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Subject: The '90s Are Fragmented Like the '70s
Written By: velvetoneo on 04/19/06 at 8:34 pm
I was talking with Donnie in one of the '00s board threads earlier about how alot of things can be pigeonholed very specifically to a certain period of the '90s, but not as much to the whole decade. I think the '70s are like this too, even if alot of things stayed cool through the whole decade. Like disco is very pigeonholed to the late 1975-mid 1979 period (centering around 1976-1978), the John Denver and Jim Croce kind of folk-pop is very able to be pigeonholed to the mid-'70s, Philadelphia soul is sort of 1973, glam rock is very 1972 (Gary Glitter, early David Bowie)...
Subject: Re: The '90s Are Fragmented Like the '70s
Written By: jersey_bwoy2078 on 04/19/06 at 8:50 pm
The next decade will be very interesting if it brings back the '90s(70's)..... ???
Subject: Re: The '90s Are Fragmented Like the '70s
Written By: velvetoneo on 04/19/06 at 9:07 pm
The next decade will be very interesting if it brings back the '90s(70's)..... ???
I think it will...maybe it'll bring back the '70s...
Subject: Re: The '90s Are Fragmented Like the '70s
Written By: jersey_bwoy2078 on 04/20/06 at 8:42 am
I think it will...maybe it'll bring back the '70s...
Just think at how much BIGGER bell bottoms will be....lmmfao ;D! Just listen to Dennis Leary, and you'll know what I mean.
Subject: Re: The '90s Are Fragmented Like the '70s
Written By: Donnie Darko on 04/20/06 at 2:10 pm
I agree. The '70s are hard to define, because they have different epochs.
Basically, you have 1970-71, which is tied to the late 1960s, then 1972-1974, which post-hippie, but pre-disco and home to classic rock and such, and then there's the honest-to-God "Seventies" that is the 1976-1978 Disco era. Then 1979 and even 1980 are like '70s, but heading toward '80s.
Subject: Re: The '90s Are Fragmented Like the '70s
Written By: velvetoneo on 04/20/06 at 2:39 pm
I agree. The '70s are hard to define, because they have different epochs.
Basically, you have 1970-71, which is tied to the late 1960s, then 1972-1974, which post-hippie, but pre-disco and home to classic rock and such, and then there's the honest-to-God "Seventies" that is the 1976-1978 Disco era. Then 1979 and even 1980 are like '70s, but heading toward '80s.
I think mid-1971 was the beginning of the "Tony Orlando '70s", which were still influenced by the '60s ethos on a personal level but were quite a different decade pop culturally. It was home to classic rock, TV like All in the Family, bad fashion and interior decoration, Southern rock, early prog rock, Donny Osmond and the Carpenters, bad folkpop like Harry Chapin and John Denver, funk, early heavy metal, Philadelphia soul, and stuff like Cher, Roberta Flack, Stevie Wonder, and Dawn. And heavy marijuana consumption. In that way it was still tied to the '60s, but it was definitely a different decade. Around 1976, the whole peak '70s, Star Wars/Rocky/Annie Hall, "Loveboat", disco era started, which ended in the middle of 1979.
Subject: Re: The '90s Are Fragmented Like the '70s
Written By: sonikuu on 04/20/06 at 6:04 pm
This sounds kind of like my belief that each decade has epochs. Anyway, the 90s definitely are fragmented, as is every decade. Unlike previous decades though, the 90s morphed from one extreme to the other. We gradually transitioned from the dark Grunge and Gangsta Rap environment of the late 1991-1994 period toward the campy (and quite outdated) pop music of the late 90s. The difference between 1993 and 1999 is definitely greater than the difference between 1983 and 1989.
Subject: Re: The '90s Are Fragmented Like the '70s
Written By: velvetoneo on 04/20/06 at 6:07 pm
This sounds kind of like my belief that each decade has epochs. Anyway, the 90s definitely are fragmented, as is every decade. Unlike previous decades though, the 90s morphed from one extreme to the other. We gradually transitioned from the dark Grunge and Gangsta Rap environment of the late 1991-1994 period toward the campy (and quite outdated) pop music of the late 90s. The difference between 1993 and 1999 is definitely greater than the difference between 1983 and 1989.
Yeah, that's true. But the '90s and '70s were more heavily fragmented, by far, than the '80s or '00s.
Subject: Re: The '90s Are Fragmented Like the '70s
Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 04/20/06 at 6:56 pm
Yeah, that's true. But the '90s and '70s were more heavily fragmented, by far, than the '80s or '00s.
Defidently. From beginning to end the 70's and 90's seemed like different decades but the 80's didn't change dramatically from beginning to end and neither did the 00's.
Subject: Re: The '90s Are Fragmented Like the '70s
Written By: velvetoneo on 04/20/06 at 7:38 pm
Defidently. From beginning to end the 70's and 90's seemed like different decades but the 80's didn't change dramatically from beginning to end and neither did the 00's.
The '80s and '00s have had more subtle changes, with a network of brief fads that fit into the picture of the decade as a whole. There were subtle, slow changes through the '80s, like the replacement of synthpop with hair metal, pop/"soft rock" (soft rock was huge in the late '80s), and R&B, but it was pretty slow in terms of the overall picture...
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