A lot of people don't realize this, but Jefferson Starship and Starship are two COMPLETELY different bands, not the same. The main difference is that Jefferson Starship rocks, whereas Starship sucks (in my opinion, no offence to those who like them). ;D

Jefferson Starship:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXmrMMYpQL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqLnVgR7fLw

Starship:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1b8AhIsSYQ

See the difference?

Hahahahahahhahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! People confusing the two is the greatest thing.

To be fair, Starship was "spun off" from Jefferson Starship.

Spun off like a feces Frisbee.

It is actually the same band, technically speaking.  Paul Kanter (who passed away last month) took legal action against the remaining members in 1984 over the Jefferson Starship name.  He won, which led to the band being forced to drop the Jefferson prefix.

People only hate Starship because it is common in popular media to hate them  They had fun songs that I grew up with and I still listen to their songs.

It is actually the same band, technically speaking.  Paul Kanter (who passed away last month) took legal action against the remaining members in 1984 over the Jefferson Starship name.  He won, which led to the band being forced to drop the Jefferson prefix.

People only hate Starship because it is common in popular media to hate them  They had fun songs that I grew up with and I still listen to their songs.

I'm fine with people liking Starship, but to me, they seem like every 80s musical cliche rolled into one. :P

A lot of people don't realize this, but Jefferson Starship and Starship are two COMPLETELY different bands, not the same. The main difference is that Jefferson Starship rocks, whereas Starship sucks. ;D

Jefferson Starship:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXmrMMYpQL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqLnVgR7fLw

Starship:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1b8AhIsSYQ

See the difference?


The difference are the sounds.

I'm fine with people liking Starship, but to me, they seem like every 80s musical cliche rolled into one. :P


Hey Zelek, you like Journey?

They're alright in a cheesy way. :P

One group had hits in the 60's and 70's and the other had hits in the 80's, That's one difference.

They're alright in a cheesy way. :P


Yeah, they've got some fun songs.

What about Boston? They seem up your alley!

They're good too.

You must be pretty into 70's rock. What else you into? Emerson, Lake and Palmer? Hall and Oates? Bachman Turner Overdrive? Fleetwood Mac?

What my dad is into, he passed down his music collection to me. :P

You must be pretty into 70's rock. What else you into? Emerson, Lake and Palmer? Hall and Oates? Bachman Turner Overdrive? Fleetwood Mac?


I'm into 70's Rock.

My favourite band of all-time is The Who.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoQTFQe0wTE

I'm guessing the maker of this show is one of those people who thinks Starship is the same band as Jefferson Starship.

Starship is the '80s band.

"Looking in your eyes I see a paradise
this world that I found is too good to be true
standing here beside you want so much to give you
this love in my heart that I'm feeling for you."----Nothing's gonna stop us now by Starship

*sigh* Now I want to listen to this song.

What my dad is into, he passed down his music collection to me. :P


I assume most of that is 70's rock, eh?


I'm into 70's Rock.


Me, too!


My favourite band of all-time is The Who.


Any specific era?

I assume most of that is 70's rock, eh?

Me, too!

Any specific era?

70s Who of course. My favourite albums by them (yes I know these are cliche choices):
Live at Leeds
Who's Next
Who By Numbers
Who Are You (yeah, I'm an oddball)

If you guys are interested, this was Jefferson Starship's bittersweet swan song:

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70s Who of course. My favourite albums by them (yes I know these are cliche choices):
Live at Leeds
Who's Next
Who By Numbers
Who Are You (yeah, I'm an oddball)


Not as cliched as saying something like Tommy is your favorite. :P

Spun off like a feces Frisbee.

Good one  ;D

I'm into 70's Rock.

Do you like "Lights" by Journey?

Starship is the '80s band.

"Looking in your eyes I see a paradise
this world that I found is too good to be true
standing here beside you want so much to give you
this love in my heart that I'm feeling for you."----Nothing's gonna stop us now by Starship

*sigh* Now I want to listen to this song.

I think most people only know them for that song. It makes me want to watch Mannequin though. I love that film.

Who else like's "Lights"? Its in my head now thanks to Jordan! 😜

Do you like "Lights" by Journey?


Yes, I like that song.

Good one  ;D


Thanks! ;)


Who else like's "Lights"? Its in my head now thanks to Jordan! 😜


Haha! My favorite Journey song is Anyway You Want it. It's super catchy! :D

Thanks! ;)

Haha! My favorite Journey song is Anyway You Want it. It's super catchy! :D


mine is "Open Arms".

I think most people only know them for that song. It makes me want to watch Mannequin though. I love that film.


It's one of my favorites <3

It's one of my favorites <3


I like Mannequin too.

I'm bumping this thread, because it was the start of a legendary running gag between me and Jordan.

For history's sake.

Two words: Marty Balin.

I like guys like Pitbull and Kanye West but they will never compete with the absolute masterpieces penned by the one and only Mickey Thomas. Starship is the greatest band of the 80's!

Two words: Marty Balin.


Who's he?  ???

I like guys like Pitbull and Kanye West but they will never compete with the absolute masterpieces penned by the one and only Mickey Thomas. Starship is the greatest band of the 80's!


and they have had plenty of hits throughout the 80's.

Starship's three albums from 1985-1989 are the original Star Wars trilogy of music.

Sometimes I have a hard time deciding which number 1 hit I like better...

We Built This City or Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now. They're both so good that I just don't know which one to pick! But I'll probably go with We Built This City due to how iconic it is. Forget Jefferson Airplane, Starship revolutionized music!

I'm most partial to the mid-70's Marty Balin era of Jefferson Starship.

Sure it might be light rock but it's also soulful and jazzy and I think Marty Balin has a fantastic voice.


Miracles (1975)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrxA4DcQw-Q

With Your Love (1976)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aZ7h7O_SBs

Sometimes I have a hard time deciding which number 1 hit I like better...

We Built This City or Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now. They're both so good that I just don't know which one to pick! But I'll probably go with We Built This City due to how iconic it is. Forget Jefferson Airplane, Starship revolutionized music!



I like Sara.

I like every Starship song. People will talk about the Jefferson bands but I believe that when they dropped the name and became Starship, that is when they really started to release quality.

I like every Starship song. People will talk about the Jefferson bands but I believe that when they dropped the name and became Starship, that is when they really started to release quality.


I WANT SOME OF WHATEVER YOU'RE SMOKING

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s78/AL-B_photos/cheech.gif

:D

The difference must be in the different band members used for each band?

I WANT SOME OF WHATEVER YOU'RE SMOKING

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s78/AL-B_photos/cheech.gif

:D



Can it be the same that inspired many a song from the 1960s?

Can it be the same that inspired many a song from the 1960s?


Go ask Alice, when she's ten feet tall.

Go ask Alice, when she's ten feet tall.
Eat me, drink me, smoke me?

Go ask Alice, when she's ten feet tall.
... ask her about the White Rabbit too?

I like every Starship song. People will talk about the Jefferson bands but I believe that when they dropped the name and became Starship, that is when they really started to release quality.


So why didn't they keep The "Jefferson" part? ???

So why didn't they keep The "Jefferson" part? ???



It is actually the same band, technically speaking.  Paul Kanter (who passed away last month) took legal action against the remaining members in 1984 over the Jefferson Starship name.  He won, which led to the band being forced to drop the Jefferson prefix.

... ask her about the White Rabbit too?


Remember what the dormouse said...

Remember what the dormouse said...
"Officer, these men are criminals! "

"Officer, these men are criminals! "


I'm sorry, the answer we were looking for is "feed your head."

I'm sorry, the answer we were looking for is "feed your head."
“I'm afraid I can't explain myself, sir. Because I am not myself, you see?”

No drugs. I'm just getting off the vibe that Starship brings... 8)

No drugs. I'm just getting off the vibe that Starship brings... 8)


To me, Jefferson/Starship/Airplane was like Aerosmith, their music was better when they were doing drugs.  ;D

Well, in the case of J/S/A, their mid-1970s stuff anyway. I've always thought that the Jefferson Airplane was a little too hippy-dippy for my tastes. :P

To me, Jefferson/Starship/Airplane was like Aerosmith, their music was better when they were doing drugs.  ;D

Well, in the case of J/S/A, their mid-1970s stuff anyway. I've always thought that the Jefferson Airplane was a little too hippy-dippy for my tastes. :P


I agree. Damn hippies! >:( Once they dropped the "Jefferson" and Paul Kantner left the band, Mickey Thomas started penning real masterpieces like We Built This City and Sara. 8)

I agree. Damn hippies! >:( Once they dropped the "Jefferson" and Paul Kantner left the band, Mickey Thomas started penning real masterpieces like We Built This City and Sara. 8)


Nah, they went downhill after Marty Balin left the band in 1978. ;)

If you go chasing rabbits, you know you're going to fall?

Nah, they went downhill after Marty Balin left the band in 1978. ;)


But that's pre-Mickey Thomas! :o

But that's pre-Mickey Thomas! :o


http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/d3/d3884573777c80bff020544f01f6dc15e9a6840e196ae07f754decc979a8a635.jpg

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/d3/d3884573777c80bff020544f01f6dc15e9a6840e196ae07f754decc979a8a635.jpg


No way could they have jumped the shark when Mickey Thomas hadn't even joined the band yet! They weren't even that good until Nuclear Furniture! Knee Deep in the Hoopla is their magnum opus. 8)

No way could they have jumped the shark when Mickey Thomas hadn't even joined the band yet! They weren't even that good until Nuclear Furniture! Knee Deep in the Hoopla is their magnum opus. 8)


Like Jefferson Starship, Mickey Thomas also peaked in 1976.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=g1LO3kNTJBw

;)

Like Jefferson Starship, Mickey Thomas also peaked in 1976.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=g1LO3kNTJBw

;)


What!? This isn't We Built This City!

What!? This isn't We Built This City!


It's just a part of the foundation upon which the city was built. ;)

It's just a part of the foundation upon which the city was built. ;)


Rock n Roll was invented purely for Mickey Thomas to utilize in a masterful way to create music's magnum opus in 1985. 8)

It's just a part of the foundation upon which the city was built. ;)
Was that when Marconi plays the mamba, listen to the radio, don't you remember?

Go ask Alice, when she's ten feet tall.
We are in for a treat today, for it would have been the 165th birthday of Alice Liddell, the inspiration for the children's classic Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll.

Rock n Roll was invented purely for Mickey Thomas to utilize in a masterful way to create music's magnum opus in 1985. 8)


I'VE GOT YOUR MAGNUM OPUS RIGHT HERE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dumOc5V_PcE

I agree. Damn hippies! >:( Once they dropped the "Jefferson" and Paul Kantner left the band, Mickey Thomas started penning real masterpieces like We Built This City and Sara. 8)


and "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now".

and "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now".
On our car trip this afternoon, the radio was on, and the third song to be played was "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now". Being on the radio shows that it is still a classic. It was stuck in my mind for a long time.

I'VE GOT YOUR MAGNUM OPUS RIGHT HERE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dumOc5V_PcE


This is the true Magnum Opus, my friend. 8)

K1b8AhIsSYQ

This is the true Magnum Opus, my friend. 8)

K1b8AhIsSYQ


http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s78/AL-B_photos/no-gif-baby-duck-saying-no-duckling-falling-asleep_zpsebwqc13z.gif

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2014/11/yes.jpg?w=630

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2014/11/yes.jpg?w=630


http://www.isharedthis.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/yekr6.jpg

;)

http://www.isharedthis.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/yekr6.jpg

;)
Does Leo know the difference?

8)

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2014/11/yes.jpg?w=630


Is that Jefferson Starship? ???

Is that Jefferson Starship? ???


No it's Yes.

Is that Jefferson Starship? ???
They look younger there?

No it's Yes.


Oh you mean the group Yes?

Yes.

Yes.
Definitely yes?

Yes.

Yes.



Yes?  ;D

http://www.shoreline.co/wp-content/uploads/YES-Band.jpg

Patrician band. :)

Their best album is clearly Open Your Eyes. It's right up there with classics such as Knee Deep in the Hoopla and Wheels Are Turnin'.

It was on this day in 1975, that Jefferson Starship gave a free concert in New York's Central Park in front of 60,000 fans. The band and concert sponsor, WNEW-FM, were forced to pay $14,000 for cleaning up and damage done to the park after the event.

As previously mentioned, Paul Kantner is the key difference, since he left the group right before it dropped the Jefferson in its name, and the '90s version as "Jefferson Starship: The Next Generation" also carried Kantner, and he was also one of the founding members of Jefferson Airplane.

The key to Starship is Mickey Thomas, since he has been touring since 1992 as "Starship featuring Mickey Thomas". He's  going on an '80s Rewind Tour this summer as a solo act with Naked Eyes, The Motels, Billy Ocean, and Taylor Dayne. As a result the promoters are billing Mickey as being part of Starship, despite joining the band in 1979 in the middle of the JS:TOB (the original band), but likely got that billing since his biggest hits came during that MTV-friendly phase. Interestingly, JS:TNG came after a brief, mostly reunited Jefferson Airplane during the final months of Starship.

Mickey Thomas is a hero.

Mickey Thomas is a hero.
Is he still performing today?

Is he still performing today?


He has 3 concerts coming up, one in Switzerland, Westbury Music Fair in Long Island, and Staten Island.

He has 3 concerts coming up, one in Switzerland, Westbury Music Fair in Long Island, and Staten Island.
He gets around?

Mickey Thomas never stops.

He gets around?


I know, he's a workhorse.

Mickey Thomas never stops.
good on him!

good on him!


may Starship go on for a long time. :)

Who is singing the cover version of "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" I keep hearing on the radio? The DJ never says anything?

may Starship go on for a long time. :)


I AGREE!!! 8) 8) 8)

Who had more hits? Jefferson Starship or Starship?  ???

Jefferson Starship with 17 Hot 100 entries  to just 11 with Starship.

The only 1 I can think of I like under "Starship" is Sara

I can't think of a Starship song that I don't like!!!!!!

The only 1 I can think of I like under "Starship" is Sara


I like "Sara" and "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now".

I like "Sara" and "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now".

Ya I guess thats as good as Sara is........

Ya I guess thats as good as Sara is........


I also like "Find Your Way Back".

Oh my Howard,I LOVE that song!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mostly, one was an early psychedelic rock band with a foundation in blues and folk, and the other was a purely pop band based on catchy tunes and heavy synthesizer.

I like both, and see them as the same.

But a lot of groups go through changes as members come and go.  Look at Pink Floyd pre and post Sid Barrett, Genesis pre-post the Peter Gabriel - Phil Collins changeover, the two that come most immediately to mind.  Both bands made large changes in their songs as one member left and another took over the "lead role".

And that can even happen without a name change.  Without knowing the band, listen to She Love You, Why Don't We Do It in the Road?, and The Long and Winding Road and try to imagine all 3 songs came in that order, in less than a decade.  All 3 very different from each other.

Ya I guess thats as good as Sara is........


I remember the music video. My mother loved that song!

I remember the music video. My mother loved that song!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32ScTb6_KHg