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Subject: The Human League/Animotion

Written By: Anonymous on 01/13/02 at 09:04 p.m.

I think Animotion was a ripoff of The Human League. I'm not saying they weren't good; "Obsession" is a VERY good song. I just think they were a ripoff of the much-better Human League.

Subject: Re: The Human League/Animotion

Written By: Numnum on 07/10/03 at 12:47 a.m.


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I think Animotion was a ripoff of The Human League. I'm not saying they weren't good; "Obsession" is a VERY good song. I just think they were a ripoff of the much-better Human League.
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I thought a lot of groups from the eighties were a ripoff of the Human League.
The difference with Human League and Animotion is that Animotion had only one song!

Numnum

Subject: Re: The Human League/Animotion

Written By: Absolutely_Vile on 07/10/03 at 01:47 p.m.


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I thought a lot of groups from the eighties were a ripoff of the Human League.
The difference with Human League and Animotion is that Animotion had only one song!

Numnum
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Actually, I always thought groups that were very synth-driven in the 80's (Human League, Depeche Mode, Animotion, etc.) were a rip-off of Kraftwerk, who have been doing it since the 70's. A lot, if not all of those bands owe a lot to Kraftwerk for bringing synthpop to the forefront! :D

Absolutely Vile

Subject: Re: The Human League/Animotion

Written By: Bobby on 07/10/03 at 03:33 p.m.

Kraftwerk started it off but only had a British hit in 1981 with "The Model".

Animotion were allright, song was ho-hum, video was rubbish.  :D

Subject: Re: The Human League/Animotion

Written By: Absolutely_Vile on 07/12/03 at 11:53 a.m.

I think Kraftwerk had a hit here with "Trans-Europe Express" which was back in......1977 or something like that. (Well, the song came out in '77, I believe. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.) It was sampled by rap/hip hop artists quite a bit in the 80's.

"The Model" was a hit there in 1981? Isn't it a few years older than that? I have it on a 1978 Kraftwerk LP called Man-Machine.

Absolutely Vile

Subject: Re: The Human League/Animotion

Written By: Bobby on 07/12/03 at 12:07 a.m.


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"The Model" was a hit there in 1981? Isn't it a few years older than that? I have it on a 1978 Kraftwerk LP called Man-Machine.
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Yeah I remember someone having it on an album myself. Must have been re-released. I have to correct myself though - It was a hit in 1982, not 1981.

Subject: Re: The Human League/Animotion

Written By: Numnum on 07/12/03 at 02:20 p.m.

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Actually, I always thought groups that were very synth-driven in the 80's (Human League, Depeche Mode, Animotion, etc.) were a rip-off of Kraftwerk, who have been doing it since the 70's. A lot, if not all of those bands owe a lot to Kraftwerk for bringing synthpop to the forefront! :D

Absolutely Vile
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Kraftwerk were one of the first, but what about groups who used synths back then too.  

The Stranglers
Queen
Yello
Gary Numan

These are just some of the people who started to use them back then!!! Don't they count as an influence?  ???

Numnum 8)

Subject: Re: The Human League/Animotion

Written By: Bobby on 07/13/03 at 04:15 a.m.

Didn't Yello have hits in 1985 (Oh Yeah! - Soundtrack for Ferris Beuller) and 1988 (The Race)?

I wouldn't call them an influence if they created their music after Kraftwerk.

I will agree with Gary Numan though. 'Cars' was an anthem to reckon with in the synth era.  :)

Subject: Re: The Human League/Animotion

Written By: Paul_UK on 07/13/03 at 09:27 a.m.


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"The Model" was a hit there in 1981? Isn't it a few years older than that? I have it on a 1978 Kraftwerk LP called Man-Machine.

Absolutely Vile
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Yes, Absolutely Vile, it charted as a re-issue...the originally intended plug side was to have been "Computer Love" from the 1981 album "Computer World" - but "The Model" (from 1978's "Man Machine" album) started getting the club play and then radio play...

They certainly are the grandaddies of the "Electro-Krautrock" movement - a helluva lot of bands do (and should!) cite them as an influence...they started all this off over 30 years ago!

Subject: Re: The Human League/Animotion

Written By: Numnum on 07/13/03 at 11:57 a.m.


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Didn't Yello have hits in 1985 (Oh Yeah! - Soundtrack for Ferris Beuller) and 1988 (The Race)?

I wouldn't call them an influence if they created their music after Kraftwerk.

I will agree with Gary Numan though. 'Cars' was an anthem to reckon with in the synth era.  :)
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Carl Cox, Westbam, Jam & Spoon, The Orb and The Grid (Dave Ball from Soft Cell) all have said to be influenced by Yello.

Yello are big all over Europe, maybe not so much in the UK, US, and Canada!!!
But their music can be heard in films, tv series and adverts. And no not just "Oh Yeah!"

Numnum

Subject: Re: The Human League/Animotion

Written By: Numnum on 07/13/03 at 12:39 a.m.


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I wouldn't call them an influence if they created their music after Kraftwerk.
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But if Yello cannot be called an influence because they created music after Kraftwerk, what about Tangerine Dream, Vangelis, etc who started before Kraftwerk.

Tangerine Dream especially were an influence for Kraftwerk.

Numnum

So was it Tangerine Dream who really started the Electronic Revolution?

Subject: Re: The Human League/Animotion

Written By: Paul_UK on 07/13/03 at 04:55 p.m.

An excellent observation, Numnum - but whereas Kraftwerk were occupied with adventures in electronic rhythm, TD were the more avant garde style..not to say they didn't carry their influences...they and others like Can and Faust would eventually show the way for the bundle of fun known as "Industrialist" music - championed by the likes of Throbbing Gristle...

Vangelis was a more of a thematic style of artist/composer - bordering on progressive...he was approached by Jon Anderson in 1974 to replace Rick Wakeman when he decided to leave Yes - but eventually declined the offer...both he and Anderson would, of course, work together later with great success...

Anyway - I seem to be veering dangerously off topic here...so I'll get back to the HL...visual-wise Phil Oakey has always mentioned the deadpan look, style and delivery of one man as a big influence to him - that was Ron Mael of the very underrated Sparks - great band!