shaped by what came around in their childhood.

Sure, 50s kids played with baseball cards and such (Jerry Springer was born in '44 and that was one of his favorite things growing up), but I think since 1982 or so, there's been SO MUCH "saturation" of youth culture -- MTV, etc -- that it makes kids "attached" at an earlier age, if you know what I mean?

By the time I was 10 in 1991/92 my tastes were already sort of "set", whereas even a typical Brat Pack '80s teen born in 1968 was likely just STARTING to enjoy stuff when they were 10 in 1978. ;)

Certainly, the mediums of music and television had become increasingly 'kiddie friendly' as marketer's realise the sheer potential in that market. I think this mainly stemmed from economic prosperity, and to a lesser extent social change, where people recognised and appreciated the need for kid's - as well as adults - to be entertained by this new media. Hence it was really only with the introduction of MTV that kids could get into music by watching videos of their favourite pop stars on those long, boring summer afternoons. And hence, a whole new industry was born.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/12/06 at 2:44 am

Certainly, the mediums of music and television had become increasingly 'kiddie friendly' as marketer's realise the sheer potential in that market. I think this mainly stemmed from economic prosperity, and to a lesser extent social change, where people recognised and appreciated the need for kid's - as well as adults - to be entertained by this new media. Hence it was really only with the introduction of MTV that kids could get into music by watching videos of their favourite pop stars on those long, boring summer afternoons. And hence, a whole new industry was born.

That's true. Even though "rock and roll" is often thought of as really youth centered, do you think it was aimed at a (slightly) older audience pre-1982 or so? Sure, there were 10 year old kids who dug the Beatles in the '60s, but so did my dad who was around 27-31 when they were in their peak. They had some sophisticated/deep/trippy lyrics and appealed to older crowds too.

Even some '50s rockers like Chuck Berry were around 30 when they got popular too.

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 2:48 am

That's true. Even though "rock and roll" is often thought of as really youth centered, do you think it was aimed at a (slightly) older audience pre-1982 or so? Sure, there were 10 year old kids who dug the Beatles in the '60s, but so did my dad who was around 27-31 when they were in their peak. They had some sophisticated/deep/trippy lyrics and appealed to older crowds too.

Even some '50s rockers like Chuck Berry were around 30 when they got popular too.

The Beatles began as a rough and tumble Mersey-beat band - and were transformed by their management and record company into a clean cut record-making machine. They were probably unique in that even the older people took a liking to them. Children too, liked their catchy melody, charismatic personas, and revelled in the sheer hype of it all. The Beatles, too, recognised this, recording several 'children's' songs like Octopus' Garden, 'Yellow Submarine', 'Bungalow Bill' etc.

Rock and Roll was seen as 'teenage' and young people's music (up to maybe 30) - an antithesis to the 'sophisticated' tastes of their elders - i.e. old time crooners from the 40s like Sinatra, strings, Jazz, or 'clean' Blues. It was primal, driven by dance, lewd - in every way 'the Devil's music'. The lyrics were upfront and confrontational in a whitebread conservative society. Hence, in many ways the dance-floors of old serve the same function as the raves of the 90s and nightclubs of today.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/12/06 at 2:53 am

The Beatles began as a rough and tumble Mersey-beat band - and were transformed by their management and record company into a clean cut record-making machine. They were probably unique in that even the older people took a liking to them. Children too, liked their catchy melody, charismatic personas, and revelled in the sheer hype of it all. The Beatles, too, recognised this, recording several 'children's' songs like Octopus' Garden, 'Yellow Submarine', 'Bungalow Bill' etc.

Rock and Roll was seen as 'teenage' and young people's music (up to maybe 30) - an antithesis to the 'sophisticated' tastes of their elders - i.e. old time crooners from the 40s like Sinatra, strings, Jazz, or 'clean' Blues. It was primal, driven by dance, lewd - in every way 'the Devil's music'. The lyrics were upfront and confrontational in a whitebread conservative society. Hence, in many ways the dance-floors of old serve the same function as the raves of the 90s and nightclubs of today.

Very true. I'd say anyone born after 1935 or so could say they were "shaped" by youth culture or rock and roll in general. I'm sure '40s music like Frank Sinatra was already looked at as ancient and totally irrelevant by 1964 or so. Ironic, 'cause Sinatra was sort of a "rebel" and sort of lived "rock and roll" in his lifestyle, but his music was still very sophisticated.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 2:55 am

Very true. I'd say anyone born after 1935 or so could say they were "shaped" by youth culture or rock and roll in general. I'm sure '40s music like Frank Sinatra was already looked at as ancient and totally irrelevant by 1964 or so. Ironic, 'cause Sinatra was sort of a "rebel" and sort of lived "rock and roll" in his lifestyle, but his music was still very sophisticated.

Which era did your own parents most relate to? The Rock'n'Roll era or the Classic Rock era?

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Written By: Marty McFly on 06/12/06 at 2:57 am

Which era did your own parents most relate to? The Rock'n'Roll era or the Classic Rock era?

They're different ages, but my mom is the more "current" one, in terms of rock and such (born 1954 and likes mostly 1964-90's and some of today's too). My dad is a 1938er and likes more "old time" stuff, but in the pop vein, enjoys stuff from the '60s to about 1987.

So actually they both seem to like stuff more around when they were 30, interestingly.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 3:02 am

They're different ages, but my mom is the more "current" one, in terms of rock and such (born 1954 and likes mostly 1964-90's and some of today's too). My dad is a 1938er and likes more "old time" stuff, but in the pop vein, enjoys stuff from the '60s to about 1987.

So actually they both seem to like stuff more around when they were 30, interestingly.

My tastes in music probably change every month: at age 14 I liked Blink 182, Smashmouth, R.E.M., some Korn...lol. Today may taste is ever-growing...I like everything from the Clash, the Doors, Mercury Rev, the Strokes, Marvin Gaye.etc. - all sorts of genres from 30s oldies to current 'alternative' and some current 'popular music.' Usually, the music a person is fondest of is the music that came out when they were about 14-26. My dad was born in 1949 and he's into alot of British Invasion/Classic Rock stuff.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 3:02 am

btw Marty, I answered a couple of your other threads in the other boards. ;)

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/12/06 at 3:04 am

My tastes in music probably change every month: at age 14 I liked Blink 182, Smashmouth, R.E.M., some Korn...lol. Today may taste is ever-growing...I like everything from the Clash, the Doors, Mercury Rev, the Strokes, Marvin Gaye.etc. - all sorts of genres from 30s oldies to current 'alternative' and some current 'popular music.' Usually, the music a person is fondest of is the music that came out when they were about 14-26. My dad was born in 1949 and he's into alot of British Invasion/Classic Rock stuff.

Oh, same with me, I'm always expanding and my "absolute favorite" songs shift probably every week or so, lol.

I identify most with what came out when I was around 5-14 (some was actually coming out then, some was older).

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 3:07 am

Oh, same with me, I'm always expanding and my "absolute favorite" songs shift probably every week or so, lol.

I identify most with what came out when I was around 5-14 (some was actually coming out then, some was older).

Musically, I identify most with the Psychedelic period - 1967-1972: particularly the three golden years of 1967, 1968, 1969. Many will argue Rock peaked around the period between Led Zep IV (the titleless album) and 'Dark Side of the Moon', but I personally think the year 1967 was the best year in music EVER.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/12/06 at 3:11 am

Musically, I identify most with the Psychedelic period - 1967-1972: particularly the three golden years of 1967, 1968, 1969. Many will argue Rock peaked around the period between Led Zep IV (the titleless album) and 'Dark Side of the Moon', but I personally think the year 1967 was the best year in music EVER.

Yeah, 1967 was very "changeful" especially with Sgt. Pepper and alot of psychedelic music exploding. I know it's blasphemy as a rock fan, but I never could get into Zeppelin. Not that they're not great musicians, they are, but it's too "noisy/primal" rock and sort of the first heavy metal.

The Beatles had better melodies, even harder stuff like the Stones was more varied.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 3:15 am

Yeah, 1967 was very "changeful" especially with Sgt. Pepper and alot of psychedelic music exploding. I know it's blasphemy as a rock fan, but I never could get into Zeppelin. Not that they're not great musicians, they are, but it's too "noisy/primal" rock and sort of the first heavy metal.

The Beatles had better melodies, even harder stuff like the Stones was more varied.

Yeah, pure Led Zep (not talking about their poppiest albums like the Rune album, Led Zep III and Houses of the Holy) is very bluesy, quite raw and primal. The Beatles were definitely more soft-rock/pop. Have you listened to much Hendrix, Jefferson Airplane, Doors, psych era 'acid rock'? Maybe that might be more your thing...

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/12/06 at 3:29 am

Yeah, pure Led Zep (not talking about their poppiest albums like the Rune album, Led Zep III and Houses of the Holy) is very bluesy, quite raw and primal. The Beatles were definitely more soft-rock/pop. Have you listened to much Hendrix, Jefferson Airplane, Doors, psych era 'acid rock'? Maybe that might be more your thing...

Yeah, I actually grew up on quite a bit of that too. Hendrix is a good guitarist, and another early heavy metal influence, although I only like "Purple Haze" and "All Along the Watchtower" enough to listen to them on a repeated basis. The Doors have some great hit singles too (i.e. Touch Me, Hello I Love You, Break On Through, Love Me Two Times).

P.S. "All Of My Love" is the only Zeppelin song I really would say I like, aside from a couple of Plant's '80s solo hits.

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 3:33 am

Yeah, I actually grew up on quite a bit of that too. Hendrix is a good guitarist, and another early heavy metal influence, although I only like "Purple Haze" and "All Along the Watchtower" enough to listen to them on a repeated basis. The Doors have some great hit singles too (i.e. Touch Me, Hello I Love You, Break On Through, Love Me Two Times).

P.S. "All Of My Love" is the only Zeppelin song I really would say I like, aside from a couple of Plant's '80s solo hits.

If you only know those songs, you haven't heard the REAL Doors. Do yourself a favour and start my at least listening to their debut 'The Doors' (long heralded as one of the best debuts in rock history)...you'll be hooked at once.

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Written By: Marty McFly on 06/12/06 at 3:42 am

If you only know those songs, you haven't heard the REAL Doors. Do yourself a favour and start my at least listening to their debut 'The Doors' (long heralded as one of the best debuts in rock history)...you'll be hooked at once.

I have their "Greatest Hits", but was their general sound not like that of their hits? I'm guessing more dark/trippy.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 3:59 am

I have their "Greatest Hits", but was their general sound not like that of their hits? I'm guessing more dark/trippy.

The songs from 'The Doors' in the greatest hits are:

Break on Through
Alabama Song,
and 'The End'

But, of course, merely listening to those will hardly give you the complete picture of what the early Doors was all about.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: deadrockstar on 06/12/06 at 10:04 am

I'm in total agreement with you. This actually demonstrates exactly what I'm often talking about on here. Not to generalize, but it does seem like alot of Baby Boomers and Gen Xers treat a 15 or 16 year old like they're still 9 or something, just bigger, stronger and with deeper voices. "Minors" yeah, but not "children". That's ridiculous.

(I'm also against that because I'm an '81er and there's no way in h*ll I'm a "child of the '90s". 1991 or '92 sure, but not freakin' 1998!)

I'd say a child is age 3-11 or 12, basically pre-adolescence. I really do feel you're imprinted most by these years. In fact, alot of studies have said someone's personality is largely determined by age 5 or so.

Well you were born in '81, and remember the 90s didn't truely hit until '92(90 and 91 were a transitional period). So by the time they did you were entering puberty(I assume) or about to. So how could you be a "child" of the 90s?

And what you're saying about Boomers and Xers is true. I think the reason behind it may be that when they were kids, it wasn't usual for them to follow pop culture in general. Prior to the latter part of the 90s, teen/young adult-oriented pop culture was pretty firmly seperate from kids under 12 or 13. But in the 90s with our generation kids started to pay attention to the mainstream pop culture a lot sooner. But it seems Boomers and Xers are determined to think of us in terms of their experiences. Therefore if you're younger than 14 or 15 you HAD to be oblivious to and uninfluenced by pop culture, but that just isn't true with Gen Y.

Edit: With myself for an example.. I started getting into pop culture when I was about 9 years old, 1997. The latter part of the year granted.. but it can be argued the culture of the 90s lasted through 2001.. so thats four years of exposure to 90s pop culture. But according to my uncle that in no way influenced me. ::) Agree to disagree I guess.

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Written By: deadrockstar on 06/12/06 at 10:24 am

I totally agree. Anyone born in 1990-1993 could defidently claim to be a "child of the '90s" but I would say that '93 and maybe even '92 would be pushing it since they would have a tough time remembering anything before 1996.

I think with the '92ers, it can depend on whether or not they had older siblings who were definitely 90s kids.

Who do you guys think are the pure kids of the 90s? I'd say if you spent your entire childhood(ages 4 through 10) in the 90s culture(1992 through 2001) then you could be called a pure 90s kid. That includes those born 1988 through 1991.

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 10:52 am

I think of late '80s born kids as the pure '90s kids. I'd say 1988 or my year 1987 to be the absolute peak of the "'90s child".

I think a 1986er is more of a true '90s child' than a 1988er, because they would have been 4 (a reasonable age to experience things) when 1990 came around - whereas an 88er was merely a baby, and they just entered their teen years in 1999-2000, while an 1988er only turned 13 in 2001. So a 1985er or 1986er is the absolute peak 90s kid/had the typical 90s childhood.

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Written By: deadrockstar on 06/12/06 at 10:55 am

I think a 1986er is more of a true '90s child' than a 1988er, because they would have been 4 (a reasonable age to experience things) when 1990 came around - whereas an 88er was merely a baby, and they just entered their teen years in 1999-2000, while an 1988er only turned 13 in 2001. So a 1985er or 1986er is the absolute peak 90s kid/had the typical 90s childhood.

Bullsh*t.

Those born in '85 and '86 are cuspers between 80s and 90s kids, along with 83ers and 84ers.

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Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 06/12/06 at 11:09 am

I think a 1986er is more of a true '90s child' than a 1988er, because they would have been 4 (a reasonable age to experience things) when 1990 came around - whereas an 88er was merely a baby, and they just entered their teen years in 1999-2000, while an 1988er only turned 13 in 2001. So a 1985er or 1986er is the absolute peak 90s kid/had the typical 90s childhood.

I agree somewhat. An '86er would have defidently gotten more into the early '90s being roughly 4-7 and an '88er would have been 2-5 but I think an '88er would have still been young enough to get into some of the late '90s kids stuff but '86ers may have been slightly too old in 1998 and 1999 to.

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/12/06 at 3:08 pm

I think the absolute peak '90s child is born in 1988.

It's definitely true that the American class of '03 is quite different from the class of '04. The class of '03 could've remembered fairly well when Bush Sr. was president, and were slightly too old for all of the stuff like the Backstreet Boys around 1999 or so.

I think that baby boomers most definitely had pop culture as children. They were absolutely immersed in dolls, TV shows, radio programs extolling '60s culture. Lots of kids in the '60s had little radios which they listened to Motown, British Invasion, and bubblegum pop on.

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Written By: Roadgeek on 06/12/06 at 3:27 pm

I've never really been into the latest music styles. Today, while all the other people my age listen to rap etc, I'm listening to the Beatles, Rolling Stones, '70s, '80s, and '90s.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: ultraviolet52 on 06/12/06 at 5:52 pm

I dunno, some people call me a child of the '90s, and I truly am. But, my first childhood memories are settled in the '80s.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 06/12/06 at 6:03 pm

I dunno, some people call me a child of the '90s, and I truly am. But, my first childhood memories are settled in the '80s.

Much like me ( :) ), you're a child of the 90s' first half.

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Written By: ultraviolet52 on 06/12/06 at 6:07 pm

Much like me ( :) ), you're a child of the 90s' first half.

Yeah, as we were near 20 years old by the end of the '90s - so definetly not children in the literal sense :)

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/12/06 at 6:38 pm

Yeah, as we were near 20 years old by the end of the '90s - so definetly not children in the literal sense :)

I think of people born about late 1980-mid 1982, who came of age during mid 1996-early 1998 (sort of the "later mid-'90s"), as being the first of Gen Y. They had '80s/early '90s childhoods that were very much part of the Home Alone era and were teens during the last half of the '90s, and sort of had the first "Gen Y teen experiences." Like, I think of people from the classes of '99 or '00 as being the people in say Drives Me Crazy and She's All That.

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Written By: ultraviolet52 on 06/12/06 at 7:29 pm

I think of people born about late 1980-mid 1982, who came of age during mid 1996-early 1998 (sort of the "later mid-'90s"), as being the first of Gen Y. They had '80s/early '90s childhoods that were very much part of the Home Alone era and were teens during the last half of the '90s, and sort of had the first "Gen Y teen experiences." Like, I think of people from the classes of '99 or '00 as being the people in say Drives Me Crazy and She's All That.

I think that's a good assessment. I always thought I belonged to Gen X until my cousin said I was a Gen Y, and I was like, "What? Hello NO" ;D

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Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 06/12/06 at 7:55 pm

I'm very split between the '90s and the '00s, let's see if you say 8-18 are the meaning childhood years, that puts me at 1995-2005. Generally I'd say I grew up in later half of the '90s and earlier half of the 2000s.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I feel split sometimes in the exact same way even though I haven't paid much attention to kids stuff since about 2000.

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/12/06 at 8:28 pm

I'm very split between the '90s and the '00s, let's see if you say 8-18 are the meaning childhood years, that puts me at 1995-2005. Generally I'd say I grew up in later half of the '90s and earlier half of the 2000s.

I don't really think 8-18 are the "meaning childhood years", it's probably more like 4-18. So your years would be 1991-2005. My years would be 1994-2008.

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Written By: nicki_morrissey on 06/12/06 at 9:07 pm

So, my years would have been 1992-2006.

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 9:43 pm

I dunno, some people call me a child of the '90s, and I truly am. But, my first childhood memories are settled in the '80s.

I think you would truly have been on the 'cusp' of being a 90s child - though I think you lean more towards being an 80s child since those were your formative influences. If your first video game console was a NES (assuming you played video games), then you're more likely an 80s child.

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 9:45 pm

I don't really think 8-18 are the "meaning childhood years", it's probably more like 4-18. So your years would be 1991-2005. My years would be 1994-2008.

I still define 'childhood' years as 4-12 - from when you're a toddler to when you're a teenager. Eight short, golden, formative years.

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/12/06 at 9:47 pm

I still define 'childhood' years as 4-12 - from when you're a toddler to when you're a teenager. Eight short, golden, formative years.

I think you're really sort of a young teenager by 12. You're most likely pubescent and such...I stopped feeling like a kid around the time I turned like 12, in early 2002.

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 9:49 pm

I think you're really sort of a young teenager by 12. You're most likely pubescent and such...I stopped feeling like a kid around the time I turned like 12, in early 2002.

When did you hit puberty and have your growth spurt? I'd consider myself a late developer, not really fully maturing until...heck, I'm not even sure if I'm funny mature now! lol

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/12/06 at 10:22 pm

When did you hit puberty and have your growth spurt? I'd consider myself a late developer, not really fully maturing until...heck, I'm not even sure if I'm funny mature now! lol

Early 2002.

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 10:25 pm

Early 2002.

At age 12? That's quite early. I only got my growth spurt about 15-16. But there's no shame in being a shorter guy. ;) I'm one (well 5'8" is short, isn't it)?

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/12/06 at 10:27 pm

At age 12? That's quite early. I only got my growth spurt about 15-16. But there's no shame in being a shorter guy. ;) I'm one (well 5'8" is short, isn't it)?

The last time period I really felt like a kid was fall 2001. I was like practically in 7th grade for most of the year I was 12...that's not a kid. Like, people are doing drugs and making out by then, LOL.

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Written By: Roadgeek on 06/12/06 at 10:29 pm

I decided I wasn't a kid anymore when I was late 13. That was also the same time I became a Roadgeek which was around September of 2003.

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/12/06 at 10:30 pm

I decided I wasn't a kid anymore when I was late 13. That was also the same time I became a Roadgeek which was around September of 2003.

When you were late 13? Wow, that's late. I knew I wasn't a kid anymore by early 2002...and it wasn't as much a conscious decision as a "change of mind." I started caring about sex more, and everyone in my grade started caring about sex, drink, and drugs (though it was about 100x more talk about it than actually happened.)

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Written By: Roadgeek on 06/12/06 at 10:33 pm

When you were late 13? Wow, that's late. I knew I wasn't a kid anymore by early 2002...and it wasn't as much a conscious decision as a "change of mind." I started caring about sex more, and everyone in my grade started caring about sex, drink, and drugs (though it was about 100x more talk about it than actually happened.)

Well, I sorta go with that date because that was the time I stopped playing with toys. You're right other than that. It probably started a little earlier than that.

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Written By: deadrockstar on 06/12/06 at 10:47 pm

At age 12? That's quite early. I only got my growth spurt about 15-16. But there's no shame in being a shorter guy. ;) I'm one (well 5'8" is short, isn't it)?

You think HE was early? I started puberty at 11. Thats when my voice started changing among other things. I've always been a little bit ahead in that regard. Most of the other kids' voices didn't change for a year or two after mine did. Also I started getting chest hair when I was only 13.. by the time I was 14 I had a patch(now I have alot more) goin' which is funny because alot of dudes don't get any until they're in their 20s, if ever(some seem to hardly ever get any). ;D ;D I looked like Robin Williams when I was 16. :D

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 10:52 pm

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/12/06 at 10:53 pm

I hardly have much chest hair and I'm already 20 (you need a microscope to see it, lol - nah, I have a teeny bit), but I only really hit puberty at age 13-14-15, with my growth spurt around 15-16. At age 14 I was 5'2". At age 16 I was about my present height.

I'm 16, and I have a moderate amount of chest hair, and I'm almost done growing, probably 2 more inches and I'll be 5'4", which is about as tall as I'm getting. I'm a hairy Mediterranean. I also have a full beard if I don't shave, practically.

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 10:57 pm

I'm 16, and I have a moderate amount of chest hair, and I'm almost done growing, probably 2 more inches and I'll be 5'4", which is about as tall as I'm getting. I'm a hairy Mediterranean. I also have a full beard if I don't shave, practically.

You do? :o Most 16yos don't really have beards and chest hair, lol. That usually happens at age 18, 19, 20+. I'd love to see a pic of you with a beard! ;D

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/12/06 at 10:57 pm

You do? :o Most 16yos don't really have beards and chest hair, lol. That usually happens at age 18, 19, 20+. I'd love to see a pic of you with a beard! ;D

Well, it's never developed, because I shave.

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 11:00 pm

Well, it's never developed, because I shave.

What would make you grow it? What if I, um, dared you to grow one. Would you? It'd be like an online dare...lol

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Written By: deadrockstar on 06/12/06 at 11:03 pm

You do? :o Most 16yos don't really have beards and chest hair, lol. That usually happens at age 18, 19, 20+. I'd love to see a pic of you with a beard! ;D

Is everyone's puberty in Australia stunted? Geez. :P

In America, from my experience(the dudes I knew in High school) most guys are shaving by 15 or 16, maybe not every day but they do.

I got my chest hair early, thats for sure. But its not all that uncommon for 16 year olds to have it. A lot don't but there are a good number who do.

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 11:05 pm

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Written By: deadrockstar on 06/12/06 at 11:12 pm

LOL...what an outrageous assumption?

Yeah, I actually started shaving at age 14, but, you know, it wasn't enough to grow a thick beard. Due to genetics I probably won't grow a thick beard, but while most guys shave at age 15 or earlier, it doesn't get thick enough until maybe age 17 or so.

Oh okay, I see what you meant now. Yeah.. in my case I'm 18 and I actually still cannot grow a full beard. Its ironic because I'm hairy otherwise, but I'm lacking a bit in the facial hair department. I'm part American Indian which may have something to do with it, or it could just be my age. But its just that everything else came so early its odd that the beard didn't.

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/12/06 at 11:41 pm

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Written By: deadrockstar on 06/12/06 at 11:50 pm

Lol...a genetic quirk, most likely. Everyone says I look young for my age - maybe I should grow a beard. ;D

I too feel I look young. I have smooth skin anyway, dimples(well ya know chubby cheeks- us fatboys tend to be babyfaced), and I'm short. So without facial hair I think a lot of people tend to mistake me for 15 or 16. My face just doesn't look quite fully adult IMO. A beard might do it for me as well.. If I can grow one. I said I can't, but its been nearly a year since I tried letting my facial hair grow.

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Written By: Todd Pettingzoo on 06/13/06 at 8:09 am

I'm 24, and still get carded. Also, I can't grow a full beard. I guess I look 16, 17. Being short maybe has a lot to do with it. I'm only like 5'5 or 5'5 1/2.

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Written By: nicki_morrissey on 06/13/06 at 2:26 pm

I'm 5'5 and I can't grow a beard either :(

;D

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Written By: ultraviolet52 on 06/13/06 at 6:50 pm

I think you would truly have been on the 'cusp' of being a 90s child - though I think you lean more towards being an 80s child since those were your formative influences. If your first video game console was a NES (assuming you played video games), then you're more likely an 80s child.

Actually, my first video game system was an Atari. Then a Sega Megasystem and then Nintendo. Nintendo was considered as the "newbie" of the three.

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/13/06 at 6:50 pm

Well, that's what you say, nicki...

I think your peak "childhood" period is like when you're 6-9. So, my peak childhood years would be like 1996-1999 or so, the peak years of a 1986er would be 1992-1995. When you're like 11, you're an older kid...too old for cartoons except on a casual basis and more into stuff like video games (usually), or pretending to be a teenager. I'm a 1997ish kid.

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Written By: bbigd04 on 06/13/06 at 6:55 pm

Peak childhood memories linger between 6-12. I think when you're 12, you really start seeing things differently.

Yeah 10-12 is definitely part of your childhood.

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/13/06 at 7:02 pm

Yeah 10-12 is definitely part of your childhood.

It's your "tweeny years." I definitely feel like by the time you're in 7th grade, though, you're not a kid., and over half of the time I was 12 I was in 7th grade. The difference is, when you're like 11, you're probably aspiring more to be a teenager and to be pubescent. Whereas when you're 9, it's pretty far from your mind.

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Written By: bbigd04 on 06/13/06 at 7:03 pm

It's your "tweeny years." I definitely feel like by the time you're in 7th grade, though, you're not a kid., and over half of the time I was 12 I was in 7th grade. The difference is, when you're like 11, you're probably aspiring more to be a teenager and to be pubescent. Whereas when you're 9, it's pretty far from your mind.

12 is kind of teenish but I think 10 and 11 are still pretty much children.

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/13/06 at 7:10 pm

12 is kind of teenish but I think 10 and 11 are still pretty much children.

Yeah, if you're 10 and 11 you're still basically a kid. An older kid, albeit, but still a kid, if you know what I mean. By the time you're 12, you're sort of a young teenager. I definitely remember by my 12th birthday I was very different than I was on my 11th birthday. Like, I had a much more "adult" perspective on things, I had already fallen in love and had my heart broken, I looked older, I was pubescent, I had grown like 6 inches and lost 30 pounds, etc.

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/13/06 at 10:34 pm

Actually, my first video game system was an Atari. Then a Sega Megasystem and then Nintendo. Nintendo was considered as the "newbie" of the three.

Which was your favourite of the three?

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Written By: rich1981 on 06/13/06 at 10:38 pm

Technically I was a child and teen of the 90's but I'm also a child of the 80's as well. I would say the peak of my childhood was 1988-1991 so my childhood indeed had an 80's mindset but the 90's influence was strong as well, in particular the Super Nintendo. So why not say I was a child of the 80's and the 90's.

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Written By: ultraviolet52 on 06/14/06 at 4:28 pm

Which was your favourite of the three?

I would say I liked Sega the best. Also Sega Genesis was a great console.

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Written By: ultraviolet52 on 06/14/06 at 4:30 pm

Whaddaya mean an 11yo is too old for cartoons? >:(

I pity you James, you probably grew up too fast...

I still liked cartoons all the way up until 16 or 17 years old ;D I mean, I probably outgrew the Sesames Street stuff, but I still loved the stuff I grew up on and cherished them when I watched them.

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Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 06/14/06 at 7:44 pm

I still liked cartoons all the way up until 16 or 17 years old ;D I mean, I probably outgrew the Sesames Street stuff, but I still loved the stuff I grew up on and cherished them when I watched them.

Yeah, I'm nearly 19 and I still watch some of the cartoons I used to watch when I was kid :D

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Written By: Marty McFly on 06/14/06 at 11:17 pm

Yeah, I'm nearly 19 and I still watch some of the cartoons I used to watch when I was kid :D

Heck, I probably like cartoons more now than when I was a kid. ;D Well, I was never into the super "kidlike" ones, but Sesame Street was always cool. Aside from being comical, it also had some "realistic based" stuff.

I think when you're about 11-15 the last thing you want to be associated with is "kiddie" stuff, but certainly by your late teens you're old enough that you can sort of enjoy being a kid again, if you know what I mean. That's how it was with me anyway.

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/14/06 at 11:35 pm

Heck, I probably like cartoons more now than when I was a kid. ;D Well, I was never into the super "kidlike" ones, but Sesame Street was always cool. Aside from being comical, it also had some "realistic based" stuff.

I think when you're about 11-15 the last thing you want to be associated with is "kiddie" stuff, but certainly by your late teens you're old enough that you can sort of enjoy being a kid again, if you know what I mean. That's how it was with me anyway.

Yes, there's no pressure to cast away childish things once you reach your late teens, like there is in your early teens.

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/15/06 at 5:13 am

Yes, there's no pressure to cast away childish things once you reach your late teens, like there is in your early teens.

Yeah...by 10th grade I stopped being so sensitive about turning on Nickelodeon reruns or The Little Mermaid occasionally. I watched some cartoons by 5th grade, but I remember there being a general movement by my classmates to avoid Nick since we felt no relation to Spongebob. The debut of Spongebob was a big event in ending the childhoods of people around my age, pop culturally.

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/15/06 at 5:22 am

Yeah...by 10th grade I stopped being so sensitive about turning on Nickelodeon reruns or The Little Mermaid occasionally. I watched some cartoons by 5th grade, but I remember there being a general movement by my classmates to avoid Nick since we felt no relation to Spongebob. The debut of Spongebob was a big event in ending the childhoods of people around my age, pop culturally.

I don't think I would have any affinity with what Nick has become today...I think it's sort of betrayed its most loyal viewers - the kids of the 90s, and appeared to the lowest common denominator, if you know what I mean.

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/15/06 at 5:26 am

I don't think I would have any affinity with what Nick has become today...I think it's sort of betrayed its most loyal viewers - the kids of the 90s, and appeared to the lowest common denominator, if you know what I mean.

Of course, I'm sure the kids of the '00s, people born after 1992, see it as an '00s network because of the shows on it now. Though we were the first to popularize it.

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/15/06 at 5:32 am

Of course, I'm sure the kids of the '00s, people born after 1992, see it as an '00s network because of the shows on it now. Though we were the first to popularize it.

Indeed. Though we only watched it from 1997-2001, I think I saw 'Classic Nick', as many of the programs on at the time dated from the early to mid 90s.

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/15/06 at 5:34 am

Indeed. Though we only watched it from 1997-2001, I think I saw 'Classic Nick', as many of the programs on at the time dated from the early to mid 90s.

Honey, I was RAISED on that network. I started watching it in 1993.

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/15/06 at 5:38 am

Honey, I was RAISED on that network. I started watching it in 1993.

Ah, but, free to air showed MANY nick shows on ABC (a local channel) in the early to mid 90s. I remember watching 'Rugrats', 'Rockos', 'Real Monsters' and the like as early as 1992, before I had any idea what Nickeloden was, lol.

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/15/06 at 5:38 am

Ah, but, free to air showed MANY nick shows on ABC (a local channel) in the early to mid 90s. I remember watching 'Rugrats', 'Rockos', 'Real Monsters' and the like as early as 1992, before I had any idea what Nickeloden was, lol.

Si, si.

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Written By: Trimac20 on 06/15/06 at 5:40 am

Si, si.

Yes, probably picking at straws, lol. Ah...feeling a little hungry, I'll just get some dinner and see whats on TV. We can continue this later if you're still online. :)

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/15/06 at 5:49 am

Yes, probably picking at straws, lol. Ah...feeling a little hungry, I'll just get some dinner and see whats on TV. We can continue this later if you're still online. :)

I have to go take my American Lit Honors and Art exams.

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Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 06/15/06 at 3:16 pm

Heck, I probably like cartoons more now than when I was a kid. ;D Well, I was never into the super "kidlike" ones, but Sesame Street was always cool. Aside from being comical, it also had some "realistic based" stuff.

I think when you're about 11-15 the last thing you want to be associated with is "kiddie" stuff, but certainly by your late teens you're old enough that you can sort of enjoy being a kid again, if you know what I mean. That's how it was with me anyway.

Yeah, thats part of the reason I distanced myself from Nickelodeon in 2000. I was almost 13 and I just figured I was too old for that stuff. I wanted people to consider me an adult. Now that I actually am one I guess it dosent matter quite as much.

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Written By: Donnie Darko on 06/15/06 at 3:17 pm

Yeah, thats part of the reason I distanced myself from Nickelodeon in 2000. I was almost 13 and I just figured I was too old for that stuff. I wanted people to consider me an adult. Now that I actually am one I guess it dosent matter quite as much.

I distanced myself from Nick between 1998 and 2001 because it started to suck! ;D

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Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 06/15/06 at 3:20 pm

I distanced myself from Nick between 1998 and 2001 because it started to suck! ;D

Yeah, thats the other reason why I did too ;D

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Written By: ultraviolet52 on 06/15/06 at 3:46 pm

I distanced myself from Nick between 1998 and 2001 because it started to suck! ;D

Probably every generation will have a different take on this. See, I started to think Nick sucked once Doug and those other shows came around, like the Rugrats, etc. The Nick that I was raised on had changed and I didn't like these new shows invading, so I stuck one to them. ;D

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Written By: Donnie Darko on 06/15/06 at 3:47 pm

Probably every generation will have a different take on this. See, I started to think Nick sucked once Doug and those other shows came around, like the Rugrats, etc. The Nick that I was raised on had changed and I didn't like these new shows invading, so I stuck one to them. ;D

The same thing happened to me with Disney when all my favorite shows (Lizzie McGuire, So Weird, Even Stevens) were replaced by That's So Raven and Phil of the Future.

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Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 06/15/06 at 3:50 pm

The same thing happened to me with Disney when all my favorite shows (Lizzie McGuire, So Weird, Even Stevens) were replaced by That's So Raven and Phil of the Future.

Yeah, I used to watch the Disney Channel in the mid '90s. But it really sucks now.

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/15/06 at 4:04 pm

The same thing happened to me with Disney when all my favorite shows (Lizzie McGuire, So Weird, Even Stevens) were replaced by That's So Raven and Phil of the Future.

I never myself got into the Disney Channel. Most obviously, we didn't get it. But, I think we were about the oldest end of the audience for 2001ish Disney channel, along with say the 1989ers. The prime audience for that, I always thought, was born around 1992 or 1993.

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Written By: Donnie Darko on 06/15/06 at 4:07 pm

I never myself got into the Disney Channel. Most obviously, we didn't get it. But, I think we were about the oldest end of the audience for 2001ish Disney channel, along with say the 1989ers. The prime audience for that, I always thought, was born around 1992 or 1993.

I think the "High School Musical" era of 2003 onwards is sort of a 1994-2000 thing.

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/15/06 at 4:13 pm

I think the "High School Musical" era of 2003 onwards is sort of a 1994-2000 thing.

Yeah...even 1993ers are probably a little bit old for that. It's like something somebody born in 1996 would be into. Lizzie McGuire is a 1989-1996 sort of thing, and somebody born in 1992 and 1993 would be the prime Hilary Duff nostalgic.

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Written By: bbigd04 on 06/15/06 at 4:15 pm

I mainly watched Disney in the early- mid '90s as a younger kid, stuff like "Chip n' Dale", "Tale Spin", "Darkwing Duck", "DuckTales" I frequently watched.

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Written By: velvetoneo on 06/15/06 at 6:49 pm

I mainly watched Disney in the early- mid '90s as a younger kid, stuff like "Chip n' Dale", "Tale Spin", "Darkwing Duck", "DuckTales" I frequently watched.

I used to like "Tale Spin", I think they reran it on a station that we got.

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Written By: Meghan88 on 06/15/06 at 7:53 pm

I mainly watched Disney in the early- mid '90s as a younger kid, stuff like "Chip n' Dale", "Tale Spin", "Darkwing Duck", "DuckTales" I frequently watched.

i watched all of that stuff (don't forget Goof Troop! haha) along with shows like the Torkelsons, Bug Juice, Ready or Not & sometimes re-runs of the Babysitter's Club even though the acting was soooo bad (the books are SO much better).

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Written By: ultraviolet52 on 06/15/06 at 8:01 pm

i watched all of that stuff (don't forget Goof Troop! haha) along with shows like the Torkelsons, Bug Juice, Ready or Not & sometimes re-runs of the Babysitter's Club even though the acting was soooo bad (the books are SO much better).

The Babysitter's club books were a lot better, although the Babysitter's club movie was not all that bad. I remember it being enjoyable.

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Written By: Meghan88 on 06/15/06 at 8:10 pm

The Babysitter's club books were a lot better, although the Babysitter's club movie was not all that bad. I remember it being enjoyable.

yeah the movie was pretty awesome

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Written By: 90skid on 09/02/06 at 10:09 pm

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 09/03/06 at 4:02 pm

i think some of you guys are completely off. i agree with the guy that had the whole 10 yeark mark thing(7-17,8-19 etc...) i think to be a true child of any decade you really have to have come of age in that decade and truly experienced it both as a child and as a teen. i was born in 82 and iam a typical 90s child, iwas 7-8 when the decade began and 18 when it ended. the 90s can be split into 2 parts for me, 1990-1995(child, pre teen, elementary) 1996-1999(teen, graduated elementary and high school years). i think some years a re up for debate but you really can't call yourself a child of te 90s if you were born in 90 just like i cant call myself a child of the 80s cause i was born in 82 even though i remember 87-89 quite well and i can recall watching nightrider reruns and listening to george michael and the pet shop boys like it was yesterday.

I don't consider a "kid" in the literal sense to go past age 12 (in the figurative sense, anyone under 30 could probably be considered a "kid" by the older generations, but I'm talking about actual kids), so that's what I tend to base it off of.

I think you could get at least partial credit for being a " kid" if you were 4-12 in it. I don't think you need to remember every single year to qualify, although some people would disagree. Much as I love the '80s, I obviously don't remember much before 1985 at all, and even anything before mid '86 is a little fuzzy, so I'm not a full '80s kid. But I turned 13 in 1994, so I can't claim the second half of the '90s as a '90s kid either.

People around our age are kinda both and neither at the same time.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Roadgeek on 09/03/06 at 4:06 pm

I don't consider a "kid" in the literal sense to go past age 12 (in the figurative sense, anyone under 30 could probably be considered a "kid" by the older generations, but I'm talking about actual kids), so that's what I tend to base it off of.

I think you could get at least partial credit for being a " kid" if you were 4-12 in it. I don't think you need to remember every single year to qualify, although some people would disagree. Much as I love the '80s, I obviously don't remember much before 1985 at all, and even anything before mid '86 is a little fuzzy, so I'm not a full '80s kid. But I turned 13 in 1994, so I can't claim the second half of the '90s as a '90s kid either.

People around our age are kinda both and neither at the same time.

I was about a month old when the '90s began in 1990 and 10 when they ended in 1999. I can remember pieces of late 1992 including the election, some 1993, a lot of 1994 and up.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 09/03/06 at 4:13 pm

I was about a month old when the '90s began in 1990 and 10 when they ended in 1999. I can remember pieces of late 1992 including the election, some 1993, a lot of 1994 and up.

I don't remember anything political until the '88 election which I was vaguely aware of (i.e. who George Bush Sr. was), so you've got me beat there. ;) I do have some extremely fragmented memories of late 1984/early '85 - taking a drive in our neighborhood at the time, being at my preschool, hearing songs on the radio, etc.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 09/03/06 at 4:45 pm

I don't remember anything political until the '88 election which I was vaguely aware of (i.e. who George Bush Sr. was), so you've got me beat there. ;) I do have some extremely fragmented memories of late 1984/early '85 - taking a drive in our neighborhood at the time, being at my preschool, hearing songs on the radio, etc.

I remember the 1996 election quite well. The voting booths were outside my 1st grade classroom, and I asked everyone about who their parents voted for. I also VERY vaguely remember the 1993 WTC bombing.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Roadgeek on 09/03/06 at 4:50 pm

I think I very very vaguely remember news reports about the 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 09/03/06 at 5:08 pm

haha, I guess I don't fit into the 90s clique. ;) I missed the earliest birth year by 1 year, I was born in 1975.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 09/03/06 at 5:11 pm

haha, I guess I don't fit into the 90s clique. ;) I missed the earliest birth year by 1 year, I was born in 1975.

Yeah...I think about 1975 are the last of the '80s teens. People born 1973-1975 are sort of in their own group.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 09/03/06 at 5:20 pm

Probably, I don't know.

I never felt like a stereotypical 80s high schooler (the class of 1985 or something) and neither a stereotypical 90s high schooler (people that graduated in 1999 or so).

But I did feel the ability to "get into" both, if that makes any sense, i.e. old enough in the 80s and still young enough in the 90s to dig it.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 09/03/06 at 5:33 pm

Probably, I don't know.

I never felt like a stereotypical 80s high schooler (the class of 1985 or something) and neither a stereotypical 90s high schooler (people that graduated in 1999 or so).

But I did feel the ability to "get into" both, if that makes any sense, i.e. old enough in the 80s and still young enough in the 90s to dig it.

I feel that way about the '80s, '90s and '00s actually. I don't firmly fit into any of them, but as of now, they're all a part of my "young" life.

I imagine in the future, I'll probably call anywhere from 1986-early 2010s "my time".

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 09/03/06 at 5:51 pm

^You do actually fit firmly in as a more stereotypical "90s teenager", by birth year/age.

I was there (class of 1993), but I understand why some would say, that I really wasn't there.

Nevertheless the 90s were part of my life and growing up experiences, even if I'm not officially part of the club. I was too young in the 80s, even 1989, to do a lot of stuff.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 09/03/06 at 6:00 pm

^You do actually fit firmly in as a more stereotypical "90s teenager", by birth year/age.

I was there (class of 1993), but I understand why some would say, that I really wasn't there.

Nevertheless the 90s were part of my life and growing up experiences, even if I'm not officially part of the club. I was too young in the 80s, even 1989, to do a lot of stuff.

You mean like driving, going out clubbing and such? You were around 13-14 in 1989, right? Yeah, that is kind of a weird inbetween age. I felt the same around '95.

I graduated in 2000. Biologically I'm more of a '90s teen, although not the grunge '90s in a high school sense. I remember alot of grunge dudes in my townhouse complex in 1994 when I was 12 or 13 who were about 4 years older than me (some were in their 20s too). That's sort of always been my impression of a stereotypical '90s teen. Or those you'd see on 90210 maybe.

I was pop culturally imprinted by my under 14 years the most, but just in terms of numbers, I guess someone my age would be like an American Pie '90s/very early 00s teen.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 09/03/06 at 6:18 pm

The 80s were my magic decade, but I did like the 90s.

Yeah, driving, going out, didn't do any or much of that at 13-14 back in 1989. Me personally I was still hanging out with my friends in the neighborhood, not really going anywhere besides the odd movie. We were like advanced 10 year olds.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Tanya1976 on 09/03/06 at 6:57 pm

haha, I guess I don't fit into the 90s clique. ;) I missed the earliest birth year by 1 year, I was born in 1975.

Here we go again, Chris ;D. You are a year older than me. No difference at all. Sorry!! You are a teen of at least the early 90s. After that, our teens are pretty much done. I was very active in the early 90s. Where the heck were you at the time, Chris? Did you miss everything? lol

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Roadgeek on 09/03/06 at 7:07 pm

So far, I've spent the majority of my life in the '90s. Most people would say that my time would be like 2002-2009, but I'm the '90s.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 09/03/06 at 7:54 pm

Here we go again, Chris ;D. You are a year older than me. No difference at all. Sorry!! You are a teen of at least the early 90s. After that, our teens are pretty much done. I was very active in the early 90s. Where the heck were you at the time, Chris? Did you miss everything? lol

Oh early 90s sure, with Marty I was talking about the late 80s and what I was doing in 1989. In '89, other then hanging out with my friends in the neighborhood, I wasn't you know, "out out".

Early 90s, were a much, much different story. Which decade I prefer? Oh no contest the 80s. I did like the 90s, I never hated it, and I'm not trying to force myself in the 90s club and act like I was 15 in 1997 or something crazy like that. I guess what I'm saying is, I was able to do a ton of things in the 90s for the first time (starting from 1990 when I was 15), that me personally I did not do in the actual 1980s. There was a huge difference in the way I was compared to 1989 and 1992.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Tanya1976 on 09/03/06 at 8:12 pm

Oh early 90s sure, with Marty I was talking about the late 80s and what I was doing in 1989. In '89, other then hanging out with my friends in the neighborhood, I wasn't you know, "out out".

Early 90s, were a much, much different story. Which decade I prefer? Oh no contest the 80s. I did like the 90s, I never hated it, and I'm not trying to force myself in the 90s club and act like I was 15 in 1997 or something crazy like that. I guess what I'm saying is, I was able to do a ton of things in the 90s for the first time (starting from 1990 when I was 15), that me personally I did not do in the actual 1980s. There was a huge difference in the way I was compared to 1989 and 1992.

Just teasing ya, Chris!! lol I understand.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 09/04/06 at 12:47 am

I don't remember anything political until the '88 election which I was vaguely aware of (i.e. who George Bush Sr. was), so you've got me beat there. ;) I do have some extremely fragmented memories of late 1984/early '85 - taking a drive in our neighborhood at the time, being at my preschool, hearing songs on the radio, etc.

Yeah, I cant remember the '88 election(I was only 1,lol), but I remember the '92 election fairly well. The first memories I have are from around 1989/1990.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Roadgeek on 09/04/06 at 12:50 am

I actually remember being 2 years old and having my picture taken in front of our '92 election campaign sign. For privacy reasons, I will not tell you which canididate it was.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: nally on 09/04/06 at 12:52 am

Yeah, I cant remember the '88 election(I was only 1,lol), but I remember the '92 election fairly well. The first memories I have are from around 1989/1990.

I was 4 months old during the '80 election (so I can't remember THAT, lol) ;D ...and I was 4 YEARS old during the '84 election (so I don't remember anything about that, either!)... so the earliest election that I can remember something about was the '88 election, when George H. Bush was elected.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 09/04/06 at 1:10 am

I was 4 months old during the '80 election (so I can't remember THAT, lol) ;D ...and I was 4 YEARS old during the '84 election (so I don't remember anything about that, either!)... so the earliest election that I can remember something about was the '88 election, when George H. Bush was elected.

Yeah, I was 5 during the '92 election. The only reason I really remember that one was because they talked about it a bit in school leading up to it.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: nally on 09/04/06 at 1:13 am

Yeah, I was 5 during the '92 election. The only reason I really remember that one was because they talked about it a bit in school leading up to it.

That makes sense. ;)

I was 12 at the time, and in 7th grade...and my class talked a great deal about it. We even watched a tape of the debates on TV.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: saver on 09/04/06 at 2:45 am

Whether it's a child of the 90's or 00's after the 80's I tell kids: give it up, everything has been invented!

Now just go online and you will find it, I thought I had an idea for a cute book and go online to find a whole association that has pamphlets and workbooks on the subject! What the heck more can I do that they haven't thought of???

I'm going back to sleep..zzzzzzzzzzz :(

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 09/04/06 at 6:05 pm

Just teasing ya, Chris!! lol I understand.

No worries. LOL, I guess I didn't have much of a life in the 80s beyond playing a few sports, that's why the early 90s and beyond were, more fun for me. :D

I think I should have born in 1967 or 1968, that way I would way I would have been 15 in 1983. ;)

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Tanya1976 on 09/05/06 at 4:27 am

No worries. LOL, I guess I didn't have much of a life in the 80s beyond playing a few sports, that's why the early 90s and beyond were, more fun for me. :D

I think I should have born in 1967 or 1968, that way I would way I would have been 15 in 1983. ;)

LOL I can understand, but then you'd be hitting 40 next year!

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 09/05/06 at 4:37 am

While we're on the subject, I used to (and, to a small extent still do) kinda wish I was born around 1971-'73.

Being 15 or 16 when Bon Jovi and ripped jeans were huge in 1987 (sorta the last year that totally screamed "80s") seemed like it would've been fun. I had a few babysitters as a kid who were around this age, so I got a pretty good grasp on what it was like firsthand. I was old enough to get the feel of it, but even then, I was a little jealous of the teens who were getting to really "experience" it.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 09/06/06 at 12:07 am

While we're on the subject, I used to (and, to a small extent still do) kinda wish I was born around 1971-'73.

Being 15 or 16 when Bon Jovi and ripped jeans were huge in 1987 (sorta the last year that totally screamed "80s") seemed like it would've been fun. I had a few babysitters as a kid who were around this age, so I got a pretty good grasp on what it was like firsthand. I was old enough to get the feel of it, but even then, I was a little jealous of the teens who were getting to really "experience" it.

Yeah, it would've been pretty neat to be a teen in the '80s. I sometimes wish I was born in around 1946 or so. I think it would've been really neat to be a teen in the '60s.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 09/06/06 at 2:09 am

I think what Chris is saying about him and the '80s/'90s applied to my parents about the '60s/'70s. They were also born in the '5 year, in their case 1955, and no question preferred the '60s, but actually did stuff like driving around and going to discos and dating and college parties in the '70s.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Roadgeek on 09/06/06 at 1:17 pm

I think what Chris is saying about him and the '80s/'90s applied to my parents about the '60s/'70s. They were also born in the '5 year, in their case 1955, and no question preferred the '60s, but actually did stuff like driving around and going to discos and dating and college parties in the '70s.

My dad was born in 1949 and my mom was born in 1955. My dad and I share the "9" in our birth years. My dad was a child of the '50s and '60s and a teen of the '60s. My mom is the ultimate kid of the '60s and the ultimate teen of the early '70s.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 09/07/06 at 9:28 am

I think what Chris is saying about him and the '80s/'90s applied to my parents about the '60s/'70s. They were also born in the '5 year, in their case 1955, and no question preferred the '60s, but actually did stuff like driving around and going to discos and dating and college parties in the '70s.

The exception to that seem to be people born in 1965, I've never met anyone born in '65 that said they are 70s people. They always say they are 80s, and no one ever really questions them on it.

Did I ever mention that I've met a few people older then me that told me I was too young to say I was part of the 80s? Sounds silly, but it's happend. I think everyone is the sum of two decades.

Now I do think us people born in the mid part of a decade are lucky to experience two decades, but the downside can be that there will often be debate by those firmly entrenched in one decade on where you fit in. You probably have to clock in about 5 years as an under 18 minor/high school to be seen as one of the real teens of a decade, I only served 3 years as an under 18 minor in the 90s before I graduated in '93.

But then years ago I remember some people older then me said I was too young to be 80s. Strangely I don't think they would ever exclude people my age from the 80s today, they are pushing 40 or already crossed it, and they probably would welcome younger members into the 80s club, lol. (they had the attitude when they were still 20 somethings and I was around 19)

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: velvetoneo on 09/07/06 at 6:33 pm

The exception to that seem to be people born in 1965, I've never met anyone born in '65 that said they are 70s people. They always say they are 80s, and no one ever really questions them on it.

Did I ever mention that I've met a few people older then me that told me I was too young to say I was part of the 80s? Sounds silly, but it's happend. I think everyone is the sum of two decades.

Now I do think us people born in the mid part of a decade are lucky to experience two decades, but the downside can be that there will often be debate by those firmly entrenched in one decade on where you fit in. You probably have to clock in about 5 years as an under 18 minor/high school to be seen as one of the real teens of a decade, I only served 3 years as an under 18 minor in the 90s before I graduated in '93.

But then years ago I remember some people older then me said I was too young to be 80s. Strangely I don't think they would ever exclude people my age from the 80s today, they are pushing 40 or already crossed it, and they probably would welcome younger members into the 80s club, lol. (they had the attitude when they were still 20 somethings and I was around 19)

Yeah...for example, my '55er parents were too young to be real '60s people and only spent a few years in the '70s in high school, not quite enough to be getting into the Dazed and Confused era. I think it's spending about four or so years as a 13-18 year old to REALLY be a child of the decade. I wonder what the thing about the 1965ers and being part of the '80s is...some of it has to do with being in high school during the MTV era and being too young for disco culture in the late '70s, which you had to be much older to really experience in any meaningful way. By '67, you meet very firmly entrenched '80s people. My experience with '85ers seems to be that they are sort of "in between" the '90s and '00s people. They're more "Y2K era" teenagers, the same way somebody born in '75 is a "Berlin Wall/Saved by the Bell" era teenager. Like a 1985er could like nu metal and glam rap and teen pop, but not grunge or emo, if you know what I'm saying.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: ultraviolet52 on 09/07/06 at 7:53 pm

While we're on the subject, I used to (and, to a small extent still do) kinda wish I was born around 1971-'73.

Being 15 or 16 when Bon Jovi and ripped jeans were huge in 1987 (sorta the last year that totally screamed "80s") seemed like it would've been fun. I had a few babysitters as a kid who were around this age, so I got a pretty good grasp on what it was like firsthand. I was old enough to get the feel of it, but even then, I was a little jealous of the teens who were getting to really "experience" it.

I also had babysitters who were born around this time frame, and some of them were male. One time one male babysitter was baby sitting my brother and I and he wanted to see what my room looked like and he started being "funny" with my Barbie and Ken dolls and I told him to STOP! ;D

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 09/08/06 at 1:20 am

I also had babysitters who were born around this time frame, and some of them were male. One time one male babysitter was baby sitting my brother and I and he wanted to see what my room looked like and he started being "funny" with my Barbie and Ken dolls and I told him to STOP! ;D

That guy sounded fun in a silly way. ;D

The 'sitters I usually had were in two different camps. One was guys we'd gotten acquainted with at the local supermarket (Rohnert Park, the town I lived in at the time was suburban, but "small townish" compared to a metropolitan area, so that type of thing was more common). They tended to be, like 22 or so - I usually dug it when they watched me. We'd play video games together or miniature golfing, stuff like that.

Then I had sorta the reverse of what you did: teenage chicks from the neighborhood who were around 15. I was usually speechless and less comfortable with them, but that's because I had crushes (well as much as a 6-year old kid could have anyway, lol). I'd often stay in my room when they were watching me. However, I always felt a little guilty once I'd overheard one of them telling my parents she didn't think I liked her -- mistaking my not taling to her as dislike (although she was nice and easygoing about it). :(

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 09/08/06 at 1:25 am

Yeah...for example, my '55er parents were too young to be real '60s people and only spent a few years in the '70s in high school, not quite enough to be getting into the Dazed and Confused era. I think it's spending about four or so years as a 13-18 year old to REALLY be a child of the decade. I wonder what the thing about the 1965ers and being part of the '80s is...some of it has to do with being in high school during the MTV era and being too young for disco culture in the late '70s, which you had to be much older to really experience in any meaningful way. By '67, you meet very firmly entrenched '80s people. My experience with '85ers seems to be that they are sort of "in between" the '90s and '00s people. They're more "Y2K era" teenagers, the same way somebody born in '75 is a "Berlin Wall/Saved by the Bell" era teenager. Like a 1985er could like nu metal and glam rap and teen pop, but not grunge or emo, if you know what I'm saying.

Yeah, in short, I think the differences between what a typical 1965er and 1975er likes has to do with the '70s being a little more "adult oriented". Not that there wasn't kid stuff too (toys like Strech Armstrong or pinball machines. Kids were also into KISS then), but the bulk of what was cool centered more on nightlife and going to Discos. So perhaps kids and younger teens weren't as eager to be a part of it.

Whereas a 1975er like Chris, would've had endless amounts of cool stuff in the '80s to choose from (I know he's said that was his true "home" time). That was the first time I think pop culture began to heavily center on kids with MTV and video games for instance - even if it appealed to older people quite a bit too.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 09/08/06 at 1:48 am

Yeah...for example, my '55er parents were too young to be real '60s people and only spent a few years in the '70s in high school, not quite enough to be getting into the Dazed and Confused era. I think it's spending about four or so years as a 13-18 year old to REALLY be a child of the decade. I wonder what the thing about the 1965ers and being part of the '80s is...some of it has to do with being in high school during the MTV era and being too young for disco culture in the late '70s, which you had to be much older to really experience in any meaningful way. By '67, you meet very firmly entrenched '80s people. My experience with '85ers seems to be that they are sort of "in between" the '90s and '00s people. They're more "Y2K era" teenagers, the same way somebody born in '75 is a "Berlin Wall/Saved by the Bell" era teenager. Like a 1985er could like nu metal and glam rap and teen pop, but not grunge or emo, if you know what I'm saying.

Yeah, people born in the '5' year tend to be split on that. Like one person born in '85 might like more late '90s stuff(like grunge or Y2K era teen pop), but another '85er might be more into the '00s stuff. I could see how someone like Chris might identify more with the '80s than the '90s though. When he was 15 in 1990 alot of '80s stuff was still very popular. That was the case even going into 1993 when he graduated high school.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 09/09/06 at 3:49 pm

Yeah, people born in the '5' year tend to be split on that. Like one person born in '85 might like more late '90s stuff(like grunge or Y2K era teen pop), but another '85er might be more into the '00s stuff. I could see how someone like Chris might identify more with the '80s than the '90s though. When he was 15 in 1990 alot of '80s stuff was still very popular. That was the case even going into 1993 when he graduated high school.

I know it has probably changed alot since the late '90s when I first started making these observations about them. But nowadays, it seems 1985ers are split about half and half. Like they're into what's popular now and they'll definitely be called '00s people as time goes on, but they're a bit old school and have some decent amount of '90s kid memories too. Sometimes they're even quite into the '80s (I know three '85ers offhand who love Michael Jackson's old stuff and hair metal, and like to dress '80s, etc).

But I'd still bet there's more 1985er fans of Emo culture than 1975er Grunge culture fans.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Roadgeek on 09/09/06 at 4:36 pm

I also think an '89 born baby would be a kid of the mid and late '90s and a teen of the '00s. However, I'm a kid of the mid '90s and will always be a kid of the mid '90s!

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: deadrockstar on 09/10/06 at 12:54 am

I also think an '89 born baby would be a kid of the mid and late '90s and a teen of the '00s. However, I'm a kid of the mid '90s and will always be a kid of the mid '90s!

Yeah, I was born in '88 and I'm essentially a kid of the mid 90s. Dinosaur toys, power rangers(LOL!), Nick cartoons like Rocco's Modern Life and Ahh! Real Monsters, Super NES, All That, Sega Channel, Batman: The Animated Series- those are all things I remember from my childhood in that time period. By the late 90s when stuff like Spongebob Squarepants and a lot of anime started up, I was moving away from being a kid. I wasn't quite an adolescent until the early 00's, it was like a tweener stage. But neverthless I have much less nostalgia attached to the late 90s than the mid 90s.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 09/10/06 at 1:02 am

Yeah, I was born in '88 and I'm essentially a kid of the mid 90s. Dinosaur toys, power rangers(LOL!), Nick cartoons like Rocco's Modern Life and Ahh! Real Monsters, Super NES, All That, Sega Channel, Batman: The Animated Series- those are all things I remember from my childhood in that time period. By the late 90s when stuff like Spongebob Squarepants and a lot of anime started up, I was moving away from being a kid. I wasn't quite an adolescent until the early 00's, it was like a tweener stage. But neverthless I have much less nostalgia attached to the late 90s than the mid 90s.

Yeah, I agree. I was born in '87 and I think my peak kid years were about 1993-1997. I can remember all that mid-'90s stuff in great detail.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 09/10/06 at 11:16 am

I know it has probably changed alot since the late '90s when I first started making these observations about them. But nowadays, it seems 1985ers are split about half and half. Like they're into what's popular now and they'll definitely be called '00s people as time goes on, but they're a bit old school and have some decent amount of '90s kid memories too. Sometimes they're even quite into the '80s (I know three '85ers offhand who love Michael Jackson's old stuff and hair metal, and like to dress '80s, etc).

I wouldn't know the exact details of this age group (born in 1985), but from my limited interactiion with them I do know those kids have definately gotten older that's for sure. More mature then a few years ago. I'm not sure if I should even call them kids anymore, but from my perspective they always were kids. I mean when you got 10 years on someone...

But I'd still bet there's more 1985er fans of Emo culture than 1975er Grunge culture fans.

I think, some of that, or maybey a lot of it, has to do with the pop culture making such a HARD SHIFT when I was high school. What was popular in the fall of 1989 was drastically different from what was popular in the spring of 1993. So much had changed in 4 years. So much. That kind of drastic change didn't happen b/w the fall of 1999 and the spring of 2003. So while the high school grads of 1983 love the 80s and the grads of 2003 may love whatever, I think my class of 1993 tended to have a feeling of "displacement", if that's the right word.

Despite still being high school kids, perhaps many my age felt a longing for the 80s, or actually felt cheated out of the 1980s. Since the party was over when we arrived. I used to have a friend that always felt cheated out of true teenage life in the 80s, not early 90s life, which actually was a lot more different then you may realize. There was a real division my senior year of 1992-'93, b/w people that liked the new grunge culture and those that just despised it. Now you will meet a lot of people my age that are fans of the old grunge bands like Nirvana and Pearl Jam, the ones from the early 90s, but not so much the stuff from the later 90s. It was like 60-40, on prefering the 80s over the 90s. But that doesn't mean people just refused to be a part of the 90s. Like I have said many times before, I really did like the 90s.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Roadgeek on 09/10/06 at 12:37 pm

Yeah, I was born in '88 and I'm essentially a kid of the mid 90s. Dinosaur toys, power rangers(LOL!), Nick cartoons like Rocco's Modern Life and Ahh! Real Monsters, Super NES, All That, Sega Channel, Batman: The Animated Series- those are all things I remember from my childhood in that time period. By the late 90s when stuff like Spongebob Squarepants and a lot of anime started up, I was moving away from being a kid. I wasn't quite an adolescent until the early 00's, it was like a tweener stage. But neverthless I have much less nostalgia attached to the late 90s than the mid 90s.

I agree. I turned 10 in November of 1999. Now I agree that yes the late '90s were better than the mid '00s, but the late '90s doesn't have that special feel and nostalgia of the early and mid '90s.

Subject: Re: Child/Teen of the '90s

Written By: Marty McFly on 09/10/06 at 6:13 pm

I wouldn't know the exact details of this age group (born in 1985), but from my limited interactiion with them I do know those kids have definately gotten older that's for sure. More mature then a few years ago. I'm not sure if I should even call them kids anymore, but from my perspective they always were kids. I mean when you got 10 years on someone...

True, I've always drawn the line around 10-12 years with me, too. Anyone within that range is pretty much sibling-like, but when you start getting to mid '90s babies, I can see what you mean about them always seeming like kids. Although one of my cousins is a 1993er and, to me, she's sorta on the fence between the two.

I think, some of that, or maybey a lot of it, has to do with the pop culture making such a HARD SHIFT when I was high school. What was popular in the fall of 1989 was drastically different from what was popular in the spring of 1993. So much had changed in 4 years. So much. That kind of drastic change didn't happen b/w the fall of 1999 and the spring of 2003. So while the high school grads of 1983 love the 80s and the grads of 2003 may love whatever, I think my class of 1993 tended to have a feeling of "displacement", if that's the right word.

Despite still being high school kids, perhaps many my age felt a longing for the 80s, or actually felt cheated out of the 1980s. Since the party was over when we arrived. I used to have a friend that always felt cheated out of true teenage life in the 80s, not early 90s life, which actually was a lot more different then you may realize. There was a real division my senior year of 1992-'93, b/w people that liked the new grunge culture and those that just despised it. Now you will meet a lot of people my age that are fans of the old grunge bands like Nirvana and Pearl Jam, the ones from the early 90s, but not so much the stuff from the later 90s. It was like 60-40, on prefering the 80s over the 90s. But that doesn't mean people just refused to be a part of the 90s. Like I have said many times before, I really did like the 90s.

Definitely. Things that were hugely popular in 1990 were yesterday's news by 1993. Especially in the rock world. Although some of the quasi '80s pop acts like Wilson Philips were, too.

Grunge is such an odd thing with me. I think I'm somewhere right down the middle. In a way, I resented the fact that it wiped out synthpop, hair metal and the '80s rocker culture in general. However, I was always at least a mild fan of some of the early grunge songs like "Come as You Are". I was a fan in the sense that I'd tape those songs if they were on the radio or bought the cassette singles (remember those? ;) ), but I didn't love it to death, either.

I do get the impression that people about the age you are, are sorta like myself in the sense of being imprinted by the '80s as kids/young teens, but weren't entirely cold on the '90s either. Although some of it probably caught you guys "off guard" too (i.e. being 12 around 1987 and wanting to experience something similar when you got to be 18, only to have it change really hard by then).

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