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Subject: Define Rock, r and b, pop, alternative, metal,etc

Written By: randbfan23 on 05/22/02 at 02:24 a.m.

It could be the kind songs of they are, how soft some of their songs are, if it the songs would be considered pop, or if the songs are mild, and there is some rock or punk in it is it considered alternative, or is it possible to either define a category, or categorize a certain music, if you don't even know how to define it in the first place. And why not call an album or a group if they have a variety of every category, call it miscellaneous, or start a category called that.

Subject: Re: Define Rock, r and b, pop, alternative, metal,

Written By: Rapture on 05/22/02 at 06:36 a.m.

LOL! I knew a thread like this was a matter of time. :P

I think we have a few DJ's here that I bet could explain the differences best. ;)

Subject: Re: Define Rock, r and b, pop, alternative, metal,

Written By: Tarzan Boy (Guest) on 05/22/02 at 04:29 p.m.

Hey, just as long as you don't put The Go-Gos, Marshall Crenshaw, The Cars, Nik Kershaw (mind you, I love these artists), and other such pop acts as New Wave, you'll be fine when it comes to 80s music.

Tarzan Boy

Subject: Re: Define Rock, r and b, pop, alternative, metal,

Written By: OlDsKoOl_fAiRy on 05/22/02 at 04:38 p.m.

http://sassy_elj.homestead.com/files/tinyglitter.gifWell, r & b stands for rythem and blues, and the music varies from more rythem to slow ballads. Rkelly sings r&b, don't know if you've ever heard of him.

Subject: Re: Define Rock, r and b, pop, alternative, metal,

Written By: Numnum on 07/12/03 at 03:04 p.m.

I don't know why but for some reason everything has to be defined into smaller and smaller categories.  Personally though I would be quite happy with music in Artist Alphabetical Order (AAO) rather than trying to put it into these categories!!! Especially since a lot of groups I don't think can be defined!!!

Numnum

Subject: Re: Define Rock, r and b, pop, alternative, metal,

Written By: Alice on 07/12/03 at 03:47 p.m.

Genres are so limitating.Especially now when "all" music is more or less so mixed up.I think it's totally useless talking about genres today.

Subject: Re: Define Rock, r and b, pop, alternative, metal,

Written By: Hoeveel on 07/12/03 at 06:09 p.m.


Quoting:
http://sassy_elj.homestead.com/files/tinyglitter.gifWell, r & b stands for rythem and blues, and the music varies from more rythem to slow ballads. Rkelly sings r&b, don't know if you've ever heard of him.
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I dunno. R&B today doesn't resemble the original genre, which actually had Blues influences and was one of the contributing factors to Rock'n'Roll. Personally, i have a different explanation for what R&B stands for today which is much less flattering ;)

Subject: Re: Define Rock, r and b, pop, alternative, metal,

Written By: Absolutely_Vile on 07/13/03 at 01:54 a.m.

"Pop" is short for "popular". If a type of music is popular (which most of it is), then it's all pop music. No matter how hard or soft it is, it's pop music. (Country and classical obviously don't fit in here because they're quite distinctively different.)

Absolutely Vile

Subject: Re: Define Rock, r and b, pop, alternative, metal,

Written By: Bobby on 07/13/03 at 05:20 a.m.

I remember having a conversation with someone about this exact subject on the thread 'Pop music Sux'. I think it's a few sections back but if you want to read about this topic, take a look.

Subject: Re: Define Rock, r and b, pop, alternative, metal,

Written By: Hoeveel on 07/13/03 at 03:17 p.m.


Quoting:
"Pop" is short for "popular". If a type of music is popular (which most of it is), then it's all pop music. No matter how hard or soft it is, it's pop music. (Country and classical obviously don't fit in here because they're quite distinctively different.)
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All though, to be fair, there is a lot of music that you can't really categorise any other way like boy- and girl-bands and acts like Britney Spears. I spose you could just group it all as 'manufactured' :-/

Subject: Re: Define Rock, r and b, pop, alternative, metal,

Written By: Goreripper on 07/13/03 at 07:32 p.m.


Quoting:
I remember having a conversation with someone about this exact subject on the thread 'Pop music Sux'. I think it's a few sections back but if you want to read about this topic, take a look.
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It's here:

http://www.inthe00s.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=inthe00s&action=display&num=1038767945

Subject: Re: Define Rock, r and b, pop, alternative, metal,

Written By: Bobby on 07/14/03 at 04:03 p.m.

LOL! Thanks Goreripper!  :D

Yes. I think section 2 on the thread is where we kick off the 'genre' thing and a few other bits and bobs.  :)

Subject: Re: Define Rock, r and b, pop, alternative, metal,

Written By: Goreripper on 07/14/03 at 05:38 p.m.

Yep, that's right. It's actually rather difficult to define some of this, because a lot of it depends on point of view. A lot of the stuff some refer to as metal these days would not have been called that even five years ago; when grunge first hit, some people were calling that metal. Grunge wasn't really a musical style at all, just a convenient name. Nirvana and Pearl Jam were punk bands, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were metal bands and bands like Screaming Trees and the Fastbacks were rock. Some bands blur the boundaries. Sum 41 are called punk, but some of their songs sound almost like Iron Maiden, who are about as metal as can be. Rock music is so fragmented it's getting hard to say what belongs where. General rule: if you think some band fits in some category, they probably do, though not everyone will agree.  :)  

Subject: Re: Define Rock, r and b, pop, alternative, metal,

Written By: Hoeveel on 07/14/03 at 05:45 p.m.

Huy, be careful how you throw around the word 'punk', that's me culture yer talking about, to be sure.  ::) :P :-X

Subject: Re: Define Rock, r and b, pop, alternative, metal,

Written By: Goreripper on 07/14/03 at 06:30 p.m.

Quoting:
Huy, be careful how you throw around the word 'punk', that's me culture yer talking about, to be sure.  ::) :P :-X
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As I said, not everyone will agree. When I was enmeshed within the punk culture in 1989, many of those around me were saying that 'Bleach' was one of the best punk records ever. Others didn't agree, but the word 'grunge' wasn't in popular use then, so it had to be called something. 'Punk' is another word thrown around as a catchall for anything that doesn't seem to fit anywhere else; however, some of us really do know what it means.  ;)

Subject: Re: Define Rock, r and b, pop, alternative, metal,

Written By: Hoeveel on 07/14/03 at 06:39 p.m.

Heh. I'm only messing about.  :)

Subject: Re: Define Rock, r and b, pop, alternative, metal,

Written By: Goreripper on 07/14/03 at 06:51 p.m.


Quoting:
Heh. I'm only messing about.  :)
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I know.  ;) But the point had to be made.  :)