Which of these three wrestling organizations kicked a** in the 90's?

I pick WCW....Why...Coz of stuff like "Monday Nitro"..."War Games/The Match Beyond"...and of course the NWO who always stirred up s*it....

Second would be EC F*n' W....which was out of my area,Philly actually,where the infamous ECW Arena was...Crazy loons like the Dudley Boyz,Sabu,"The Franchise"(Shane Douglas)...and of course the infamous try at a hostile takeover of the WWF by the same nutcases...

WWF, It was good during the 80's - early mid 90's.... now I am not a big fan as much anymore.

Hmmm . . . Another wrestling thread?  ???

My opinion? ECW made the most progress in the 90s.

I think it was WWF and a little bit of WCW.they were good for the most part,till they both went downhill. ::)


Howard

I went betweenand enjoyed all three.

I remember when The WWF ruled at one time.I think it was the early 90's but then they went downhill with all those stupid gimmicks. ::)



Howard

The WWF was great up until the early 90's when they started to boot out all the classic guys like Hogan, Macho Man, etc...  They tried to give the show a younger feeling......
That when they started pumping Bret Hart, HBK, etc..... I thought that sucked.

So, I switched the WCW...and when the nWo came out, I was back in wrestling heaven.
But of course, all good things must come to an end.

My affiliation with WCW ended when I actually coughed up money for a PPV to see Jay Leno in the main event.

I jumped back to WWF and have been with them ever since.

WWF most definitely, speaking of wrestling anyone remember GLOW wrestling?

WWF most definitely, speaking of wrestling anyone remember GLOW wrestling?


Yes,I do. and here is a picture of Ivory(Tina Moretti) 1986

http://www.tvparty.com/bgifs7/tinaferari.jpg


Howard

The WWF was great up until the early 90's when they started to boot out all the classic guys like Hogan, Macho Man, etc...  They tried to give the show a younger feeling......
That when they started pumping Bret Hart, HBK, etc..... I thought that sucked.


I noticed that most of the stalwarts of the WWF left in 1992 for one reason or another (Greg Valentine, Hercules, Haku, Texas Tornado, Tito Santana (El Matador), Barbarian, Jake 'the snake' Roberts, 'Rowdy' Roddy Piper, Warlord and 'Superfly' Jimmy Snuka). This left the WWF with a gaping whole in their wrestling rosta. It showed at Royal Rumble 1993 and Wrestlemania 9!

So, I switched the WCW...and when the nWo came out, I was back in wrestling heaven.
But of course, all good things must come to an end.

I was never interested in the NWO. To me, it illustrated everything that has gone wrong with wrestling since.

My affiliation with WCW ended when I actually coughed up money for a PPV to see Jay Leno in the main event.

I could imagine you feeling ripped off by that. Celebrities wrestling in matches should never be allowed (David Arquette anyone?)

I jumped back to WWF and have been with them ever since.

We haven't had much of a choice since everything else went bankrupt. Though, if you can, watch a bit of Ring of Honor or NOAH Japanese wrestling - great stuff.  :)

I don't understand why WWF had to create such dumb gimmcks such as Berzerker,Saba Simba,I.R.S.,The Sultan,Goon,Max Moon & T.L.Hopper.I mean some of these people were 80's wrestlers and then Vince later changed their persona around so fans wouldn't have a clue who in the hell they even were.I think that's why WWF went downhill from there. ::)


Howard

I don't understand why WWF had to create such dumb gimmcks such as Berzerker,Saba Simba,I.R.S.,The Sultan,Goon,Max Moon & T.L.Hopper.I mean some of these people were 80's wrestlers and then Vince later changed their persona around so fans wouldn't have a clue who in the hell they even were.I think that's why WWF went downhill from there. ::)


I think Vince was looking for a shortcut formula and it wasn't working out for him (like it isn't now) and that is, because it seems as if he has lost faith in his workers. It's like TV executives that only use a pilot episode to work out whether a series is going to be a success or not.

T.L Hopper didn't last very long at all (about the same time as The Goon).

I think Vince was looking for a shortcut formula and it wasn't working out for him (like it isn't now) and that is, because it seems as if he has lost faith in his workers. It's like TV executives that only use a pilot episode to work out whether a series is going to be a success or not.

T.L Hopper didn't last very long at all (about the same time as The Goon).



I know but why change a wrestler into clownish characters like T.L.Hopper(The Wrestling Plumber) ::) Or The Goon(a mad hockey player)?
or Repo Man(a guy who steals your things and reposesses it for his own) ::)


Howard

I know but why change a wrestler into clownish characters like T.L.Hopper(The Wrestling Plumber) ::) Or The Goon(a mad hockey player)?
or Repo Man(a guy who steals your things and reposesses it for his own) ::)


I had just answered this, Howard. The WWE were using a formula that wasn't working for them anymore.

I had just answered this, Howard. The WWE were using a formula that wasn't working for them anymore.


Oh Ok,I see.thanks. ;D



Howard

WWF most definitely, speaking of wrestling anyone remember GLOW wrestling?


I used to sneak downstairs everynight to try and watch Saturday Night's Main Event and for some reason, my retardedness most likely, I always ended up catching G.L.O.W until 3:00am.  My Mom or Dad would litterally have to wake up every Sunday Morning at 2:00am - 3:00am, walk downstairs, and yell at me to go to bed.

Needless to say I would try and sneak back down.  This only happened a few times as the repercussions were pretty heavy and unwanted.

Now that I think about it, was SNME on Friday or something like Saturday Night Live?  That always pissed me of.

WCW ruled at one time but it turned to garbage after a while. :P



Howard

I got in to wrestling with the WWF.. i came in at the end of the Hogan era so never really felt an attachment to him. HBK, Bret Hart, those were my guys. I remember being really upset about the infamous Montreal incident as a kid.

I usually tuned in and watched a bit of WCW, but so much of it was weak storylines and even weaker wrestling. I would often videotape Nitro and just watch the last 30 mins. The Nitro main event's always rocked. The rest of the show often sucked.

I loved ECW and used to stay up till like 3am or if i could find a blank tape, record Hardcore TV. I loved it from pretty much when it started to when it ended.

nowadays,I can only watch the main event of Monday Night RAW the beginning & middle suck.


Howard

i am still watching wrestling the divas of the 90's we ok I was not into the divas until they were talking about this girl named trish stratus I don't know who she is until she made her debut in 2000

i am still watching wrestling the divas of the 90's we ok I was not into the divas until they were talking about this girl named trish stratus I don't know who she is until she made her debut in 2000 but OMG she so cute and sexy I had a crush on trish stratus to this day she is hot

I only ever watched the WWF.  I got a little tired of wrestling towards the end of the 90's.  It went from man vs. man in the ring, to man with the help of another man, a chair and a lead pipe vs. man with the help of two other men, three chairs, and a trash can back stage with no referees :(

nowadays,I can only watch the main event of Monday Night RAW the beginning & middle suck.


I usually watch most of Raw, or let the Satallite record it and watch it later. I can't even remember the last time i watched Smackdown.

Put it this way, the last time i watched Smackdown from start to finish was the Kurt Angle vs Brock Lesnar Ironman Match - Great Technical Wrestling. That was at least 14-15 months ago.

I usually watch most of Raw, or let the Satallite record it and watch it later. I can't even remember the last time i watched Smackdown.

Put it this way, the last time i watched Smackdown from start to finish was the Kurt Angle vs Brock Lesnar Ironman Match - Great Technical Wrestling. That was at least 14-15 months ago.


Actually, that was from September 2003

90's what are we talking about here?  Early 90's, Mid 90's, late 90's.

Early 90's WWF ruled without a doubt. From 90-92 WWF kicked both Eastern Championship's and World Championship's butts.  They had a roster of guys like you wouldn't believe and WCW pretty much relied on Sting alone.  ECW had their guys that people liked i.e. Chris Candido and The Pit Bulls but nothing compared to the rosters of the other too.

Mid 90's into late 90's it was fun to switch channels because you got something DIFFERENT on each program.  If you wanted to watch the soap opera with the melodramatic acting, the violence, and sex you tuned into WWF.  If you wanted to watch the more family oriented, good vs Bad, morals and values wrestling you turned the dial to WCW. If you just wanted to watch people beaten the living crap out of one another you tuned into ECW which was now Extreme Championship Wrestling.

The late 90's really sucked for me because each wrestling program on TV was exactly the same.  It was WWF's version with a slash mixture of ECW's version.

I remember one night during the good WCW years when Tony Shivioni(spelled WRONG) said, "Parents if your kids are watching you have nothing be afraid of. WCW is a family show where we conduct morals and values. You don't have to worry about extreme violence or seeing women walking around half naked or any of the crap WWF puts on there program. Oh no, we're the WCW and we care what we show people."

About a year later when WCW decided to win they'd have to copy WWF.  Great idea Vince Russo!  Shivoni said, "Whoo hoo take it off, take it off!"  When Shawn Stasiak was accompanied to he ring by women in very tight bikinis.  I have yet to forgive Shivoni.

Actually, that was from September 2003


Hahaha, tells you all you need to know then dosen't it  ;D


About a year later when WCW decided to win they'd have to copy WWF.  Great idea Vince Russo!  Shivoni said, "Whoo hoo take it off, take it off!"  When Shawn Stasiak was accompanied to he ring by women in very tight bikinis.  I have yet to forgive Shivoni.


I'm yet to forgive Schiavoni  ;) for his "Wow, that'll put a lot of asses in seats" comment.

Hey Tony, now your a useless Bum.. 'FUC! YOU TONY!"

Hahaha, tells you all you need to know then dosen't it  ;D

I'm yet to forgive Schiavoni  ;) for his "Wow, that'll put a lot of asses in seats" comment.

Hey Tony, now your a useless Bum.. 'FUC! YOU TONY!"


Pro Wrestling Illustrated  Useless Bum's Awards

Champion: Tony Schiavoni
Runner Up: Vince Russo
Third Place: Vic Venom

Pro Wrestling Illustrated  Useless Bum's Awards

Champion: Tony Schiavoni
Runner Up: Vince Russo
Third Place: Vic Venom


;D

Pretty much got it there.

Even though this has nothing to do with 90's Wrestling, on WWE.com, it says that Christian just Quit the WWE  :(

He was one of my favorites

Even though this has nothing to do with 90's Wrestling, on WWE.com, it says that Christian just Quit the WWE

Well, sounds like a smart guy to me!

But in the 90s, I felt is was WCW, then later it was WWF

I thought now would be a good time to bump this.  I don't know if you guys have heard the Tragic news, but WWE Wrestler "Eddie Guerrero" just died earlier this morning.  He was found dead in his hotel bathroom  :\'(

R.I.P

Even more sad is that he was actually scheduled to win the World Heavyweight Title later tonight at the "Smackdown" Tapings  :-http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/5101/vivalaeddie4yh.jpg

I thought now would be a good time to bump this.  I don't know if you guys have heard the Tragic news, but WWE Wrestler "Eddie Guerrero" just died earlier this morning.  He was found dead in his hotel bathroom  :\'(

R.I.P

Even more sad is that he was actually scheduled to win the WWE Title later tonight at the "Smackdown" Tapings  :-http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/5101/vivalaeddie4yh.jpg


I discoverd this today.

I'm sure a lot of uninformed people will come out with "Oh that's what steroid abuse will do" Eddie was about 5'9 and 200 Lbs. If there was ever a natural athelte it was him.

Eddie has a drug problem a few years ago and cleaned himself up. The man was dedicated to his passion.

He has a large family who i'm sure are all greiving.

Eddie was a hero to those of us who've had to overcome our own demons, he was an inspiration and a marvelous athlete.

I'm just glad he was able to hold the title he worked so hard for before he died.

I discoverd this today.

I'm sure a lot of uninformed people will come out with "Oh that's what steroid abuse will do" Eddie was about 5'9 and 200 Lbs. If there was ever a natural athelte it was him.

Eddie has a drug problem a few years ago and cleaned himself up. The man was dedicated to his passion.

He has a large family who i'm sure are all greiving.

Eddie was a hero to those of us who've had to overcome our own demons, he was an inspiration and a marvelous athlete.

I'm just glad he was able to hold the title he worked so hard for before he died.


He overcame everything, he was amazing.  It says that they think he died from Heart Failure.  Well Wrestling every single day of the year will eventually take its toll on someones body.  What kills me the most is that he was scheduled to defeat Batista tonight for the World Heavyweight Title because Batista is going to have to miss 3 months due to injury so they had to get the belt off of him.  Eddie will always be a World Champion in my book

They say that they found Eddie lying dead in his Bathroom with a toothbrush in his mouth  :\'(

Here is a little bit of news about it

Eddie Guerrero had breakfast with Chavo Guerrero this morning and then returned to his hotel room. When he did not come out at the expected time, Chavo and others knocked on his door and called his room to no answer. Security got his door open and Guerrero was found dead in the bathroom with a toothbrush in his mouth. It is believed that he had a heart attack while brushing his teeth.

WWE wrestlers and staff were very shaken up as they headed to the Target Center for the RAW/Smackdown taping tonight. As reported earlier, the plans for the taping have been changed to make it a Eddie Guerrero dedication show.

He overcame everything, he was amazing.  It says that they think he died from Heart Failure.  Well Wrestling every single day of the year will eventually take its toll on someones body.  What kills me the most is that he was scheduled to defeat Batista tonight for the World Heavyweight Title because Batista is going to have to miss 3 months due to injury so they had to get the belt off of him.  Eddie will always be a World Champion in my book

They say that they found Eddie lying dead in his Bathroom with a toothbrush in his mouth  :\'(


Oh man, i hadn't seen that yet.

He was without a shadow of a doubt one of the best in the business.

Someone somewhere has got to stop the drug usage.  I can't say for sure but look at how small Eddie was only a few years ago and how big he got in a short amount of time.  Too many deaths, to many of them, and yeah maybe they're worth it when you look at it from a material sense of life, but Mr. Perfect, British Bulldog and now Eddie?  Something has to be done.

we will miss you eddie and I was wondering who will take his place at the survivor series?

I was watching the Press Conference today with Vince McMahon and Chavo Guerrero Jr. and they were talking about how Eddie had problems with Alcoholism and he was addicted to Pain Killers, but Chavo said that when they were on a Plane together yesterday, Eddie told Chavo how today was his 4th year anniversary of being clean and sober and how proud he was of himself

Chavo also said that Eddie has been a Born again Christian for about 4 years now also

Vince was saying how the problems that Eddie had with Alcohol and Pills in the past eventually just took its toll on his body, plus with him Wrestling non stop every day

One thing that had me concerned was that I just got done watching "Smackdown" from this past Friday and I noticed that after Eddie's match, he kept holding the side of his head and then Eddie turned around and his opponent hit him HARD in the head with a chair (as part of the script obviously), but i'm really hoping that his death had nothing to do with a head or brain injury or anything

And Matt, I'm not sure who will replace him, they will probably wait 2 weeks to announce it.  They just now finished taping RAW and Smackdown for this coming week.  They were both a tribute show and some of the wrestlers had some things to say about Eddie and how great he was.  Chris Benoit was crying through the whole show

Someone somewhere has got to stop the drug usage.  I can't say for sure but look at how small Eddie was only a few years ago and how big he got in a short amount of time.  Too many deaths, to many of them, and yeah maybe they're worth it when you look at it from a material sense of life, but Mr. Perfect, British Bulldog and now Eddie?  Something has to be done.


There are many demons in the Industry (as with life) and Eddie had problems with them. As i said before though, how he overcame them is an inspiration. A few years ago he was a good 35-40lbs lighter.. but he was skinny, very skinny. I sincerly doubt he used anything in the past few years. I think what McMahon said is probably true. What he did in the past caught up with him and the way he's punished his body the last few years took it's toll.