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Subject: Pat Benatar
Written By: velvetoneo on 05/29/06 at 10:33 pm
Sort of one of my '80s guilty pleasures...I think "Love is a Battlefield" is a great song. I also think, along with Hall and Oates, Christopher Cross, Blondie, and Olivia Newton-John, she sort of defines the "early '80s sound": tight/minimalist production with cheesy old synths, a power-pop/pop-rock structure, and piano and electric guitar elements with a dynamic vocal.
Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: Ed216 on 05/29/06 at 10:49 pm
I don't understand your comment that she is a "guilty pleasure" of yours. She was very popular with lots of people. Myself included. She sold millions of albums. I liked several of her songs. Usually, if you say something is a guilty pleasure for you, it means that you like it while most people think it's bad and not done very well. Whether it's a tv show, musical act or movie or whatever. But she was really liked by lots of people, and many critics. So it's not like most of rock music fans thought she was horrible and she only had like a cult following. But yeah, I guess she was a defining sound in the 80s, but then again that's because she was popular. I don't think you can be influential unless other people like you. By the way, Love Is A Battlefied, is actually one song of hers I didn't care for!
Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: whistledog on 05/29/06 at 10:53 pm
I don't understand your comment that she is a "guilty pleasure" of yours. She was very popular with lots of people. Myself included. She sold millions of albums. I liked several of her songs. Usually, if you say something is a guilty pleasure for you, it means that you like it while most people think it's bad and not done very well. Whether it's a tv show, musical act or movie or whatever. But she was really liked by lots of people, and many critics. So it's not like most of rock music fans thought she was horrible and she only had like a cult following. But yeah, I guess she was a defining sound in the 80s, but then again that's because she was popular. I don't think you can be influential unless other people like you. By the way, Love Is A Battlefied, is actually one song of hers I didn't care for!
She did have lots of hits yes. I love so many of her songs, I like "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" the most purely for the Canadian Content (the song was written by Canadian singer Eddie Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: velvetoneo on 05/29/06 at 10:54 pm
I don't understand your comment that she is a "guilty pleasure" of yours. She was very popular with lots of people. Myself included. She sold millions of albums. I liked several of her songs. Usually, if you say something is a guilty pleasure for you, it means that you like it while most people think it's bad and not done very well. Whether it's a tv show, musical act or movie or whatever. But she was really liked by lots of people, and many critics. So it's not like most of rock music fans thought she was horrible and she only had like a cult following. But yeah, I guess she was a defining sound in the 80s, but then again that's because she was popular. I don't think you can be influential unless other people like you. By the way, Love Is A Battlefied, is actually one song of hers I didn't care for!
I mean people my age. She's one of those '80s artists who hasn't been reappropriated in the '80s revival.
Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: Marty McFly on 05/29/06 at 10:58 pm
Yeah, I always kinda considered her a hard rock Sheena Easton or Laura Branigan - again, very "early MTVish".
My favorite song of hers is probably "Invincible" - which is more pure mid '80s synthesized pop/rock, although the first one I knew was "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" which I still like.
Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: Ed216 on 05/29/06 at 11:05 pm
I mean people my age. She's one of those '80s artists who hasn't been reappropriated in the '80s revival.
Oh, I gotcha. How old are you if you don't mind me asking? I'm 37. I was 11 in 1980 and 20 in 1989. So, I was in my teens when she at the height of her popularity. And of course, when you are in your teens is mostly when you are discovering rock and pop music. I thought she was one of the best rock/pop female singers in the 80s. The last I heard, she was doing lots of jazz/bluesy kind of music. I think I saw her on tv somewhere a few years ago, and she still looks good! My 2 favorite songs of hers would have to be Hit Me With Your Best Shot, and We Belong. I also really love Heartbreaker. Not to be confused with the Dionne Warwick hit with the same title. Totally different song!
Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: velvetoneo on 05/29/06 at 11:06 pm
Yeah, I always kinda considered her a hard rock Sheena Easton or Laura Branigan - again, very "early MTVish".
My favorite song of hers is probably "Invincible" - which is more pure mid '80s synthesized pop/rock, although the first one I knew was "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" which I still like.
I really like "We Live for Love", "Hell is for Children", "Invincible", "Promises in the Dark", etc. Most of her hit singles are very good. She sort of came out of that late '70s NYC pop-punk scene that actually produced Madonna and Cyndi Lauper as well...though she is very much a "hard rock" Sheena Easton or Laura Branigan. She was probably an influence on the pop hard-rock of Bon Jovi and such, even though Foreigner had done it before.
Oh, you're a "peak Gen Xer"...I think of people born around 1969 as being THE most Gen X. I'm 16, I was born in early 1990.
Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: Marty McFly on 05/29/06 at 11:11 pm
Oh, I gotcha. How old are you if you don't mind me asking? I'm 37. I was 11 in 1980 and 20 in 1989. So, I was in my teens when she at the height of her popularity. And of course, when you are in your teens is mostly when you are discovering rock and pop music. I thought she was one of the best rock/pop female singers in the 80s. The last I heard, she was doing lots of jazz/bluesy kind of music. I think I saw her on tv somewhere a few years ago, and she still looks good! My 2 favorite songs of hers would have to be Hit Me With Your Best Shot, and We Belong. I also really love Heartbreaker. Not to be confused with the Dionne Warwick hit with the same title. Totally different song!
I've said this tons before, but I find it VERY interesting that alot of people around your age (i.e. '80s teens) are attached to stuff from your high school-ish years, while alot of '80s and '90sborn folks are attached to what came around in their childhood.
That's how I am - I actually was old enough to remember the second half of the '80s to some extent, but my "nostalgic" years are roughly 1985/86-97. Especially when I was under 14.
Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: velvetoneo on 05/29/06 at 11:13 pm
I've said this tons before, but I find it VERY interesting that alot of people around your age (i.e. '80s teens) are attached to stuff from your high school-ish years, while alot of '80s and '90sborn folks are attached to what came around in their childhood.
That's how I am - I actually was old enough to remember the second half of the '80s to some extent, but my "nostalgic" years are roughly 1985/86-97. Especially when I was under 14.
Yeah, the things that I like the best are from the '80s and early-mid '90s, the period before my birth and my childhood, along with some scattered late '60s and '70s things.
Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: Marty McFly on 05/29/06 at 11:22 pm
Yeah, the things that I like the best are from the '80s and early-mid '90s, the period before my birth and my childhood, along with some scattered late '60s and '70s things.
I wonder if it was video games that helped "seal" it earlier in life? I guess for '80s kids like me, it was NES and stuff, and for '90s kids like yourself, it was that combined with the Internet a little later on, although I think 1975-92ers or so all kind of shares that "suburban era" childhood.
Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: Badfinger-fan on 05/29/06 at 11:26 pm
I had the pleasure of seeing Pat Benatar in concert back in 1997, well past the 80's, and it was one of the best rock shows I've been to. It was at The Fillmore in San Francisco and while Pat is an incredible vocalist, her husband and lead guitarist Neil Giraldo damn near stole the show. He is truly a gifted fret-master. She sang all of her hits and gave a passionate performance. The cool thing about the Fillmore is that it's not too big, and there are only a few seats on the side, so you're standing the whole show, but you can get very close, and we did. She was about 10-15 yards away. Pat rocks http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/12/headbang.gif my favorite songs are 'All Fired Up'. 'We Belong', 'Heartbreaker' & 'Hit Me With Your Best Shot'
Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: Ed216 on 05/29/06 at 11:33 pm
I really like "We Live for Love", "Hell is for Children", "Invincible", "Promises in the Dark", etc. Most of her hit singles are very good. She sort of came out of that late '70s NYC pop-punk scene that actually produced Madonna and Cyndi Lauper as well...though she is very much a "hard rock" Sheena Easton or Laura Branigan. She was probably an influence on the pop hard-rock of Bon Jovi and such, even though Foreigner had done it before.
Oh, you're a "peak Gen Xer"...I think of people born around 1969 as being THE most Gen X. I'm 16, I was born in early 1990.
Gee thanks, now I feel so old! You really know how to hurt a guy! :\'( Just kidding!
I find it interesting, and I don't think many people know this, but Benatar is not her real last name. I'm into trivia like that. Her real last name is Andrzejewski. I'm not sure how you pronounce that. Anyway, she married her high school sweetheart at 19, and his last name was Benatar. And she just always kept it, even after she married that second husband of hers, Neil something but I forget. But you have to admit Benatar sounds more like a rock singer name than Andrzejewski! And I mean no offense to anyone who might be of Polish background, because I myself have some Polish blood in me. But we all know we are all Americans! Rock on!
Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: MaxwellSmart on 05/29/06 at 11:40 pm
Sort of one of my '80s guilty pleasures...I think "Love is a Battlefield" is a great song. I also think, along with Hall and Oates, Christopher Cross, Blondie, and Olivia Newton-John, she sort of defines the "early '80s sound": tight/minimalist production with cheesy old synths, a power-pop/pop-rock structure, and piano and electric guitar elements with a dynamic vocal.
Pat Benatar was great. I never bought her records, but I always enjoyed her hits. The one you mentioned "Love is a Battlefield" was probably her last really big hit, unless there's one I'm forgetting. Anyway, "Love is a Battlefield" is my personal favorite. The video was dumb, but the song expressed a lot pain and passion.
Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: Ed216 on 05/29/06 at 11:45 pm
I had the pleasure of seeing Pat Benatar in concert back in 1997, well past the 80's, and it was one of the best rock shows I've been to. It was at The Fillmore in San Francisco and while Pat is an incredible vocalist, her husband and lead guitarist Neil Giraldo damn near stole the show. He is truly a gifted fret-master. She sang all of her hits and gave a passionate performance. The cool thing about the Fillmore is that it's not too big, and there are only a few seats on the side, so you're standing the whole show, but you can get very close, and we did. She was about 10-15 yards away. Pat rocks http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/12/headbang.gif my favorite songs are 'All Fired Up'. 'We Belong', 'Heartbreaker' & 'Hit Me With Your Best Shot'
Oh yeah, All Fired Up. I love that one too. I'd forgotten about that one, but then I haven't heard it in quite a while. Thanks for reminding me, that's another favorite song of mine from her. Someone else mentioned Invincible, which is also a great song. And if I remember right, it was from the soundtrack of this movie The Legend Of Billie Joe, or was it Bobbie Jo? No wait it was Billie Jean right? Anyway, if I remember right All Fired Up actually did better on the music charts than the movie did at the box office! How embarrassing for the movie studio. And if I'm wrong, I'm sorry, I'm probably thinking about some other song.
Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: whistledog on 05/29/06 at 11:47 pm
Pat Benatar was great. I never bought her records, but I always enjoyed her hits.
I had to take a second look. For a second, I thought you said something else ;D
Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: Badfinger-fan on 05/29/06 at 11:53 pm
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Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: MaxwellSmart on 05/29/06 at 11:59 pm
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Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: whistledog on 05/30/06 at 12:05 am
Figgers you would, considering your avatar.
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Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: CatwomanofV on 05/30/06 at 11:38 am
I LOVE the entire Crimes of Passion album.
1. Treat Me Right
2. You Better Run
3. Never Wanna Leave You
4. Hit Me With Your Best Shot
5. Hell Is For Children
6. Little Paradise
7. I'm Gonna Follow You
8. Wuthering Heights
9. Prisoner Of Love
10. Out-A-Touch
Other songs that I love that are not on that album:
Heartbreaker
Fire and Ice
Love is a Battlefield (I agree with Max, the video was dumb)
Invincible
Shadows of the Night
Promises in the Dark
Cat
Subject: Re: Pat Benatar
Written By: Dukefan on 06/02/06 at 7:52 pm
I'm a huge Benetar fan myself. Just bought her Greatest Hits album...haven't skipped a track on it yet.
She's one of those '80s artists who hasn't been reappropriated in the '80s revival.
I've noticed this as well. She seems to be forgotten in relation to the decade.
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