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Subject: The 2020 Transformation Was Insane

Written By: Slim95 on 09/15/22 at 9:13 pm

It literally felt like everything changed overnight. This year felt like a decade packed into 12 months. I knew we were in a shift while it was going on, but looking back it is even more apparent how changeful the year 2020 was.

Subject: Re: The 2020 Transformation Was Insane

Written By: J. Rob on 09/15/22 at 9:52 pm

A truly awful year. I still don't understand how some people didn't feel the transition by the end of August

Subject: Re: The 2020 Transformation Was Insane

Written By: Slim95 on 09/15/22 at 11:22 pm


A truly awful year. I still don't understand how some people didn't feel the transition by the end of August

I felt it right when the pandemic hit to be honest.

Subject: Re: The 2020 Transformation Was Insane

Written By: Howard on 09/16/22 at 3:26 am


It literally felt like everything changed overnight. This year felt like a decade packed into 12 months. I knew we were in a shift while it was going on, but looking back it is even more apparent how changeful the year 2020 was.

I think this year was pretty insane with everything going on around the world and other events too. :o

Subject: Re: The 2020 Transformation Was Insane

Written By: LyricBoy on 09/16/22 at 5:22 am

‘Transformation”? Really?

Unless somebody is turning water into wine, or pulling a rabbit out of a top hat, the use of the “transformation” buzz word is tired, worn out, meaningless.

Just last week I had a salesman trying to convince me that his method for repainting old rusty steel truck wheels was “transformational”. Sheesh.  ::)

Subject: Re: The 2020 Transformation Was Insane

Written By: batfan2005 on 09/16/22 at 5:58 am


A truly awful year. I still don't understand how some people didn't feel the transition by the end of August


It was supposed to have been a good year too. It was supposed to be the new 2004 and 1988. The pandemic disrupted the order in the universe. Nothing has been the same since then, even though now everything is trying to return to 2019.

Subject: Re: The 2020 Transformation Was Insane

Written By: Voiceofthe70s on 09/16/22 at 9:08 am


It was supposed to have been a good year too. It was supposed to be the new 2004 and 1988. The pandemic disrupted the order in the universe. Nothing has been the same since then, even though now everything is trying to return to 2019.


I'm not sure where you come up with these theories. Do you have proof that there is an "order to the universe" that was supposed to have cosmically worked to make 2020 somehow like 2004 and 1988? And were 1988 and 2004 the same originally, or was 2020 going to be a "new" kind of blend of the two? You say it was "supposed" to have been a good year, as if it was preordained. is this like astrology or something?

Subject: Re: The 2020 Transformation Was Insane

Written By: batfan2005 on 09/16/22 at 1:07 pm


I'm not sure where you come up with these theories. Do you have proof that there is an "order to the universe" that was supposed to have cosmically worked to make 2020 somehow like 2004 and 1988? And were 1988 and 2004 the same originally, or was 2020 going to be a "new" kind of blend of the two? You say it was "supposed" to have been a good year, as if it was preordained. is this like astrology or something?


2004 was a lot more like a repeat of 1988 than 2020 was a repeat was of 2004, and likewise with 2021 in relation to 2005 and 1989 (especially since the Batman movie got delayed). It's just how the nostalgia cycle works. Each year is normally like a blend of the year 16 and 32 years before it. Also the summer Olympics years are normally supposed to be the good years, at least that's how I remembered them since 1988.

Subject: Re: The 2020 Transformation Was Insane

Written By: Voiceofthe70s on 09/16/22 at 1:36 pm


2004 was a lot more like a repeat of 1988 than 2020 was a repeat was of 2004, and likewise with 2021 in relation to 2005 and 1989 (especially since the Batman movie got delayed). It's just how the nostalgia cycle works. Each year is normally like a blend of the year 16 and 32 years before it. Also the summer Olympics years are normally supposed to be the good years, at least that's how I remembered them since 1988.


What troubles me is you express it as if it is a hard and fast rule. In fact, it sounds made up. Did you come up with it or is this a theory that has been studied? I personally did not experience these cycles happening as you explain them. I also know several other people who did not. 2004 was nothing, and I mean NOTHING like 1988. I lived through 1988 and saw NOTHING of it in 2004.  And I REALLY saw nothing of 1989 (which I remember like it was yesterday) in 2021. Hoo boy, is that one off! Another unsubstantiated claim stated as fact is "the summer Olympics years are normally supposed to be the good years, at least that's how I remembered them since 1988."  Well let me tell you about PRIOR to 1988. How about the 1972 Summer Olympics massacre  in Munich  in which eleven Israeli athletes and coaches and a West German police officer were killed? How about the huge political upheavals of the 1968 Olympics in Mexico City? And let's not even mention Hitler's 1936 Summer Olympics in Berlin. So if your law only goes back to 1988 it can't be a Universal law, because a Universal law would have existed always. And they don't just change suddenly when you happened to be born, or when your consciousness started noticing things.  I'm sorry, but the whole thing just sounds like something you concocted within the finite confines of your own lifetime. I hate to poke holes in your little system, but it just bothers me that you are trying to pass it off as a real thing. It could be a self fulfilling prophecy or it's current counterpart "confirmation bias". It may be that the universe works for you that way because you believe it does.  In which case you will find ways to see that it is true. But it isn't working that way for everybody.

Subject: Re: The 2020 Transformation Was Insane

Written By: batfan2005 on 09/16/22 at 1:46 pm


What troubles me is you express it as if it is a hard and fast rule. In fact, it sounds made up. Did you come up with it or is this a theory that has been studied? I personally did not experience these cycles happening as you explain them. I also know several other people who did not. 2004 was nothing, and I mean NOTHING like 1988. I lived through 1988 and saw NOTHING of it in 2004.  And I REALLY saw nothing of 1989 (which I remember like it was yesterday) in 2021. Hoo boy, is that one off! Another unsubstantiated claim stated as fact is "the summer Olympics years are normally supposed to be the good years, at least that's how I remembered them since 1988."  Well let me tell you about PRIOR to 1988. How about the 1972 Summer Olympics massacre  in Munich  in which eleven Israeli athletes and coaches and a West German police officer were killed? How about the huge political upheavals of the 1968 Olympics in Mexico City? And let's not even mention Hitler's 1936 Summer Olympics in Berlin. So if your law only goes back to 1988 it can't be a Universal law, because a Universal law would have existed always. And they don't just change suddenly when you happened to be born, or when your consciousness started noticing things.  I'm sorry, but the whole thing just sounds like something you concocted within the finite confines of your own lifetime. I hate to poke holes in your little system, but it just bothers me that you are trying to pass it off as a real thing. It could be a self fulfilling prophecy or it's current counterpart "confirmation bias". It may be that the universe works for you that way because you believe it does.  In which case you will find ways to see that it is true. But it isn't working that way for everybody.


Well to me it is and I don't care what anyone else thinks.

Subject: Re: The 2020 Transformation Was Insane

Written By: Howard on 09/16/22 at 3:52 pm


It was supposed to have been a good year too. It was supposed to be the new 2004 and 1988. The pandemic disrupted the order in the universe. Nothing has been the same since then, even though now everything is trying to return to 2019.

I think slowly but surely things will most likely get back to normal.

Subject: Re: The 2020 Transformation Was Insane

Written By: Mitch Kramer on 09/16/22 at 5:25 pm


2004 was nothing, and I mean NOTHING like 1988. I lived through 1988 and saw NOTHING of it in 2004. 


It totally WAS, dude!  In 2004, we had a wave of 80s nostalgia.  In 1988, Madonna was near the top of the charts. In 2004, Madonna's Re-Invention Tour was the most successful concert tour of the year!

Moreover, a Republican named Bush was elected President in BOTH years!  How amazing of a coincidence is that?!?  ;D  ;D

In fact, going back another 16 years, we had another Republican, Nixon, elected in 1972.  George H Bush even served in the Nixon Administration!

Also, consider this amazing fact: in 1987, Pink Floyd released A Momentary Lapse of Reason.  Sixteen years before that, they released Meddle in 1971.  Nixon tried to meddle in the 1972 election while Reagan's Iran-Contra scandal, which consumed the news in 1987, has indeed been described as a momentary lapse in reason.  Man, this is getting deep.

Going back another sixteen years from 1972, we had yet another Republican, Eisenhower, in 1956.  Now, consider this absolutely mind blowing fact: Nixon was Eisenhower's VICE PRESIDENT!  Eisenhower himself was connected with 1940 President FDR because he served as Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces during WWII.  George W was George H's son.  Biden's son Beau served in the National Guard during the Iraq War, which was started by George W.  Everything is cosmically connected, man.

So there's clearly a pattern that repeats every 16 years:

2020 Joe Biden (Democrat)
2004 George W Bush (Republican)
1988 George H Bush (Republican)
1972 Richard Nixon (Republican)
1956 Dwight Eisenhower (Republican)
1940 Franklin Roosevelt (Democrat)
1924 Calvin Coolidge (Republican)
1908 Howard Taft (Republican)
1892 Grover Cleveland (Democrat)
1876 Rutherford Hayes (Republican)
1860 Abraham Lincoln (Republican)

The anomalies in 1940 and 2020 are easily explained by the fact that, at the end of both years, Jupiter (planet of wisdom and justice) was conjunct with Saturn (planet of the working class).  The Democrats are the party of the working class, so ... OBVIOUSLY, in both years they'd win the election!  Grover Cleveland is explained away because he was a fiscal conservative, so he was sort of like a Republican.

Man, this is so cool.  If you go looking for patterns, you can absolutely find them...

Subject: Re: The 2020 Transformation Was Insane

Written By: Voiceofthe70s on 09/16/22 at 7:42 pm


It totally WAS, dude!  In 2004, we had a wave of 80s nostalgia.  In 1988, Madonna was near the top of the charts. In 2004, Madonna's Re-Invention Tour was the most successful concert tour of the year!

Moreover, a Republican named Bush was elected President in BOTH years!  How amazing of a coincidence is that?!?  ;D  ;D

In fact, going back another 16 years, we had another Republican, Nixon, elected in 1972.  George H Bush even served in the Nixon Administration!

Also, consider this amazing fact: in 1987, Pink Floyd released A Momentary Lapse of Reason.  Sixteen years before that, they released Meddle in 1971.  Nixon tried to meddle in the 1972 election while Reagan's Iran-Contra scandal, which consumed the news in 1987, has indeed been described as a momentary lapse in reason.  Man, this is getting deep.

Going back another sixteen years from 1972, we had yet another Republican, Eisenhower, in 1956.  Now, consider this absolutely mind blowing fact: Nixon was Eisenhower's VICE PRESIDENT!  Eisenhower himself was connected with 1940 President FDR because he served as Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces during WWII.  George W was George H's son.  Biden's son Beau served in the National Guard during the Iraq War, which was started by George W.  Everything is cosmically connected, man.

So there's clearly a pattern that repeats every 16 years:

2020 Joe Biden (Democrat)
2004 George W Bush (Republican)
1988 George H Bush (Republican)
1972 Richard Nixon (Republican)
1956 Dwight Eisenhower (Republican)
1940 Franklin Roosevelt (Democrat)
1924 Calvin Coolidge (Republican)
1908 Howard Taft (Republican)
1892 Grover Cleveland (Democrat)
1876 Rutherford Hayes (Republican)
1860 Abraham Lincoln (Republican)

The anomalies in 1940 and 2020 are easily explained by the fact that, at the end of both years, Jupiter (planet of wisdom and justice) was conjunct with Saturn (planet of the working class).  The Democrats are the party of the working class, so ... OBVIOUSLY, in both years they'd win the election!  Grover Cleveland is explained away because he was a fiscal conservative, so he was sort of like a Republican.

Man, this is so cool.  If you go looking for patterns, you can absolutely find them...


;D  O0  ;D

And don't forget if you smoke a lot of pot and then play "Dark Side of The Moon" while watching the "Wizard of Oz"...

Subject: Re: The 2020 Transformation Was Insane

Written By: Voiceofthe70s on 09/16/22 at 8:24 pm

Apophenia (/æpoʊˈfiːniə/) is the tendency to perceive meaningful connections between unrelated things. The term (German: Apophänie from the Greek verb ἀποφαίνειν (apophaínein)) was coined by psychiatrist Klaus Conrad in his 1958 publication on the beginning stages of schizophrenia. He defined it as "unmotivated seeing of connections a specific feeling of abnormal meaningfulness". He described the early stages of delusional thought as self-referential over-interpretations of actual sensory perceptions, as opposed to hallucinations.

Apophenia has also come to describe a human propensity to unreasonably seek patterns in random information, such as can occur while gambling.

Gambling:
Gamblers may imagine that they see patterns in the numbers that appear in lotteries, card games, or roulette wheels, where no such patterns exist. A common example of this is the gambler's fallacy.

Statistics:
In statistics, apophenia is an example of a type I error – the false identification of patterns in data. It may be compared to a so-called false positive in other test situations.

-Wikipedia

Subject: Re: The 2020 Transformation Was Insane

Written By: batfan2005 on 09/16/22 at 9:47 pm


It totally WAS, dude!  In 2004, we had a wave of 80s nostalgia.  In 1988, Madonna was near the top of the charts. In 2004, Madonna's Re-Invention Tour was the most successful concert tour of the year!

Moreover, a Republican named Bush was elected President in BOTH years!  How amazing of a coincidence is that?!?  ;D  ;D

In fact, going back another 16 years, we had another Republican, Nixon, elected in 1972.  George H Bush even served in the Nixon Administration!

Also, consider this amazing fact: in 1987, Pink Floyd released A Momentary Lapse of Reason.  Sixteen years before that, they released Meddle in 1971.  Nixon tried to meddle in the 1972 election while Reagan's Iran-Contra scandal, which consumed the news in 1987, has indeed been described as a momentary lapse in reason.  Man, this is getting deep.

Going back another sixteen years from 1972, we had yet another Republican, Eisenhower, in 1956.  Now, consider this absolutely mind blowing fact: Nixon was Eisenhower's VICE PRESIDENT!  Eisenhower himself was connected with 1940 President FDR because he served as Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces during WWII.  George W was George H's son.  Biden's son Beau served in the National Guard during the Iraq War, which was started by George W.  Everything is cosmically connected, man.

So there's clearly a pattern that repeats every 16 years:

2020 Joe Biden (Democrat)
2004 George W Bush (Republican)
1988 George H Bush (Republican)
1972 Richard Nixon (Republican)
1956 Dwight Eisenhower (Republican)
1940 Franklin Roosevelt (Democrat)
1924 Calvin Coolidge (Republican)
1908 Howard Taft (Republican)
1892 Grover Cleveland (Democrat)
1876 Rutherford Hayes (Republican)
1860 Abraham Lincoln (Republican)

The anomalies in 1940 and 2020 are easily explained by the fact that, at the end of both years, Jupiter (planet of wisdom and justice) was conjunct with Saturn (planet of the working class).  The Democrats are the party of the working class, so ... OBVIOUSLY, in both years they'd win the election!  Grover Cleveland is explained away because he was a fiscal conservative, so he was sort of like a Republican.

Man, this is so cool.  If you go looking for patterns, you can absolutely find them...


And not only that but both of the Bush's opponents were Democrat senators from Massachusetts. If it weren't for the pandemic, Trump would have been elected for a second term. Also the 2004 film "The Prince and Me" was about a prince traveling the the US and meeting/following in love with an average American girl, just like a 1988 film with Eddie Murphy playing a prince from the fictitious nation of Zamunda. The sequel to the said 1988 was originally supposed to have been released in 2020 but got delayed to the spring of 2021 and direct to streaming on Amazon Prime. There was also a 2004 film about a girl who wishes she was older (age 30) which also had a similar plot to a Tom Hanks film from 1988. And in the fall of 2004 Brittany Spears released a remake of a Bobby Brown song from the fall of 1988 (My Prerogative).

In June 2005, Batman Begins was released, a first of the Christopher Nolan/Christian Bale series while in June 1989 the first of the Tim Burton/Michael Keaton Batman series was released. The first of the Matt Reeves/Robert Pattinson series was originally supposed to have been released in June 2021, but the pandemic screwed that up. At least Gwen Stefani released a song similar to "Hollaback Girl" in 2021.

Unfortunately I do see a lot of 2006 in 2022, mainly with the bland/mediocre pop-culture with the lack of good music, movies, and TV shows and the overall "everything sucks" vibe.

Subject: Re: The 2020 Transformation Was Insane

Written By: Slim95 on 09/17/22 at 7:49 pm


And not only that but both of the Bush's opponents were Democrat senators from Massachusetts. If it weren't for the pandemic, Trump would have been elected for a second term. Also the 2004 film "The Prince and Me" was about a prince traveling the the US and meeting/following in love with an average American girl, just like a 1988 film with Eddie Murphy playing a prince from the fictitious nation of Zamunda. The sequel to the said 1988 was originally supposed to have been released in 2020 but got delayed to the spring of 2021 and direct to streaming on Amazon Prime. There was also a 2004 film about a girl who wishes she was older (age 30) which also had a similar plot to a Tom Hanks film from 1988. And in the fall of 2004 Brittany Spears released a remake of a Bobby Brown song from the fall of 1988 (My Prerogative).

In June 2005, Batman Begins was released, a first of the Christopher Nolan/Christian Bale series while in June 1989 the first of the Tim Burton/Michael Keaton Batman series was released. The first of the Matt Reeves/Robert Pattinson series was originally supposed to have been released in June 2021, but the pandemic screwed that up. At least Gwen Stefani released a song similar to "Hollaback Girl" in 2021.

Unfortunately I do see a lot of 2006 in 2022, mainly with the bland/mediocre pop-culture with the lack of good music, movies, and TV shows and the overall "everything sucks" vibe.

I think we are on the verge of a shift. Either in Q4 2022 or Q1 2023. I would be surprised if we are still in the same era past that point. But it is possible the current era we're in drags on throughout 2023. I just don't see it. Too many changes happening now that are signs of a new shift into the mid 2020s.

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