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Subject: Defining the "Early Nineties"

Written By: Donnie Darko on 01/09/06 at 6:55 pm

Probably no early part of a decade gets more recognition than the early 1990s.

But what are they?  1990-1992/'93 doesn't seem satisfying, at least to me.  Often, people will talk about something from 1994, 1995, or even 1996 as the "early Nineties".

In reality, things from 1987 to 1996 have been called "early Nineties" at some point or another.  I think the Early Nineties is that part of the 1990s that is seen as a while ago rather than almost yesterday; that is post-Cold War, Nevermind and Desert Storm but pre Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, MP3s and South Park.  So basically, about 1991-1996, but centrally 1992-'94.  Also, "early '90s" can describe things caught between the Eighties and Nineties, such as MC Hammer and New Kids on the Block.

"Early Nineties" things:

Saved by the Bell (1989-1994)
Fresh Prince (1990-1996)
Rocko/Doug/Rugrats/Ren and Stimpy (1991-early '00s)
Pogs (mid '90s)
Beavis and Butt-head (1993-1997)
The Simpsons (1989-Eternity)
Grunge rock (1991-1999, remnants to present day)
Old School gangsta rap (1988-1996)
Family Matters (1989-1998)
Big, dorky glasses
Backwards baseball caps (entire '90s pretty much)
Flat top (1987-1995)
DOS operating system (80s-early '90s)
Super Nintendo (1991-1995)
Digital Watches ('80s-present)

Subject: Re: Defining the "Early Nineties"

Written By: bbigd04 on 01/09/06 at 6:58 pm


Probably no early part of a decade gets more recognition than the early 1990s.

But what are they?  1990-1992/'93 doesn't seem satisfying, at least to me.  Often, people will talk about something from 1994, 1995, or even 1996 as the "early Nineties".

In reality, things from 1987 to 1996 have been called "early Nineties" at some point or another.  I think the Early Nineties is that part of the 1990s that is seen as a while ago rather than almost yesterday; that is post-Cold War, Nevermind and Desert Storm but pre Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, MP3s and South Park.  So basically, about 1991-1996, but centrally 1992-'94.  Also, "early '90s" can describe things caught between the Eighties and Nineties, such as MC Hammer and New Kids on the Block.

"Early Nineties" things:

Saved by the Bell (1989-1994)
Fresh Prince (1990-1996)
Rocko/Doug/Rugrats/Ren and Stimpy (1991-early '00s)
Pogs (mid '90s)
Beavis and Butt-head (1993-1997)
The Simpsons (1989-Eternity)
Grunge rock (1991-1999, remnants to present day)
Old School gangsta rap (1988-1996)
Family Matters (1989-1998)
Big, dorky glasses
Backwards baseball caps (entire '90s pretty much)
Flat top (1987-1995)
DOS operating system (80s-early '90s)
Super Nintendo (1991-1995)
Digital Watches ('80s-present)




1990-1992 is the early '90s, you could throw in 88-89 as well. 1993-1996 is the mid '90s to me, with 1997-2001 being late '90s.

Subject: Re: Defining the "Early Nineties"

Written By: Donnie Darko on 01/09/06 at 7:00 pm


1990-1992 is the early '90s, you could throw in 88-89 as well. 1993-1996 is the mid '90s to me, with 1997-2001 being late '90s.


To split hairs, to me the mid '90s is the second half of 1994, the entire years of 1995 and '96, and the first half of 1997.  Pretty much the span from when Kurt Cobain shot himself to when the first episode of "South Park" aired.  But it seems like washed out early '90s-type stuff to me.

Subject: Re: Defining the "Early Nineties"

Written By: Tanya1976 on 01/09/06 at 7:02 pm


Probably no early part of a decade gets more recognition than the early 1990s.

But what are they?  1990-1992/'93 doesn't seem satisfying, at least to me.  Often, people will talk about something from 1994, 1995, or even 1996 as the "early Nineties".

In reality, things from 1987 to 1996 have been called "early Nineties" at some point or another.  I think the Early Nineties is that part of the 1990s that is seen as a while ago rather than almost yesterday; that is post-Cold War, Nevermind and Desert Storm but pre Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, MP3s and South Park.  So basically, about 1991-1996, but centrally 1992-'94.  Also, "early '90s" can describe things caught between the Eighties and Nineties, such as MC Hammer and New Kids on the Block.

"Early Nineties" things:

Saved by the Bell (1989-1994)
Fresh Prince (1990-1996)
Rocko/Doug/Rugrats/Ren and Stimpy (1991-early '00s)
Pogs (mid '90s)
Beavis and Butt-head (1993-1997)
The Simpsons (1989-Eternity)
Grunge rock (1991-1999, remnants to present day)
Old School gangsta rap (1988-1996)
Family Matters (1989-1998)
Big, dorky glasses
Backwards baseball caps (entire '90s pretty much)
Flat top (1987-1995)
DOS operating system (80s-early '90s)
Super Nintendo (1991-1995)
Digital Watches ('80s-present)




Backwards baseball caps (late 80s)

Subject: Re: Defining the "Early Nineties"

Written By: bbigd04 on 01/09/06 at 7:04 pm


To split hairs, to me the mid '90s is the second half of 1994, the entire years of 1995 and '96, and the first half of 1997.  Pretty much the span from when Kurt Cobain shot himself to when the first episode of "South Park" aired.  But it seems like washed out early '90s-type stuff to me.


1993 to me has such a different feel from '92, which is why separate them. A lot of the early '90s fashion was gone by '93. You could say 1993 is kind of a unique year in between the early and mid '90s.

Subject: Re: Defining the "Early Nineties"

Written By: Roadgeek on 01/09/06 at 7:56 pm

Here's how I see it. Late 80's would be from 1987-1991 and the early 90's would be from 1992-First half of 1995. The mid 90's would be the second half of 1995-1997. The late 90's would be from 1998-2000.

Subject: Re: Defining the "Early Nineties"

Written By: Donnie Darko on 01/10/06 at 12:15 am


1993 to me has such a different feel from '92, which is why separate them. A lot of the early '90s fashion was gone by '93. You could say 1993 is kind of a unique year in between the early and mid '90s.


That's true.  By 1993, whatever was left of the '80s was totally gone, and the Grunge and Gangsta rap bands were at their peak.  Also, 1993 is when the technology boom began to start, and Clinton was in office.

Subject: Re: Defining the "Early Nineties"

Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 01/10/06 at 10:33 am

I always saw the early 90s as being what it kinda is.  The embryonic stages of the 90s, it was a time that was "less late 80s", then actually a continuation of the late 80s.  I remember feeling a real difference between 1990 and 1989, but the thing is you kinda had to have been old enough to remember it well to know what I am talking about.  No one would dare walk around saying something like "totally radical dude!" in 1990, but how would you know these little details if you weren't old enough back then?  You wouldn't, and that is understandable. 

People in my school were not wearing the exact same 1989 fashions in 1990, but the thing is the asthetic was not vastly different from 1989 either.  It just wasn't as intensley late 80s.  So since the asthetic was sorta the same, to someone born in 1985 or 1990 they would not be able to tell a whole lot of difference between the early 90s and the late 80s because it was more of a "less 1989" time.   Which again is understandable, sometimes I couldn't tell a big difference between the early 80s and the late 70s, because there was also this vague 1979 asthetic around in the early 80s as well.  In my opinion the atmosphere and mood of 1990 and 1991 was not an 80s atmosphere at all, but there was still this vague late 80s look still around.  Some girls still held onto big hair, some dudes still held onto mullets.  Some people still held onto neon clothes.  And all of this is what trips people up about the early 1990s.  Again it was more like "less 1989" and also the early early stages of what would be the 90s.  But it wasn't as 90s 90s as say 1996 with girls wearing Rachel haircuts and guys wearing baggy pants.  But from my memory, it wasn't the same feeling of what 1988 was.  If you are watching a TV show or movie that has this 80s look to it, but not really, then it probably is from the early 90s. 

I guess my opinion would be (by pop culture and political events, not actual timeline):

Early 90s: 1990-the early part of 1993
Mid 90s: second half of 1993- to the early part of 1996
Late 90s: second half of 1996 to 1999/2000.
 

Subject: Re: Defining the "Early Nineties"

Written By: Donnie Darko on 01/10/06 at 11:27 am


I always saw the early 90s as being what it kinda is.  The embryonic stages of the 90s, it was a time that was "less late 80s", then actually a continuation of the late 80s.  I remember feeling a real difference between 1990 and 1989, but the thing is you kinda had to have been old enough to remember it well to know what I am talking about.  No one would dare walk around saying something like "totally radical dude!" in 1990, but how would you know these little details if you weren't old enough back then?  You wouldn't, and that is understandable. 

People in my school were not wearing the exact same 1989 fashions in 1990, but the thing is the asthetic was not vastly different from 1989 either.  It just wasn't as intensley late 80s.  So since the asthetic was sorta the same, to someone born in 1985 or 1990 they would not be able to tell a whole lot of difference between the early 90s and the late 80s because it was more of a "less 1989" time.   Which again is understandable, sometimes I couldn't tell a big difference between the early 80s and the late 70s, because there was also this vague 1979 asthetic around in the early 80s as well.  In my opinion the atmosphere and mood of 1990 and 1991 was not an 80s atmosphere at all, but there was still this vague late 80s look still around.  Some girls still held onto big hair, some dudes still held onto mullets.  Some people still held onto neon clothes.  And all of this is what trips people up about the early 1990s.  Again it was more like "less 1989" and also the early early stages of what would be the 90s.  But it wasn't as 90s 90s as say 1996 with girls wearing Rachel haircuts and guys wearing baggy pants.  But from my memory, it wasn't the same feeling of what 1988 was.  If you are watching a TV show or movie that has this 80s look to it, but not really, then it probably is from the early 90s. 

I guess my opinion would be (by pop culture and political events, not actual timeline):

Early 90s: 1990-the early part of 1993
Mid 90s: second half of 1993- to the early part of 1996
Late 90s: second half of 1996 to 1999/2000.
 


Actually, I see what you mean about 1990, based on my experience with 1999 and 2000.  1999, while definitely a year giving a taste of the 2000s, still felt vaguely like the real 1990s, whereas 2000 felt more pseudo-90s like every year since has.  But neither year was hugely different from another, and I still see 2001 as being the "true" 90s/2000s divisor.

Megatron, so on the flip side, were there people in 1990, '91, and even 1989 wearing Flannel and super-straight hair? 


Subject: Re: Defining the "Early Nineties"

Written By: Chris MegatronTHX on 01/12/06 at 11:39 am

^Not in 1989, not as far as I can remember.  That really began in 1991, fall 1991. 

Subject: Re: Defining the "Early Nineties"

Written By: JDeeOfV on 01/12/06 at 3:21 pm

i like to go by 90-92 as the early 90s,

93-94, early/mid
95-96 mid/late
or all 4 years as the mid 90s.

97-99 as the late 90s

this is strictly without respect to the pop culture.

pop culturally id start the 90s truly sometime between late 91/mid 92 and end between late 00-mid 01.

Subject: Re: Defining the "Early Nineties"

Written By: Dominic L. on 01/12/06 at 11:20 pm

Ah, DOS.... I remember that...


man, I miss it!

Subject: Re: Defining the "Early Nineties"

Written By: deadrockstar on 01/13/06 at 3:02 pm

When I think of the early 90s I think of N.W.A., MC Hammer, and Nirvana as far as music goes. Sonic Youth too. I also think of shows like Saved By The Bell and The Simpsons, and as far as videogames Mortal Kombat(1992) comes to mind. 1990 had a psuedo-80s thing going, imo. The "early 90s" to me, if you are talking about the real 90s, would be 1991 and 1992. I consider 1993-1996 to be the "mid-90s", 1997-1999 are what I would call the late 90s(even though 99 was actually only psuedo-90s in a way).

Subject: Re: Defining the "Early Nineties"

Written By: Donnie Darko on 01/13/06 at 3:52 pm


When I think of the early 90s I think of N.W.A., MC Hammer, and Nirvana as far as music goes. Sonic Youth too. I also think of shows like Saved By The Bell and The Simpsons, and as far as videogames Mortal Kombat(1992) comes to mind. 1990 had a psuedo-80s thing going, imo. The "early 90s" to me, if you are talking about the real 90s, would be 1991 and 1992. I consider 1993-1996 to be the "mid-90s", 1997-1999 are what I would call the late 90s(even though 99 was actually only psuedo-90s in a way).




'90 is pseudo-80s, and 1999-2006+ (but especially '99-'01) is pseudo '90s.  1991-1998 is like the real '90s.

Although MC Hammer and NWA were around beginning in 1987 and 1989-'90, respectively (Hammer first appeared right around the '80s-'90s mark, so whether he actually debuted in 1989 or 1990 is debatable).

Actually, in many ways MC Hammer himself was pseudo-80s.

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