Today an older friend of mine told me (born in 1954) he's seen it several thousand times since its release in the 70's  ;D

Do you think it influenced later cult-classic movies like Princess Bride and Snakes on a Plane?

RHPS was basically a fluke. When it first came out, it was a totally flop. It wasn't meant to be an audience participation film. However, something happened a long the way. The audience started getting involved in the film-showing up in costumes, acting out parts, getting up and dancing, etc. It wasn't a passive experience. Instead of just having the movie entertain you, the audience was also entertaining you or YOU yourself were doing the entertainment. With that, it made each time going to see it VERY different which is why you hear people saying that they went to see it hundreds, sometimes thousands of times. Unlike when you went to see a "normal" movie-the experience was always the same. I LOVE RHPS but it just loses something when I watch it at home. You NEED the audience to really make it.

I don't recall any other movie, cult classic or not, having the audience basically part of experience. So to answer your question, No, I don't think it really influenced the later films.



Cat

I don't recall any other movie, cult classic or not, having the audience basically part of experience. So to answer your question, No, I don't think it really influenced the later films.


Cat


I have to agree. It is an unique experience-I have friends who have only watched the dvd and couldn't understand the raving over why it is so fun. It is the participation that makes it fun. Unless you have gathered a bunch of RHPS freaks in your living room to reenact it, you won't understand (and that still won't work, I don't recommend RHPS in your living room or anywhere outside of a theater).

As to the general question of influences for cult classic in general, Cult classic films become 'cult classic' because each and every one has it's own special mojo that made it so. There is no formula to cookie cut films to 'make' them cult classics beforehand by borrowing from previous films, they are happy accidents.  :)

BTW, love all three of these films mentioned.  ;D

My guess is the RHPS influence is in LGBT kitsch rather than other cult movies.  I mean, it wasn't a particularly "gay" thing to go see RHPS any more than going to see David Bowie was a "gay" thing.  Gay theater, however, was Rocky Horr's origins and its legacy.

I saw it when I was 15 at the drive in theatre (geez ... they used to be fun  :-[) It was showing on a double feature with 'Phantom of the Paradise. They went pretty well together.I immediately loved the music and went again the next night. The same week I went out and bought the album. There was no audience participation at that point. That started more around the late 70's after the film had been playing it certain smaller theatres around here for more than 2 years.

Strangely, It was not a 'gay' following at all (in Brisbane at least). I saw the film many times with various friends, girlfriends etc over the following years. I agree that it doesn't work at all on the small screen ... and like a true prude ... I rather my teenagers didn't see it! :-\\. I used to sing out the words loudly while taking a shower. I don't know what my parents must have thought hearing their son singing " I'm just a sweet transvestite " (in my sexiest Tim Curry inflected voice).  ;D They must have been worried at the time...

I also agree that I can't see an influence on other films that followed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwUjJXxoGy4

Strangely, It was not a 'gay' following at all (in Brisbane at least).

I also agree that I can't see an influence on other films that followed.


It wasn't a 'gay' following in Canada either, and I don't think it was much of an influence on other films. A very unique type of film. Either you never saw it, or saw it (and participated) many times. I tried to watch it once. Not very interesting to me. I don't even think I saw the whole thing.

I saw it when I was 15 at the drive in theatre (geez ... they used to be fun  :-[) It was showing on a double feature with 'Phantom of the Paradise. They went pretty well together.I immediately loved the music and went again the next night. The same week I went out and bought the album. There was no audience participation at that point. That started more around the late 70's after the film had been playing it certain smaller theatres around here for more than 2 years.

Strangely, It was not a 'gay' following at all (in Brisbane at least). I saw the film many times with various friends, girlfriends etc over the following years. I agree that it doesn't work at all on the small screen ... and like a true prude ... I rather my teenagers didn't see it! :-\\. I used to sing out the words loudly while taking a shower. I don't know what my parents must have thought hearing their son singing " I'm just a sweet transvestite " (in my sexiest Tim Curry inflected voice).  ;D They must have been worried at the time...

I also agree that I can't see an influence on other films that followed.



My parents were as prudish as you are. Whenever I went to see it as a teen, I would see it when I was spending the night at a friend's house. One time, the stage show was coming locally and I so wanted to see it but my parents wouldn't let me.  >:( >:( >:(  They thought because of the audience participation, it would get out of hand. Oy vey! What a couple of fuddy duddies.



Cat

So this film was more of a comedy horror? ???

So this film was more of a comedy horror? ???


It's more of a musical, it's not a horror for sure.

It's more of a musical, it's not a horror for sure.



Well...


What's for dinner?


MEATLOAF!!!!!



Cat

My parents were as prudish as you are. Whenever I went to see it as a teen, I would see it when I was spending the night at a friend's house. One time, the stage show was coming locally and I so wanted to see it but my parents wouldn't let me.  >:( >:( >:(  They thought because of the audience participation, it would get out of hand. Oy vey! What a couple of fuddy duddies.



Cat


My church youth group went to see it...


It was a Unitarian youth group, of course, and going to see the midnight screening of RHPS was one of our activities!
8)

Well...
What's for dinner?
MEATLOAF!!!!!


"What's the matter, Columbia? You always swallowed when you ate him!"

It's more of a musical, it's not a horror for sure.


Aren't they reviving the musical?  ???

Aren't they reviving the musical?  ???



It is preformed somewhere at any time-either the stage production or the movie (at midnight of course). Our local college put it on a few years back. The theatre was PACKED!!!!



Cat

I might go see it at the theatre near here soon. Still a 'virgin' as they say.  ;)

Does anybody think Tim Curry could do a Frank N.Furter now at his age of 66? ???

Does anybody think Tim Curry could do a Frank N.Furter now at his age of 66? ???


Yes!
8)

I might go see it at the theatre near here soon. Still a 'virgin' as they say.  ;)


You need to do this.  The power of the googles and the widespread availability of audience participation recordings makes it a lot easier to know what to expect.  My first time was... still funny as all hell, but the first half hour was pretty awkward until I got the joke.

One thing to keep in mind:  most of the memes the crowd spouts out were spread by word of mouth and by typewritten/photocopied transcripts, before the Internet, and before most electronic forms of communication even existed.  If anything seems lame and dated, be amazed that it took off at all.  It's comparatively easy to make something go viral these days - in the 80s, this was pretty much unprecedented.

Rocky Horror fans wreck screenings of Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
::)

You need to do this.  The power of the googles and the widespread availability of audience participation recordings makes it a lot easier to know what to expect.  My first time was... still funny as all hell, but the first half hour was pretty awkward until I got the joke.

One thing to keep in mind:  most of the memes the crowd spouts out were spread by word of mouth and by typewritten/photocopied transcripts, before the Internet, and before most electronic forms of communication even existed.  If anything seems lame and dated, be amazed that it took off at all.  It's comparatively easy to make something go viral these days - in the 80s, this was pretty much unprecedented.



I have seen it is different areas of the country and each place has their own way. One time, I saw it in San Antonio, TX at the theatre that just recently started to show it. This was the mid-80s. I am from NY State and I was with a friend who was from PA. I can't remember what was going on or what the audience was doing. Some guy who was sitting in front of us, turned and asked, "Are they doing it right?" We both said, "No." But, at least they were trying.



Cat

I have seen it is different areas of the country and each place has their own way. One time, I saw it in San Antonio, TX at the theatre that just recently started to show it. This was the mid-80s. I am from NY State and I was with a friend who was from PA. I can't remember what was going on or what the audience was doing. Some guy who was sitting in front of us, turned and asked, "Are they doing it right?" We both said, "No." But, at least they were trying.

Cat


It's really awesome that in the age where everyone clicks on the first thing that Google returns, and/or grabs a copy of "the" audience participation album from 1983, that there are still regional differences from cast to cast and theater to theater.  Even after you've seen it a few times, it's always fun to hear new lines coming from out of nowhere.  Doubly so if only two or three people are saying them; sometimes those are the funniest ones of all.

It's really awesome that in the age where everyone clicks on the first thing that Google returns, and/or grabs a copy of "the" audience participation album from 1983, that there are still regional differences from cast to cast and theater to theater.  Even after you've seen it a few times, it's always fun to hear new lines coming from out of nowhere.  Doubly so if only two or three people are saying them; sometimes those are the funniest ones of all.



Very true. We saw the stage show at our local college (where Carlos retired from). I can't remember the line but someone yelled it out that I never heard before and it was so funny.


One thing I can't get straight is the back row. When I first went, it was "Yay Back Row" but then it turned in to "F**k Back Row." I guess it depends on where.  :-\\



Cat

It's really awesome that in the age where everyone clicks on the first thing that Google returns, and/or grabs a copy of "the" audience participation album from 1983, that there are still regional differences from cast to cast and theater to theater.  Even after you've seen it a few times, it's always fun to hear new lines coming from out of nowhere.  Doubly so if only two or three people are saying them; sometimes those are the funniest ones of all.


That's why they record the soundtrack in Doubly.
;)

It's really awesome that in the age where everyone clicks on the first thing that Google returns, and/or grabs a copy of "the" audience participation album from 1983, that there are still regional differences from cast to cast and theater to theater.  Even after you've seen it a few times, it's always fun to hear new lines coming from out of nowhere.  Doubly so if only two or three people are saying them; sometimes those are the funniest ones of all.


I wonder if eventually it will all be done the exact same way. :(

One thing I can't get straight is the back row. When I first went, it was "Yay Back Row" but then it turned in to "F**k Back Row." I guess it depends on where.  :-\\



Cat


In theaters around here the back row was an argument of the seating halves. F***k the back row, you f**k the
back row, then the whole theater says, we'll all f**k the back row, gang bang the back row.

the same line is repeated for Sue Blane. Once when her name appears on the screen, the other is when Frank
sings,"But maybe the rain is not really the blame." crowd "No Sue's the blame...

In theaters around here the back row was an argument of the seating halves. F***k the back row, you f**k the
back row, then the whole theater says, we'll all f**k the back row, gang bang the back row.


Where I'm from, that battle gets fought, and usually concludes with the back row accepting the rest of the theater's offer via a hearty "YEAH BACK ROW!

When are they gonna make the Bukkake Horror Picture Show?
???

When are they gonna make the Bukkake Horror Picture Show?
???


I don't know!

http://blog.nj.com/entertainment_impact_celebrities/2008/03/large_kids9.jpg

But I do know that you can't do that in a movie theater!

When are they gonna make the Bukkake Horror Picture Show?
???


Who will star in it?  ???

"Susan Sarandon, Tim Curry reunite with Rocky Horror Picture Show cast for film’s 40th anniversary"

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/movies/susan-sarandon-tim-curry-reunite-with-rocky-horror-picture-show-cast-for-films-40th-anniversary/news-story/2107a1925649f4e9ed4c17ed943c9592

"'Rocky Horror Picture Show': 5 Things We Learned"

Last night, something hideously unnatural and eminently appropriate for the Halloween season took place on Fox: Executives exhumed a 40-year-old cult classic and reanimated it with Frankensteinian mad-scientist abandon.

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/rocky-horror-picture-show-5-things-we-learned-w445736

Why would it have inspired The Princess Bride??    Different genres.  RHPS is one of those things you have to be in the mood for.