I think 1980 was the last cultural year of the 70s because 1981 seemed like a mix of 70s and 80s.

By 1982 it was a certainly a different cultural era. The change must have of occurred in the year 1981.

By 1982, certain 70's/boomer influences could still be felt but we were clearly in the 80's.

By 1984, the 70's were a long distant dead memory.

By 1982, certain 70's/boomer influences could still be felt but we were clearly in the 80's.

By 1984, the 70's were a long distant dead memory.


I agree with you 100%.

Jordan's pretty right. I think it's debatable whether late 1979 through 1981 were more 70s or 80s, but 1982 was more or less the point the 80s had fully established themselves apart from the late 70s.

Jordan's pretty right. I think it's debatable whether late 1979 through 1981 were more 70s or 80s, but 1982 was more or less the point the 80s had fully established themselves apart from the late 70s.


I also agree with you 100%

1981.

1980 was the last cultural year of the 70s. I have stated in another thread that there was no definitive event or events that  ended the cultural 60s. They just petered out by the end of 1972. There were two defining events however, that rang in the cultural 80s loud and clear, and both took place at the end of 1980. The assassination of John Lennon and the election of Ronald Reagan as president. The liberalness, the openness, the "spaciness" (and I use the term in a good way), if you will, of the 70s seemed to vanish overnight. Everything suddenly seemed very taut and conservative. The advent of the rigidly formatted and visually oriented MTV in August 1981 was the last nail in the coffin of the 70s. 

By 1982 it was a certainly a different cultural era. The change must have of occurred in the year 1981.



What change was that? ???

1981. Last year where 70's trends (funk, disco, prog rock, soul etc.) are still popular and are still successful enough to counter the incoming 80's culture.

If you were to pick an exact date to mark the end of the cultural 70s, these would be good candidates (I pick #2);

1. January 20, 1981: Reagan's inauguration

2. August 1, 1981: MTV launch

3. April 2, 1982: Start of the Falklands War

4. June 11, 1982: Release date of "E.T. The Extra Terrestrial"

5. November 30, 1982: Release date of Michael Jackson's legendary "Thriller" album.

6. March 25, 1983: Michael Jackson performs moonwalk on Motown 25.

1981. Last full year where 70's trends (funk, disco, prog rock, soul etc.) are still popular and are still successful enough to counter the incoming 80's culture.

If you were to pick an exact date to mark the end of the cultural 70s, these would be good candidates (I pick #2);

1. January 20, 1981: Reagan's inauguration

2. August 1, 1981: MTV launch

3. April 2, 1982: Start of the Falklands War

4. June 11, 1982: Release date of "E.T. The Extra Terrestrial"

5. November 30, 1982: Release date of Michael Jackson's legendary "Thriller" album.

6. March 25, 1983: Michael Jackson performs moonwalk on Motown 25.

I agree with you 100%.

Don't forget about the first AIDS clinic opening up in late '82. AIDS killed any remaining vestige of the sexual revolution dead in it's tracks. Another thing that makes 1982 even more distant from the 70's.

and nobody got AIDS in the late 70's during the porn years till it started to affect a lot of actors and actresses in the 80's.
Before you continue, please read on the history of HIV/AIDS, the condition of AIDS was around during the 1950s.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_HIV/AIDS

Before you continue, please read on the history of HIV/AIDS, the condition of AIDS was around during the 1950s.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_HIV/AIDS


thanks for that.  :)

1981. Last year where 70's trends (funk, disco, prog rock, soul etc.) are still popular and are still successful enough to counter the incoming 80's culture.

If you were to pick an exact date to mark the end of the cultural 70s, these would be good candidates (I pick #2);

1. January 20, 1981: Reagan's inauguration

2. August 1, 1981: MTV launch

3. April 2, 1982: Start of the Falklands War

4. June 11, 1982: Release date of "E.T. The Extra Terrestrial"

5. November 30, 1982: Release date of Michael Jackson's legendary "Thriller" album.

6. March 25, 1983: Michael Jackson performs moonwalk on Motown 25.


You forgot one more date

December 8, 1980 - John Lennon's Assassination

You forgot one more date

December 8, 1980 - John Lennon's Assassination

Yeah but even with Lennon's assassination....1980 was virtually indistinguishable from 1979.

Probably would say the 1980-81 school year.

A lot of fashion trends from the '70s certainly hung on a bit through the end of 1982. Otherwise, by most metrics it seems like late 1981 and certainly 1982 were the points where we were starting to readily separate both culturally and aesthetically from the previous decade.

1981 also had the release of the first IBM PC, which really helped to revolutionize the cultural understanding of computer technology and helped lead to the relatively rapid break-away from the '70s aesthetic.

You forgot one more date

December 8, 1980 - John Lennon's Assassination


that had an impact on the world.

Yeah but even with Lennon's assassination....1980 was virtually indistinguishable from 1979.

I agree 100%. Was in college when Lennon was killed. Even thought it was 1980, as you just said it was virtually indistinguishable from 1979.
There wasn't much difference between 1979 and 1980, but there was when comparing 1981 to 1982. By 1982, 1979 seemed far away. It was the start of the real 80s

I agree 100%. Was in college when Lennon was killed. Even thought it was 1980, as you just said it was virtually indistinguishable from 1979.
There wasn't much difference between 1979 and 1980, but there was when comparing 1981 to 1982. By 1982, 1979 seemed far away. It was the start of the real 80s

Thanks and I agree with you as well.