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Correct me if I'm wrong but the 80's started at 12:00 A.M,
January 1, 1980 and ended at 12:59.59 January 31, 1989.

If a time fell before those times it was the 70's and if it fell after those times it was the 1990's. Simple

Peace,

Loren
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Didn't you already post this?  ???

It is true that technically from a calendar standpoint the 80's began on January 1st, 1980.  But culturally, stuff like this doesn't always follow it to the exact day and hour.  It's not like the 70's just magically screeched to a hault and disappeared once 1980 rolled around.  Ronald Reagan wasn't even sworn into the office of the President yet in 1980. Like I said, it is also true that disco died out in 1980 and MTV came out in 1981.  And I'm sure there were plenty of people in 1980 and 1981 walking around saying, "say groovy man, these are the 80's!". But most everything else from a pop cultural stand point seemed stuck in the late 70's.  Bell bottoms, that shaggy and wavy blow dry hair, CB radios, Atari (which really was more of a 70's video game then an 80's one), CHiPs, Happy Days, Mork and Mindy, and many songs with a strong disco sound were still around in the early 1980's.  In my opinion, the early 80's were not fully out of the 70's. The early 80's were a mixture of what we would come to know as "the 80's", and A LOT of left over 70's stuff.  

If people can insist that the early 1990's were a rerun of the late 80's and that the early 00's are a rerun of the late 90's.....then why is it so off base to say that the early 80's still had a VERY HEAVY 70ish influence?

I just don't think the 80's were fully formed until 1983, or maybey even 1984.  But I'm willing to accept as early as 1982 being the 80's, because there was enough 80's culture around by '82 to counter the 70's, for you to reasonably call that year the 80's.  

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I think after the movie Dirty Dancing, people started wearing '80s fashion.
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Dirty Dancing was in 87. Thats too far off for the starting point for the decade of the 80's. The 80's became the 80's in 83 from my calculations with Madonna, Cyndi Lauper, and Michael Jackson's "Thriller" album which came out in 82 though. There was still touches of 70's in 81 with disco/funk like Earth Wind & Fire, Sos Band, Kool & The Gang(were big in the late 70's/early 80's), and Donna Summer. I think by 80 70's shows like "Whats Happenin" and "Sanford & Sun" were off the air by 1980-1981 at least. In 78-99 "Different Strokes" and "Facts of Life" debut but they were truly 80's shows. "Whats Happenin" tried to come back in 85 as "Whats Happenin Now" but that didn't pan out. As for the 90's 90's didn't start until 92 not 94 like somebody said before. The true 90's period was like 92-98. When Britney Spears first song came out that was the end of the 90's. I'm more in touch with the 90's than the 80's because I'm in my early 20's but than again I feel more in touch with the 80's than the 00's right now pop culture wise.

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I've always been curious...but why is it everytime I talk to someone about the 80's...they act as if my lifestyle or culture didn't even exist??

Not only does rap music originate from the 70's...hiphop and electron were in fairly high demand, from Herbie Hancocks "Rockit" to Paul Hardcastles early electro. Dare I say it, yes even hiphop used electronic instruments long before your Duran Durans and your Wham pop idols.

Personally, I moved to the United States in 1981 and within the first year I joined with a breakdance crew...I've followed hiphop every since, and right now I literally have 100s of hiphop records dating to the early 80s...which btw, I will be playing some at the local mall this weekend for a breakdance exhibition.

Sorry people, but the 80s were about more than just badly dressed white peole who couldn't dance to the "disposable" pop music that dominated the innovative Top 40 airwaves.

No disrespect to you guys...but sometimes it just pisses me off.

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I've always been curious...but why is it everytime I talk to someone about the 80's...they act as if my lifestyle or culture didn't even exist??

Not only does rap music originate from the 70's...hiphop and electron were in fairly high demand, from Herbie Hancocks "Rockit" to Paul Hardcastles early electro. Dare I say it, yes even hiphop used electronic instruments long before your Duran Durans and your Wham pop idols.

Personally, I moved to the United States in 1981 and within the first year I joined with a breakdance crew...I've followed hiphop every since, and right now I literally have 100s of hiphop records dating to the early 80s...which btw, I will be playing some at the local mall this weekend for a breakdance exhibition.

Sorry people, but the 80s were about more than just badly dressed white peole who couldn't dance to the "disposable" pop music that dominated the innovative Top 40 airwaves.

No disrespect to you guys...but sometimes it just pisses me off.
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Hip-Hop came along and hit big in like 87-88 period with like Public Enemy, and Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince. I mean the early to mid 80's you had New Wave bands dominating. I think like 83 Grand Master Flash and Furious Five did have hits like "White Lines" and "The message" but it really wasn't until the late 80's when hip-hop hit big.  As far as comparing Duran Duran to Wham. Wham had a few alright songs like "Everything She Wants" and "Wonderful Christmas Time". Wham was basically a stepping stone for George Michael's solo career. Duran Duran made alot classic songs.

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I've always been curious...but why is it everytime I talk to someone about the 80's...they act as if my lifestyle or culture didn't even exist??


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What people post is what they experianced. In my neighborhood, most of the people were conservative, Ronnie was president, there was a cold war, most kids learned how to hide under a school desk when the nuclear alarm went off, and we did not have MTV until the late 80s.

I was not saying Rap is a horrible instrument for music or commentary. I was just saying in the 80s rap was not popular for me or those who lived in my neighborhood, and what I associate most strongly with the 80s were the innocent times, fun comedy movies, pop music like duran duran, baseball, apple pie, baseball cards, good american fun. By the time rap came around to my neighborhood, there was no innocence or ignorance left. The blinds were removed.

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I whould say it is hard to define the 70s and 80s in terms of music styles. This is how I see the musical transitions from the late 70s to the late 90s

Late 70s - Disco and punk

Early 80s - Disco, new wave and punk

Mid 80s - Pop

Late 80s - Pop, hip-hop, indie and rap

Early 90s - Pop, dance, indie and rap

Mid 90s - Pop, dance, indie and rap

Late 90s - Pop, dance, indie and rap

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Here's how I see it by era and artists:

Late 70's early 80's Funk(Earth Wind & Fire, Kool and The Gang and Shalamar.)

early to mid 80's: New Wave (Depeche Mode, New Order, and Duran Duran.) and Pop/R&B (Michael Jackson, Cyndi Lauper, and Madonna.)

late 80's/early 90's Pop/R&B(Jody Watley, Taylor Dayne and Sheena Easton.)  House/Dance(C&C Music Factory, Snap, and Technotronic.) and Hair Metal(Poison, Scorpions, and Motley Crue.)

early to mid 90's: Grunge(Pearl Jam, Nirvana, STP, and Soundgarden.)  and Gangsta Rap(Tupac, Snoop Dogg, and Dr. Dre)

late 90's to early 00's Pop-Rap(Puff Daddy, Mase, and Nelly) Teen-Pop(Britney Spears, Backstreet Boys, and N"sync.)  and singer-songwriter(Alicia Keys, and Norah Jones.)

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When do you think the 80's really began and the 70's ended?  Sure disco may have been dead in 1980, and MTV may have premiered in 1981, but there is no denying a STRONG late 70's vibe in those years.  The influence of the 70's is very apparent through a lot of the early 80's actually.

My opinion?  It was never really the 80's until sometime in 1982.  And even then, there was still a lot of 70's still around, but enough 80's to counter it.
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For me, the 1980's was a mindset.  For me, it was when my perception changed about how I viewed the world.  And I can still remember where I was when it happened.

It was the night of December 8, 1980.  I was driving in the snow, and a news report came on saying that John Lennon was shot.

On that night, I realized that the 70's were over.  A month and a half later, the hostages were released from Iran, and we had a new president.

SO for me, the 70's ended in December 1980, and by the end of January 1981, the 80's started in reality.

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I think the '80s became the '80s in 1983 or '84. That was when the fashion from the '70s was starting to become '80s. People got rid of their straitened flat hair for more crimps and volume. Look at the fashion in the movies also. E.T. was made in 1982, but the fashion in the movie was still '70s. I think after the movie Dirty Dancing, people started wearing '80s fashion.
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You clearly were born in the 80's.  Only someone who was born in the 80's would think that the decade started in 1987, or whenever it was they started to have any kind of memories.

MTV came out in 1981, and Reagan was President....that was CLEARLY "the 80's", that was not a 70's culture.  Just because the 1982 E.T. movie had some late 70ish looking fashions doesn't make that the 70's.  There were left over fashions and hairstyles from the late 70's here and there, but I consider that the 80's.  Honestly, I even consider 1980 to be the 80's.  The core years, or true or "real" 80's were from 1980/'81 to 1986/'87.

I'm not 43 years old or anything, I was born in 1978 and I'm 25 years old.  But I remember what years were the true 80's and what was the late 80's or early 90's.  The core years of the 90's were pretty much exactly the same as the pattern of the 80's, 1991 to 1996/'97 were the "real 90's".  Nirvana burst onto the scene in 1991.  And 1990 was a year that was stuck in limbo, being neither part of the 80's or the 90's.  

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Here's how I see it by era and artists:

Late 70's-early 80's: Funk(Earth Wind & Fire, Kool and The Gang and Shalamar.)

early to mid 80's: New Wave (Depeche Mode, New Order, and Duran Duran.) and Pop/R&B (Michael Jackson, Cyndi Lauper, and Madonna.)

late 80's/early 90's: Pop/R&B(Jody Watley, Taylor Dayne and Sheena Easton.)  House/Dance(C&C Music Factory, Snap, and Technotronic.) and Hair Metal(Poison, Scorpions, and Motley Crue.)

early to mid 90's: Grunge(Pearl Jam, Nirvana, STP, and Soundgarden.)  and Gangsta Rap(Tupac, Snoop Dogg, and Dr. Dre)

late 90's to early 00's: Pop-Rap(Puff Daddy, Mase, and Nelly) Teen-Pop(Britney Spears, Backstreet Boys, and N"sync.)  and singer-songwriters(Alicia Keys, and Norah Jones.)

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I would've also included Nu-Metal and rap-rock in the late 90s-early 00's era(Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Citizen Kang, Sugar Ray).  I hear it's dying down though.

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 When do you think the 80's really began and the 70's ended?

Got me...what?  When we stopped running around with fat combs in our back pockets?
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I still carry a comb in my back pocket. :D


Howard

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I still carry a comb in my back pocket. :D


Howard
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Now, Howard... please tell me it isn't a fat one with marble-swirl and a hole at the end...
And uh...you're not sporting a "Shaun Shag" are you? ;)

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Now, Howard... please tell me it isn't a fat one with marble-swirl and a hole at the end...
And uh...you're not sporting a "Shaun Shag" are you? ;)
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No,It's a skinny one. Nope,I don't sport a Shaun Shag.I sport a "wave". :D

Howard

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Nope,I don't sport a Shaun Shag.I sport a "wave". :D

Howard
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Does that mean your hair is waving goodbye to your head ? :o ;D

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Does that mean your hair is waving goodbye to your head ? :o ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;
HEEEHEEE*SNORT*HEEEHEEE*SNORT*HEEEHEEE*SNORT*HEEEHEEE!!!

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Does that mean your hair is waving goodbye to your head ? :o ;D
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Yes.unfortunatley I am losing my hair.It is thinning.When I either comb my hair or see it on my pillow after I get up in the morning.baldness runs in my family. ;D

Howard

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Yes.unfortunatley I am losing my hair.It is thinning.When I either comb my hair or see it on my pillow after I get up in the morning.baldness runs in my family. ;D

Howard
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Then you must look awful silly running around with a comb in your back pocket!
BESIDES!!! It's the 90's, dude!
Here, just stuff a Swiffer cloth in your back pocket instead! ;)

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Then you must look awful silly running around with a comb in your back pocket!
BESIDES!!! It's the 90's, dude!
Here, just stuff a Swiffer cloth in your back pocket instead! ;)
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I don't mind Daffy walking around with a comb in my pocket.I wear a cap to work and when I take it off,I brush my hair, whatever's left of it. ;)


Howard

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I don't mind Daffy walking around with a comb in my pocket.I wear a cap to work and when I take it off,I brush my hair, whatever's left of it. ;)


Howard
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Got 'ya, my man! ;)

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Got 'ya, my man! ;)
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would you like me to send a picture of myself to you?You could actually see my thinness of my hair. :D

Howard

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would you like me to send a picture of myself to you?You could actually see my thinness of my hair. :D

Howard
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Aaah...I got it now, Howard...the 70's ENDED with your HAIR...
(I saw the light/ I saw the light/Praise the Lord I saw the light!) ;D

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Aaah...I got it now, Howard...the 70's ENDED with your HAIR...
(I saw the light/ I saw the light/Praise the Lord I saw the light!) ;D
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Actually Daff,I had hair in the 70's.I was just a little boy.In the 80's I had more hair but then as the 90's rolled around my hair thinned out. ;D

Howard

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Actually Daff,I had hair in the 70's.I was just a little boy.In the 80's I had more hair but then as the 90's rolled around my hair thinned out. ;D

Howard
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Damnit! I KNEW the 90's sucked!! >:(

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Now everytime after my shower,I comb my hair,clumps come out.well,small ones.eventually I'm gonna get that Ron Popeil product that blackens your hair. ;D


Howard
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This hair thing is really BOTHERING you isn't it, Howard?

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This hair thing is really BOTHERING you isn't it, Howard?
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not really! I still got some hair. ;D

Howard

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not really! I still got some hair. ;D

Howard
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Oh yeah?  Who's got the rest? ;)

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Oh yeah?  Who's got the rest? ;)
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My pillow and comb. ;)

Howard

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My pillow and comb. ;)

Howard
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Here:
http://www.wilshirewigs.com/pagedocs/evagabor.html

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Here:
http://www.wilshirewigs.com/pagedocs/evagabor.html
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Ok,Daf,I'm not that bald.please,stop exaggerating! ;D

Howard

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Ok,Daf,I'm not that bald.please,stop exaggerating! ;D

Howard
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I think it no exaggeration to say we have effectively killed this thread!  :D

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I'm keeping this thread ALIVE and WELL.

What other"hair stuff" would you like to discuss,Daffo? ;D


Howard
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Now THIS is worth checking out!
http://perfectsideburns.com/

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Now THIS is worth checking out!
http://perfectsideburns.com/
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I look like Elvis?  ??? ;D

I would need to grow my sideburns just a little longer. ;)


Howard

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I would need to grow my sideburns just a little longer. ;)

Howard
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Righto!  Just grow 'em out and scrape 'em across the top of your head! :D

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Righto!  Just grow 'em out and scrape 'em across the top of your head! :D
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Now,I think that would seem just a wee bit painful. ;D Don't  you think?  ;)

Howard

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Now,I think that would seem just a wee bit painful. ;D Don't  you think?  ;)

Howard
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Baaah!  Don't be such a wimp!

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Baaah!  Don't be such a wimp!
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Me a wimp? Nah,I don't think so. :D

Howard