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Subject: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: Rice Cube on 01/21/03 at 09:15 a.m.

But it sorta helped that I was but a wee lad and didn't have to worry about the world being blown to smithereenies by religious fundamentalists...sigh.

I'm depressed.  Where's the Retro show when you need it?

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: shazzaah on 01/21/03 at 09:43 a.m.

There was just a different atmosphere in the 80's. We are surrounded by death, doubt, fear, depression, 24/7 in the 00's so much that it almost feels like I am choking on it! I hate that todays teens seem so much older than their age, and jaded because of what we see everyday.  :( I think about my little ones and wonder what their teenage lives are going to be like...

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: 80s_cheerleader on 01/21/03 at 09:51 a.m.

I was in high school in the 80's and it was a small school (67 in my graduating class).  When I look back and think of how it was then compared to now, I also worry about my kids.  Back then, at least in my school, if you had sex with your boyfriend, you were considered a slut, now if you DON'T, there is something wrong with you.  The 'hardest' drug was marijuana, which was only done by the "stoners", and now, there are parties where it is commonplace.  God, I wish I could go back and bring my kids up in those environments...

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: Gerald Mitchell on 01/21/03 at 10:21 a.m.

I remember there was no violence, sex or drugs back in the 80s.  Everything was so peaceful and calm.  And back in the 80s, all the children and teenagers collectively worked for the good of mankind.  

Everyday was a new day back in the 80s, it was a challenge to improve yourself and make yourself a better human being.  Kids respected the adults back then, and behaved themselves and never used any bad language.  And back in the 80s we had a good conservative Republican president in Ronald Reagan, that had morals, decency, and Christian righteousness.

I miss the 80s too.   :'(    

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: Paul S. on 01/21/03 at 10:32 a.m.


Quoting:
I remember there was no violence, sex or drugs back in the 80s.  Everything was so peaceful and calm.End Quote



What 80s were you living in?  Where in the 80s was this perfect utopia set in?  I sure don't remember it.

Quoting:And back in the 80s, all the children and teenagers collectively worked for the good of mankind.End Quote



Oh please.  This never happened and you know it.  

Quoting:
Everyday was a new day back in the 80s, it was a challenge to improve yourself and make yourself a better human being.  Kids respected the adults back then, and behaved themselves and never used any bad language.End Quote



Again dude, I don't remember ANY of this cr*p going on back then.  To me, back in the 1980s it was the same way it is now.  Just different fads and better technology that's all.  But people were still people, and no one acted as holy and almighty as you guys would like to pretend.  

Quoting:
And back in the 80s we had a good conservative Republican president in Ronald Reagan, that had morals, decency, and Christian righteousness.End Quote



:o  

Holy sh*t. This one is just so out there, it doesn't deserve much of a response.

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: pell on 01/21/03 at 10:46 a.m.

Quoting:
I remember there was no violence, sex or drugs back in the 80s.  Everything was so peaceful and calm.  And back in the 80s, all the children and teenagers collectively worked for the good of mankind.  

Everyday was a new day back in the 80s, it was a challenge to improve yourself and make yourself a better human being.  Kids respected the adults back then, and behaved themselves and never used any bad language.  And back in the 80s we had a good conservative Republican president in Ronald Reagan, that had morals, decency, and Christian righteousness.

I miss the 80s too.   :'(    
End Quote



I liked your post. Since the PC '90s, people don't appreciate good sarcasm anymore. :'(

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: shazzaah on 01/21/03 at 11:23 a.m.


Quoting:
I remember there was no violence, sex or drugs back in the 80s.  Everything was so peaceful and calm.  And back in the 80s, all the children and teenagers collectively worked for the good of mankind.  

Everyday was a new day back in the 80s, it was a challenge to improve yourself and make yourself a better human being.  Kids respected the adults back then, and behaved themselves and never used any bad language.  And back in the 80s we had a good conservative Republican president in Ronald Reagan, that had morals, decency, and Christian righteousness.

I miss the 80s too.   :'(    
End Quote



Whatever ::). I was not saying the 80's was a perfect time. Read my post again and see that I was pointing out the fact that teenagers are facing much more much sooner than I did as a teen in the 80's. Did we have the continental USA attacked by a foreign power sometime in the 80's? Perhaps my memory of 80's history is skewed, and I just don't remember it happening... Was teenage binge homicide as prevalent in our high schools in the 80's as it is now? Nope. Don't think so. How many pregnant teenagers did we have in the 80's compared to now? Please, point out the facts....lead me to the statistics. How many celebs did we have that promoted serious crime and made it look ok in the 80's as compared to now and in the nineties(OJ, Eminem, Wynona, the list goes on)? Would love for you to show me the stats on that as well. If I am wrong I do apologize. I was speaking from my personal experience. Perhaps your life was not as good in the 80's, and if that is the case, you have my pity.

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: NitroOFR on 01/21/03 at 11:46 a.m.

Personally I think there was much less cynicism in the 1980s. It seems like people cared more back then. Television, movies, music, etc., was not saturated with sexual crudeness and undignified subject matter, case in point there was a show called "FM Nation" on MTV last month and in one of the shows there was a segment where a bunch of girls in an SUV were driving up to a drive through naked accentuating their bodies and cursing, this was airing at 5 in the evening. It looks like family programming is a thing of the past. I believe today's youth and even adults are being corrupted by all of this. Let us hope for a turnaround.  ;)

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: Rice Cube on 01/21/03 at 11:54 a.m.


Quoting:
I remember there was no violence, sex or drugs back in the 80s.  Everything was so peaceful and calm.  And back in the 80s, all the children and teenagers collectively worked for the good of mankind.  

Everyday was a new day back in the 80s, it was a challenge to improve yourself and make yourself a better human being.  Kids respected the adults back then, and behaved themselves and never used any bad language.  And back in the 80s we had a good conservative Republican president in Ronald Reagan, that had morals, decency, and Christian righteousness.

I miss the 80s too.   :'(    
End Quote



Ah yes...the dreaded sarcastic guest, how fun ::)

And for the record, I liked Ronald Reagan, and so did a good 80% of the population.

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: Amanda on 01/21/03 at 12:01 a.m.


Quoting:
There was just a different atmosphere in the 80's. We are surrounded by death, doubt, fear, depression, 24/7 in the 00's so much that it almost feels like I am choking on it! I hate that todays teens seem so much older than their age, and jaded because of what we see everyday.  :( I think about my little ones and wonder what their teenage lives are going to be like...
End Quote



I worry a lot about my daughter, and not because things are so much worse now than they were in the 80s but because those bad things are much more public now. You want to hear something that would scare the hell out of you?  

My 4 year old daughter (5 next week) was in the bath tub a couple of nights ago playing with her Barbies and I was in the kitchen right across the hall where I could still see her and I was watching her play and she looked so serious so I went in there and asked her what she was playing....She had the little kid Barbie (kelly) laying down on a washcloth and the big barbie sitting on the side of the tub by herself and she said "well, the little girl died." and I said "hunni, why would you play something like that..." and she didnt answer but went on to point to the big Barbie and say "that was the little girls mom, her boyfriend beat her up real bad" my heart broke because I cant imagine why in the world a 4 year old would play something like this and when I asked her again "why would you play something like that?" she said "because those things really happen to people mom"  Well, come to find out, she over heard a lady I was talking to at my boyfriends auto repair shop...she came in and was bruised up real bad and she told me her boyfriend had beat her up and when I asked her why she didnt leave she said he had threatened to kill her kids....but this is the same kind of stuff thats on tv and elsewhere...maybe its just that the  80s were more sheltered...(and that was a good thing)

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: 80sRocked on 01/21/03 at 12:05 a.m.

the best time of my life were in the 80s.  I can honestly say I wish they had never ended, when compared to the 90s and 00s.  I fondly remember my parents not being worried about money and jobs back then, like they are now.  

And don't even get me started on the whole political correctness crap that took over the globe in the 90s.

So many things were new and exciting in the 80s in the field of electronics, fashions, music, movies, etc etc, whereas today they are mostly just cheap knockoffs.  

And someone earlier mentioned Reagan, well, I'm not saying he was a God or othr divine being sent to us from above by any means.  However, considering the 4 years of dispair and misery, aka The Carter Administration, we as a country endured, Reagan was a refreshing change for the better.

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: Lord Garth on 01/21/03 at 02:05 p.m.


Quoting:
I remember there was no violence, sex or drugs back in the 80s.  Everything was so peaceful and calm.  And back in the 80s, all the children and teenagers collectively worked for the good of mankind.  

Everyday was a new day back in the 80s, it was a challenge to improve yourself and make yourself a better human being.  Kids respected the adults back then, and behaved themselves and never used any bad language.  And back in the 80s we had a good conservative Republican president in Ronald Reagan, that had morals, decency, and Christian righteousness.

I miss the 80s too.   :'(    
End Quote



ROTFLMAO!!!!!   :D

That's hilarous dude!!

A lot of people here do sometimes get carried away with glorifying the 80s into something it never was.  This was the same decade that gave us such high cultured art as RAMBO and THE A-TEAM.  And every other TV show had a loud styled MTV influence, and every other movie was about some South American drug lords trying to get their illegal cocaine shipment into America.

Though the thing is, I think people just like to look back on the time they grew up in as being simpler and easier.  It makes people feel better if they can think that all our problems we have today were not around, or were less or different back in the day.

just my 2 cents  8)    

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: Hairspray on 01/21/03 at 02:26 p.m.


Quoting:
This was the same decade that gave us such high cultured art as RAMBO and THE A-TEAM.  And every other TV show had a loud styled MTV influence, and every other movie was about some South American drug lords trying to get their illegal cocaine shipment into America.End Quote



At least we didn't her the words b#tch and a$$ during their broadcast. Those words became perfectly acceptable in regular TV programming in the 1990's. Which baffles me to a degree because of the political correctness which also took effect in the 1990's and is quite contradictory.

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: Hairspray on 01/21/03 at 02:28 p.m.


Quoting:
the best time of my life were in the 80s.  I can honestly say I wish they had never ended, when compared to the 90s and 00s.  I fondly remember my parents not being worried about money and jobs back then, like they are now.  

And don't even get me started on the whole political correctness crap that took over the globe in the 90s.

So many things were new and exciting in the 80s in the field of electronics, fashions, music, movies, etc etc, whereas today they are mostly just cheap knockoffs.  

And someone earlier mentioned Reagan, well, I'm not saying he was a God or othr divine being sent to us from above by any means.  However, considering the 4 years of dispair and misery, aka The Carter Administration, we as a country endured, Reagan was a refreshing change for the better.End Quote



I agree with ya', man!  ;)

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: 80sRocked on 01/21/03 at 02:43 p.m.


Quoting:
...This was the same decade that gave us such high cultured art as RAMBO and THE A-TEAM.  End Quote



...as compared to the highly "intellectual programming" we are blessed with today like: Anna Nicole Show, Friends, Real World, Celebrity Boxing, and the list goes on and on and on and on...(I was being very very sarcastic)

Your argument holds no water.  Yes, there were some ridiculous things in the 80s, but name one decade that is exempt to that fact.

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: Amanda on 01/23/03 at 12:54 a.m.


Quoting:


...as compared to the highly "intellectual programming" we are blessed with today like: Anna Nicole Show, Friends, Real World, Celebrity Boxing, and the list goes on and on and on and on...(I was being very very sarcastic)

Your argument holds no water.  Yes, there were some ridiculous things in the 80s, but name one decade that is exempt to that fact.
End Quote




I agree with you about all of those shows EXCEPT Friends....I think Friends is really cute and funny.

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: The Skuz on 01/23/03 at 01:15 p.m.


Quoting:
But it sorta helped that I was but a wee lad and didn't have to worry about the world being blown to smithereenies by religious fundamentalists...sigh.
End Quote



Actually, those religious fundamentlaists gained a country as a power base in the late-1970's(Iran), which slowly replaced Soviet-backed so-called "Arab Socialism" as the main political force behind terrorism, as well as the threat of nuclear warfare in the Middle East.

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: Davester on 01/23/03 at 03:50 p.m.

Quoting:
I remember there was no violence, sex or drugs back in the 80s.  Everything was so peaceful and calm.  And back in the 80s, all the children and teenagers collectively worked for the good of mankind.  

Everyday was a new day back in the 80s, it was a challenge to improve yourself and make yourself a better human being.  Kids respected the adults back then, and behaved themselves and never used any bad language.  And back in the 80s we had a good conservative Republican president in Ronald Reagan, that had morals, decency, and Christian righteousness.

 
End Quote



  Folks, I think we've been had! ;)


Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: Wildcard (Guest) on 01/23/03 at 04:55 p.m.

I'll tell you what the saddest thing is on this entire message board..

It's the people who love to poke fun and pick arguments with others who have come here to share their own experiences. So what if they believed the 80's were a utopia - you didn't live beside them, how can you say it wasn't real? Can you? Or are you just sad and jealous because people are having a good time remembering what was real for them? Obviously they're not on their own, so if you've any nasty comments to make stick them where the sun doesn't shine..

In typical millennium fashion, people will come here and spoil it for others, with nothing more than reactionist claptrap. Just one of the many things that really p*sses you off about today's so-called 'society'. So much negativity, so much hatred, focusing on the bad instead of the good.

For 99.9% of the people left here who actually wish to share their memories - you know, this being an "80's" forum, good for you. Don't be put off.

The fact remains. Things were different then. Life was simpler. People did generally look forwards and not backwards and didn't pay the price for their vision.

Your memories are great and thanks for sharing them  ;)

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: Rice Cube on 01/23/03 at 04:58 p.m.

Thanks for your thoughts, Wildcard :)

I don't take offense to the negative comments on this thread, but your concerns are appreciated.

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: Alyssa Branen on 03/27/04 at 00:13 a.m.

Actually, it's kind of funny I agree AND disagree with some things. Life deffinatly was simpler back then..but was it because it was the 80's or because we were younger? I will admit that the 80's had the best cartoons and tv shows and toys and music. Yet about the sex and drugs..they were just as prominent. Degrassi Jr High dealt with ALOT of those issues. In fact..alot of 80's comedies were T&A flicks..I remember seeing a cheesy 80's horror flick(GOD they dont make them like they used to..LOL)that was rated PG and had a full on penis in it haha. Programming has deffinatly changed, but perhaps because it shows things that are more realistic..it's funny, people trash reality shows yet they can't stop watching them for some reason. It's a tough tough world out there and these things DO happen..we deffinatly have to monitor what are little ones are watching and the video games they are playing, but at the same time do you lie to them and say the world is perfect and that these things DON'T happen? Because in a world full of hate, they really do. We still have a long way to go as people..and we arn't going to be any better in forty years than we are now. Its sad because you think of the 50's when children played outside late at night in their neighbors yards, spent the night at a friends house that your parents didnt necesarrily know that well..yet you wouldn't dare do that today. Things seemed simpler in the 80's, yet compared to the 50's they were alot different..makes you wonder what its going to be like in twenty years.

I DO wish that they would make more quality family programming and such on regular tv..i mean besides the disney channel, you know?

What is sad to me as well is that the use of drugs is so casual..everywhere. I dont do them, I wont trash anyone that does..but it scares me that people are popping E and lighting up and sniffing and then guzzling massive quantaties of alcohol almost everynight and they dont think there is anything wrong with it, its just a normal occurance. I dunno, its frightening.

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: Tv on 03/27/04 at 08:29 p.m.


Quoting:
the best time of my life were in the 80s.  I can honestly say I wish they had never ended, when compared to the 90s and 00s.  I fondly remember my parents not being worried about money and jobs back then, like they are now.  

End Quote

Uh about worrying about jobs and money remember the .com boom of 1999-2000 when the economy was booming? What about the economic rescession of the late 70's/early 80's? The ecomony has good cycles and bad cycles. Right now we are not in too good of an economic cycle.

As far as looking back at the 80's and saying it was simpler there was no internet, or no cellphones back then.

I;m sure kids of the 00's will say in 2020 oh the 00's were much simpler than the 20's or whatever you want to call the deacde of 2020.

I simply do not like the 00's because number 1 every rap video has been the same exact for 5 years now. The reality show thing with the exception of "The Apprentice" should go away.

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: pennsygirl on 03/29/04 at 05:36 a.m.

I agree that it was simpler back then.  In the '80's I could actually sit down and watch a tv show with my parents without being so embarrassed or uncomfortable about subject matter that I wished the floor would open and swallow me up.  When people like Jerry Springer and his kind are permitted to parade out a show of freaks every day, where reality shows that try to outdo each other in how outrageous they can be and the so called "artists' of today's music glorify drugs, drinking, violence and degrading women, it's hard not to think the '80's were a simpler time.  I'm not trying to say the world didn't have problems back then, but I never remember worrying about terrorist attacks, wars and the things that young kids and teens face today.  I don't have children of my own, but many of my friends that do all say one common thing, they tell me that "it's not like it was when we were growing up".  And I have to agree with them.  Kids today face so much more in the way of taking the wrong path or just bad things that can happen to them, more so than we had to.

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: LyricBoy on 03/29/04 at 05:59 a.m.

Quoting:
I agree that it was simpler back then.  In the '80's I could actually sit down and watch a tv show with my parents without being so embarrassed or uncomfortable about subject matter that I wished the floor would open and swallow me up.  ....  I don't have children of my own, but many of my friends that do all say one common thing, they tell me that "it's not like it was when we were growing up".  End Quote



Well pennsygirl, its all relative, I guess.

I grew up in the 60's, but then when the 70's rolled around, I found that I could not actually sit down and watch a TV show with my parents without being embarrased because they started to hawk tampoons and disposable douches on TV.

And while people may look back at the simplicity and "innocence" of the 1980's, remember that it was the 1980's when AIDS took on a life of its own.

Interestingly now in the 2000's, people are claiming that "there is not enuf education out there about AIDS", TWENTY YEARS AFTER IT BROKE LOOSE.

This post is not meant to diss the 1980's.  Just to raise the issue that each decade has its share of problems.

Subject: Re: It was so much simpler then...

Written By: pennsygirl on 03/29/04 at 08:56 a.m.


Quoting:


Well pennsygirl, its all relative, I guess.

I grew up in the 60's, but then when the 70's rolled around, I found that I could not actually sit down and watch a TV show with my parents without being embarrased because they started to hawk tampoons and disposable douches on TV.

And while people may look back at the simplicity and "innocence" of the 1980's, remember that it was the 1980's when AIDS took on a life of its own.

Interestingly now in the 2000's, people are claiming that "there is not enuf education out there about AIDS", TWENTY YEARS AFTER IT BROKE LOOSE.

This post is not meant to diss the 1980's.  Just to raise the issue that each decade has its share of problems.
End Quote



I grew up in the '60's as well, and it was not my intention to say that the '80's was a decade with out it's share of problems and the world was not a wonderland back then, what I was trying to bring out is that I really believe that what kids encounter today growing up is alot more difficult than the problems we faced.  We had bad role models back then and sex, drugs and drinking were thrown in our face, but I think it's gotten worse now than it was back then.