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Subject: Cops being 80s
Written By: Brendan McClelland on 07/13/06 at 10:34 am
Does Cops count as an 80s show?
Subject: Re: Cops being 80s
Written By: Davester on 07/13/06 at 8:24 pm
Do you want it to..? Seriously...
Just IMDBasted it and learned the show debuted in the early part of 1989 (didn't know that). Could be argued that it's an 80's show because the show (at least season one and probably season two) was concieved, written, produced, filmed, etc. before decade's end. The bulk of the show, however, was produced and filmed in the 90's, making Cops more of a 90's show...
While I've always enjoyed watching Cops I've never had the inclination to take mental notes of fashion, hairstyles, background music or any of the myriad decade specific trappings...
Me..? I prefer to call it a 90's show. I never watched Cops in 1989...
Subject: Re: Cops being 80s
Written By: Sister Morphine on 07/13/06 at 9:50 pm
The show started in the late 80s, but it's more of a 90s show, as that's when it hit it's peak with audiences.
Subject: Re: Cops being 80s
Written By: Donnie Darko on 07/13/06 at 9:57 pm
80s TV is focused on the late '80s, so it's both. The episodes from 1989, 1990, and 1991 will be more '80s, the '90s and '00s episodes more '90s. It's more of a '90s show, the attitude of the show is '90s.
Subject: Re: Cops being 80s
Written By: Davester on 07/13/06 at 10:10 pm
80s TV is focused on the late '80s, so it's both. The episodes from 1989, 1990, and 1991 will be more '80s, the '90s and '00s episodes more '90s. It's more of a '90s show, the attitude of the show is '90s.
That's what I don't understand...
What do you mean by 'the attitude of the show'..?
Subject: Re: Cops being 80s
Written By: whistledog on 07/13/06 at 10:54 pm
What do you mean by 'the attitude of the show'..?
I think he's just looking for an excuse to discuss Decadeology, which he seems to be veering off into
To me, Cops was a 90s show, regardless of the 1989 season
Subject: Re: Cops being 80s
Written By: Marty McFly on 07/13/06 at 11:07 pm
That's what I don't understand...
What do you mean by 'the attitude of the show'..?
Just the basic "feel" of it (real life crime situations, gritty street life/criminals, etc) was more something that was popular in the '90s. It was also the first reality Cop show, another thing that was very popular (and I also watched alot of ;) ) from about 1991-96.
Subject: Re: Cops being 80s
Written By: Davester on 07/13/06 at 11:36 pm
Just the basic "feel" of it (real life crime situations, gritty street life/criminals, etc) was more something that was popular in the '90s. It was also the first reality Cop show, another thing that was very popular (and I also watched alot of ;) ) from about 1991-96.
"Reality" also hit in the 90's. The dirtier, grittier real life crime situations are, essentially, a marriage of crime and reality TV. This doesn't seem necessarily a decades specific aspect but one of cinematography...
What about Miami Vice and Hill Street Blues? Just stripped down 90's crime with bad hair...
Am I wrong..?
Subject: Re: Cops being 80s
Written By: JamieMcBain on 07/14/06 at 9:48 am
It's a 90's TV show more than anything else.
Subject: Re: Cops being 80s
Written By: Donnie Darko on 07/14/06 at 3:03 pm
"Reality" also hit in the 90's. The dirtier, grittier real life crime situations are, essentially, a marriage of crime and reality TV. This doesn't seem necessarily a decades specific aspect but one of cinematography...
What about Miami Vice and Hill Street Blues? Just stripped down 90's crime with bad hair...
Am I wrong..?
Reality is a '00s thing.
Subject: Re: Cops being 80s
Written By: Sister Morphine on 07/14/06 at 3:25 pm
Reality is a '00s thing.
No, it's not. Reality TV started with Cops, America's Most Wanted, Unsolved Mysteries, Rescue 911, The Real World.....none of those shows started in the 00s.
Subject: Re: Cops being 80s
Written By: Donnie Darko on 07/14/06 at 3:29 pm
No, it's not. Reality TV started with Cops, America's Most Wanted, Unsolved Mysteries, Rescue 911, The Real World.....none of those shows started in the 00s.
There were 5 Reality shows in the '90s, compared to 500 in the '00s ;D
Subject: Re: Cops being 80s
Written By: whistledog on 07/14/06 at 3:32 pm
There were 5 Reality shows in the '90s, compared to 500 in the '00s ;D
500? Geez, how powerful is your satellite dish?
Subject: Re: Cops being 80s
Written By: velvetoneo on 07/14/06 at 3:42 pm
500? Geez, how powerful is your satellite dish?
I thought there was something said about stopping the snarky comments, which I've followed by up to this point...
But, anyway...
There probably are like 500 reality TV shows, or more, that have been on the air at one point on the '00s. It constitutes 50% of programming at this point. There were roughly 5 reality TV shows in the '90s. It's an "'00s thing" not because it started in the '00s or even the '90s; in fact, it started in the '40s with Allen Funt's Candid Camera and progressed with the invention of the game show. It's an "'00s thing" because it will be seen in the future as having exploded in popularity and being cool in the '00s, and it peaked around 2003, so it was a pop cultural movement peaking in the '00s.
Subject: Re: Cops being 80s
Written By: Donnie Darko on 07/14/06 at 3:44 pm
500? Geez, how powerful is your satellite dish?
You're on Candid Camera! ;D
I thought there was something said about stopping the snarky comments, which I've followed by up to this point...
But, anyway...
There probably are like 500 reality TV shows, or more, that have been on the air at one point on the '00s. It constitutes 50% of programming at this point. There were roughly 5 reality TV shows in the '90s. It's an "'00s thing" not because it started in the '00s or even the '90s; in fact, it started in the '40s with Allen Funt's Candid Camera and progressed with the invention of the game show. It's an "'00s thing" because it will be seen in the future as having exploded in popularity and being cool in the '00s, and it peaked around 2003, so it was a pop cultural movement peaking in the '00s.
Only one of the '90s Reality shows followed the '00s Game Show/Survivor reality format, The Real World. One show doesn't make Reality a staple of a decade, no matter how popular it is.
Subject: Re: Cops being 80s
Written By: velvetoneo on 07/14/06 at 3:46 pm
You're on Candid Camera! ;D
Only one of the '90s Reality shows followed the '00s Game Show/Survivor reality format, The Real World. One show doesn't make Reality a staple of a decade, no matter how popular it is.
Yeah, reality TV shows are an '00s television staple, along with hour-long primetime soaps and forensic/medical dramas. '90s television staples were sitcoms of all sorts, forensic/medical dramas, teen programming, and supernatural dramas.
Subject: Re: Cops being 80s
Written By: Davester on 07/14/06 at 6:47 pm
Reality is a '00s thing.
Okay, for the sake of arguement I'll concede that point. I rarely watch network television...
Refer to my original inquiry:
1. How does a television series "feel" different from one decade to the next..?
2. What does this "feel" have anything to do with what decade you choose to associate it with..?
There are many, many reasons for a change in character, pace, tempo, focus, or "feel" of TV series, especially a long running series...
Change of cast/major characters
Change of writers
Change of directors
Change of editors
Change of producers
Change of studio
Changes of plot/focus
Changes of cinematography
Changes in ratings status
Lapse in creativity
Changes in promotion
Budget constarints
Etc., etc...
Subject: Re: Cops being 80s
Written By: Bury_Manilow on 07/16/06 at 12:48 am
I thought there was something said about stopping the snarky comments, which I've followed by up to this point...
But, anyway...
There probably are like 500 reality TV shows, or more, that have been on the air at one point on the '00s. It constitutes 50% of programming at this point. There were roughly 5 reality TV shows in the '90s. It's an "'00s thing" not because it started in the '00s or even the '90s; in fact, it started in the '40s with Allen Funt's Candid Camera and progressed with the invention of the game show. It's an "'00s thing" because it will be seen in the future as having exploded in popularity and being cool in the '00s, and it peaked around 2003, so it was a pop cultural movement peaking in the '00s.
I remember watching a few episodes of the first season of Survivor and just having a dreadful thought that this type of programming would catch on, but nothing prepared me for the nightmare that was to come. I will admit to enjoying watching the show "Girls Behaving Badly"; it is a lot like the original Candid Camera, and I consider it one of the few "reality" shows out there.
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