People can't appreciate keyboards when they have an 80s hairdo attached to them.

But synth pop is popular.  Mainstream rap = synths + bass + trendiness = synth-pop  ;D

Good post I agree with :)  I agree with the 13-year-old poster too. I was born in '90 but I know way more about the 80s than my brother, who was born in '88. 

The 90s are getting very close to becoming "retro" I think. I mean the 80s have been old since 1999 or so.  There really was never an "anti-90s" movement, although I do remember "get into the 21st century" or "it's the 21st century" were popular phrases.  But in the 90s people seemed to think of the 20th century as history mostly since the 90s were the last few years of the 1900s.  World War II, for instance, was history, as was Vietnam. 
The 90s was never, and is not now, considered "gay", although it's not exactly "cool" either.  For instance, some people like the Beastie Boys, Fresh Prince, and old school rap, but others find it campy, goofy stuff.  1997-1999 is last week and is dumb "now" because it's not hot sh*t from today or 2004.

It seems like the 80s were considered uncool almost directly after they ended.  In 1990 I doubt you'd get the crap beaten out of you for liking Hair Metal or New Wave, and there are 80s elements to the 90s up to 1996, but if you told someone from 1993 their clothes looked 80s they'd give you a weird look at the least. 

Marty, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Synth Pop's popularity go further into the 90s than Hair Metal's? I mean Hair Bands were around up to about 1992-93, but after Nelson nobody took them seriously, while Depeche Mode, the Cure, and Morrisey racked up hits up to 1993.


If you ask me, all this crap about a decade being 'cool' and 'uncool' is just so pointless. Each decade had their good and bad points. Unless, of course, you're talking about the 80s... ;)

80's rocked man...its probalby not , THE MEGA SUPER DUPER MANIAC BESTEST decade ever...but it i like better than todays 00's...today sucks @$$...back then before 1997 was awesome 1997 > forward is downfall of many bad stufff to happend...except The Matrix...that was the best movie ever made...oh yeah and The Lord of the Rings...along with my 80's music & video colelction!

my mom and dad listen to the 80's music and i love it and im only 15 yrs old and my brother listens to rap and things like that i quit listening to that music i love the 80's music ecspecially Motley crue and all them groups like that. ;D

my mom and dad listen to the 80's music and i love it and im only 15 yrs old and my brother listens to rap and things like that i quit listening to that music i love the 80's music ecspecially Motley crue and all them groups like that. ;D


awesome me to dudette...or pretty lady...but hey i want to know where do u live cuz i know im practilly the only dude in my city of Miami/Hialeah...who listen to this music 24/7

I've had people tell me that Good Charlotte is BETTER than Tears for Fears and all my other favorites! What a load of crap! Some kid told that Tears for Fears sucks, and he's never EVEN heard any of their songs! I also find that a load of crap as well! I can at least voice my comment that GC sucks because I have heard their music! That just angers the sheesh out of me! >:( >:(

I don't understand it, Personally I'm 17 and i love 80S music but whenever i talk to Friends or people of my age they wouldn't be caught listing to 80S music, It doesn't make any sense to me because back in the 80S they had SO much talent, And yes there are bands still going like "U2" but i think today's music sounds like a bunch of untainted people just trying to make a living they have no heart in the music business and they defiantly don't belong there, Personally my dad got me into this music and since then i haven't listin to anything today, I just love the 80S and i think it had the best year for music, I think kids today don't know talent when they hear it they just want to be "cool" and it really doesn't matter to me i don't care what people think of me i like what i like and that's all, But you guys tell me if i steered in the right direction. ;)


Well maybe it's their choice not to listen to 80's music and a good one of that. I think the kids of today have every right of listening to music from the likes of Britney Spears, Christina Aguleria etc because it's their choice. By all means go on and listen to 80's music, but you will be losing your friends if you do as they will be all be laughting at you.

By all means go on and listen to 80's music, but you will be losing your friends if you do as they will be all be laughting at you.


I'm sorry, but if I lose a friend based on simply prefering old music over modern, generally speaking, then that friend was pretty shallow indeed and not much of a friend.  If a friend is laughing at me based on something as simple as my taste in music, I'm going to laugh that much harder at them.  I guess I've never considered taste in music to be a criteria for friendship or romance. 

Or to put it another way, it's my ears, and it's my money buying my music.  If they can't handle that, THEY need to go somewhere else.  I'm not going to be so shallow as to demand they like or listen to what I like.

I'm sorry, but if I lose a friend based on simply prefering old music over modern, generally speaking, then that friend was pretty shallow indeed and not much of a friend.  If a friend is laughing at me based on something as simple as my taste in music, I'm going to laugh that much harder at them.  I guess I've never considered taste in music to be a criteria for friendship or romance. 

Or to put it another way, it's my ears, and it's my money buying my music.  If they can't handle that, THEY need to go somewhere else.  I'm not going to be so shallow as to demand they like or listen to what I like.




good point. a true friend accepts you regardless of what you do or listen too.

I'm sorry, but if I lose a friend based on simply prefering old music over modern, generally speaking, then that friend was pretty shallow indeed and not much of a friend.  If a friend is laughing at me based on something as simple as my taste in music, I'm going to laugh that much harder at them.  I guess I've never considered taste in music to be a criteria for friendship or romance. 

Or to put it another way, it's my ears, and it's my money buying my music.  If they can't handle that, THEY need to go somewhere else.  I'm not going to be so shallow as to demand they like or listen to what I like.




Totally man...i couldnt have said it better myself...

Speaking of retro, I had a friend over a couple of nights ago, and she mentioned that all of my CD's are old and that I should get new tracks. Hello, I come from another century so give me a break!

Speaking of retro, I had a friend over a couple of nights ago, and she mentioned that all of my CD's are old and that I should get new tracks. Hello, I come from another century so give me a break!


Your freinds right. You should get a decent CD collection. You can't go living in the passed. You've got t move on.

Your freinds right. You should get a decent CD collection. You can't go living in the passed. You've got t move on.


Why should we get headaches listening to music we don't like just to please others?

That's ridiculous.

Why should we get headaches listening to music we don't like just to please others?

That's ridiculous.


Todays music shouldn't give you headaches. Maybe if you turn your stereo down, then you wouldn't get any. I love todays music. It's a breath of fresh air compared to the stuff that was out years and years ago.

Well maybe it's their choice not to listen to 80's music and a good one of that. I think the kids of today have every right of listening to music from the likes of Britney Spears, Christina Aguleria etc because it's their choice. By all means go on and listen to 80's music, but you will be losing your friends if you do as they will be all be laughting at you.


Says someone who loves music from the 80's..dont'cha Dave!!

Todays music shouldn't give you headaches. Maybe if you turn your stereo down, then you wouldn't get any. I love todays music. It's a breath of fresh air compared to the stuff that was out years and years ago.


Like I said in the other thread, if I can find music of today that isn't all "ghetto", I would give it a chance.. but any 00s radio station I turn to is all ghetto garbage that gives me a headache.

Says someone who loves music from the 80's..dont'cha Dave!!


Only when i'm in the mood.

Your freinds right. You should get a decent CD collection. You can't go living in the passed. You've got t move on.


Who made you the judge of what is decent music?  What if someone doesn't like any popular music and only likes classical?  Or let's say doesn't like anything that hits a top 40 chart (any top 40 chart, not just pop) and only listens to garage bands and local talent?  Or are from a foreign nation, and only likes the traditional music from their country?  Are you going to DEMAND they buy what YOU consider to be decent?

Then again, someone calls you on that and indicates that you listen to 80's music, and you say "only when in the mood".  So, 80's music is okay when your in the mood for it, but not otherwise?  Gee, please let me know your scedule so I know when you're in the mood for something made 15 to 20 years ago, so I have permission to listen to it.  :P

Sorry, but your viewpoint IMO is absurd at best.  As an aside, I listen to some modern stuff, some early 90's, some 80's, some 70's, some 60's, one or two songs from the 50's.  Also like some Classical.  Don't like a lot of it, but I don't mind a couple country songs.  I even some bits and pieces of some opera arias.  Now...if you came to my home and laughed at my music collection, and then had the audacity to tell me to throw out most of the stuff that isn't modern, I'd ask if I get to throw you out, or if you have the wit to leave on your own.  :P

Or to put it another way, it's my musical taste.  If you don't like it, don't come to my house when I have music on, and don't get in my car when I'm playing a CD. 

Who made you the judge of what is decent music?  What if someone doesn't like any popular music and only likes classical?  Or let's say doesn't like anything that hits a top 40 chart (any top 40 chart, not just pop) and only listens to garage bands and local talent?  Or are from a foreign nation, and only likes the traditional music from their country?  Are you going to DEMAND they buy what YOU consider to be decent?

Then again, someone calls you on that and indicates that you listen to 80's music, and you say "only when in the mood".  So, 80's music is okay when your in the mood for it, but not otherwise?  Gee, please let me know your scedule so I know when you're in the mood for something made 15 to 20 years ago, so I have permission to listen to it.  :P

Sorry, but your viewpoint IMO is absurd at best.  As an aside, I listen to some modern stuff, some early 90's, some 80's, some 70's, some 60's, one or two songs from the 50's.  Also like some Classical.  Don't like a lot of it, but I don't mind a couple country songs.  I even some bits and pieces of some opera arias.  Now...if you came to my home and laughed at my music collection, and then had the audacity to tell me to throw out most of the stuff that isn't modern, I'd ask if I get to throw you out, or if you have the wit to leave on your own.  :P

Or to put it another way, it's my musical taste.  If you don't like it, don't come to my house when I have music on, and don't get in my car when I'm playing a CD. 




In the words of Bachman-Turner Overdrive - "You aint Seen Nothin' Yet"!!!

Todays music shouldn't give you headaches. Maybe if you turn your stereo down, then you wouldn't get any. I love todays music. It's a breath of fresh air compared to the stuff that was out years and years ago.


You love Aqua, Dave Brown? That's at least 8 years ago.  ;D

Music is a personal thing. Why can't people understand that?  ???

You love Aqua, Dave Brown? That's at least 8 years ago.  ;D

Music is a personal thing. Why can't people understand that?  ???


Maybe so, but their music will never outdate and it hasn't. I just find it sad how people can listen to stuff that outdated.

Wow, I'm away for one Easter and look what's grown without me, LOL!


Maybe so, but their music will never outdate and it hasn't. I just find it sad how people can listen to stuff that outdated.


Well dude, what about in 2013 or 2015 when someone looks through your CDs and goes, "Stuff from 2005!? Eww, that s*cks, it's old!" what are you gonna say then? ;D

That's the argument I've always used against liking old music/culture/movies/you name it. BTW, that's not a slam on modern stuff (as I like a bit of it myself), but the idea that you can't like something after X amount of time is just silly. Everything will be old someday and, on the inverse, everything was once new.

Besides, every band has influences - so there's a link to the past right there. ;)

Wow, I'm away for one Easter and look what's grown without me, LOL!

Well dude, what about in 2013 or 2015 when someone looks through your CDs and goes, "Stuff from 2005!? Eww, that s*cks, it's old!" what are you gonna say then? ;D

That's the argument I've always used against liking old music/culture/movies/you name it. BTW, that's not a slam on modern stuff (as I like a bit of it myself), but the idea that you can't like something after X amount of time is just silly. Everything will be old someday and, on the inverse, everything was once new.

Besides, every band has influences - so there's a link to the past right there. ;)


I'll just argue with them.

Maybe so, but their music will never outdate and it hasn't. I just find it sad how people can listen to stuff that outdated.


i was in agreement with right up to that comment. now i'm ticked off. are you saying that all of the music made in history should be neglected. are you saying i should toss out my beethoven, bach and a slew of other classical CDs because it is outdated, am i a sad loser now!!!!

i was in agreement with right up to that comment. now i'm ticked off. are you saying that all of the music made in history should be neglected. are you saying i should toss out my beethoven, bach and a slew of other classical CDs because it is outdated, am i a sad loser now!!!!


Classical music can rot in hell as far as i'm concerned. I can't stand it because it's the sort of music that reminds me of somebody that's died.

Classical music can rot in hell as far as i'm concerned. I can't stand it because it's the sort of music that reminds me of somebody that's died.


your ignorant. you just proved yourself so. no longer reply reply to my posts and i wont bother replying to yours.

Classical music can rot in hell as far as i'm concerned. I can't stand it because it's the sort of music that reminds me of somebody that's died.
One good example you are probably thinking of is the Bach-Gounod "Ave Maria", yes it is played at funerals, but it is played at marraiges too.

your ignorant. you just proved yourself so. no longer reply reply to my posts and i wont bother replying to yours.


I am not ignorant and I will continue to reply to your posts. If you have a problem with that then that's tough.

One good example you are probably thinking of is the Bach-Gounod "Ave Maria", yes it is played at funerals, but it is played at marraiges too.


I love a bit o'classical music !!!

I love a bit o'classical music !!!
In fact, I am listening to Classicfm's hall of fame 2005.

Classical music can rot in hell as far as i'm concerned. I can't stand it because it's the sort of music that reminds me of somebody that's died.


Okay. So, say the lead singer of Aqua died prematurely (hope to God she doesn't before you start), would you stop listening to songs by Aqua as it reminds you of the dead singer?

In fact, I am listening to Classicfm's hall of fame 2005.


Yeah I heard a little of Classic fm yesterday switching stns.  Is it Dance of the Flowers from Swan Lake that is the well known one?

I just can't understand it...I love stuff from the 60' 70's 80's 90's and NOW..why does everyone always have to be so narrow minded with regard to the decades..there has been excellent music from every one up to the present day!!

Hell I even like stuff from the 40' and 50's that my mother listened too.

BROADEN YOUR HORIZONS PEOPLE. 

Yeah I heard a little of Classic fm yesterday switching stns.  Is it Dance of the Flowers from Swan Lake that is the well known one?
There are plenty of famous tunes in Swan Lake, yes Dance of the Flowers is one of them.

I'm personally not a fan of classical music (I hated it as a kid, although I can stand it to a degree now. In fact, I used to say it was "funeral music." Not that I don't like ballads or slower songs, but listening to a Lionel Richie ballad is different than classical to me -- the former might be softer, but still sounds happy. I call songs like that "prom ballads".

However, that said, my comment still stands. It's still out of line IMHO.

I won't stop listening to 1985 music to please someone stuck in 2005, nor will I stop listening 2005 music to please someone in 1985. I like what I want to.

Dave - seriously, bro - a simple question: What will you, in 2015 say, when a teenager says all your 2005 CD's suck? How will you respond?

Dave - seriously, bro - a simple question: What will you, in 2015 say, when a teenager says all your 2005 CD's suck? How will you respond?


Somewhat off topic, but note how he's changed he has changed his posting avatar, how it used to be Susanna Hoffs if memory serves me right?  ;)  Then again I also wonder if he's right now throwing out a couple Bangles CD's because ignoring a comeback, they just aren't a modern band?  :D

I wonder to be honest if he just got bored and decided to troll a thread for a bit, and really doesn't feel this.  Or maybe not, I guess we'll see how this thread goes.

As an aside, I wonder what he thinks about a band that's more then a couple years old, but yet is still performing?  That would be quandry...some of their music would be "old", so thus using his rigid standards he can't like them...yet WAIT, some of the music would be recent, so now he can...oh my, what would he do?  ;)

Maybe so, but their music will never outdate and it hasn't. I just find it sad how people can listen to stuff that outdated.


Define "outdated".

Can you do so?

Simply put, each person's concept of outdated will be different.

But then again, I find it sad how someone can be a hypocrite, and then try to justify it.  Someone calls you on listening to 80's music, you reply "Only when I'm in the mood".  Someone calls you on listening to Aqua, which was mostly popular 8 or more years ago, and you say "Oh, they aren't outdated". 

Otherwise, your saying your own rules don't apply to yourself.

Tell you what, if you're willing to throw out your OWN music collection based on what you're saying, then great.  Then I'll say your point has some merit.  Until then, you're just a hypocrite.

BTW, WHY did you change your posting avatar from Susanna Hoffs?  *insert sarcasm* I'm sure it has NOTHING to do with you liking her music, which for the most part was from the 80's.... *end sarcasm*

3 to 1 you deny it ever was Susanna Hoffs, and that it's always been the current image.  :p

Susanna Hoffs could never be considered outdated.  ;)

Somewhat off topic, but note how he's changed he has changed his posting avatar, how it used to be Susanna Hoffs if memory serves me right?  ;)  Then again I also wonder if he's right now throwing out a couple Bangles CD's because ignoring a comeback, they just aren't a modern band?  :D

I wonder to be honest if he just got bored and decided to troll a thread for a bit, and really doesn't feel this.  Or maybe not, I guess we'll see how this thread goes.

As an aside, I wonder what he thinks about a band that's more then a couple years old, but yet is still performing?  That would be quandry...some of their music would be "old", so thus using his rigid standards he can't like them...yet WAIT, some of the music would be recent, so now he can...oh my, what would he do?  ;)




What's it got to do with you if I've changed my avator or not? Why don't you mind your own bloody business >:(

What's it got to do with you if I've changed my avator or not? Why don't you mind your own bloody business >:(


...but don't you also love love love Sonia, Christina Aguilera and Kylie Minogue Dave..I remember you saying you did!

PS. That avatar doesn't suit you :(

^ Yes. And Christina came out in *gasp* 1999? That's 6 long years ago. :D

Okay, forget 2015, what about in 2007, when Aqua and the beginning of the teen pop/boy band music becomes 10 years old? Will that be too old for ya then?

BTW: Arvic - good post. I agree with you.

Green Day is a good example. American Idiot is one of the biggest selling albums of late 2004/early '05, but technically they could be called a 90's band (Dookie came out in '94 - 11 years ago. And they had some independent releases in the early 90's), even if AI is "current" music.

BTW: Arvic - good post. I agree with you.




Don't talk crap. To me, Aqua's music will never go  out of date. So mind your own bloody business.

I really cant understand people who won't appreciate music because it is from a particular time period. Good music will never grow old. I can imagine kids, 20 years from now listening to many great 70s and 80s bands/artists as much as today.

I am a listener of all music - whether it be from 1950, 1980, 1977 or 2005... If its good, the date don't matter.

dave brown, these are public forums, what you say becomes the providence of those who contribute. you said something that will mark for the rest of your stay here. i, for one, will never forget and will laugh wholeheartedly at every contribition that you make in any other forum outside of the 90s and 00s threads.

owned

all of my school hates cRAP and Loves the 80s, that I think is an accomplishment

What's it got to do with you if I've changed my avator or not? Why don't you mind your own bloody business >:(


1)  As someone else pointed out, this is a public forum.  If you don't want people commenting on your avatar, don't have one. 

Or to put it another way, the only way to avoid comments about your posts is to not post at all.  Same thing with an avatar, only way to avoid comments about it is to not have one. 

2)  I was pointing out that you switched from an avatar of a singer who's hits are all from the 80's to one that has nothing to do with 80's music since you've taken this anti-80's music stance.  My point was that I find it amusing how you suddenly change this avatar when it no longer suits you.

Don't talk crap. To me, Aqua's music will never go  out of date. So mind your own bloody business.


ROFL.  You just proved my point.  TO YOU Aqua will never go out of date.  Otherwise, your OWN rules of listening to what you have defined as outdated music don't apply to yourself.  Thus, you are a hypocrite.

Sorry, you can't have it both ways.  Either you admit that you yourself are "sad" for listening to Aqua and at least at one time liking Susanna Hoffs if no-one else, since their music for the most part isn't recent, or throw out your own record collection if you feel it's "sad" to like anything that isn't modern.

EDIT:  Or, he can realize that since he himself listens to both modern and what he has defined as "sad/outdated" music, then he can drop his initial comment and realize that yes, it's okay to listen to music regardless of when it was first written/published.  END EDIT


I doubt you'll do either (or the suggestion in my edit, either).  Problem with most hypocrites is that they won't admit it, and in many cases don't even understand that they are one.  ;)





BTW, let me know when you finish with that shovel you're using to dig your own hole, it's warming up here and I may do some gardening in a few weeks.  :D

Don't talk crap. To me, Aqua's music will never go  out of date. So mind your own bloody business.


Dave that Avatar freaks me out..It's almost as scary as seeing  The Cybemen from Dr Who when I was a kid.

i like his avatar, a mix of the terminator, a necron warrior from WH40k and the demented imaginings of HR Giger. but yeah, the jump from ms. hoffs avatar to his current one is far from coincidence.

i like his avatar, a mix of the terminator, a necron warrior from WH40k and the demented imaginings of HR Giger. but yeah, the jump from ms. hoffs avatar to his current one is far from coincidence.


Hey, at least he didn't rip off your Kittithulu (sp, I know) one.  ;)  Although I wouldn't blame him if he was tempted, it is a good one.

thanks  :)

I was a teen in the 80's and the music was boss!  My daughter is 12 and she says it's old people's music.  I guess if you're 12, 34 seems old.  She has a friend that listens to 80's music and is getting my daughter into it more.  What's funny is I'm catching her singing to some of the music like "Crazy Train" or "Burnning Down the House".  I am thankful for the movie that just came out "13 going on 30" because it kinda made it cool to love the 80's.  I down loaded "Thriller" the video so my daughter could see it.  Her comment was "Micheal Jackson's actualy black?  I thought he was white."  I died laughing.  I also think it rad that these new bands all sound alike and then they might come out with a new song that is clearly a knock off from the original of the 80's version. :D

My daughter is 12 and she says it's old people's music.  I guess if you're 12, 34 seems old.  She has a friend that listens to 80's music and is getting my daughter into it more...

That's pretty cool - I've (sometimes more successfully than others) gotten some of my friends into 80's songs too. :)

Like I always say though, I think it just depends on the person (I'm learning that more and more all the time, LOL). I do think the reason some people have a disliking for the 80's -- or any time period for that matter -- is just 'cause they're not exposed to it outside of a "retro" or "old" POV, so by nature of that, it seems uncool to them.

PS: When I was 12, I didn't think 34 was old!

That's pretty cool - I've (sometimes more successfully than others) gotten some of my friends into 80's songs too. :)

Like I always say though, I think it just depends on the person (I'm learning that more and more all the time, LOL). I do think the reason some people have a disliking for the 80's -- or any time period for that matter -- is just 'cause they're not exposed to it outside of a "retro" or "old" POV, so by nature of that, it seems uncool to them.

PS: When I was 12, I didn't think 34 was old!




Some of it IMO even depends on the person despite their age.  Some people appricate nostalga, some don't, period.  When I was a teenager, a lot of my friends had no problem with music that was 10 or 20 years before our time, or with music outside of a popular genre like pop or rock music.  Many of the teenagers I talk to today seem the same way, they may listen to more current artists, but many of their favorites are songs from right when or even before they were born.  Neice of a friend of mine is always digging through my old CD's for "new discoveries", she still likes all of the modern stuff, but two of her favorite bands right now are U2 (specfically early 80's era...she's right now borrowing my copies of "Boy", "October' and "War") and The Eagles.  She's just now getting into The Doors also.  For that matter, she also likes some Broadway show tunes, albeit from more modern plays, she doesn't like the Rodgers & Hammerstein stuff for instance.  For the record, she's going to be 17 in a few weeks.  (And no Dave, best of my knowledge none of her friends her age think she is "sad" for having an open enough mind to have eclectic tastes...  :p  ).  Anyway, my point is despite Dave's silly posts, plenty of people, young, middle aged or old have no problem with music from "before their time", nor see it as "sad" for daring to not label anything more then a year or two old as outdated.

Or to put it another way...I wonder if Dave ever considered that if he'd see music a bit older then produced a year or two ago (other then Aqua or "when he's in the mood"...  *insert eyeroll*) as having merit, that he'd have so much more choice in what he can listen to?  :D

I wish I was in your school Spacehog, some of these kids in and out of my many classes listen to crappy music like Simple Plan and Good Charlotte and they know I cannot stand those bands, but they tell me that those bands are better than mine! I know maybe 2 kids in the school WHO do not listen to either of those bands! I listen to bands like The Cure, Tears for Fears, Eurythmics and singers Peter Schilling (both english and german), Thomas Dolby, Billy Idol and others. I recently bought a late 70's record by a 70's band from New York called Television (Tom Verlaine anyone?). I also like The Cars! ;D ;D

I wish I was in your school Spacehog, some of these kids in and out of my many classes listen to crappy music like Simple Plan and Good Charlotte and they know I cannot stand those bands, but they tell me that those bands are better than mine! I know maybe 2 kids in the school WHO do not listen to either of those bands! I listen to bands like The Cure, Tears for Fears, Eurythmics and singers Peter Schilling (both english and german), Thomas Dolby, Billy Idol and others. I recently bought a late 70's record by a 70's band from New York called Television (Tom Verlaine anyone?). I also like The Cars! ;D ;D

I'm so glad high school is over for me. University kids/adults are a lot more open minded (most of them) :)

My kids (15 & 11) thought this was the funniest thread, "Dad, we refuse to listen to 80s music..." Lol, we had a laugh. I decided to not complain about their manipulation of the car radio and see what happened.  They said they were refusing, lol, as they changed stations.  We settled on I'm Mr. Lonely by Akon, it ended with commercials and the radio changing again, I noticed Joe Walsh went wooshing by, one note of Rocky Mtn. High, then they settled on What I am by Edie Brikell which is 80s!!! They listenbed to the whole thing! Then it was, hey Dad, we're refusing....lol, and they settled on an Aleesha Keys song.  We touched upon Listen to the Music by the Doobies, which they also liked and asked me about.  "Hey Dad isn't a doobie, marijuana?" Uh, yeh I guess, "lol, kids refuse..." we all lol'd - It was fun :)