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DL has resorted to things like (and I'm not making this up) "Goth night" at Disneyland to get people to show up.
Don't get me wrong, if your are a kid or still a kid a heart, it's great, but theres something going stale at DL in CA, some of the magic is gone.
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I can see a black-on-black Goofy with black lipstick and too much eye shadow! :))
There was a big to-do last year about gay couples congregating at Disneyworld on a certain day of the month, or something.  All the conservatives and evangelicals were up in arms.  The same crowd tried to boycott Disney a few years before for offering partner benefits to gay employees.  How different from the '70s.  My brother-in-law's grandfather was an electrician for Disney when they were building in Orlando, but Disney wouldn't let Paul into the park because he had--gasp!--long hair!

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The whole Disney-esque catalog of misinformation that permeates the media and soils young minds with sick and twisted concepts.  for example: the pretty girl has azure eyes, alabaster skin and golden locks and she is the one who always wins the prince's affections.  dark hair/skin = ugly, bad, enemy.     light hair/skin = pretty, good, trustworthy, is disgusting.  Thus, the entire sorted collection of Disneyland-s are there to gather more revenue to support the cause and spread this elitest, ugly misinformation to children worldwide.  And their parents sit back shaking their heads like automatons in collective unquestioning uninquisitive approval, "yes, yes, isn't that cute" or "sweet.  You wanna see that again little Johnny? Drill another oxymoronic thought into your supple little noggin"  Don't bother with overpriced themeparks.  go hiking or something  
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Geez, who's the leader of the club as hateful as can be?  You have a point (sort of) about the messages the movies send--I don't really like the idea of princesses wanting to be rescued and such--but as far as your ethnic stereotyping charge, you really don't have a leg to stand on.  The Jungle Book and Aladdin are just off the top of my head as examples of Disney movies with dark-skinned heroes.  Mulan is another.  My kids love Disney World (if you go, use the fastpass so you don't have to wait in line so long) but ultimately any "oxymoronic" thoughts drilled into their heads pretty much come from me.  Funny that your attitude is just as typical as the one it condemns.

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... wait in line for almost 2 hours each ride . It's still fun.
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Must be a real blast.   :P

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Is it overated, I've never gone to either,
Also, until a couple of years ago, my family didn't even have a VCR, It left me with emotional scars, and it hindered my social development.
Because I had to stay up and watch TV.
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I don't know about overrated, but it is OVERPRICED.  :P

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I don't know about Disneyworld, but Disneyland is another ball of wax..
I live about 25 mins from Anaheim and both Disneyland and the new California Adventure is in trouble.
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Disneyland is quickly loosing it's marketshare in LA, and I think a lot of it has to do with the new expansion.

I had an annual pass for DL for several years, and I loved going there.  But more and more lately, they are making decisions that makes it harder for families to afford going there.

One of the biggest is when they built "California Adventure".  In order to do this, they took up most of the original parking lot, which they rebuilt across the street.  It just so happens that the area they chose (which is HUGE) is where 10 years ago a lot of budget motels were located.

While it would be nice to be able to stay at the Disneyland Hotel, that is not within the budget of a lot of people.  In the last 10-15 years, I have seen almost all of the affordable motels replaced by huge costly ones.  While a $30-45 a night motel is affordable by most, a $100+ a night one is not.  This has forced more and more families to choose to go to places like Knott's Berry Farm and Six Flags Magic Mountain.

Besides, I am not sure if this park even belongs at Disneyland.  It would probably be better if placed say outside of Edison Field (where the Angels play) or some other location.

I have to admit, I am glad to hear of Eisner's removal as CEO.  The company has been floundering for the last several years, and it is past time for him to step down.  Maybe somebody younger and more in touch with the families of today will do a better job of managing the company.

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The whole Disney-esque catalog of misinformation that permeates the media and soils young minds with sick and twisted concepts.  for example: the pretty girl has azure eyes, alabaster skin and golden locks and she is the one who always wins the prince's affections.  dark hair/skin = ugly, bad, enemy.     light hair/skin = pretty, good, trustworthy, is disgusting.  Thus, the entire sorted collection of Disneyland-s are there to gather more revenue to support the cause and spread this elitest, ugly misinformation to children worldwide.  And their parents sit back shaking their heads like automatons in collective unquestioning uninquisitive approval, "yes, yes, isn't that cute" or "sweet.  You wanna see that again little Johnny? Drill another oxymoronic thought into your supple little noggin"  Don't bother with overpriced themeparks.  go hiking or something  
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Wow. I could have sworn that Disney films were made to entertain people of all ages. Not just the cartoons are harmful to society, it's the live action ones as well. Herbie the Love Bug? I never thought of it, but you have opened my eyes to the fact that Herbie was made to be controled by human beings, but was able to shed his reliance and stick it to us. Also, Lady and the Tramp is one of the worst offenders of all. Tramp was so struck by Lady's beauty, he wasn't half the dog he used to be from that point forward. It's always the prettiest dogs that get the tramps.

Don't even get me started on Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang!  >:(

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The whole Disney-esque catalog of misinformation that permeates the media and soils young minds with sick and twisted concepts.  for example: the pretty girl has azure eyes, alabaster skin and golden locks and she is the one who always wins the prince's affections.  dark hair/skin = ugly, bad, enemy.     light hair/skin = pretty, good, trustworthy, is disgusting.  Thus, the entire sorted collection of Disneyland-s are there to gather more revenue to support the cause and spread this elitest, ugly misinformation to children worldwide.End Quote

Actually, a great number of their stories are based on ancient folk tales.  Cinderella had ugly sisters, Cinderella had an ugly witch, Alice met ugly people in Wonderland, the Little Mermaid confronted an ugly Sea Witch, and in The Lion King, it was a take-off of Hamlet.  Disney did not invent these caracters.

And look at the witch in Snow White BEFORE she changed herself, she was beautiful.  Aurora had black hair.  Cruella may be ugly to some people, but she was physically based off of Phyllis Diller, the actress who did the voice of the character.

Remember, most of Disney's movies were not original.  Until the last 20 years, they were based on either folktales or children's stories.

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Disneyland is quickly loosing it's marketshare in LA, and I think a lot of it has to do with the new expansion.

I had an annual pass for DL for several years, and I loved going there.  But more and more lately, they are making decisions that makes it harder for families to afford going there.

One of the biggest is when they built "California Adventure".  In order to do this, they took up most of the original parking lot, which they rebuilt across the street.  It just so happens that the area they chose (which is HUGE) is where 10 years ago a lot of budget motels were located.

While it would be nice to be able to stay at the Disneyland Hotel, that is not within the budget of a lot of people.  In the last 10-15 years, I have seen almost all of the affordable motels replaced by huge costly ones.  While a $30-45 a night motel is affordable by most, a $100+ a night one is not.  This has forced more and more families to choose to go to places like Knott's Berry Farm and Six Flags Magic Mountain.

Besides, I am not sure if this park even belongs at Disneyland.  It would probably be better if placed say outside of Edison Field (where the Angels play) or some other location.

I have to admit, I am glad to hear of Eisner's removal as CEO.  The company has been floundering for the last several years, and it is past time for him to step down.  Maybe somebody younger and more in touch with the families of today will do a better job of managing the company.
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Disneyland seems to be in a tight spot with both money problems and saftey issues.
The latest thing they have done is to "tighten up" the Teacup ride.

If you've ever been to DL, you know of and have ridden on the famous Teacup ride, it swopes around while the actual teacup you sit in can be spun by the passengers, kinda fun if you have friends that can't take the spinning, heh, heh.. ;D

But due to saftey concerns, they have tightend the teacups so that it is impossible, to near impossible to get them to "spin" anymore. From what I read some disabled peron was thrown out of one (don't know why a disabled person was alowed on it in the first place).

Its sad, its one of the few rides that both adults and kids could really enjoy... :(

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The whole Disney-esque catalog of misinformation that permeates the media and soils young minds with sick and twisted concepts.  for example: the pretty girl has azure eyes, alabaster skin and golden locks and she is the one who always wins the prince's affections.  dark hair/skin = ugly, bad, enemy.     light hair/skin = pretty, good, trustworthy, is disgusting.  Thus, the entire sorted collection of Disneyland-s are there to gather more revenue to support the cause and spread this elitest, ugly misinformation to children worldwide.  And their parents sit back shaking their heads like automatons in collective unquestioning uninquisitive approval, "yes, yes, isn't that cute" or "sweet.  You wanna see that again little Johnny? Drill another oxymoronic thought into your supple little noggin"  Don't bother with overpriced themeparks.  go hiking or something  
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I agree in general, Erinfidel, Disney has always had a rightwing reactionary streak.  Whenever an organization insists on everything being wholesome, safe, and sweet, you end up with conformity, paranoia, and resentment of various "others."  
Some of the PC scholars oversell the effect of Disney's cultural stereotypes, but there's definitely a negative pattern.  The movie business, not just Disney per se, has demonized Arabs for many decades.  I also believe the constant pitting of unequivocal good versus unequivocal evil misrepresents humanity to children, and makes them vulnerable to the kind of simplistic bigotry sold by Fox News, Limbaugh, and the Bush administration.

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heard recently the price at Disneyland is nearly $50.00
or around $49.50!!!! You're paying for those rides you wait all day to go on once....
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There are cheaper thrills to be had in central Florida.  For instance, you can go to all those little roadhouses and pick fights with the truckers!
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heard recently the price at Disneyland is nearly $50.00
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I guess it is good to be a gimp then.  :P

I went to DL about 10 years ago with my fiancee after she had a knee injury, so we got her a wheelchair.  That was when I discovered that handicaped people went to the front of the line.  (I was an annual pass holder for 3 years and never knew that!)  It was great to be able to go on most of the rides we wanted to in one day.

After that, my own knee injury got agrivated, and I started to take my cane with me.  (an hour or so is fine, but walking 6-10 hours even with it becomes agony).  Now I bring it to every amusement park.

The only park I give a thumbs down to for handicaped is Six Flags Magic Mountain in California.  I worked there, and the park is excellent.  The thumbs down is simply because it was built on a mountain, so access to the rides is almost impossible to people with wheelchairs or canes.  It is a shame that now that age and injuries are catching up to me, I can no longer go to one of my favorite parks.