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Subject: Albums the artists wished they hadn't recorded!
I'd have to say my #1 vote would be for...
"With Sympathy" by Ministry
The first album and full of cheezy (yet tasty) synth pop! Absolutely nothing like the Industrial monster Al Jourgensen soon turned into.
Subject: Re: Albums the artists wished they hadn't recorded
i agree! i bought the compilation with all of ministry's earlier stuff. nasty. i gave it away.
Subject: Re: Albums the artists wished they hadn't recorded
How bad was early Ministry?
I'm only familiar with thier later industrial rock material like "Stigmata" & "N.W.O.". Good thing they stuck with their "current" stuff. 8) BTW, I'm not much of a fan of industrial rock. But Nine Nich Nails and Ministry have a couple of good songs.
Subject: Re: Albums the artists wished they hadn't recorded
what i remembered, it was lite and bouncy. al jourgansen must have been a nice person at one time, it was nothing like the sound he became famous for.
Subject: Re: Albums the artists wished they hadn't recorded
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How bad was early Ministry?
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It's not that they were all that bad it was just peppy Synth-Pop dance music circa 1983. You’d just never think that it was the same guy that went on to record “The Land of Rape and Honey” and "The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste".
From "I Wanted to Tell Her"
"just like the wind you blew away your happy lover's touch
you bring the blues into my heart just like a rush
i cannot bear the way my heart has helped to keep you close
of you my babe i cannot get enough
you touch me baby"
From "Work For Love
"you said you needed full time help
cos you're all alone
i said i'd work for nothing at all
if i just could take you home
and now you're taking applications
for your love
you wanted certain specifications
i circled the one that said all the above"
Here's a link to more lyrics from the 1st album
http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/ministry/withsymphathy.html#4
Subject: Re: Albums the artists wished they hadn't recorded
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what i remembered, it was lite and bouncy. al jourgansen must have been a nice person at one time, it was nothing like the sound he became famous for.
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I don't think A.J. was EVER a nice person. I think he's a drug- addled sociopath who glommed onto the early '80s synth-pop trend and milked it for all he could. He never liked the "With Sympathy" period songs he wrote, but he knew they'd make him money.
I like most of the songs on "With Sympathy" (yes, they are cheesy, but in a good way), also "Every Day is Halloween," "The Nature of Love," and the entire "Twitch" album, plus the "Over the Shoulder" single, which is appended to the "Twitch" CD.
The reason I like the "Twitch" material so much is because the entire sound was constructed by Adrian Sherwood and Garth Jones.
Apparently Paul Barker is a nice guy, but I think Al is 100% scummy and disgusting. Two more offensive Al things:
1. He claimed he invented house music.
2. He and PB took bad thrash metal, added a drum machine, and called THAT industrial music. So, thanks to Ministry and Nine Inch Nails, little Johnny Nebraska is completely misinformed about what industrial music is.
As for other albums the artists wish they hadn't recorded. Philip Oakey called earlier Human League releases "rotten records" as "Dare" was reaching its popular zenith. I LOVE those early records before Maryn Ware and Ian Craig Marsh left to form Heaven 17. I also prefer H17 to HL.
Mark Hollis repudiated early Talk Talk when "The Colour of Spring" came out. He asserted he didn't like the synth sound, Talk Talk used them out of economic necessity, and he resented the "synth-pop" label. Funny thing is, when they were offered opening spot for Duran Duran, Talk Talk could have said no!
Peter Hook of New Order likes to badmouth the "Movement" album.
As for records the artists SHOULD wish they hadn't made...that's another story.