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Subject: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: Xmutant on 08/22/02 at 05:55 p.m.

I have never "got" alternative music, and I still don't and probably never will.  Back in the early '90s, when Nirvana and Pearl Jam broke through, I was like "wtf!? are they playing on the radio?".   ???

I am still that way with today's alternative bands.  They all sound the same to me.  I suspect alternative music is what polarized everyone else who loved the '80s.

Could someone please explain the appeal of alternative music to me?  

Thank you

Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: Q.Aviator on 08/22/02 at 06:11 p.m.

Hi. Well, I always thought of it as " ok, its music..and its alternative. Some hard rock and a bit pop. I guess it appeals people who don't like a lot of hard rock music and ones who like pop rock. Perhaps i didn't help much, but thats what i think of it.

Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: Sagnastian on 08/22/02 at 11:15 p.m.

what you don't like you won't never get.  it's like a big fan of country who hates hip hop will never get it.  me personally, I never got why people liked country, first it's depressing and the dancing is all the same.  

has anyone ever seen Godsmack live?  they rocked!

Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: Bobo on 08/22/02 at 11:21 p.m.

I have always liked the alternative country acts and those that have melded genres, in the musical industry. I think the idea of alternative-ism is to veer away from chart crap. I can't see real alternative music getting in the chart. Real alternative music is that that doesn't sell. The other stuff is the stuff that appeals to kids, and that sells.

Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: The Nu Wave Conformist on 08/23/02 at 04:03 p.m.


Quoting:
I have never "got" alternative music, and I still don't and probably never will.  Back in the early '90s, when Nirvana and Pearl Jam broke through, I was like "wtf!? are they playing on the radio?".   ???

I am still that way with today's alternative bands.  They all sound the same to me.  I suspect alternative music is what polarized everyone else who loved the '80s.

Could someone please explain the appeal of alternative music to me?  

Thank you
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It depends what you mean by "alternative." For me, the alternative is better than the mainstream stuff (either because it is overplayed to death or because there isn't that much innovation in the styles). Example: for a while Fluff Rock/Cheez Metal dominated the airwaves in the mid-late 80s, the alternative for me was to listen to Indie, Punk, Goth, and Electronic bands and artists. The appeal of alternative music is that it is different from what is being played on the radio (most of it was and still is crap). You have the choice of listening to boy bands, Cheez Metal, Country, Puke Pop, et al., but you also have an alternative if that doesn't satisfy your listening needs.

Now if you mean to call "alternative" that which was also called Grunge Rock (it came from Seattle, right?), then I guess these bands began as the alternative to something like, say, Motley Crew and Poison (a.k.a. Cheez Metal), but then these bands became THE mainstream music for a while and, in a way, ceased to become the alternative (just plain Grunge Rock). I thought some of it was good while others rested on the laurels of being called a Grunge band. The appeal of Grunge Rock is the style and themes explored in the music. When you heard Pearl Jam on the radio, you did have a reaction (albeit a bad one, but a reaction nonetheless) which is one of the principles of being alternative. This wasn't something you've heard before or else it was tweaked and re-worked so much it got a reaction out of you - was it the same when you heard Winger, Ratt, or Slaughter? Probably not.

The Nu Wave Conformist

Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: Tv on 08/23/02 at 09:23 p.m.

I did like Alternative Rock in the mid 90's and all the bands didn't sound the same I think. I think alternative rock wise System of A Down and Red Hot Chilli Peppers are the best things rock has out now. Queens of the Stone Age is a good band that should blow up. Thank god late 90's teen-pop has died. I like 80's Pop/R&b but that teen-pop just ment nothing.

Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: Thursday on 08/25/02 at 08:23 p.m.


Quoting:
Queens of the Stone Age is a good band that should blow up. End Quote


Queens Of The Stone Age rock
you know any band with Dave in it is gonna blow up


Jim Morrison is your god

Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: Alicia. on 08/25/02 at 10:19 p.m.

Ah all music sounds the same to me. They all sing either out loud or soft or whatever......

Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: Gis on 08/27/02 at 02:39 a.m.

I think it's all down to personal taste! I never 'got' rap,hiphop or gangsta rap.I still can't stand it but thats my personal taste vive le differance! God forbid if we all had the same tastes!?!

Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: james_dean (Guest) on 08/27/02 at 04:28 a.m.


Quoting:
I have never "got" alternative music, and I still don't and probably never will.  Back in the early '90s, when Nirvana and Pearl Jam broke through, I was like "wtf!? are they playing on the radio?".   ???

I am still that way with today's alternative bands.  They all sound the same to me.  I suspect alternative music is what polarized everyone else who loved the '80s.

Could someone please explain the appeal of alternative music to me?  

Thank you
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That is simply because you are dumb and don't respect musical genius's or legends such as Kurt Cobain you are  disrespectful to a man that changed the music industry and world you are too dumb too know what the lyrics mean,you simply have no real taste in music Kurt's lyrics are great leave him and Nirvana alone they were great and Nelly or Eminem isn't so get real taste in music stupid teenybopper.

Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: Edgewood_Dirk on 08/30/02 at 07:53 a.m.

What I never cared for about "alternative" is that everyone started relabeling 80s bands with some form of "alternative" term. Bands like The Cure, U2, Depeche Mode which were already huge by the early 90s were suddenly "alternative." Give me a break.

Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: The Nu Wave Conformist on 08/30/02 at 01:03 p.m.


Quoting:
What I never cared for about "alternative" is that everyone started relabeling 80s bands with some form of "alternative" term. Bands like The Cure, U2, Depeche Mode which were already huge by the early 90s were suddenly "alternative." Give me a break.
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Therefore, "alternative" isn't really a category/genre of music per se, but more like the dictionary definition of it. It would be best to use Indie, Pop Rock, Rock, Grunge, Arena Rock, Metal, Hair, Glam, Goth, Punk, New Wave, EBM, or something other than alternative...

The Nu Wave Conformist

Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: Junior on 08/30/02 at 02:49 p.m.


Quoting:

That is simply because you are dumb and don't respect musical genius's or legends such as Kurt Cobain you are  disrespectful to a man that changed the music industry and world you are too dumb too know what the lyrics mean,you simply have no real taste in music Kurt's lyrics are great leave him and Nirvana alone they were great and Nelly or Eminem isn't so get real taste in music stupid teenybopper.
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Subject: Re: I don't

Written By: Shannon on 08/30/02 at 11:29 p.m.

Alternative
Pronunciation: ol-'t&r-n&-tiv
Function: adjective
3 : different from the usual or conventional:as a : existing or functioning outside the established cultural, social, or economic system b : of, or relating to, or being rock music that is regarded as an alternative to conventional rock and is typically influenced by punk rock, hard rock, hip-hop, or folk music. -- from the Merriam-Webster Dictionary

What I don't "get" is Rap and Nu-Metal   ???  WTF is that.   ;)

Subject: Re: I don't

Written By: Bobo on 08/30/02 at 11:35 p.m.

Either tame, egotistical, or fake. ;)

No, Rap, is speaking words in a certain predetermined rhythm over a certain instrumental backing. For example, Stan, by Eminem is a rap song. Freestyle is exactly the opposite - fast speech. Neither the words nor rhythm are predetermined.

Nu-metal, as far as I'm aware, the difference between a metal band and a nu-metal band is the fact that the latter has to either have a resident rapper or a DJ in the band. Can someone please verify this? For example, DJ Sid Wilson (0) - (Slipknot) is what determines the fact that Slipknot are a nu-metal band, as opposed to any other categorization.

Quoting:
What I don't "get" is Rap and Nu-Metal   ???  WTF is that.   ;)
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Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: panda on 08/31/02 at 08:54 a.m.



Quoting:

That is simply because you are dumb and don't respect musical genius's or legends such as Kurt Cobain you are  disrespectful to a man that changed the music industry and world you are too dumb too know what the lyrics mean,you simply have no real taste in music Kurt's lyrics are great leave him and Nirvana alone they were great and Nelly or Eminem isn't so get real taste in music stupid teenybopper.
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it's rude to call people dumb and stupid because of a difference of opinion.  it's also rude to assume a person is a teenybopper just because he or she doesn't like the same music you do.  i really think you should click on the forum rules link and take a good, long look at it.  


as for the topic at hand, my definition alternative music is anything that isn't on the mainstream music charts.  for the most part, i really can't stand the music on mainstream charts, and therefore i choose to listen to an alternative.  i don't really consider it a type of music because my alternatives consist of indie, classic rock, a little punk, grunge, orchestral, musicals, etc.  alternative doesn't mean that it's not popular or rarely listened to.  i believe an 'alternative' artist or group can be can be popular without being mainstream.  for example, i think of sponge as a fairly popular band, but i wouldn't consider them to be a mainstream band and are alternative as per my aforementioned definition.  that's my take on alternative music.  and i don't think anyone is dumb or stupid because they don't like or get a particular type of music.

panda:D :D :D

Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: Banasy on 08/31/02 at 08:54 p.m.

My take on alternative is that it is music that doesen't fit into a certain category: Rock, Pop, Country, etc. I may be wrong, but that is how I see it.

Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 08/31/02 at 11:23 p.m.


Quoting:
My take on alternative is that it is music that doesen't fit into a certain category: Rock, Pop, Country, etc. I may be wrong, but that is how I see it.
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Me too !

My problem is that there seems to be a new category every flippin' week..... ::)

Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: Screwball54 on 08/31/02 at 11:33 p.m.

Quoting:

musical genius's or legends such as Kurt Cobain you are  disrespectful to a man that changed the music industry and world .
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Should we respect someone who took his own life?  I think Kurt Cobain was a coward.  If he hadn't of got lucky with tean spirit, pearl jam would have came into the mainstreem a few months latter and Edie vedder would be credited as a genius.  Bands such as Alice in Chains were doing the sound prior to Nirvana, but do they get any credit?

PS: If he made such a lasting change to the music industry why is it worse today then it ever has been?

Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: Jax on 09/01/02 at 11:44 a.m.


Quoting:


Should we respect someone who took his own life?  I think Kurt Cobain was a coward.  If he hadn't of got lucky with tean spirit, pearl jam would have came into the mainstreem a few months latter and Edie vedder would be credited as a genius.  Bands such as Alice in Chains were doing the sound prior to Nirvana, but do they get any credit?

PS: If he made such a lasting change to the music industry why is it worse today then it ever has been?
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I always felt the same way about Kurt Cobain and Nirvana.  If he didn't blow his brains out, then there would be no mystique surrounding him and the band Nirvana.  If there was no suicide then I'm positive Nirvana would have simply faded from the radar the way Pearl Jam has.  And in the end, Pearl Jam was a better band then Nirvana anyway.

KC and Nirvana were overrated.    

Subject: Re: I don't "get" Alternative music

Written By: Junior on 09/02/02 at 12:28 a.m.


Quoting:
 And in the end, Pearl Jam was a better band then Nirvana anyway.

KC and Nirvana were overrated.    
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I have to disagree. IMO, I think Nirvana was a better band...but that's just my opinion...

Quoting:If there was no suicide then I'm positive Nirvana would have simply faded from the radar the way Pearl Jam has.  End Quote



Maybe Nirvana would, but look at the Foo Fighters...