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Subject: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: JETTA00 on 11/26/02 at 10:35 a.m.

Okay guys I heard about "Frankie Says Relax"  I bought a plain white shirt yesterday and had these words put on it.  I know it was a saying that they put on shirts in the 80's but I was just wondering if there was any meaning behind it or if it's just a shirt that defines the 80's (RELAX)  Anyone know what FRANKIE SAYS RELAX means??

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: cs on 11/26/02 at 10:38 a.m.

I thought it meant - relax! Don't leave your partner hanging - if you know what I mean...maybe someone else should anser this...

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: the_OlLine_Rebel on 11/26/02 at 12:43 a.m.

I never knew of any special meaning, other than the song.  And I believe the "correct" (ahem) wording was "Frankie SAY Relax".  I.e., write it grammatically incorrectly w/o the "S".

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: IG-88 on 11/26/02 at 01:42 p.m.


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Okay guys I heard about "Frankie Says Relax"  I bought a plain white shirt yesterday and had these words put on it.  I know it was a saying that they put on shirts in the 80's but I was just wondering if there was any meaning behind it or if it's just a shirt that defines the 80's (RELAX)  Anyone know what FRANKIE SAYS RELAX means??
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I believe the song was a warning to the homosexual community about being careful about sex, because of the new AIDS crisis during the early-mid 80's.  "Relax, don't do it, when you want to come."  

I don't mean to be vulgar, but when he's talking about coming, he's talking about coming.  If you know what I mean.

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: Katrina on 11/26/02 at 02:24 p.m.

I always thought that it was just a reference to the song "Relax", by "Frankie Goes To Hollywood".

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: John_Seminal on 11/26/02 at 04:18 p.m.


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Okay guys I heard about "Frankie Says Relax"  I bought a plain white shirt yesterday and had these words put on it.  I know it was a saying that they put on shirts in the 80's but I was just wondering if there was any meaning behind it or if it's just a shirt that defines the 80's (RELAX)  Anyone know what FRANKIE SAYS RELAX means??
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Yup, there is a hidden meaning, and it would be vulgar to reveal it here. Pretty much it is about waiting just a bit longer til ya... well, you know.  ;)

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: JETTA00 on 11/26/02 at 06:00 p.m.

oh geez i had no idea it meant that, maybe i should not have  made the shirt...ahh who cares, no one is going to know what it means anyway and i don't care even if they do!

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: John_Seminal on 11/26/02 at 07:45 p.m.


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oh geez i had no idea it meant that, maybe i should not have  made the shirt...ahh who cares, no one is going to know what it means anyway and i don't care even if they do!
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It could be sexy. Like the playboy bunny shirts. But you are right, there will be those who will not know the hidden meaning. Plus, I think the lead singer of the group was gay, so it could have had an even more hidden meaning. I don't want to think about that.

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: Hairspray on 11/26/02 at 07:52 p.m.


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Was? Did he die? Just curious.

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: southernspitfire on 11/26/02 at 09:41 p.m.


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Was? Did he die? Just curious.
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Unless he just passed recently....Holly Johnson is alive and doing well considering his HIV status

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 11/27/02 at 03:20 a.m.

In fact a certain someone requested that very song on Renegade Retro last weekend as I recall !

Good request  ;)

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: cs on 11/27/02 at 06:58 a.m.


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Unless he just passed recently....Holly Johnson is alive and doing well considering his HIV status
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Odd...I thought the frontman dies a few years ago.

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: the_OlLine_Rebel on 11/27/02 at 08:01 a.m.


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oh geez i had no idea it meant that, maybe i should not have  made the shirt...ahh who cares, no one is going to know what it means anyway and i don't care even if they do!
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I was aware it's a sick song.  ::)  Though I'm grateful even as a teenager I didn't really pay attention to them that well - and I think I was more naive anyway about all these terminologies.   ::)

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: Criz on 11/27/02 at 10:47 a.m.


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I never knew of any special meaning, other than the song.  And I believe the "correct" (ahem) wording was "Frankie SAY Relax".  I.e., write it grammatically incorrectly w/o the "S".
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Always wanted to know why it was written 'Say' and not 'Says'. Does anyone know?

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: JETTA00 on 11/27/02 at 10:53 a.m.

hey Criz...i always thought it was SAYS but then I found out that it's SAY- but that's after I had the shirt made!!  A little annoying but it's okay.  Yeah so does anyone know why it's SAY and not SAYS? ??? ???

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: the_OlLine_Rebel on 11/27/02 at 11:21 a.m.

Because it's hip to speak/write badly?  Think about it.

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: the_OlLine_Rebel on 11/27/02 at 11:23 a.m.


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i always thought it was SAYS but then I found out that it's SAY- but that's after I had the shirt made!!  A little annoying but it's okay.
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You can just paint over it w/white - I'm sure there's a way!

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: mrgazpacho on 11/28/02 at 08:04 p.m.

Remember that the band's name is "Frankie Goes To Hollywood". If you then shorten that to "Frankie", but consider them to be several members, I'm sure you can figure out why "Frankie SAY" is correct.

e.g. "Pearl Jam SAY their new look is in no way related to a particularly nasty flea plague".

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: JETTA00 on 11/29/02 at 08:12 p.m.

Gotcha mrgazpacho, duh why didn't i think of that in the first place?? ???

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: Goreripper on 11/30/02 at 11:02 a.m.


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Remember that the band's name is "Frankie Goes To Hollywood". If you then shorten that to "Frankie", but consider them to be several members, I'm sure you can figure out why "Frankie SAY" is correct.

e.g. "Pearl Jam SAY their new look is in no way related to a particularly nasty flea plague".
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It's actually grammatically INCORRECT. Pearl Jam (and Frankie Goes to Hollywood, for that matter) is a proper noun, so grammar actually treats it the same as it would any other name like "Michael" or "Charlie". Therefore, it should be "Pearl Jam SAYS ITS new look..." OR "The members of Pearl Jam SAY THEIR new look..." Of course it sounds a bit strange, which is why we tend to say "Pearl Jam ARE touring", when it should really be "Pearl Jam IS touring".

;D

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: JETTA00 on 11/30/02 at 12:08 a.m.

hey you know you're right Goreripper- what's the meaning behind your name??

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: Goreripper on 12/01/02 at 06:19 a.m.


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hey you know you're right Goreripper- what's the meaning behind your name??
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It came from something I wrote in the guest book of a friend's website, something about having her join me as I waded through the gore of the false. It was an allusion to my contempt for liars, frauds and hypocrites - that I would rip their gore if I had the chance.  ;D

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: JETTA00 on 12/01/02 at 08:33 a.m.

GOTCHA! ;)

Subject: Re: FRANKIE SAYS RELAX

Written By: mrgazpacho on 12/01/02 at 08:35 a.m.


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Pearl Jam (and Frankie Goes to Hollywood, for that matter) is a proper noun, so grammar actually treats it the same as it would any other name
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That's why I added the consideration for the separate members of the band to exist as a collaboration, rather than totally subsuming themselves into the collective (whoops I'm going Borg here :D )

If there's a band whose members I never think of individually outside the band, I *do* use the singular. But bands where the individual members appear more equal than others (LOL) I just consider the band name as shorthand for each of them.

I notice this especially with duos - possibly because it's easier to distinguish between two people than four or more. e.g on alt.music.tmbg, we often refer to "They Might Be Giants" as "John and John". Although it's handy that "They Might Be Giants" also shortens to "They"  ;D