What '80s bands just totally sucked?

ABC "Tell me, tell me, HOW TO BE, a mil-li-yon-nairrrrrre"  ;D
Styx "Domo arigato Mr. Roboto"
Foreigner "I want to know what love is .... I WANT YOU TO SHOW ME!"
Human League .... so so cheesy

Air Supply
Journey
Winger
Milli Vanilli (more of a manufactured pop act)
New Kids on the Block (see Milli Vanilli, though they did sang)

Most of the metal bands in the 80's were awful.  There were a few good metal songs, but all in all, groups like Poison, Metallica, Winger .. they all sucked

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Agreed.

Actually, I hate metal in general, except for Linkin Park, System of a Down, and Disturbed, which barely counts anyways.


Those three bands I wouldn't call metal.  They are more Alternative Rock :)

Zodiac Mindwarp & The Love Reaction -BLGGGGHHHHH!!
BROS
Indecent Obsession
NKOTB

Zodiac Mindwarp & The Love Reaction -BLGGGGHHHHH!!


I'm with you on that one.  That song 'Prime Mover' is horrible

Agreed.

Actually, I hate metal in general, except for Linkin Park, System of a Down, and Disturbed, which barely counts anyways.

Man those ain't metal bands you mentioned, they're all just poser try hard bands that can't play their instrumments for sh!t.
Metal has retreated into the underground  & for good reason, all that mainstream crap that that kiddies call heavy rock is by no means heavy metal. Man i wouldn't even call any of that stuff Alternative rock because that would be an insult to alternative music.
It's fair enough if you hate metal from the 80s & if you're into all those "non-musician" trend bands that are posing in there their latest fashions that 13 year olds are into , but just don't call it something it's not.  Exodus is metal, Slayer is Metal, but "Linkin"(spelling?) Park, System Of A Down & Disturbed are a joke & that stuff is for teeny boppers.
Anyone over 25 listening to that stuff is probably the kind of person who's parents wouldn't allow them exposure to very much back then or even let them wipe their own ass without supervision so they are only catching up  & develping their own musical identity now & that's their distorted idea heavy music. Welcome to Al & Tipper Gore's  PMRC wet dream. How do i know this? because i know someone exactly like what i just described & it's pretty sad. ::)

Anyhow back to the topic at hand, some people mentioned some pretty valid additions to truely awful pop bands if you could even call them band's, but the worst bands from that 80s that i just can't stand are Bon Jovi & Europe, but easpecially Bon Jovi.

There's actually a few 80's bands that I didn't like back then but I've since warmed to. These are not some of them:

Wham! Gayest. Group. Ever.

New Kids on the Block: I'll never forget the very first time I saw the New Kids, on "Friday Night Videos."  I actually started getting angry.  I knew guys my age who liked these creeps and I have to say I wondered about them. However, both Donnie and Mark Wahlberg have managed to earn my respect as actors, despite my hatred of both NKOTB and Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch.

Poison: I especially hated them back then, and it's a mystery to me why they're still selling out concerts today. However, they've since admitted freely that they were in it solely for the money and the poontang, and in a weird way I can respect that.

Air Supply: It frightens me that people actually had sex  while listening to Air Supply.

Michael Bolton: It frightens me even more that people had sex while listening to Michael Bolton. Three words: REALLY STUPID CHILDREN.

Kenny G: When I was in the Army, I was hanging out in a friend's room in the barracks, and my buddy's like, "Shhhh! Listen!" In the next room over was a guy and a girl from my company, and when I put my ear up to the wall I could hear moans of pleasure with Kenny G playing in the background. This also really frightened me.

Madonna: Most overrated act in the history of pop music.

Journey, Foreigner and REO Speedwagon: Bands that kicked ass in the 70's that turned completely sappy in the 80's.

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Tiffany, her voice was too thin and annoying  :P


And not because I like another singer (though far more talented and prettier) from that era...  ::)

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I only really like Iron Maiden and some Metallica. I do have to say, the awful "hair metal" bands from the 80s are better than about 90% of the junk that's considered metal put out after 1995.  :P


Um, I don't know about that.  I think Limp Bizkit and Warrant are about a draw  ;D 

Mushroomhead are the only modern metal band I like, but I think even they began in like 1994.

These days, I don't even know the difference between Metal, or Alternative Rock

Hell, I don't even know what Death Metal or Speed Metal is  :-[

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Bands I HATE:

Anything thats metal.

Now, by metal, Im not talking about bands like Metalica (yes theyre metal, but thats about as far as I go with that kind of crap music), Guns N Roses, Poison, Bon Jovi, Van Halen,Warrant, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabath and Ozzy, and all those others...

Gimme ROCK bands who know how to diversify. They can sing good hard rock and softer rock ballards.

Personally, I dont like many people who are into metal. To me, the great majority of these people think they are rebels, only they dont have a lot to rebel against. I do understand the people who like that kind of music because it is an outlet, but those who like it because its 'cool' or because it makes them an individual or their friends think its cool, are more posers than those bands who they claim are posers.

Bands like Bon Jovi, Poison, Warrant, etc are NOT posers because they are doing what they enjoy and have never once said that they were metal or heavy rock bands. They produce music that people like...So when people who winge or complain about bands that they call 'posers', just remember, they probably havnt released an album, or a single, let alone one thats sold enough to make an impact.

Now, Im not having a go at anyone here, Im just making a point.


Back to the topic...



Bands/groups that are awful 80's groups/bands:


Aha






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Is there a difference?  ;D


Speed Metal is Slipknot-type stuff, stuff that rap-rocks.  Death metal is screaming metal, like Soulfly.

That's true.  But Metallica are the only metal band I like.  Who wants to listen to music that makes you feel like you're being beaten up and yelled at?  ;D


Or who wants to listen to groups that maked you so depressed that you contemplate suicide (IE: Alternative)???

Speed Metal is Slipknot-type stuff, stuff that rap-rocks.   Death metal is screaming metal, like Soulfly.

LOL, LMFAO oh man, Slipknot is speed metal??? LOL, Soulfly is death metal??? LOL.
Dude you really need to re-educate yourself on those genres & possibly music all together.
Slayer is a good example of speed metal & Morbid Angel or Cannibal Corpse are examples of death metal.
Slipknot & Soulfly are really bad disneycore cheap rip offs of that music that MTV pumps money into & it's all marketed & made more palletable to a youth demographic by using gimmicks, raps & image to imply that the music is "supposedly hardcore". It almost reminds me of a bad spinoffs of TV shows that work untill the cheap spinoff kills the original concept all together LOL. Whereas the bands true to the genres (or should i say sub-genres) you speak of let the music speak for itself & leave the acting to hollywood & posers like Slipknot.

Personally, I dont like many people who are into metal. To me, the great majority of these people think they are rebels, only they dont have a lot to rebel against. I do understand the people who like that kind of music because it is an outlet, but those who like it because its 'cool' or because it makes them an individual or their friends think its cool, are more posers than those bands who they claim are posers.



I'll have to agree with you on that comment.
It's definitly an outlet & not a thing that should be done as a rebelion thing. Besides there ain't much to rebel against when you are between 25 to 30 or even older.
Although i must say that in this day & age one is somewhat indivdual if they are a metal head since we are a rare breed now, not that idividuallity is a reason one gets into it either. I think i'm possibly the only person in my suburb/town who's even into metal, so it's not like impressing my peers is motivation either. The only people i know that share my tastes are some of the friends i've met at gigs & clubs that cater to that scene & obvoiusly i was into it long before i met them or i obviously wouldn't have met them in these places or wouldn't have been there to begin with.
Also being a metal head is ultra uncool in this day & age, so if anyone chose to get into it because they think it might make them cool, they would be totally deluding themselves. Metal heads are among the most hated people in society, so welcome to my world.
I'm personally into it because that's what i like, always have, always will & that's what i'm comfortable with.
Personally i'm not bothered by some of those more light hearted bands that are about having a good time because i'm generally a fan of rock music, but i just can't stand Bon Jovi, they really really get on my nerves. Their music is like a sedative combined with a laxative. I like some mellow music & some music that actually is diverse, but you can keep all those tacky ballads &  furthermore doing one or 2 ballads an album (or a whole album of ballads like Bon Jovi) doesn't constitute as being particularily diverse or dynamic either.

BTW Metallica also gets on my nerves aswell & i was already over that band by 1989 or 1990.  I'm tired of d**kheads walking up to me in the street & just 'cause i have long hair the first thing they usually ask me is "so you into Metallica?". I'm seriously at the point where i want to punch the next person who asks me that question.
So many better metal bands out there, that don't even get one tenth of the recognition they do & they aren't even anything special. What used to annoy me the most about them though is that they were in almost every issue of every metal magazine & even some not so metal music magazines from 1991 to 1996 & yet they hadn't released one single new peice of music since 1991. When they finally did release something new it was absolutle crap & it just continued to get worse from there onwards. Oh & who could forget the Napster thing, what a joke. One of the most over-rated bands in history.

I'll have to agree with you on that comment.
It's definitly an outlet & not a thing that should be done as a rebelion thing. Besides there ain't much to rebel against when you are between 25 to 30 or even older.
Although i must say that in this day & age one is somewhat indivdual if they are a metal head since we are a rare breed now, not that idividuallity is a reason one gets into it either. I think i'm possibly the only person in my suburb/town who's even into metal, so it's not like impressing my peers is motivation either. The only people i know that share my tastes are some of the friends i've met at gigs & clubs that cater to that scene & obvoiusly i was into it long before i met them or i obviously wouldn't have met them in these places or wouldn't have been there to begin with.
Also being a metal head is ultra uncool in this day & age, so if anyone chose to get into it because they think it might make them cool, they would be totally deluding themselves. Metal heads are among the most hated people in society, so welcome to my world.
I'm personally into it because that's what i like, always have, always will & that's what i'm comfortable with.
Personally i'm not bothered by some of those more light hearted bands that are about having a good time because i'm generally a fan of rock music, but i just can't stand Bon Jovi, they really really get on my nerves. Their music is like a sedative combined with a laxative. I like some mellow music & some music that actually is diverse, but you can keep all those tacky ballads &  furthermore doing one or 2 ballads an album (or a whole album of ballads like Bon Jovi) doesn't constitute as being particularily diverse or dynamic either.

BTW Metallica also gets on my nerves aswell & i was already over that band by 1989 or 1990.  I'm tired of d**kheads walking up to me in the street & just 'cause i have long hair the first thing they usually ask me is "so you into Metallica?". I'm seriously at the point where i want to punch the next person who asks me that question.
So many better metal bands out there, that don't even get one tenth of the recognition they do & they aren't even anything special. What used to annoy me the most about them though is that they were in almost every issue of every metal magazine & even some not so metal music magazines from 1991 to 1996 & yet they hadn't released one single new peice of music since 1991. When they finally did release something new it was absolutle crap & it just continued to get worse from there onwards. Oh & who could forget the Napster thing, what a joke. One of the most over-rated bands in history.







So....







Are you into Metallica???












Sorry I couldnt resist.





I do agree with you on Metallica though. While I still do like their later stuff, their 80's albums were the best.

In the 80's I had the long hair and all the trappings that go with being a 'metalhead', but I wasnt doing it because I was into metal music...Dont get me wrong, I liked, and still do like, metal music, but I am also into a wide variety of musical styles. You only have to look at an old compilation tape of mine from the late 80's early 90's. I have Deciples Of The Watch and The Thing That Should Not Be mixed in with Beat It and I Love The Nightlife (Disco In The Round), and they were mixed in with Elvis Presely, Frank Sinatra and Gene Kelly, and they were mixed in with Brahms and Beethoven.

I was never one to follow the prescribed 'rule' (well it was a rule here in Australia) that if you liked metal you couldnt like disco and vice versa. To me, good music was, and always will be, good music, no matter the style.

Some times I feel like listening to a power ballard or a 'glam rock' song, so Ill listen to Bon Jovi; other times Ill feel like listening to classical music, so Tschaikovsky  (Sp?) will get play from me; other times I feel like listening to disco, heavy metal, hard rock etc, and Ill play those styles.

My philospohy has always been to never limit my field of choice simply because I want to identify with a certain style. Hell, last year I bought a Pussycat Dolls single...

If the music appeals to me, Ill buy it, no matter of the style or genre.







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So....







Are you into Metallica???












Sorry I couldnt resist.





I do agree with you on Metallica though. While I still do like their later stuff, their 80's albums were the best.

In the 80's I had the long hair and all the trappings that go with being a 'metalhead', but I wasnt doing it because I was into metal music...Dont get me wrong, I liked, and still do like, metal music, but I am also into a wide variety of musical styles. You only have to look at an old compilation tape of mine from the late 80's early 90's. I have Deciples Of The Watch and The Thing That Should Not Be mixed in with Beat It and I Love The Nightlife (Disco In The Round), and they were mixed in with Elvis Presely, Frank Sinatra and Gene Kelly, and they were mixed in with Brahms and Beethoven.

I was never one to follow the prescribed 'rule' (well it was a rule here in Australia) that if you liked metal you couldnt like disco and vice versa. To me, good music was, and always will be, good music, no matter the style.

Some times I feel like listening to a power ballard or a 'glam rock' song, so Ill listen to Bon Jovi; other times Ill feel like listening to classical music, so Tschaikovsky  (Sp?) will get play from me; other times I feel like listening to disco, heavy metal, hard rock etc, and Ill play those styles.

My philospohy has always been to never limit my field of choice simply because I want to identify with a certain style. Hell, last year I bought a Pussycat Dolls single...

If the music appeals to me, Ill buy it, no matter of the style or genre.







AN

Fair enough. I was never one for rules either. I call my self a metal head cause when people ask what music i'm into that's the easiest way to explain it, cause that's definitly my dominant taste & it's what i grew up with from 9 years old onwards & what i listen to the most. It has definitly stayed with me. You should see my Classic Rock & Pop (Various) folder or my 80s Pop (Various) folder on my hard drive. I have stuff like The Beatles & Monster Mash by Bobby Picket & The Crypt Kickers & tonnes of 80s new wave & lots of other stuff most people would never think a "metal head" would have on their hard drive, but that's the beauty of it, i think it was Dave Mustaine of Megadeth that once said that metal was never about rules. Hell it's life anyone can do what ever they want. I can only listen to this various other stuff when i'm really in the mood though or when i'm feeling a little nostalgic about the 80s or 70s. A lot of it was just stuff that was on the radio when i was growing up or stuff i'd hear on the radio in the car on long trips with my parents.
To be honest though i really don't know why i have long hair though, i've never really thought about it that much, but it's definitly not just an identifiable uniform thing cause of meta,l although that might be have played some small part. I think it's a little more complicated than that.  I think it's 2 reasons, firstly cause when i was a little kid in the very late 70s i always thought long hair looked sick & i liked it & wanted to grow it more than anything, but my folks would never allow it. So that pretty much would have layed the ground work there. And secondly cause when i was in highschool in the early 90s most guys in my school wore really long hair wiith undercuts which suited me just fine, so i guess it's something that's stayed with me since then & something i've always been comfortable with.
As for the rivalry between metal & disco that you mentioned, that was universal & was like that all around the world & not just in Australia (I'm from Victoria myself). It was really rock Vs disco. That's why you had this thing in the 70s that almost became an institution in a way, & the thing i'm talking about is the Disco Sucks t-shirts. Go & rent a movie called Detroit Rock City, that movie depicts that rivalry quite well. It was set in the 70s but it came out in the 90s.
Anyhow i'm getting off the topic now.

Stryper was an awful 80s band, i thought they were laughable even back then.

I have a friend who says she's "totally into the 80s" musically, but she has never heard of much of the stuff I used to listen to.  We got into a discussion about it and she got slightly offensive when I said she was into "80s pop" because "I like Bon Jovi and Def Leppard", but admitted she didn't really like Whitesnake, Great White, Metallica, Megadeth and other "hair bands" as well as Depeche Mode, the Cure or Nine Inch Nails and had never even heard of Faster Pussycat or Yngwie Malmsteen ::)

I can understand your frustration.

I remember being bewildered that the Warrant song "Heaven" was doing so well back in '89.

Culture Club's songs are pretty ordinary, looking back now. So are most of Duran Duran's songs.

Slayer was and is a laughable band also. They took the stupid "satanic" gimmick to an all out ridiculous extreme. They were mediocre players who could hold a few notes, but with those stupid lyrics they lost all credibility for me.

I do agree that Metallica were decent back in the day. They had much more intelligent lyrics than the Slayer type bands and their "cookie cutter" spinoff bands. But now they down right suck.

I love some of those "hair bands" but thought the extremist type groups in that genre' such as the Vinnie Vincent Invasion, Nitro, and Posion when they first came out (they brought looking like chicks to a new level) weren't worth much.

Stryper was and is a great bunch of musicians as well as guys and it's unfortunate they get judged so hard just because they sing about something that doesn't always fit in the mold of what is "cool" with hard rock or "metal". I think people should just give them a flippin' break now and then. They took more crap back in the 80s then most bands would ever endure and stuck to their guns. Gotta respect them for that at least.

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Slayer was and is a laughable band also. They took the stupid "satanic" gimmick to an all out ridiculous extreme. They were mediocre players who could hold a few notes, but with those stupid lyrics they lost all credibility for me.

I do agree that Metallica were decent back in the day. They had much more intelligent lyrics than the Slayer type bands and their "cookie cutter" spinoff bands. But now they down right suck.

I love some of those "hair bands" but thought the extremist type groups in that genre' such as the Vinnie Vincent Invasion, Nitro, and Posion when they first came out (they brought looking like chicks to a new level) weren't worth much.

Stryper was and is a great bunch of musicians as well as guys and it's unfortunate they get judged so hard just because they sing about something that doesn't always fit in the mold of what is "cool" with hard rock or "metal". I think people should just give them a flippin' break now and then. They took more crap back in the 80s then most bands would ever endure and stuck to their guns. Gotta respect them for that at least.

I'm not into Slayer because of the Satan thing, to be honest that's not really my thing. I have to agree on one point, the whole satan thing is a bit silly to me, but they were obviously catering to a demographic, you have to admit it was a popular theme in metal back then & even hair bands did it. Satan means didly squat in the music industry though, especially these days.
You're right though Slayer aren't the most musically technical band, just fast. I'm mainly into em because they took the whole punk thing beefed it up & added chaotic break neck speed solos, that's why i like they're music it's chaotic without losing too much considering just how chaotic it is & they don't go overboard like most death metal bands which are just way too noisy even for me. Not to mention the fact that they are one of the tightest bands i've ever seen live. One of the few bands i've seen that can actually play the music live as it is on the albums note for note.
Now i'm not knockin hair bands, hell i even grew up listening to a lot of it, but i recently went to see Motley Crue live & musically they sucked. To say they were mediocre would be an understatement. Vince mixed up some lines in a song & got it wrong & he also sounded terrible.  Motorhead were supporting & they were 1000 times better, but they were really really f**kin loud.
As for Stryper i don't think they are laughable because they are a christian band, i just think they are laughable simply because they are. If Slayer is so laughable & Stryper is not why is it that Slayer has more musical integrity. Not that i give a sh!t since that's just your opinion, so i don't even know why i really felt the need to defend them. If i had to weigh up hair bands Vs Slayer on a the level of crassness of the subject matter & lyrical content, i''ll take Slayer any day over the hair bands.
BTW Vinnie Vincent is an exellent guitarist, i have most of the Invasion stuff on Vinyl.

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I have to disagree about both Poison and Metallica...IMO Metallica kicked A$$(and still do!)and Poison had some good stuff like "Something to Believe In".....

Besides Metallica has one of my fave guitarists..Kirk Hammett!!

Marty Friedman & Dave Mustaine blow Kirk Hammet out of the water.
Kill Em All is the only Metallica album i like & Dave Mustaine influenced the sound on that majorly & you can really hear it if you compare it to the other albums they did & he was bearly even credited for it & they treated him like a leper. Kicking him out was the best thing they ever did though cause that gave him the push that he needed to go & form a much better band.

Well, I've been avoiding coming into this one really because I was a huge Glam Metal fan and fear getting my head snarled off !  :-\\
I'm the first to agree that a lot of them were shockingly bad, complete crap to be honest,(Winger for example in my opinion).However there were some bloody good Glam bands out there and I get irritated that there has always been this idea that just because of the makeup and big hair they must all be crap.

I was also into a lot of thrash and loved Overkill, Anthrax and Armoured Saint for example. So I feel I can disagree that 'Kill 'em all' was the only good Metallica album. I think 'Ride the lightning' is a brilliant album. There again I couldn't stand Dave Mustaine as a person or a musician, it's all down to personal choice really.

Strangely enough I was playing an assorted Glam-ish type cd the other day and said to my other half, who was a huge death metal fan at the time 'Do you think you would have asked me out if we would have known each other then?' and he said 'Almost definatly not' so it only goes to show I suppose how people and tastes change or something.I'll stop now before I start rambling..........

Well, I've been avoiding coming into this one really because I was a huge Glam Metal fan and fear getting my head snarled off !  :-\\
I'm the first to agree that a lot of them were shockingly bad, complete crap to be honest,(Winger for example in my opinion).However there were some bloody good Glam bands out there and I get irritated that there has always been this idea that just because of the makeup and big hair they must all be crap.

I was also into a lot of thrash and loved Overkill, Anthrax and Armoured Saint for example. So I feel I can disagree that 'Kill 'em all' was the only good Metallica album. I think 'Ride the lightning' is a brilliant album. There again I couldn't stand Dave Mustaine as a person or a musician, it's all down to personal choice really.

Strangely enough I was playing an assorted Glam-ish type cd the other day and said to my other half, who was a huge death metal fan at the time 'Do you think you would have asked me out if we would have known each other then?' and he said 'Almost definatly not' so it only goes to show I suppose how people and tastes change or something.I'll stop now before I start rambling..........


Metallica = annoying & over rated. Musically or not they have about as much intgrrity as a 10 dollar hooker. Besides who attacks their own fans with a law suit, what a slap in the face. Does that mean that even though i already bought & payed for their first four albums on vinyl back when they first came out that i should be prosecuted just because i might want to download a few of their songs for easy access on my PC or mp3 player?  People b*tch & moan about Dave Mustaine changing his "own personal" beliefs & becoming a christian While noone hardly says anything about what Metallica did to their own fans who continue to blindly follow. What short memories people have. In the scale of things what's worse & what matters more. It's unfortunate that there is a bit of a bovine mentallity in the metal scene & as much as i hate to admit it a mojority of metal heads are total idiots. That's probably all most ousiders see & that's probably why we are so hated by the general population.
As for glam there was a lot of shockers, but i agree there were some good ones too. I'm sure Twisted Sister is one of those bands that seems quite laughable on the surface & would get dubbed as an awful 80s band on here, but i beg to differ & i thought they were a fun band with some smart lyrics in a few songs once you scratch under the surface of the cheesiness & they had some silly but fun rock n roll clitches aswell. Dee Snider was once quoted saying we're not really a glam band because that would imply we're glamourious & we're all really quite hideous, so that would really make as a hid band. LOL. They knew they were hideous & outragous & that was the idea, they wanted to stick out among all these other bands already doing the glam thing at a time when there was an overkill of glam. Also Dee Snider testified against the PMRC & stuck up for free speech along side Jello Biafra & the late John Denver, which is more than all of those 80s contempary & pop artists (eg Madona) that got more respect & hardly any flak ever did.

Metallica = annoying & over rated. Musically or not they have about as much intgrrity as a 10 dollar hooker. Besides who attacks their own fans with a law suit, what a slap in the face. Does that mean that even though i already bought & payed for their first four albums on vinyl back when they first came out that i should be prosecuted just because i might want to download a few of their songs for easy access on my PC or mp3 player?  People b*tch & moan about Dave Mustaine changing his "own personal" beliefs & becoming a christian While noone hardly says anything about what Metallica did to their own fans who continue to blindly follow. What short memories people have. In the scale of things what's worse & what matters more. It's unfortunate that there is a bit of a bovine mentallity in the metal scene & as much as i hate to admit it a mojority of metal heads are total idiots. That's probably all most ousiders see & that's probably why we are so hated by the general population.
As for glam there was a lot of shockers, but i agree there were some good ones too. I'm sure Twisted Sister is one of those bands that seems quite laughable on the surface & would get dubbed as an awful 80s band on here, but i beg to differ & i thought they were a fun band with some smart lyrics in a few songs once you scratch under the surface of the cheesiness & they had some silly but fun rock n roll clitches aswell. Dee Snider was once quoted saying we're not really a glam band because that would imply we're glamourious & we're all really quite hideous, so that would really make as a hid band. LOL. They knew they were hideous & outragous & that was the idea, they wanted to stick out among all these other bands already doing the glam thing at a time when there was an overkill of glam. Also Dee Snider testified against the PMRC & stuck up for free speech along side Jello Biafra & the late John Denver, which is more than all of those 80s contempary & pop artists (eg Madona) that got more respect & hardly any flak ever did.
Granted, these days Metallica are a bunch of tossers who have crawled way too far up their own backsides, but from a strictly 80's point of view I still think Ride the lightning is a great album.
As I say the Dave Mustaine thing is purely personal, there's just something about him that irritates me !

Granted, these days Metallica are a bunch of tossers who have crawled way too far up their own backsides, but from a strictly 80's point of view I still think Ride the lightning is a great album.
As I say the Dave Mustaine thing is purely personal, there's just something about him that irritates me !

Fair enough.
The only song i could get into off Ride The Lightning is Call Of Ktulu & that's a song Mustaine had a lot to do with but was never credited for. Without sounding pompas though, i truely think he's a better musician from a purely technical stand point & not from a taste/opinion point of view even though i may seem bias, but it seems a lot of people find him annoying so don't worry you're not alone there.

I think some of the most awful of the 80's were M.A.R.R.S. (Pump Up The Volume) and Salt & Pepa (Push It) :P

Not really an awful band, but that song "The Right Thing" by Simply Red gets on my nerves.  I never cared much for it.  Luckily, they released much better songs after it :)

I think some of the most awful of the 80's were M.A.R.R.S. (Pump Up The Volume) and Salt & Pepa (Push It) :P


Agreed!

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The only thing I will say about Metallica is Cliff Burton was a killer bass player and after he died so did the real Metallica. Orion (Puppets) is an awesome instrumental for what was considered a "thrash" band at the time and to my knowledge Cliff wrote most if not all of it.

The only thing I will say about Metallica is Cliff Burton was a killer bass player and after he died so did the real Metallica. Orion (Puppets) is an awesome instrumental for what was considered a "thrash" band at the time and to my knowledge Cliff wrote most if not all of it.

You know he was the only member of that band i liked & along with being a killer bass player he definitly looked the part & he was cool as f**k & metal as f**k, unlike the other d*cks in that band. I have a few old photos of Cliff & my 2 favourites are one with him on stage in a killer Dawn Of The Dead t-shirt & the second is of him with his fist out showing his rings & he's in a Misfits shirt & a denim jacket. I'd be totally ashamed & embarrassed to wear a Metallica shirt these days, but if there was a Cliff Burton tee with one of those classic photos of Cliff i'd wear that. I hated Newsted, but in a way though he kinda fit in well cause he kinda reminded me of the other 3 wankers, annoying & a total dork, basically they all deserved each other cause Cliff was way to good for that band. You're definitly right in saying that that band died when he did though.

Tiffany... sorta like the Ashlee Simpson of the '80's with her irritating voice...

I think that unreleased Tiffany demos are used for Ashlee's "voice"  ::)  :P

Tiffany... sorta like the Ashlee Simpson of the '80's with her irritating voice...

I think that unreleased Tiffany demos are used for Ashlee's "voice"  ::)  :P


I found Tiffany really annoying back in the day... although I must admit I now enjoy listening to "Could've Been" from time to time :-[

The only music I really don't like from the 80s is rap and thrash metal.

The only music I really don't like from the 80s is rap and thrash metal.

It's funny i should learn to understand rap since it is just as hated as metal. Those 2 genres are by far the 2 most hated & misundestood. I just can't help really hating rap though, i guess that kinda makes me a hypocrite in a way. There has been a rivalry between the 2 since the mid 80s though so i guess that doesn't help much along with the fact that rap requires very little musical knowedge & ability at all. I try not to write off an entire genre, but rap is one i i just knew i'd hate from day one.

It's funny i should learn to understand rap since it is just as hated as metal. Those 2 genres are by far the 2 most hated & misundestood.


I hate rap too, and I don't think it's misunderstood... unless there's some hidden message of teaching teens to do something productive with their lives underneath the lyrics of killing cops, doing drugs, running with gangs and all that other crap.

Metal, of course, has some stuff that's just as bad... Last Caress by Metallica comes to mind... but the genre as a whole isn't out on a mission to condone violence and self-destructive behavior.  I like some metal, but I can't stand it when they sound like they're singing through a vacuum cleaner... :P

Air Supply: Their music SUCKS! Anytime I hear that guy's voice, I flip the station!