They used to play a ballad by Tommy Conwell & The Young Rumblers on the radio stations in Philadelphia that I believe was called 'Do You Still Believe In Me', but I'm not sure that is the title (that was part of the chorus).

I'm pretty sure this song is not on 'Rumble' but I am not sure about 'Guitar Trouble'. Anyone know what song I'm talking about?

The only lyrics I can remember are:

Do you still believe in me Can we still be what we want to be We ain't in love no more but I have to know Do you still believe in me

I have never heard of them but...... 'Rumble' and 'Guitar Trouble' info can be found at the following links. http://search.shopping.yahoo.com/search/music?p=Tommy+Conwell&f=k

Hope this helps you find what your looking for.

With some of the obscure song identifications I've seen on this board made with so little information, I'm surprised no one has heard of this song. Anyone?

> They used to play a ballad by Tommy Conwell & The Young Rumblers on
> the radio stations in Philadelphia that I believe was called 'Do You Still
> Believe In Me', but I'm not sure that is the title (that was part of the
> chorus).

> I'm pretty sure this song is not on 'Rumble' but I am not sure about
> 'Guitar Trouble'. Anyone know what song I'm talking about?

> The only lyrics I can remember are:

> Do you still believe in me
>Can we still be what we want to be
>We ain't in love no more but I have to know
>Do you still believe in me

> With some of the obscure song identifications I've seen on this board made
> with so little information, I'm surprised no one has heard of this song.
> Anyone?

Tommy Conwell and the Young Rumblers first scored a minor pop (and #1 AOR) hit here in the U.S. in the Fall of '88, w/ "I'm Not Your Man". The follow-up single, "If We Never Meet Again", became an even bigger pop hit (and again going top 10 AOR) in the Winter of '89. Both of these were off the band's 1988 debut album, "Rumble". The lead single off their second album, 1990's "Guitar Trouble", was "I'm Seventeen", which again became a moderate AOR hit in the Fall of '90, but failed to cross over to the pop charts. This was then followed in the Winter of '91 by "Let Me Love You Too", which yielded the same results: a moderate AOR hit, w/ no pop crossover. If none of those four tunes is your "mystery song", then you must've heard a more obscure album cut on those Philadelphia radio stations back in the day, as the band was indeed from the Philly area. (Sorry, but I don't own either of the group's albums at this time - there was no song on "Rumble" w/ a title that even closely resembles "Do You Still Believe in Me", that much I can swear by. So you may be right that it's instead from "Guitar Trouble".) Unfortunately, both "Rumble" and "Guitar Trouble" are long out-of-print, although both titles were issued on CD here in the U.S...

I am nearly certain it was not on 'Guitar Trouble' because I am nearly certain the title was 'Do You Still Believe In Me'. I posted on an 80s newsgroup and one other person heard of the song (and even had a tape of it back then) but didn't know what release the tape actually was. Maybe he just had a homemade compilation tape of it, I don't know. My thought is that maybe it's on some obscure movie soundtrack, but that is just a guess. The one thing that other person confirmed was the title of the song -- I think he only knew of it because he said he went to school with Tommy Conwell!

I might try searching the website for the Philadelphia radio station that I'm sure was the one that played it: WYSP. WMMR wouldn't have played such a song since they are an old-school classic rock station..always have been, always will.

> Tommy Conwell and the Young Rumblers first scored a minor pop (and #1 AOR)
> hit here in the U.S. in the Fall of '88, w/ "I'm Not Your Man".
> The follow-up single, "If We Never Meet Again", became an even
> bigger pop hit (and again going top 10 AOR) in the Winter of '89. Both of
> these were off the band's 1988 debut album, "Rumble". The lead
> single off their second album, 1990's "Guitar Trouble", was
> "I'm Seventeen", which again became a moderate AOR hit in the
> Fall of '90, but failed to cross over to the pop charts. This was then
> followed in the Winter of '91 by "Let Me Love You Too", which
> yielded the same results: a moderate AOR hit, w/ no pop crossover. If none
> of those four tunes is your "mystery song", then you must've
> heard a more obscure album cut on those Philadelphia radio stations back
> in the day, as the band was indeed from the Philly area. (Sorry, but I
> don't own either of the group's albums at this time - there was no song on
> "Rumble" w/ a title that even closely resembles "Do You
> Still Believe in Me", that much I can swear by. So you may be right
> that it's instead from "Guitar Trouble".) Unfortunately, both
> "Rumble" and "Guitar Trouble" are long out-of-print,
> although both titles were issued on CD here in the U.S...

> I am nearly certain it was not on 'Guitar Trouble' because I am nearly
> certain the title was 'Do You Still Believe In Me'. I posted on an 80s
> newsgroup and one other person heard of the song (and even had a tape of
> it back then) but didn't know what release the tape actually was. Maybe he
> just had a homemade compilation tape of it, I don't know. My thought is
> that maybe it's on some obscure movie soundtrack, but that is just a
> guess. The one thing that other person confirmed was the title of the song
> -- I think he only knew of it because he said he went to school with Tommy
> Conwell!

> I might try searching the website for the Philadelphia radio station that
> I'm sure was the one that played it: WYSP. WMMR wouldn't have played such
> a song since they are an old-school classic rock station..always have
> been, always will.

You are correct - the title of the song you seek is indeed "Do You Still Believe in Me". Seems that back in the mid '80s, Mr. Conwell & Co. put out an album or two independently, before signing into the big leagues w/ CBS/Sony, and releasing their major-label debut, "Rumble", in 1988. "Do You Still Believe in Me" is off their mid '80s album, "Walkin' on the Water", released on the indie Antenna label, which was based in Philly. (I was able to locate a complete track listing for that album, and trust me, your song is on there!) And for the record, that was the SAME label on which another Philly group, The Hooters, released their debut album, 1984's "Amore", before also signing w/ CBS/Sony! The "Walkin' on the Water" album is long out-of-print, and was released on vinyl LP and cassette only; unfortunately, it's never been re-issued on CD here in the U.S. However, if you follow the "Yahoo!" link that TX provided in his response to you above, and type "Tommy Conwell" into their search engine, you will get a dealer who currently has a sealed copy of the album on vinyl for a mere $6! Good luck!

Funny, the last time I posted a 'Who is this by?' message on this board, it was answered by you and it was, you guessed it, some old songs by the Hooters! In fact, the answer to the Hooters songs I was looking for was on that 'Amore' album. I grew up ~100 miles from Philadelphia but listened to their stations, so I remember these songs from the Hooters, Tommy Conwell, Robert Hazard, etc.

I'll have to check out that vinyl release you pointed me to. Thanks!!

> You are correct - the title of the song you seek is indeed "Do You
> Still Believe in Me". Seems that back in the mid '80s, Mr. Conwell
> & Co. put out an album or two independently, before signing into the
> big leagues w/ CBS/Sony, and releasing their major-label debut,
> "Rumble", in 1988. "Do You Still Believe in Me" is off
> their mid '80s album, "Walkin' on the Water", released on the
> indie Antenna label, which was based in Philly. (I was able to locate a
> complete track listing for that album, and trust me, your song is on
> there!) And for the record, that was the SAME label on which another
> Philly group, The Hooters, released their debut album, 1984's
> "Amore", before also signing w/ CBS/Sony! The "Walkin' on
> the Water" album is long out-of-print, and was released on vinyl LP
> and cassette only; unfortunately, it's never been re-issued on CD here in
> the U.S. However, if you follow the "Yahoo!" link that TX
> provided in his response to you above, and type "Tommy Conwell"
> into their search engine, you will get a dealer who currently has a sealed
> copy of the album on vinyl for a mere $6! Good luck!

> Funny, the last time I posted a 'Who is this by?' message on this board,
> it was answered by you and it was, you guessed it, some old songs by the
> Hooters! In fact, the answer to the Hooters songs I was looking for was on
> that 'Amore' album. I grew up ~100 miles from Philadelphia but listened to
> their stations, so I remember these songs from the Hooters, Tommy Conwell,
> Robert Hazard, etc.

> I'll have to check out that vinyl release you pointed me to. Thanks!!

Robert Hazard's "Escalator of Life" was a killer '80s tune! Have all three of his albums, including both versions of his 1982 debut EP...