I think they were the worst producers of the 80's. The worst Artist to get produced by them was the embarrasing Sonia. You'll Never Stop Me Loving You" was the worst single of the 80's.

I couldn't agree with you more. Sonia was sad sad SAAAAD! Just as well she was a 1 hit wonder! Apart from Dead Or Alive, Stockcube Ancient and Wateringcan were an embarraswement. Simon Cowell thinks they're genuses, proves how much he knows! Gotta love Morris Minor And The Majors for their little dig in the form of "This Is The Chorus"

All I can say is that Simon Cowell has a pathetic taste in music if he thinks they are geniuses.

Agreed wholeheartedly, Dave! Stock Aitken & Waterman were not just the worst songwriting team of the '80s but of all time too. They ruined Pop music forever. I can count on my one hand's fingers the songs they wrote I actually like. Kylie Minogue's "I Should Be So Lucky" (1987) made/makes me vomit. I bloody can't stand Pete Waterman at all.

Agreed wholeheartedly, Dave! Stock Aitken & Waterman were not just the worst songwriting team of the '80s but of all time too. They ruined Pop music forever. I can count on my one hand's fingers the songs they wrote I actually like. Kylie Minogue's "I Should Be So Lucky" (1987) made/makes me vomit. I bloody can't stand Pete Waterman at all.




Sorry to correct you like this, but "I Should Be So Lucky" from Kylie Minogue was actually released in January 1988 not 1987, but that wasn't her first single. "The Locomotion" was actually her first single.

I think they were the worst producers of the 80's. The worst Artist to get produced by them was the embarrasing Sonia. You'll Never Stop Me Loving You" was the worst single of the 80's.


So worse a singer, she has even disappeared from the music scene today.

Sorry to correct you like this, but "I Should Be So Lucky" from Kylie Minogue was actually released in January 1988 not 1987, but that wasn't her first single. "The Locomotion" was actually her first single.


"The Locomotion" was actually her third single.

"The Locomotion" was actually her third single.


I read on a Kylie fan site that it was actually her first single. It was released sometime in 1987.

I read on a Kylie fan site that it was actually her first single. It was released sometime in 1987.


First single yes, but in Australia not UK.

First single yes, but in Australia not UK.


Yes, it was re-recorded for the UK market...this version is also the one that charted in the US...

SAW were the scourge of most music critics at the time (probably because they were too successful...), but like most scourges in any form of entertainment, they filled a need...I think 50% of their stuff is palatable...

I loved their music and I think I'm gonna get killed for that statement.  ;D

Stock, Aitken & Waterman? Sounds like a law firm.  ;D

I did a quick check for songs they produced and found this list...

http://stockaitkenwaterman.itgo.com/singles.html

I did another quick check of that list and it looks like -- and I could be wrong-- but the only song on that list I like is 1991's

169 THAT'S WHAT LOVE CAN DO--Boy Krazy. It's a great '90s song.

Other than remembering most of those Dead Or Alive songs, the rest didn't look all that great. Most are remakes.

Did I miss any other good ones?

All I can say is that Simon Cowell has a pathetic taste in music if he thinks they are geniuses.
I think what Simon meant is that they were geniuses when it comes to making money rather than music. After all, Simon made a sh**load of money from producing The Wrestling Album as well as Zig & Zag the puppets. As I mentioned before, I think the real geniuses were Moris Minor And The Majors:

This is a disco hit
And writing four every week is our own kind of thing
Though they may
Be
Shhhhhure to get you dancing
You don't seem to mind if they all sound the same
Well we don't care what the words are about
If the beat is right then our success will grow
And on and on we keep churning them out
'cause we put the S in 'hits' you know

Stock, Aitken & Waterman? Sounds like a law firm.  ;D

I did a quick check for songs they produced and found this list...

http://stockaitkenwaterman.itgo.com/singles.html

I did another quick check of that list and it looks like -- and I could be wrong-- but the only song on that list I like is 1991's

169 THAT'S WHAT LOVE CAN DO--Boy Krazy. It's a great '90s song.

Other than remembering most of those Dead Or Alive songs, the rest didn't look all that great. Most are remakes.

Did I miss any other good ones?





Oh yeah. Boy Krazy's "That's What Love Can Do" was a great track and it still is.

Oh yeah. Boy Krazy's "That's What Love Can Do" was a great track and it still is.


May be a great track, but it not much played on the radio these days!

May be a great track, but it not much played on the radio these days!


Just heard it earlier on today on a US internet radio station.

Just heard it earlier on today on a US internet radio station.


You do not get much call for it in the UK on Radio2.

Just heard it earlier on today on a US internet radio station.


Hi Dave,

I'd like to get that station..how do u do it??

Just heard it earlier on today on a US internet radio station.


I want that one?

Hi Dave,

I'd like to get that station..how do u do it??


log on to:

http://www.retroradionetwork.com

log on to:

http://www.retroradionetwork.com


Thank you!

You do not get much call for it in the UK on Radio2.


You won't do. The song was released twice in the uk. First reached no 86 in the uk in 1992 and then it was re-released again a year later peaking at no 80. It reached no 18 in the Top 100 Billboard chart in 1992.

You won't do. The song was released twice in the uk. First reached no 86 in the uk in 1992 and then it was re-released again a year later peaking at no 80. It reached no 18 in the Top 100 Billboard chart in 1992.


But is still always the chance?

Just checked out the long list of singles produced by the "big 3". I never realised they were behind "You Think You're A Man" by Divine. I actually love that song. Gotta love devine, singing those words in "her" big, butch voice, taking it all the way to no.1 in 1984. Gay culture in those days had nowhere near the acceptance that it has now. Speaking of gay, S, A & W actually approached Boy George, just following his drug rehab, circa 1987. I think turning them down was one of the smarter things he did that year. Sure he might have scored another hit or two, but would have lost all credibilty in my site.  8)
Cheers,
Dee :-*

I know S/A/W also dealt with Edwin Starr (WAR! What is it good for?) and the three degrees at one time.

I know S/A/W also dealt with Edwin Starr (WAR! What is it good for?) and the three degrees at one time.


It was only one song from the Three Degrees. The song was the brilliant "The Heaven I Need", but it flopped in the UK.

I think they were the worst producers of the 80's. The worst Artist to get produced by them was the embarrasing Sonia. You'll Never Stop Me Loving You" was the worst single of the 80's.
Wow, the Internet is such a small place. I was looking up stuff on Google about that song because I'm currently obsessed with it, and I found the archived thread for this.  :D

Wow, the Internet is such a small place. I was looking up stuff on Google about that song because I'm currently obsessed with it, and I found the archived thread for this.  :D
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Admittedly, the masochistic and clingy lyrics really hit close to home. :D

As a teenager in the late 80s / early 90s, you couldn't escape SAW.

Rick Astley, Kylie Minogue, Sonia, Big Fun, Donna Summer, Mel & Kim, Sinitta, Banarama, Hazell Dean, Cliff Richard, LaToya Jackson, Jason Donovan, Lonnie Gordon. They produced for a lot of big weights in the industry.

Like any catchy pop - some was quality and some was throwaway.

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Admittedly, the masochistic and clingy lyrics really hit close to home. :D


At the time I hated Sonia, but age and nostalgia are a funny thing. I've now delved back into all these hits and I do like them a lot more now.

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Admittedly, the masochistic and clingy lyrics really hit close to home. :D
Same reason why I like I Should Be So Lucky.  ;D

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20181115215136AAm1wic

As y'all could see, when I posted my Kylie Minogue cover on Yahoo! Answers, I got told this: "Sounds like rick astley, i didn't look and just assumed it was a rickroll." LOL I don't even think the song I sang sounds that much like Never Gonna Give You Up.  :D ;D

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20181115215136AAm1wic

As y'all could see, when I posted my Kylie Minogue cover on Yahoo! Answers, I got told this: "Sounds like rick astley, i didn't look and just assumed it was a rickroll." LOL I don't even think the song I sang sounds that much like Never Gonna Give You Up.  :D ;D
qzi-mu3Vqlo This song reminds me of when someone from here told me, "Why do you like this guy again?" This song is kinda like an answer song to that, 30 years before that comment was actually said.  :o ;D