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I'm certain she was a headbanger back in the 80's, they were everywhere back then.  I think I can offer some insight into your counselor's reactions to Debbie Gibson.  Now I don't know how old you are, but I'm 25, so I'm old enough to vividly remember when someone your counselor's age was a "cool" teenager/early 20's....if you know what I mean.  From what I remember about the 80's, most of the teenagers over 15 weren't into the Late 80's pre-teen stuff like Debbie Gibson, Tiffany, or New Kids on the Block.  I mean Tiffany was singing to 4-14/15 year olds at the malls back in 1988, so why would a 19 year old be into her?   Even fewer people in their early 20's were into Debbie Gibson or New Kids.  They were just too cool for stuff like that.  Sure there were exceptions, but from what I remember, the VAST majority of them thought they were above such kids stuff.  It was always looked at as an elementary or middle school thing.  Not for the high schoolers or college students.

I even remember back around that 1983-'85 time when Michael Jackson was MEGA POPULAR....I was in elementary school and so into him, but my older brother's and sisters that were teenagers felt they were just too cool for Jackson and put him down.  Secretly I know they thought his stuff was cool, (how else could he have been so popular), but they were in that phase were they couldn't admit it.  If your school counselor was a headbanger back then, that means she was even more snobby about such things then a typical 80's teen, as she was into the more harder/intense stuff.

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How can a fan of Skid Row, Motley Crue,Warrant,etc. evolveinto a Mandy Moore lovin' soccer mom? (No offense to people in their early '30's.) Well, Deborah Gibson, Jennifer Lopez, Ben Affleck,etc. are in their 30's,but that's not the case right now.

....What's your opinion about her and how could a former headbanger/Deb Basher evolve into a Mandy Moore fan?
(No offense to Mandy Moore fans)
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Sometimes I wonder about this point you bring up.  I've noticed this even among people around my age who are in their 20's have been turning into soccer moms (or soccer dads).  I even know a girl in her early 20's who acts like a soccer mom.  I remember when they used to love all the controversial stuff, but now they think there's too much violence and sex everywhere.  I guess it comes with growing up.

As to your school counselor, I suspect she feels more detached to Mandy Moore.  Mandy Moore is not a part of her generation, so she can approve of her lighthearted bubble gum pop.  But as soon you as mention Debbie Gibson or New Kids on the Block, you're school counselor will flash back to when she was younger in the 80's and "too cool" for such  elementary/middle school music.  So for a brief moment she starts thinking the way she did as an older teenager and starts to laugh at Debbie Gibson.  And she will probably never admit that she used to listened to music that adults didn't approve of back then too.  Bring up Tipper Gore and the PMRC and I bet she'll act like it never happened.

Hope my input helped....

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Thanks for your insight Paul S.
I would like to talk to my school counselor,but I already graduated last year. (That'll give my age away.) I'll try to contact her by calling my school. (or finding her name in the phone book)  :)  
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I graduated highschool in 2002. (When "A Walk To Remember" was released) And remember listening to pop music from the late 1980's/early 1990's.  I have friends that listen to both Eminem & N'Sync. I tend to listen to new wave and some '80's pop acts. Yes, If I were to be a teen in the 1980's, I would probably be a fan of The Cure & Depeche Mode and a closet Debbie Gibson fan. If they existed.

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I graduated highschool in 2002. (When "A Walk To Remember" was released) And remember listening to pop music from the late 1980's/early 1990's.  I have friends that listen to both Eminem & N'Sync. I tend to listen to new wave and some '80's pop acts. Yes, If I were to be a teen in the 1980's, I would probably be a fan of The Cure & Depeche Mode and a closet Debbie Gibson fan. If they existed.
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Well, between 1987/1990. I actually work in a used CD store...so it's more liable for generation gaps to collide.
And I wonder what would happen if I show my girlfriend,who's a fan of Sally Field's movies, "The Flying Nun"? ::)
Best if I didn't try.  :)

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Well, I know the past is the past.  :)
It came up in my head a few days ago.
Ironically, I tend to listen to Bon Jovi, Poison, and some pop metal. Not to mention new wave. The cheerful Go Go's to the moody sounds of The Smiths. And some old school hip hop on the side. Add some '90's alternative with some '70's pop minus the disco & post '90's teen pop. Well with exception of  The Bee Gees.
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The 'Saturday Night Fever" soundtrack is the only disco album I have.

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I have respect for Deborah Gibson. Aside from being mutli-talented and doing her own work in most phases, I respect the fact that she didn't stoop down to degrading herself, she didn't go stripping off her clothes and her dignity to revive her career like Tiffany did. There's definitely something to be said for that.

Besides, Gibson's material was always better than Tiffany's and any other teen stars of the time. If there were others, they were not memorable.
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Agree.  :) Atleast she opened up for N'Sync in 2001 instead of posing nude or appearing on some cheesy reality show eating Alpo (dog food). I actually feel sorry for Tiffany when she decided to pose nude because her recent album was critically acclaimed by the music critics,but a flop by record sales. I'm not a fan of Tiffany,but the music industry should give many artists a chance. Tiffany's recent album was said to be similar to Alanis Morissette. Ironically, (no pun intended) Alanis was a teen pop idol in Canada during the late 1980's/early '90's & appeared on a kids' show in the mid '80's. If Alanis,the teen queen,were to be huge in the US, "Jagged Little Pill" might've been a flop.  Deborah Gibson should get more respect as a singer/song writer with her 2 recent albums. ("Deborah",1997 & "M.Y.O.B.",2001) At least she's well recieved in the theatre circut. :)

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I agree that Debbie Gibson is far more talented than today's "teen queens" and as Hairspray said, she has far more class than any of them.  My fav song was "In Your Eyes".  Tiffany wasn't bad, but D. G. blew her out of the water, talent-wise.
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Not to sound like a smart alec,but It's "Lost In Your Eyes", a great ballad though.   8) Atleast I didn't get any negative responses.  8) Deb does has more class and talent compared to current "teen queens". Britney,Christina,Mandy...take some notes.

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 :-X Sorry, I just suspended myself for a disturbing comment regarding "The Flying Nun". It's in the "Worst '60's TV Shows"
section in "Before the 1970" messageboard.

It was a "Miami Vice" parody featuring Siser Bertrille & Carlos Remirez. And special guest: Vanity.  :-X
I'll answer some comments by Saturday the 15th of March.

I only expressed my opinions about classicTV.

My counselor is about 34 years old. (I think?)

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Actually no. I will continue with this post.
I was told that "The Flying Nun" was just a dumb show &
It's not controversial to diss the show like MST3K does to ols Sci Fi movies.

I also like some songs from Michelle Branch & Vanessa Carlton.  I have nothing against Mandy Moore,but her music isn't my cup of tea. I just don't like current teen pop.
But I actually have an eclectic taste of music. From The Beatles to The White Stripes.

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May I ask one question Jose Ramos?  Why do you keep responding to your own posts?
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NO COMMENT...

I tend to "correct" myself.

With the last 2 or 3 posts, I tend not to think before I write. (execpt for this comment)  

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I try to correct myself...End Quote

Check out the "modify" tab in your posts. You can actually click on that and correct your errors or re-word something.  ;) :)