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Subject: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: 1993 on 03/16/06 at 9:58 pm

I'm pretty certain the goatee is something that returned exclusively in the 90's, I don't remember it ever being popular in the 80's. In the 70's and 60's you had some long, shaggy growths, but usually they were moustache's, full beards, or the fu man chu stache...not goatees. The 20's-30's-40's-50's were all super clean shaven for the most part. I believe Taft was the last President to even have facial hair. So the goatee came back from an era pre dates even the 1900's.

The mullet is sort of a tweener in my eye. It wasn't popular early 80's, crept into the culture in the mid to late 80's. I think it probably reached its peak around 89-90 when boys would actually grow "rat tails" down the back. Imagine a crew cut with a long rat tail down between the shoulder blades...I saw it all. Mullets were still acceptable probably up until 1994, I even remember seeing some in 1995, but by then the longish bowl haircut with the part down the middle started to take command.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Donnie Darko on 03/16/06 at 11:14 pm

Mullets: Late '70s - 1994
Goatees: Early/Mid '90s - early/mid '00s

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Marty McFly on 03/17/06 at 2:55 am

I think mullets started getting popular around 1982, but you're right, the late '80s always seemed more synonymous with them (i.e. people often rag on Richard Marx - who peaked around 1987-91 - for having a mullet and being a "soft rocker"). ;D

"Straight" mustaches (i.e. think Alex Trebek on Jeopardy, until he shaved it off recently) do seem like an '80s thing. Alof of guys had them, especially without having any other kind of facial hair.

I'd also agree on goatees.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: twistedwarp on 03/17/06 at 7:52 pm

lmao at mullets being 90's things... there like 80's things and goatees they are still around but not as much ..

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: whistledog on 03/17/06 at 8:15 pm

I once got in an argument with a guy over at The 80s Server who was convinced that Mullets were a 90's thing.  They date back to the 70's, and I even gave him proof, but he still wouldn't believe ;D

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 03/18/06 at 12:25 am


I'm pretty certain the goatee is something that returned exclusively in the 90's, I don't remember it ever being popular in the 80's. In the 70's and 60's you had some long, shaggy growths, but usually they were moustache's, full beards, or the fu man chu stache...not goatees. The 20's-30's-40's-50's were all super clean shaven for the most part. I believe Taft was the last President to even have facial hair. So the goatee came back from an era pre dates even the 1900's.

The mullet is sort of a tweener in my eye. It wasn't popular early 80's, crept into the culture in the mid to late 80's. I think it probably reached its peak around 89-90 when boys would actually grow "rat tails" down the back. Imagine a crew cut with a long rat tail down between the shoulder blades...I saw it all. Mullets were still acceptable probably up until 1994, I even remember seeing some in 1995, but by then the longish bowl haircut with the part down the middle started to take command.


The people who had those kind of hairstyles generally came from a redneck culture.  They didn't care if they were wearing a 1982 hairstlye in 1995.   

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: velvetoneo on 03/18/06 at 2:31 pm

The '70s were the moustache decade, every guy in the '70s tried a moustache at least once (including my father, yuck, old college pictures of him) and even a beard. They sort of went out except for the Prince-style moustache in the '80s, never to really come back. Mullets are very '80s, though they survived to the early '90s and rednecks still wear that hairstyle. Goatees always struck me as a late-1991+ sort of thing that died c. 2002.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Windbreaker05 on 03/18/06 at 4:20 pm

Goatees are still alive and well.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: lorac614 on 03/18/06 at 4:23 pm

I guess you haven't been to the South lately, because the mullet is stillbeing worn by quite a few males...and some females down here.  

I guess to me the mullet was most popular in the mid 80's.  

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: deadrockstar on 03/19/06 at 12:26 am

Goatee's are actually quite trendy for guys in their late teens and 20s right now.  A lot of people have the small goatee sans mustache now.

As for mullets... I always thought of them as 70s/80s. :o

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: bbigd04 on 03/19/06 at 12:32 am

Never saw mullets around here in the '90s at all really, maybe a little bit in the early '90s.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: deadrockstar on 03/19/06 at 12:36 am


Never saw mullets around here in the '90s at all really, maybe a little bit in the early '90s.


Same here, basically.  I can remember seeing a few people with the mullet in the early 90s when I was a little kid, but not beyond that.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Watcher29 on 03/20/06 at 7:56 am


Goatees are still alive and well.


Yep. I've got one, and so far no one has given me any crap about it.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Donnie Darko on 03/23/06 at 5:27 pm


Never saw mullets around here in the '90s at all really, maybe a little bit in the early '90s.


I think of them as a pre-1994 thing.  The honest-to-God 1990s styles really began in 1994 with the Rachel cut and flooding of tattoos and body piercings, the '00s styles such as the Emo style, hoop earrings and shaggy hair didn't really begin until 2004ish.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: velvetoneo on 03/23/06 at 7:01 pm


I think of them as a pre-1994 thing.  The honest-to-God 1990s styles really began in 1994 with the Rachel cut and flooding of tattoos and body piercings, the '00s styles such as the Emo style, hoop earrings and shaggy hair didn't really begin until 2004ish.


I think it was more the second half of 2003 that I really started noticing the '00s styles.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Donnie Darko on 03/23/06 at 7:02 pm


I think it was more the second half of 2003 that I really started noticing the '00s styles.


Yeah I'd say so.  The '90s hairstyles are pretty dead, among "cooler" people.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: velvetoneo on 03/23/06 at 7:19 pm


Yeah I'd say so.  The '90s hairstyles are pretty dead, among "cooler" people.


You still see people from about 25-40 sporting it pretty frequently, though.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Todd Pettingzoo on 03/25/06 at 7:03 am

Looking back at old TV shows, mullets still seemed very popular in the early 90's, and lots of pro wrestlers still had mullets in the mid/late 90's.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 03/25/06 at 8:39 am


I think of them as a pre-1994 thing.  The honest-to-God 1990s styles really began in 1994 with the Rachel cut and flooding of tattoos and body piercings, the '00s styles such as the Emo style, hoop earrings and shaggy hair didn't really begin until 2004ish.


That John Lennon, 60s hippie shaggy hair look that a lot of teenage boys are wearing?  Yeah, that seems pretty recent, like 2004 at the earliest.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 03/25/06 at 8:45 am


You still see people from about 25-40 sporting it pretty frequently, though.


What would be an exclusively 90s style though? 

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: danootaandme on 03/25/06 at 8:57 am


You still see people from about 25-40 sporting it pretty frequently, though.


Looking rather foolish  ::)

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: velvetoneo on 03/25/06 at 11:24 am


What would be an exclusively 90s style though? 


The Rachel haircut, the Mariah spiral perm, the "Gumby" haircut (screams early '90s, watch In Living Color), spiked hair with little blonde stuff for teen guys, the Kurt haircut.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Donnie Darko on 03/25/06 at 1:56 pm


That John Lennon, 60s hippie shaggy hair look that a lot of teenage boys are wearing?  Yeah, that seems pretty recent, like 2004 at the earliest.


Yeah, exactly.  It's such a 2005 look, based on what I've seen in movies and TV shows from the '90s nobody was wearing that.
The hoop earrings are also extremely common, I mean most '80s comebacks are really half-assed but those things are everywhere right now.


What would be an exclusively 90s style though?  


Backwards baseball caps.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: velvetoneo on 03/25/06 at 10:17 pm


Yeah, exactly.  It's such a 2005 look, based on what I've seen in movies and TV shows from the '90s nobody was wearing that.
The hoop earrings are also extremely common, I mean most '80s comebacks are really half-assed but those things are everywhere right now.

Backwards baseball caps.


Flannel
Giant Neon-Colored Sunglasses
M.C. Hammer Pants and Pants That Buckle Up the Side
Scrunchies and the "Messy Bun"
Those Little Shorts
Butterfly Clips

As I've said before, the '80s comeback is really more ethos and zeitgeist than direct plagiarism, like the '70s comeback in the '90s.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 03/26/06 at 7:29 am


Yeah, exactly.  It's such a 2005 look, based on what I've seen in movies and TV shows from the '90s nobody was wearing that.
The hoop earrings are also extremely common, I mean most '80s comebacks are really half-assed but those things are everywhere right now.


That long shaggy hair is a total late 60s-70s, even very early 80s look.  That's a style I never really thought would come back in fashion, because as cool as it can look, when it goes out of style it looks absolutely ridiculous.  Kinda like the big afro that Black men sometimes wear.  In one way it can look really cool, but it has the potential of looking really stupid when it becomes old school.  It doesn't date very well.


Backwards baseball caps.


I think people can still wear this for comfort sake.  Not necessarily as the fashion statement "hey I'm a bad ass" that it used to be. 

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Donnie Darko on 03/26/06 at 3:36 pm


That long shaggy hair is a total late 60s-70s, even very early 80s look.  That's a style I never really thought would come back in fashion, because as cool as it can look, when it goes out of style it looks absolutely ridiculous.  Kinda like the big afro that Black men sometimes wear.  In one way it can look really cool, but it has the potential of looking really stupid when it becomes old school.  It doesn't date very well.

I think people can still wear this for comfort sake.  Not necessarily as the fashion statement "hey I'm a bad ass" that it used to be. 


Yeah it's definitely a '60s and '70s style, come back, I'm guessing because of the retro indie kids.

As for backwards basecall caps, yeah I see them every once in a while.  They're definitely not a fashion statement anymore, but yeah you still can without getting a lot of looks, it's just not any cooler (in fact, probably less cool) than wearing it sideways.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Marty McFly on 03/26/06 at 4:44 pm

^ Surprisingly, I still do see quite a few people wearing backwards baseball hats out in public, from various ages too (I'd say, like no younger than 15 though, and alot of late 20/early 30s). But from my observation, it's certainly in a very "mainstream" looking sense - guys in the mall, at the grocery store or just walking around the neighborhood. I'd say it's not a "Hood" thing anymore.

Then again, I never really did it much, even in 1994 when everyone else did, so I could be wrong.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: velvetoneo on 03/26/06 at 7:19 pm


^ Surprisingly, I still do see quite a few people wearing backwards baseball hats out in public, from various ages too (I'd say, like no younger than 15 though, and alot of late 20/early 30s). But from my observation, it's certainly in a very "mainstream" looking sense - guys in the mall, at the grocery store or just walking around the neighborhood. I'd say it's not a "Hood" thing anymore.

Then again, I never really did it much, even in 1994 when everyone else did, so I could be wrong.


I wore a backwards baseball cap pretty frequently when I was like 4-8 in the '90s, which is like 1994-1998. I still see it, but it's nowhere near as prevalent as it was. Now, the thing seems to be to wear one forwards and slightly cocked upwards.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Ryan112390 on 06/08/10 at 10:15 am

Going by my own experiences and observations of culture--
Mullets were popular in various forms from the early 70s-late 80s; In the late 80s they achieved mainstream popularity in the styles we know now, not the 70s experimental mullet styles. My father had one in 1984 (combined with a horseshoe mustache), and then had from straight from 1989-1996, which is when he cut his hair.  I'd put the mid 90s as the cut off, because by the late 90s they were already being mocked in mainstream culture.;
Goatees I've noticed in movies were usually, especially in the 80s, on the face of evil guys (think ''Evil Spock'' from the 60s for example.) but sometime around 1989-1991, they began to appear on the 20 something year olds faces and were popular with Generation Xers by around 1995; I'd sayby  around 1998-1999 they became HUGE in general outside of Gen X and have been since.
The 30s, 40s, 70s and 80s were the decades of the mustache. In the 30s-40s you had hundreds of them throughout Hollywood (on the faces of Clark Gable, Ronald Coleman, Errol Flynn, Walt Disney, David Niven) but by the '50s had disappeared except on the faces of men who had had them since the '30s. In the 50s goatees were popular for some time with Beatniks and counter cultural figures but associated with Maynard Krebs by the mainstream public. In the mid 60s the mustache reappeared and by the mid 70s was the facial hair of choice for men who wished to convey a sense of authority or masculinity, and this continued into the 80s with Tom Selleck and others; Suddenly, in the 90s, the mustache became identified more with the Village People (who wore them to mock the masculinity of them) or Ned Flanders in the 90s and had a steep decline in popularity; Many who had mustaches either shaved them, or turned them into goatees.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 06/09/10 at 10:33 am

There are so many varieties of mullets.  I don't remember any of the long-short styles being called "mullets" until the late '90s.  I'm sure the term originated earlier, but I just don't remember it.  Some mullets were actually an outgrowth (NPI) of punk hairstyles, such as cutting it close on the sides and leaving it long or spiky on top -- perhaps bleaching it.  I actually DID that once in about '85.  Shortly thereafter, I saw all the dopes walking around the shopping malls with their mullets and Miami Vice 'do's.  I realized the fashion had been relegated to the redneck culture.  David Gahan from Depeche Mode insisted on his mullet for years and years, but he gets a special dispensation. 

The goatee comes and goes.  I think they tend to look a little satanic, but perhaps that's part of the allure.  What the hell, it's your facial hair, do what you want with it.  Ladies too if you got it!  Me, I'm clean-shaven.  Always preferred it that way.  Sometimes I get the three-day or five-day stubble, but that's as far as I go.

Here's one I always thought was cool:  The classic Van Dyke style!

http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/j/Vandyke%20Beard.jpg

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: tv on 06/09/10 at 5:37 pm


Yeah, exactly.  It's such a 2005 look, based on what I've seen in movies and TV shows from the '90s nobody was wearing that.
The hoop earrings are also extremely common, I mean most '80s comebacks are really half-assed but those things are everywhere right now.

Backwards baseball caps.
I think the hopped earings came back into fashion in 2001 or 2002.

On a side note I thin kthe  goatee was like 1998-till maybe 2005-2006 that it was in fashion.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Danny on 06/24/10 at 11:35 pm

I'm and 80's kid and a quite afew guys back in school (including me) wore them in various ways,some were styled to the side or middle parted and fearther or were short on top brushed back or spiked like a rocker. Afew guys kept their mostaches but wore them short and trimmed.  Goatees originated in the real late 50's-early60's with the "Beatnicks" ,ever watched old "Dobie Gillis"? Noticed his buddy "Manord"(Bob Denver-later Gilligan)? He's had one. A few things for the 60's came back in the 90's,like "That Girl" flips on the girls. Probably because of Ms. Lady Kier(DeeeLite) wore it '90 with her Go Go look. Danny

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: joeman on 06/24/10 at 11:49 pm

I'm surprised no one mentioned "Joe Dirt" yet.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 06/25/10 at 12:03 am


I'm and 80's kid and a quite afew guys back in school (including me) wore them in various ways,some were styled to the side or middle parted and fearther or were short on top brushed back or spiked like a rocker. Afew guys kept their mostaches but wore them short and trimmed.  Goatees originated in the real late 50's-early60's with the "Beatnicks" ,ever watched old "Dobie Gillis"? Noticed his buddy "Manord"(Bob Denver-later Gilligan)? He's had one. A few things for the 60's came back in the 90's,like "That Girl" flips on the girls. Probably because of Ms. Lady Kier(DeeeLite) wore it '90 with her Go Go look. Danny


But they didn't have anything like Mullet Chick in the '50s!

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Snorkpants/MulletChick.png

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Danny on 06/25/10 at 10:08 pm


But they didn't have anything like Mullet Chick in the '50s!

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Snorkpants/MulletChick.png
                                                                                                                                                Well,that would probably have been considered cool maybe with the motorcycle chicks? Danny

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: slacker on 06/25/10 at 10:40 pm

The Mullet Chick is cool  8)

and yes... I have a goatee (I've had it for years)  ;)
w/ a crew cut

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: JamieMcBain on 06/26/10 at 8:02 am

The mullet was big starting in the 70's, the goatee however was around as early as the late 60', early 70's.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Ryan112390 on 06/29/10 at 1:36 pm


There are so many varieties of mullets.  I don't remember any of the long-short styles being called "mullets" until the late '90s.  I'm sure the term originated earlier, but I just don't remember it.  Some mullets were actually an outgrowth (NPI) of punk hairstyles, such as cutting it close on the sides and leaving it long or spiky on top -- perhaps bleaching it.  I actually DID that once in about '85.  Shortly thereafter, I saw all the dopes walking around the shopping malls with their mullets and Miami Vice 'do's.  I realized the fashion had been relegated to the redneck culture.  David Gahan from Depeche Mode insisted on his mullet for years and years, but he gets a special dispensation. 

The goatee comes and goes.  I think they tend to look a little satanic, but perhaps that's part of the allure.  What the hell, it's your facial hair, do what you want with it.  Ladies too if you got it!  Me, I'm clean-shaven.  Always preferred it that way.  Sometimes I get the three-day or five-day stubble, but that's as far as I go.

Here's one I always thought was cool:  The classic Van Dyke style!

http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/j/Vandyke%20Beard.jpg


What variation of Mullet would you describe this as?
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4937/1996trip236.jpg
I've always that unlike the stereotypical mullet, this variety actually looked cool.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: slacker on 06/30/10 at 12:24 pm


The mullet was big starting in the 70's, the goatee however was around as early as the late 60', early 70's.

I think the goatee was around before that.
How about the Spanish Conquistadors of the 15th & 16th century?
I would bet it was around before even then.  ;)

I wonder when those cool conquistador helmets are going to come back in style?  8)

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 06/30/10 at 11:40 pm


I think the goatee was around before that.
How about the Spanish Conquistadors of the 15th & 16th century?
I would bet it was around before even then.  ;)

I wonder when those cool conquistador helmets are going to come back in style?  8)


Just don't braid the goatee like Snoop Dogg.  If you braid it, kids will be sneaking up to you all day asking if you know where they can score some weed.  Do you know where they can score some weed?  If you do, your civic duty is complete.  If you don't, then don't hang out with the braided goatee!
8)

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: AL-B Mk. III on 07/06/10 at 3:43 pm

I still rock a goatee.

Subject: Re: Are mullets and goatees 90's things?

Written By: Ryan112390 on 08/16/10 at 10:16 pm

I still think the goatee is fading out of popularity. It's had a steady stream of popularity since the 90s;
Mustaches had a steady stream of popularity from the 70s to the 90s; I think that like the mustache fell out of popularity in the 90s,
The goatee will fall out of popularity in the '10s.

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