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the fun free, teeny bopper 90's were 96-2000 not thrilled about that

I'm nostalgic about the early to mid 90's, 90-95. That was a great era.......a brief era, but I'd still take 90-95 over all of the 80's.
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No, 96-98 was when R&b and Hip Hop dominated. Remember R&B group Blackstreet with songs like "No Diggity" and 'Don't Leave Me" were on top of the charts. Solo Artist Usher had hits like "You Make Me Wanna", "My Way", and "Nice & Slow" spanning late 97-mid 98. Puff Daddy dminated 1997 and 1998 with his sampled filled songs. The Hip Hop Group The Fugees were huge in 1996. Bone Thugs N' harmony had a hit with "Crossroads" in 96. Actually in 96 punk/ska was hot too with groups like No Doubt, and Sublime. No Doubt had a hit with "Don't Speak" in 1997. Don't forget about The Offspring either. I remember that song that went(You Gotta them seperated.) Teen-pop really didn't blow up until Britney Spears came out. Before she came out with "Baby One More Time" Jay-Z's "Can I getta..." was the hottest song in late 98.

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the reason some 90s nostalgia has already begun is because the 80s people broke the "20 years" rule, and theres so many 90s kids out there that keep hearing "80s this 80s that" that they start thinking about all the junk from their younger days too. But anyways, unlike the 80s, the 90s will be remembered for the Late "90's" I.M.O. in 2004 look for people to start talking about the Spice Girls(who will be sooo 7 years ago) Britney Limp Bizkit TRL Ricky Martin Christina Aguilera Eminem N Sync Backstreets etc...since all of those acts will be 5 years old by then. I think the late 90's will be one of those times thats looked back on as fondly(embarrasingly too) as the mid 80s since it was also one of those time of a pop culture explosion(the teen movies, the music, the fashion, other entertainment, like the Playstation)


IMO you have to include 1997 and 1998 as part of the pop era because 1) the Spice Girls blew up, Backstreet blew up, Hanson was huge, 98 degrees had pretty good succes, and N sync was blowing up 2)97 Puffy brought us the poppiest rap ever(and it wasnt at all like 96) 98 urban music was really pop too(Usher, Next, Brandy & Monica, Aaliyah, K-Ci and Jo jo to name a few)
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First off the 90's will be remembered too for the grunge and gangsta rap from 1992-1996 too not just teen-pop.

As far as the 97-98 period Kic Ci Jo Jo and Next and all them could be classified as Pop/R&B(I wouldn't put them in the teen-pop category.) That was my music in 1998 when grunge was completely dead. I'll agree with you on the Puff daddy thing that when he came out rap music really changed from the early to mid 90's period. 98 Degree's had hits with "Because of You", "The Hardest Thing", and I Do(Cherish You) spanning late 98 to late 99. I can't believe I actually remembered the title of all those songs. The Spice Girls and Hanson did start the teen-pop thing but still Hip Hop/R&b was what was dominating the charts in 97/98. Even an R&B act like Dru Hill manage to go double platinum and make some noise from 96-99.

I think the late 90's will be looked at the same as the late 80's were because both times in the latter part of those decades teen-pop and Pop/R&B dominated.

As far as the 80's coming maybe a little bit but I don't see 80's fashions coming back in the 00's like the 70's fashions came back in the 90's.

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the reason some 90s nostalgia has already begun is because the 80s people broke the "20 years" rule, and theres so many 90s kids out there that keep hearing "80s this 80s that" that they start thinking about all the junk from their younger days too. But anyways, unlike the 80s, the 90s will be remembered for the Late "90's" I.M.O. in 2004 look for people to start talking about the Spice Girls(who will be sooo 7 years ago) Britney Limp Bizkit TRL Ricky Martin Christina Aguilera Eminem N Sync Backstreets etc...since all of those acts will be 5 years old by then. I think the late 90's will be one of those times thats looked back on as fondly(embarrasingly too) as the mid 80s since it was also one of those time of a pop culture explosion(the teen movies, the music, the fashion, other entertainment, like the Playstation)


IMO you have to include 1997 and 1998 as part of the pop era because 1) the Spice Girls blew up, Backstreet blew up, Hanson was huge, 98 degrees had pretty good succes, and N sync was blowing up 2)97 Puffy brought us the poppiest rap ever(and it wasnt at all like 96) 98 urban music was really pop too(Usher, Next, Brandy & Monica, Aaliyah, K-Ci and Jo jo to name a few)
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This is utterly ridiculous.  The Late 90's defined the decade?  Please.  The only decade in the last century where the latter half or late part was the defining part of it was the 1960's.  The 60's were the only decade in the past 100 years that bucked the trend, and had the end part be what that decade is remembered for.  By the way, my prediction is that the 00's will be like the 60's, with the pop culture of the Late 00's being the more defining moments of this decade.  

EVERY OTHER decade has it's most defining moments in the early and mid part.  The Roaring 20's, the Depression era 30's, the war effort of the 40's, the placid 50's, and ofcourse the 70's and 80's.  The 1990's were no different, it was the early and mid 90's that will most be remembered.  Sure the late 90's has it's place, but it lives in the shadow of the early-mid 90's in the exact same way the late 80's are always overshadowed by early-mid 80's.

This was the 90's: Grunge bands like Pearl Jam, Nirvana, and gangsta rappers like Tupac and Snoop Dogg.  Pop singers like Mariah Carey and Alanis Morrisette were also the 90's.  Teen shows like 90210, Party of Five and Melrose Place.

My God, the 90's were NOT defined by 1999 with it's Britney Spears and Eminem lovers.  

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I personally, coming from a 95 h.s. grad, think the very early 90s (90-91) were more a part of the late 80s..I remember people still having big hair when I started h.s. in 91. By 95 forget it. The core of 90s news, music, cultue, and all other pop culture was the 92-96 era. Just as 1970-71 had much more in common with 1968 than 1979. The 70s change from psychedelic/hippie to drippy disco was rather fast though..about 5 years (72-77). The 90s could be seen as one cohesive pile of crap, but 92-96 wasn't bad, and in my opinion, was the best part of the decade. 97 was ok..but the horrible late 90s started when Britney's first song was played on a radio station sometime in mid 1998..all dowhnill from there. The latino music "explosion" was a bust, since none of it was truly Latin music (La Vida Loca, etc..)..but it did put it on the map at least.
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Now I basically agree with this.  1992 to 1996/'97 was the core of the 90's, and those years nearly matches the same time for the 80's.  The core of the 80's was 1982 to 1987.  Anyway, the Early and Mid 90's RULED.  The Late 90's were awful.  Well everything after the first half of 1998 sucked anyway.  But I wasn't a teenager in the Late 90's, so I'm obviously biased.  Being a product of the Early-Mid 90's, I favor those parts of the decade.  

The guy who says no one will remember Nirvana is way off base.  That's like saying The Beatles will never be associated with the 60's or remembered.  Yea, most kids born in 1994 will probably think that the 90's were all about 1999 and Britney and N'Sync.....the same way most people born in 1984 seem to think that the 80's were all about Paula Abdul, New Kids on the Block and everything else from 1989.  But that's just uninformed thinking.  

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The 90s could be seen as one cohesive pile of crap, but 92-96 wasn't bad, and in my opinion, was the best part of the decade. 97 was ok..but the horrible late 90s started when Britney's first song was played on a radio station sometime in mid 1998..all dowhnill from there. The latino music "explosion" was a bust, since none of it was truly Latin music (La Vida Loca, etc..)..but it did put it on the map at least.
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Britney's first song was played in late 1998 not the mid point of 98. About the latin explosion experts also predicted in 1997 Electronica was going to be the next big thing and that went bust. I agree 100% about Britney's first song started alot of crappy music that were still fighting through now.

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I personally, coming from a 95 h.s. grad, think the very early 90s (90-91) were more a part of the late 80s..I remember people still having big hair when I started h.s. in 91. By 95 forget it. The core of 90s news, music, cultue, and all other pop culture was the 92-96 era. Just as 1970-71 had much more in common with 1968 than 1979. The 70s change from psychedelic/hippie to drippy disco was rather fast though..about 5 years (72-77).
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The 90's was like the 70's if your looking at it from that vantage point(92-96) to 97+ as some people(I don't as I have said before)but I feel feel we went from grunge to formaulatic rap and teen-pop and the 70's you are referring too went from classic rock(72-76)to disco(77 to about 79 I guess.) The late 90's teen-pop era has alot in common with late 70's disco(artists were force to sell out you had Elton John doing that song  "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" and that had a disco beat to it. Rod Stewart and The Rolling Stones did one disco song in the late 70's too. In 1999 Blink 182 sold out, Bloodhound Gang sold out(remember the song about the Discovery Channel?) Lastly, some disco artists did have talent(Chic, Donna Summer, SOS Band) but most of the disco was one-hit wonder type by 1979 like Anita Ward with "Ring My Bell". By 80 a harder core kinda disco took over with the Pointer Sisters who had a hit "He's So Shy" and Michael Jackson had hits with "Don't Stop Till Get You Enough" and "I Wanna Rock With You". Kool and The Gang also thrived in the late 70's/early 80's too(nice funk band Kool and The Gang was.) I'm only 23 and I really don't know alot about the disco era but I do listen to music from that era so I try too remember from different music programs what that era was like so if somebody who is 45 now who lived through the disco era could probably explain better than I can.

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From the 70s up til the 90s..music seems to have been tageted to people in late teens, early 20s..now it's more the 13-16 year old age range (because they have more disposable $$$ than ever before). Tell me if you know someone who was from about 18-21 in 1998 who liked Britney, who had a #1 song for what, 6-7 weeks?? I think all pop culture was targeted to younger and younger people..starting in the late 90s and up through today. Music has never been marketed for the 25+ age group (if you go into a 25+ club, it's all 80s early 90s mixes, naturally), it's always about youth..but now it's just younger and younger. I think that honestly has lead to the deterioration of mainstream music and I've actually seem 18 year olds sitting around remembering the "golden years" of Britney back when they were youngins of 13 in 98. Scary!
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Thats true the people are younger and younger who follow music. My parents really don't care for today's stuff. The only artists I can really truly listen to nowdays are stuff like Nas, Alicia Keys, Norah Jones, Queens of the Stone Age, The Strokes, Usher, and R.Kelly and thats pretty much it. In 1995 they were alot more choices. I can't believe people are sitting back on looking back on a career of of a two hit wonder: "Baby One More Time" and "Sometimes" are the only significant songs she has done. She really hasn't done anything great: she can dance but thats about it. Her Vocal aliblity is nothing to write home about. I am a Rock and R&B fan and Britney is really nothing to remember except remembering her for putting bad music out there. I wish I followed music in 93 when R&B and Rock groups like SWV, En Vogue, Stone Temple Pilots, and Alice In Chains were hot. I caught the tale end of my era between 95-98. Like Amy Lee says in Evansence's 03 hit "Bring Me To Life": "Save Me". Its like save me from bad music that is surrounding the airwaves nowadays. Where is rappers like Rakim? Rap Groups like Tribe Called Quest? Where are rock groups like Faith no More? I could care less how good somebody looks. Hopefully Deftones drop a good album soon. Rakim will come back with an album with Dr. Dre. Music is about expression and storytelling not about how somebody looks in a tank top. Even the 80's were a good decade of music. The 70's I tried to listen to. The latter part of the decade was good. The earlier part I can't listen to.