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Subject: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Indy Gent on 07/10/02 at 10:21 p.m.

For Madonna fans: Which Madonna persona do you like better: the old cut-off stocking clad Material Girl, the oversexed cone shaped breasted Erotica babe, or the new post-maternal Music lady? I prefer the newer Madonna better. She looks cleaner and her music is better, IMHO. I still think she's zonked out of her head, but motherhood mellowed her out.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: lebeiw15 on 07/10/02 at 10:26 p.m.

New!

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Screwball54 on 07/10/02 at 10:30 p.m.

I like her in the "Like a Prayer" video, which is after the cut - off jeans days, but before the cone days.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: lebeiw15 on 07/10/02 at 11:48 p.m.


Quoting:
She looks cleaner and her music is better, IMHO. End Quote


Even though we don't agree on pop, J.C., at least we agree on something!!

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: philbo_baggins on 07/11/02 at 03:37 a.m.

But the "new" Madonna is old...

;-)

Phil

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: jamminoldies on 07/11/02 at 07:15 p.m.

I love the old Madonna from 20 years ago.

 -howard-

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: dagwood on 07/11/02 at 07:25 p.m.

I love the first incarnation.  The Boy Toy era.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: southernspitfire on 07/11/02 at 09:55 p.m.

Classic Madonna...just like Classic Coke!! ;)

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Criz on 07/13/02 at 10:49 a.m.


Quoting:
I love the first incarnation.  The Boy Toy era.
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Definitly agree. She looked great back then - I'm even dressing up as 'Boy Toy' Madonna for my 80's party. As Modern English would say, 'It was always mesh and lace' ;D .

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 07/14/02 at 06:34 a.m.

Whatever Madonna it was when she did "Papa Don't Preach"

FB  :)

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Tarzan Boy (Guest) on 07/14/02 at 06:38 a.m.


Quoting:
Whatever Madonna it was when she did "Papa Don't Preach"

FB  :)
End Quote



You mean the one where her boob pops out during a dance routine? That was legendary when the music video first came aired ;)

Tarzan Boy

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: ThunderVamp9 on 07/14/02 at 09:40 a.m.

Old 80's Madonna.  The new Madonna looks old, trashy, like a throw-away of the old Madonna.  Her music is not exciting at all, does not sound fresh, or new.  No innovation.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Indy Gent on 07/14/02 at 10:00 a.m.

I have to disagree, TV9. The old Madonna looked young and trashy and the songs weren't innovated when they came out. Plus, the maturity of the new look Madonna makes her new songs more innovative. Their not great as far as danceability, but technically they are better.  ;)

Quoting:
Old 80's Madonna.  The new Madonna looks old, trashy, like a throw-away of the old Madonna.  Her music is not exciting at all, does not sound fresh, or new.  No innovation.
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Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: ThunderVamp9 on 07/14/02 at 10:36 a.m.

And that's where I have to disagree.  The old Madonna introduced us to a new look, a new style, that girls and women wanted to duplicate.  People wanted to BE her.  her music was catchy, fresh, highly danceable.  It was fun to listen to, very enjoyable.

I remember a year or so ago, seeing one of her new videos on TV.  In it she was in a plain plaid, button up shirt, crappy jeans and a cowboy hat.  Boring, especially for someone who used to SET trends, not follow them.  It struck me as just that, someone trying to fit in with what's popular now instead of being on the forefront of CREATING what's popular.  And her music strikes me as being of the same attitude now.  Just trying to follow the trend...

THAT'S why I prefer the old Madonna.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Indy Gent on 07/14/02 at 04:16 p.m.

Honesty, she looked and acted like a girl then. IMHO, it was a turn-off. Even during her "Blonde Ambition" days, she needed to grow up. I like normal and bland. At least she has her clothes still on.  ;D

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Criz on 07/15/02 at 12:50 a.m.


Quoting:
http://privat.schlund.de/D/DSchmidt/Maddy/cdfirst.jpg :-*



Tarzan Boy
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She looked fantastic then. If I was a teeneger in those days I would indefinitly have been one of those Madonna 'wannabes'.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: oneonone on 07/18/02 at 02:46 p.m.

Old

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Hairspray on 07/18/02 at 03:24 p.m.

The original/classic which cannot ever be duplicated Madonna in her "Like A Virgin" days. Wow, that was a mouthful.  :o

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: SammyReed on 07/18/02 at 07:54 p.m.

I like her more nowadays because she looks more like a normal human being.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: RockandRollFan on 07/20/02 at 10:27 p.m.

Well, back in the old days.....1983....she was more of a simple person, as was her music....now she has moved away from the USA and tried to make everyone believe she is British....similar to Hillary "Pretending" she was New York born & raised. I'll take the real deal over the Fake sell-out anyday ;)

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Jessica on 07/20/02 at 11:29 p.m.


Quoting:
now she has moved away from the USA and tried to make everyone believe she is British....
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Yeah, have you heard her "British" accent?

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Indy Gent on 07/21/02 at 01:15 a.m.

Madonna always faked an accent depending on where she lived at. When she was a New Yorker, she had a New York accent. When she was in Detroit, she had a Midwestern accent. Can't wait til she moves to Africa.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Banasy on 07/21/02 at 02:36 a.m.


Quoting:
Madonna always faked an accent depending on where she lived at. When she was a New Yorker, she had a New York accent. When she was in Detroit, she had a Midwestern accent. Can't wait til she moves to Africa.
End Quote


Yes, there are so many countries from which to choose her next accent from!

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Indy Gent on 07/21/02 at 02:51 a.m.

Brush up on your Swahili, Madonna! ;D

Quoting:

Yes, there are so many countries from which to choose her next accent from!
End Quote

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Banasy on 07/21/02 at 03:39 a.m.


Quoting:
Brush up on your Swahili, Madonna! ;D

End Quote


Can't wait to see her "Walk Like An Egyptian".....

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Me on 08/21/02 at 11:18 p.m.

Two words: New Madonna. Her older stuff (mid-eighties) was too over-rated & far from her best work.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Alicia. on 08/24/02 at 11:58 p.m.

I perfer neither

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: ArchAngel on 09/08/02 at 10:06 a.m.

She's way different now that she was back then. So its really hard to compare. It's almost like two different people. I say..i like both of them.

As far as the accent thing, well.....she's always spoken like that, so i don't understand where people said that she now has a british accent. Look at her old interviews...really. And, some people naturally have an accent...e.g. Tina Turner.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Alicia. on 09/10/02 at 09:28 p.m.

oh yeah I would just like to point out (since people didn't read it on the other topic) that a lot of people who like Madonna Don't like Marilyn Monroe....whats funny is that they seem like both the same to me....now why is that?

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Paul S. on 09/11/02 at 10:36 a.m.


Quoting:
oh yeah I would just like to point out (since people didn't read it on the other topic) that a lot of people who like Madonna Don't like Marilyn Monroe....whats funny is that they seem like both the same to me....now why is that?
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Well they're both blonde.  And Madonna paid homage to Marlyin Monroe in her "Material Girl" music video.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: the_OlLine_Rebel on 09/17/02 at 01:16 p.m.

Thought I answered already but no.  I like old (ooops - past?) Madonna.  I mean, I never "liked" her (even less when I saw her TVed concerts - yikes how she ruined some songs w/her sex-crazed sluttiness) but I loved her songs when they 1st came out and she really was the thing.  Later she got too bland sounding as well as bland looking (but probably still a slut on stage from what I've seen tho' not really recent).

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: My_name_is_Kenny on 09/17/02 at 01:43 p.m.

Ah, Madonna, possibly one of the most overrated people in this history of everything.  

Personally, I think that she was never innovative at all, musically.  You can worship her all you want, she's just a pop starlet with the foresight to take control of her image (which is actually quite commendable).  She jumped on the 80's new wave pop phase, she rode out the daring shock-everyone wave, she's riding the techno-pop wave now.

Musically, old 80's Madonna rules over all other Madonna.  She could turn out some especially fine pop singles, but it all went to sh*t after she turned out that piece of garbage Vogue, and she hasn't recovered from it since.

Imagewise, I'll take any era that wasn't that midperiod one where she was as fetish-y and sex-goddess-y as she could possibly be.  She was just ugly then, not to mention it was her worst period of music.  But she was definitely hot in the 80's, especially her Lucky Star days, and even now, she's still attractive.  I'd dress her up in MY love, if ya know what I mean.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: crud on 10/16/02 at 05:39 p.m.

the "express yourself" and vogue madonna was beautiful

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Criz on 10/19/02 at 08:59 a.m.


Quoting:
Ah, Madonna, possibly one of the most overrated people in this history of everything.  
End Quote



I'd say that The Beatles are possibly the most overrated band in the history of popular music. I know I'll get slaughtered for saying this.  :-X

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Hairspray on 10/19/02 at 09:57 a.m.


Quoting:


I'd say that The Beatles are possibly the most overrated band in the history of popular music. I know I'll get slaughtered for saying this.  :-X
End Quote



I can actually see your point.  :-X  <Hides behind a rock>

I believe many celebrities and musicians are overrated, including Madonna, among many others. Don't take that to mean I don't admire their accomplishments and talent. It's just I can't relate to building people up to be more than they should be (like Gods on Earth). They're just people like us who happen to have their accomplishments in the public eye.

I wonder if it's safe to come out from behind the rock...  ;)

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Indy Gent on 10/19/02 at 12:48 a.m.

Nope, I think the Grateful Dead were. Maybe Black Sabbath.

Quoting:


I'd say that The Beatles are possibly the most overrated band in the history of popular music. I know I'll get slaughtered for saying this.  :-X
End Quote

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Charlie on 11/26/02 at 03:27 p.m.

The Vouge days from 1990-1994.I liked her in '89 too. not that I liked her in Justify My Love and Erotica.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: cs on 11/27/02 at 06:56 a.m.

OLD!

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: the_OlLine_Rebel on 11/27/02 at 08:28 a.m.


Quoting:


I'd say that The Beatles are possibly the most overrated band in the history of popular music. I know I'll get slaughtered for saying this.  :-X
End Quote



I won't.  I don't know if they're "most" overrated, but probably OR in any case!

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: jamminoldies on 11/27/02 at 05:52 p.m.

I like the"old"Madonna better.Remember when she would always touch herself in almost every video she made? :P ;D -howard-

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: John_Seminal on 11/27/02 at 10:12 p.m.


Quoting:
For Madonna fans: Which Madonna persona do you like better: the old cut-off stocking clad Material Girl, the oversexed cone shaped breasted Erotica babe, or the new post-maternal Music lady? I prefer the newer Madonna better. She looks cleaner and her music is better, IMHO. I still think she's zonked out of her head, but motherhood mellowed her out.
End Quote



I liked the old one, the "Like a Virgin" Modonna. I thought she was great when she first came out and was competeing with Cyndi Lauper and Micheal Jackson. But that was the very early 80's.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Ghetto_John_34 on 12/02/02 at 07:02 p.m.

Madonna, one of my favorite singers, she is good no matter what , she has no limits , she a timeless performer

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Stadawim on 12/02/02 at 08:05 p.m.

I'm not really into her new sound (sorta techno, sorta club, sorta confused), but think she looks great.  She's taken care of herself.  My favorite look had to be the 'natural' look she retained for Like A Prayer.  But the 'Material Girl' era was decent as well.  Peppy pop like that fit so well with her.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: SuperFreak on 12/03/02 at 05:53 a.m.

I enjoyed some of her early songs, and certainly thought her better looking way back when.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Hairspray on 12/03/02 at 11:41 a.m.

Her age is showing, especially in her face. She looks worn.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: X on 12/10/02 at 08:17 p.m.

I prefer the Madonna of the 80s.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Jelina on 12/11/02 at 11:27 a.m.


Quoting:
I prefer the Madonna of the 80s.
End Quote



Me too !

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Manhattan83 on 03/19/03 at 07:52 p.m.



 I prefer the old Madonna.. her early years in NYC, before she married S.Penn. I also like her Blond Ambition and Erotica period.. but thats the old Madonna too... but i still like her anyway!

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Manhattan83 on 03/19/03 at 07:53 p.m.


Quoting:
Madonna always faked an accent depending on where she lived at. When she was a New Yorker, she had a New York accent. When she was in Detroit, she had a Midwestern accent. Can't wait til she moves to Africa.
End Quote



 ;D LOLOLOLOLOL  ;D

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Anti_Pop_Superstar on 03/25/03 at 10:04 a.m.

The classic Madonna is better. In my opinion.
I recently heard her recent song on the radio and it sounded like a broken car alarm. I can't stand any of her work from 1998 to the present. Some of her hits from the early '90's are also pathetic. I'd prefer Madonna from 1983 to 1990.

The only acts that sounded better (or as good) in the 1990's are U2, The Cure, Depeche Mode, Bon Jovi, Deborah Gibson (albums released in between plays), Def Leppard, Sting, Annie Lennox, Michael Jackson...til 1992,L L Cool J, The Beastie Boys,REM, and some (15) others.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: jj65 on 04/07/03 at 05:33 p.m.

I love Madonna in that mermaid video she made, I think it was in 1990 or maybe 89, not sure.

she was so hot, the peak of her sexuality

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: jamminoldies on 04/07/03 at 07:18 p.m.

The Old madonna.I heard that new song"American Life"and that song sucks! It's degrading to some religions. >:(

Howard

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: cyclonus5150 on 04/08/03 at 11:15 a.m.


Quoting:
I like her in the "Like a Prayer" video, which is after the cut - off jeans days, but before the cone days.
End Quote




Indeed, this was the one I lusted after the most.  The "Justify My Love" Madonna takes a close second with the "Vogue" Madonna a distant 3rd.  Still, I must say that all incarnations of Madonna are hormone stimulants.  

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: cyclonus5150 on 04/29/03 at 10:13 a.m.


Quoting:
I love Madonna in that mermaid video she made, I think it was in 1990 or maybe 89, not sure.

she was so hot, the peak of her sexuality
End Quote



I think that was cherish and yes, that was hot too.  I just got her new CD on a whim and there are only 3 good songs on there.  They are pretty good though, the 3 that are good.  I'm also listening to some of her "erotica" phase stuff and finding that I actually like some of it.  She did that "Bedtime Stories" with Bjork and it is pretty hot.  I don't know why I ignored it before.  I remember when the erotica stuff came out I just thought she looked like a freak but now I find it strangely attractive.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: irisheyes on 04/29/03 at 11:57 a.m.

THE OLD MADONNA... NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT! :D

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: FunkyFresh on 04/29/03 at 03:42 p.m.

I really liked the mid-80s Madonna.  Crazy for You and Into The Groove are probably my two favorite songs.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Shaz on 04/29/03 at 04:30 p.m.

80s Madonna and Erotica Madonna .  :)

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: princessofpop on 04/29/03 at 06:35 p.m.


Quoting:
80s Madonna and Erotica Madonna .  :)
End Quote



My feelings exactly! ;)

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Ian on 05/01/03 at 00:34 a.m.

Definately the "old" Madonna.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: rip_jeans on 05/08/03 at 00:45 a.m.

Madonna of the 80's of course! Anybody see her performance of "Like A Virgin" on the MTV Music Awards? She always wanted to push the envelope to see what she could get away with. She doesn't do that anymore. She still hot.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: APS on 05/08/03 at 02:34 a.m.

The classic '80's Madonna.  8)

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Princesa on 05/08/03 at 10:21 p.m.

I prefer the 80s Madonna even though my favorite album of hers came out in the 90s..."Ray Of Light" is a masterpiece!

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Deemoe7301 on 05/10/03 at 01:23 a.m.

Quoting:
Old 80's Madonna.  The new Madonna looks old, trashy, like a throw-away of the old Madonna.  Her music is not exciting at all, does not sound fresh, or new.  No innovation.
End Quote

I totally agree!   Her Immaculate collection album speaks for itself.   I'm not feeling her new stuff at all.   CLASSIC...MADONNA...RULES!  ;D  :)

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Person on 05/13/03 at 06:47 a.m.

i like the overly spiritual one

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Deemoe7301 on 05/13/03 at 08:04 a.m.


Quoting:


I'd say that The Beatles are possibly the most overrated band in the history of popular music. I know I'll get slaughtered for saying this.  :-X
End Quote

You must be out of your mind!

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: wildblue on 05/14/03 at 09:54 a.m.

I like the 2 Madonnas.

I think the first part of her profissional life give us the opportunity to see how much she change and grow as artist.

She's still having her limitations as a singer and a dancer but now she has something really important to say and she can say it with the clothes on.

I have all her records and a great colletion of VHS tapes with all her tours. I'm a fan, but I have to admit that she isn't as brilliant as she wanted to be ::)

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Sean1983 on 05/15/03 at 10:20 p.m.

Definitely old Madonna in that her songs were infinitely more danceable and catchy.  Most importantly, it seems like a cliche nowadays when she courts controversy, more a publicity ploy rather than an artistic decision.  I haven't seen her American Life video and probably never will but it probably wouldn't have created such a splash or shockwave, much as many of her actions recently.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: FloydsGarage on 05/26/03 at 08:08 p.m.

Her best album IMO was "Like a Prayer",

but to me she was best in the "Like a Virgin" years.

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Criz on 05/27/03 at 05:07 a.m.


Quoting:

You must be out of your mind!
End Quote


I'd go visit the 'Before the 70s' board if you want to see what others have said on this topic. And no, I'm certainly not out of my mind  ;D There are many bands which in my opinion are better - I just never have got into the Beatles.

Anyway - back to Madonna... :)

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Deemoe7301 on 05/28/03 at 02:14 a.m.


Quoting:

I'd go visit the 'Before the 70s' board if you want to see what others have said on this topic. And no, I'm certainly not out of my mind  ;D There are many bands which in my opinion are better - I just never have got into the Beatles.

Anyway - back to Madonna... :)
End Quote

I love the Beatles...thats all I care about. ;) ...and 80's madonna rules!

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: kayhepburn on 07/24/03 at 03:31 a.m.

Looks wise - "Vogue" Madonna

Personality wise - New Madonna

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Bobby on 07/24/03 at 05:37 a.m.

I prefer old Madonna hands down. I loved all her old stuff 'Holiday','Like a virgin','Material Girl','Dear Jessie','Cherish','Lucky Star' . . . The list goes on.

Know we get covers of American Pie and the awful 'American Life' where she inexplicably tacks on a rap half way through.

Give me 'Live to tell' and 'Open your heart' anyday.  :)

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: bj26 on 07/24/03 at 09:57 a.m.

lol Philbo! I liked the old one when she was young. Funny though, in contrast to J-lo, Madonna really didn't appear to have much of a tush.  The camera shots in all her videos never feature her der re-air, it appears her legs attach right into her trunk.

Quoting:
But the "new" Madonna is old...

;-)

Phil
End Quote

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Hairspray on 07/24/03 at 10:34 a.m.


Quoting:
Funny though, in contrast to J-lo, Madonna really didn't appear to have much of a tush.  The camera shots in all her videos never feature her der re-air...
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In contrast to J-Lo? ? ? LOL! She's latina and latinos in general have more of a propensity to well-rounded tushes, as do african-americans. No offense at all intended, by the way. :)

To compare an anglo tush to J-Lo's, well, of course they'll look like they were smacked in the tush with a pan! :o ;D ;)

Oh, and Madonna does show some tush in some of her videos. 8)

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Howard on 07/25/03 at 07:38 p.m.

"Lucky Star"was my favorite video.That video made me a happy camper.just oogling at her luscious body and her belly button makes you wanna do a rasbperry on it. ;D :D

Howard

Subject: Re: Old or New Madonna?

Written By: Kellykoop on 07/25/03 at 11:03 p.m.

I liked the Lucky Star/Borderline Madonna best.