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Subject: Just a thought...

Written By: aaron on 1/13/2001 at 3:00 p.m.

My dad and grandmother once told me that several of the fads we have now are just adaptations from previous decades. When I looked at what was popular in the early 90's, I came to find that some of it originated in the 60's and 70's.

More recently, my grandmother told me that about every 20 years a previous decade repeats.

I know some of the clothing fads and car colors from the 70's came back in the 90's.

Obviously not everything comes back, but a lot of things do.

So this tells me that the 60's repeated in the 80's, the 70's repeated in the 90's, so that means the 80's are going to return soon.


Subject: Re: Just a thought...

Written By: james martin on 1/13/2001 at 9:51 p.m.

: My dad and grandmother once told me that
: several of the fads we have now are just
: adaptations from previous decades. When I
: looked at what was popular in the early
: 90's, I came to find that some of it
: originated in the 60's and 70's.

: More recently, my grandmother told me that
: about every 20 years a previous decade
: repeats.

: I know some of the clothing fads and car colors
: from the 70's came back in the 90's.

: Obviously not everything comes back, but a lot
: of things do.

: So this tells me that the 60's repeated in the
: 80's, the 70's repeated in the 90's, so that
: means the 80's are going to return soon.
There both right & to prove it there are a lot all 80's radio stations going on now, some fashions of the 80's are come coming back & Casey Kasem is bringing back American Top 40 in a different way. He's going to countdown the Top 40 songs of a certain week( 1st week in Jan. 1981) in Billboard just like the old days. Of course no countdown is complete without his long distance dedications. I feel 20yrs.younger now lol

Subject: Re: Just a thought...

Written By: aaron on 1/14/2001 at 3:07 p.m.

: There both right & to prove it there are a
: lot all 80's radio stations going on now,
: some fashions of the 80's are come coming
: back & Casey Kasem is bringing back
: American Top 40 in a different way. He's
: going to countdown the Top 40 songs of a
: certain week( 1st week in Jan. 1981) in
: Billboard just like the old days. Of course
: no countdown is complete without his long
: distance dedications. I feel 20yrs.younger
: now lol

I remember the top 40 very well too. I used to listen to it every sunday morning that I could during most of 1991. I REALLY liked the long distance dedications too. I actually did one.

I was pretty pissed with Rick Dees took it over a few years later. TOTALLY ruined it. I didn't find his humor very funny. Casey was much better.

Looking forward to the return of Casey!

And to the repeat of our decade!

Subject: Re: Just a thought...

Written By: 80smusicfreak on 1/14/2001 at 9:50 p.m.

: I remember the top 40 very well too. I used to
: listen to it every sunday morning that I
: could during most of 1991. I REALLY liked
: the long distance dedications too. I
: actually did one.

: I was pretty pissed with Rick Dees took it over
: a few years later. TOTALLY ruined it. I
: didn't find his humor very funny. Casey was
: much better.

: Looking forward to the return of Casey!

: And to the repeat of our decade!

Your anger is misdirected. It was Shadoe Stevens - not Rick Dees - who replaced Casey Kasem as host of "AT40". (Starting August 13, 1988, to be exact - and he remained its host until the final show, which aired January 28, 1995.) So if you truly were listening to "AT40" on Sundays in 1991, it was, in fact, Shadoe Stevens you were hearing...

In Rick Dees' defense, his show, "The Rick Dees Weekly Top 40", was a completely different syndicated countdown show. It had nothing to do w/ "AT40", other than the fact that it was born out of L.A. radio station KIIS-FM's loss of "AT40" to a crosstown rival (KIQQ) in the Summer of '83. As a result, they created and launched his show that September, and by the late '80s, it had passed "AT40" nationally in popularity...

Unless you grew up in SoCal during the '80s (as I did), you're not likely to understand Dees' brand of humor. (He hasn't ranked as one of the top five most popular DJs of the last 20+ years for nothing!) KIIS-FM was my station in the early to mid '80s, and I have all of Dees' comedy albums - his '80s "Candid Phone" skits were truly hilarious!

If you truly enjoyed "AT40", though, then I highly recommend the book "American Top 40: The Countdown of the Century" by Rob Durkee (1999), a thorough look at the history of the much-loved syndicated countdown show. It's still in print, and available through "amazon.com". I've provided a link below...

Subject: Re: Just a thought...

Written By: aaron on 1/15/2001 at 12:25 a.m.

: Your anger is misdirected. It was Shadoe
: Stevens - not Rick Dees - who replaced Casey
: Kasem as host of "AT40". (Starting
: August 13, 1988, to be exact - and he
: remained its host until the final show,
: which aired January 28, 1995.) So if you
: truly were listening to "AT40" on
: Sundays in 1991, it was, in fact, Shadoe
: Stevens you were hearing...

: In Rick Dees' defense, his show, "The Rick
: Dees Weekly Top 40", was a completely
: different syndicated countdown show. It had
: nothing to do w/ "AT40", other
: than the fact that it was born out of L.A.
: radio station KIIS-FM's loss of
: "AT40" to a crosstown rival (KIQQ)
: in the Summer of '83. As a result, they
: created and launched his show that
: September, and by the late '80s, it had
: passed "AT40" nationally in
: popularity...

: Unless you grew up in SoCal during the '80s (as
: I did), you're not likely to understand
: Dees' brand of humor. (He hasn't ranked as
: one of the top five most popular DJs of the
: last 20+ years for nothing!) KIIS-FM was my
: station in the early to mid '80s, and I have
: all of Dees' comedy albums - his '80s
: "Candid Phone" skits were truly
: hilarious!

: If you truly enjoyed "AT40", though,
: then I highly recommend the book
: "American Top 40: The Countdown of the
: Century" by Rob Durkee (1999), a
: thorough look at the history of the
: much-loved syndicated countdown show. It's
: still in print, and available through
: "amazon.com". I've provided a link
: below...

Ummm no, I think I know who I was listening to. EVERY show that started that sunday morning said "you are listening to the top 40 with Casey Kasem"... well, that's not Rick Dees.

And I know Casey's voice. It was him. I listened to the top 40 again a few years later, on the SAME station that did it with Casey, and now the guy CLEARLY said "Rick Dees top 40". Maybe his was unrelated, but he said top 40 countdown and it played on the exact same station.

So yes, I was listening to the top 40 countdown during 1991 with Casey Kasem. I know who I was listening to, and he always said his name and read letters addressed to "Casey Kasem", not Shadoe Stevens.

Finally, I know it was 1991 because he played several songs that were hits in 1991, not 1988.

So no, my anger is not misdirected. Maybe Rick's was different, but it played on the same station using the same name.

I saw Rick's talk show in the early 90's as well. I like him, but I did not like his top 40 countdown.

Subject: Re: Just a thought...

Written By: 80smusicfreak on 1/15/2001 at 2:26 a.m.

: Ummm no, I think I know who I was listening to.
: EVERY show that started that sunday morning
: said "you are listening to the top 40
: with Casey Kasem"... well, that's not
: Rick Dees.

Ah, well then the problem seems to be that you didn't know WHAT you were listening to. jm was talking about "AT40" when you made your original response. I now realize that the show you were actually listening to in '91 was NOT "AT40", but the new show that CK started AFTER he left "AT40" in 1988. And YOU were the one who said it was Rick Dees who came along and "TOTALLY ruined" CK's show - not me! Again, Dees never had anything to do w/ either countdown show that Kasem hosted...

: And I know Casey's voice. It was him. I
: listened to the top 40 again a few years
: later, on the SAME station that did it with
: Casey, and now the guy CLEARLY said
: "Rick Dees top 40". Maybe his was
: unrelated, but he said top 40 countdown and
: it played on the exact same station.

That's right. That's because both shows (Kasem's and Dees') are/were SYNDICATED. That means they're added/deleted by radio stations in various markets across the country all the time. (This is based in part on the target audience the station is aiming for.) Obviously, the radio station you listened to in your market dropped Casey's show, and replaced it w/ Rick's - but that doesn't mean they were the SAME show, as you apparently believed! In fact, their countdowns are based on completely different sources. And if you happen to live in a large market, there's a good possibility that CK's show was picked up by a rival station at the time - meaning you still could've heard his show each weekend, but you would've had to adjust your dial...

: So yes, I was listening to the top 40 countdown
: during 1991 with Casey Kasem. I know who I
: was listening to, and he always said his
: name and read letters addressed to
: "Casey Kasem", not Shadoe Stevens.

: Finally, I know it was 1991 because he played
: several songs that were hits in 1991, not
: 1988.

Again, we are clearly talking about two different countdown shows here. And while I now believe you when you say it was CK, it was NOT "AT40", as you apparently thought! Both Shadoe Stevens and Rick Dees were off hosting their own separate and aforementioned shows at that time (1991). And since I had pretty much lost interest in "current" music by '91, I'll admit I rarely listened to any of them...

: So no, my anger is not misdirected. Maybe
: Rick's was different, but it played on the
: same station using the same name.

You clearly stated that you were mad at Dees for "ruining" CK's show, when, in fact, you should have been upset w/ your local radio station for dumping Casey's show, and replacing it w/ Rick's. That's why I called your anger "misdirected". And since I have enjoyed Dees for nearly 20 years now, I felt it was worth coming to his defense, and setting the record straight w/ the different countdown shows...

: I saw Rick's talk show in the early 90's as
: well. I like him, but I did not like his top
: 40 countdown.

Hey, I fell in love w/ "AT40" all the way back in 1981! Listened to it religiously till about '85, and maybe about half the time for the next 2-3 years after that. And I've always enjoyed CK very much. Was I disappointed to see him replaced by Shadoe Stevens in 1988??? You bet! In fact, it was CK's departure and my waning interest in "current" music by '88 that led me to pretty much abandon "AT40" after that! I remember listening to the show hosted by SS a total of maybe 5-6 times. It just wasn't the same (not necessarily all SS's fault). Do I think the original "AT40" w/ CK was better than Rick's '80s/'90s countdown show??? Yes! And yeah, I listened to CK's new show a few times in the early '90s as well - but again, I didn't think it was quite the same. I have yet to hear any of these '80s re-broadcasts of "AT40" w/ CK that jm was referring to, but I'll be keeping my ears open...

Subject: Re: Just a thought...

Written By: aaron on 1/15/2001 at 11:39 a.m.

: Ah, well then the problem seems to be that you
: didn't know WHAT you were listening to. jm

Yes you must be right. I have no idea what I'm listening to anymore. I didn't understand Casey Kasey *clearly* saying "you are listening to the top 40 countdown".

Rather than insulting my intelligence, why not just accept what I heard? I think I know better than anybody else what I heard. It WAS Casey Kasem, it WAS the Top 40 countdown (he said it over and over and over during the 4 hour show), it WAS during 1991, and it WAS live because he playing the hit songs of 1991, not 1988.

Geez...

: was talking about "AT40" when you
: made your original response. I now realize
: that the show you were actually listening to
: in '91 was NOT "AT40", but the new
: show that CK started AFTER he left

Perhaps you are right. But for the hundredth time, it was the top 40. Maybe it was Casey's alterative version of it, but he repeatedly said the top 40 countdown and had the long distance dedications as well.

I am very tired of discussing this. I know what I heard. Perhaps every DJ on the planet had their own version, and maybe it was not the original version, but it was the top 40 as Casey said that all the time during the broadcast, so perhaps it was his spin off.

: "AT40" in 1988. And YOU were the
: one who said it was Rick Dees who came along
: and "TOTALLY ruined" CK's show -

Yes, I know what I said. And from where I live, in the Portland region, that is exactly what they did at some point. I quit listening in 1992, and when I picked it up again (sometime in 1995 I think), Rick Dees was hosting it on the SAME radio station calling it Top 40 countdown. The show was still playing the same songs in the same style, but no dedications.

: not me! Again, Dees never had anything to do
: w/ either countdown show that Kasem
: hosted...

Fine, then he didn't. Ok... but he still called it the same name Casey did and played the top 40 hits... now that tells me a thing or two.

: That's right. That's because both shows
: (Kasem's and Dees') are/were SYNDICATED.
: That means they're added/deleted by radio
: stations in various markets across the
: country all the time. (This is based in part
: on the target audience the station is aiming
: for.) Obviously, the radio station you
: listened to in your market dropped Casey's
: show, and replaced it w/ Rick's - but that
: doesn't mean they were the SAME show, as you
: apparently believed! In fact, their
: countdowns are based on completely different
: sources. And if you happen to live in a
: large market, there's a good possibility
: that CK's show was picked up by a rival
: station at the time - meaning you still
: could've heard his show each weekend, but
: you would've had to adjust your dial...

No need for insulting someones intelligence. Again, I know what I heard. Ok maybe they were completly different shows, but they did not convey that at all.

: Again, we are clearly talking about two
: different countdown shows here. And while I
: now believe you when you say it was CK, it
: was NOT "AT40", as you apparently

Sure, ok fine. Just that Casey Kasem was ALWAYS calling it Americas Top 40 countdown, but I suppose Casey had no idea what he was doing.

: thought! Both Shadoe Stevens and Rick Dees
: were off hosting their own separate and
: aforementioned shows at that time (1991).
: And since I had pretty much lost interest in
: "current" music by '91, I'll admit
: I rarely listened to any of them...

: You clearly stated that you were mad at Dees
: for "ruining" CK's show, when, in
: fact, you should have been upset w/ your
: local radio station for dumping Casey's
: show, and replacing it w/ Rick's. That's why
: I called your anger "misdirected".
: And since I have enjoyed Dees for nearly 20
: years now, I felt it was worth coming to his
: defense, and setting the record straight w/
: the different countdown shows...

I liked his talk show, I didn't like his radio talk show.

Once again, I know what I heard. I know what they said. I really am not interested if anybody thinks I heard something else. I think I know better than anybody else what I was listening to during 1991.

: Hey, I fell in love w/ "AT40" all the
: way back in 1981! Listened to it
: religiously till about '85, and maybe about
: half the time for the next 2-3 years after
: that. And I've always enjoyed CK very much.
: Was I disappointed to see him replaced by
: Shadoe Stevens in 1988??? You bet! In fact,
: it was CK's departure and my waning interest
: in "current" music by '88 that led
: me to pretty much abandon "AT40"
: after that! I remember listening to the show
: hosted by SS a total of maybe 5-6 times. It
: just wasn't the same (not necessarily all
: SS's fault). Do I think the original
: "AT40" w/ CK was better than
: Rick's '80s/'90s countdown show??? Yes! And
: yeah, I listened to CK's new show a few
: times in the early '90s as well - but again,
: I didn't think it was quite the same. I have
: yet to hear any of these '80s re-broadcasts
: of "AT40" w/ CK that jm was
: referring to, but I'll be keeping my ears
: open...

Same here...

I guess we can agree that we disagree. You seem convinced that I didn't know what I was listening to, yet I KNOW what I was hearing, and I know what Casey was saying each and every broadcast.

Suffice to say, it really doesn't matter. I'm not interested in discussing this much further. Clearly we don't agree on what was played.