I have a feeling that the 2020s will start late culturally. Things don't seem that different from 2018, Trump is still president and the current #1 song in the country is a trap song(The Box - Roddy Ricch). 2010 felt noticeably different from 2008 thanks to Obama and electropop everywhere at the beginning of the year. 2020 is similar to 1990 and will probably know the decade's identity till 2021/2022.

It really depends on how 2021/2022 are like. I think 2019 was sufficiently different from the rest of the decade: strong economy, fears of techno-dystopia, no terrorist/ISIS attacks, TikTok, baggier fashion (90s revival), eBoys/eGirls, AirPods, smartspeakers, Greta Thunberg/Extinction Rebellion, Billie Ellish, Lizzo etc. etc. etc.

The problem is, if 2021 or 2022 turns the world upside down, then 2019/2020 are going to retroactively look very 2010s. However, if they carry on and build on with these new trends, many will say the 2020s started in 2019 and how it was "obvious". ;D

There have also been many big events in 2020 itself with Brexit, YouTube enacting COPPA, and Coronavirus, and we're only 2 months in!

There have also been many big events in 2020 itself with Brexit, YouTube enacting COPPA, and Coronavirus, and we're only 2 months in!
I agreed, there are the main changes over the last months...

The changes started with the General Election in December last year.

It really depends on how 2021/2022 are like. I think 2019 was sufficiently different from the rest of the decade: strong economy, fears of techno-dystopia, TikTok, baggier fashion (90s reviavl), eBoys/eGirls, AirPods, smartspeakers, Greta Thunberg/Extinction Rebellion, Billie Ellish, Lizzo etc. etc. etc.

The problem is, if 2021 or 2022 turns the world upside down, then 2019/2020 are going to retroactively look very 2010s. However, if they carry on and build on with these new trends, many will say the 2020s started in 2019 and how it was "obvious". ;D

I guess you're right about 2019, those things are different from the rest of the 2010s although Billie Eilish was getting some buzz in 2018. We'll see who gets elected in the 2020 election. It's like how 2016 was a transitional year despite being a mid 2010s year culturally and the new vibe is established in 2017. We'll probably see the same thing for 2021.

If Bernie Sanders wins Election ’20 The early 20s would start culturally. He’s Anti-Trump and Anti-Democrat establishment.

If Bernie Sanders wins Election ’20 The early 20s would start culturally. He’s Anti-Trump and Anti-Democrat establishment.


Even if Trump gets reelected the culture will change during his second term, just like it did during Obama, GWB, and Clinton's second term.

20s culture started like in late 2016. Which means 20s culture will be pretty much finished by 2026.

20s culture started like in late 2016. Which means 20s culture will be pretty much finished by 2026.

No, that was when late 2010's cultural started.

It really depends on how 2021/2022 are like. I think 2019 was sufficiently different from the rest of the decade: strong economy, fears of techno-dystopia, no terrorist/ISIS attacks, TikTok, baggier fashion (90s revival), eBoys/eGirls, AirPods, smartspeakers, Greta Thunberg/Extinction Rebellion, Billie Ellish, Lizzo etc. etc. etc.

The problem is, if 2021 or 2022 turns the world upside down, then 2019/2020 are going to retroactively look very 2010s. However, if they carry on and build on with these new trends, many will say the 2020s started in 2019 and how it was "obvious". ;D

There have also been many big events in 2020 itself with Brexit, YouTube enacting COPPA, and Coronavirus, and we're only 2 months in!

Idk. Honestly I feel like 2019 was more 2010's than 2009 was 2000's. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Idk if songs like Don’t Start Now or Blinding Lights will be the sounds of the early 20s. I will say the introduction of foldable phones does make the 2010s look different.

Yes it will. But I recount what I said a couple days ago of things not changing. I am already noticing little changes especially the foldable phones. They are starting to be more popular and coming down in price too. Same as R&B songs starting to be a little more popular, perhaps eventually replacing trap. It's still too early but I do see hints of what early '20s culture will bring. Am I alone with this thought?

Idk. Honestly I feel like 2019 was more 2010's than 2009 was 2000's. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Wayyy more no competition there. 2010s culture started early in '08. Same as 2000s culture starting in 1998. 2020s culture hasn't even started yet.

Wayyy more no competition there. 2010s culture started early in '08. Same as 2000s culture starting in 1998. 2020s culture hasn't even started yet.


Wow, you're right, 2008 is absolutely 2010s. There is no way that this song is 2000s in any way shape or form :
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Same thing with 1998. No 90s here, just 2000s:
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Wow, you're right, 2008 is absolutely 2010s. There is no way that this song is 2000s in any way shape or form :
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Same thing with 1998. No 90s here, just 2000s:
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Yes that is right. 2008 the 2010s started culturally. And in 1998 the 2000s started culturally. The 2020s have not started yet culturally.

Yes that is right. 2008 the 2010s started culturally. And in 1998 the 2000s started culturally. The 2020s have not started yet culturally.

I was being sarcastic.

I was being sarcastic.

Well I strongly disagree with you then.

Well I strongly disagree with you then.

This is a photo from 2008. More 2000s:
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This is a photo from 2017. More 2010s:
https://www.thedailyworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/web1_2017-Aberdeen-High-honors-feature.jpg

It's not that hard  ;)

This is a photo from 2008. More 2000s:


This is a photo from 2017. More 2010s:

...and are a bit on the large size?

This is a photo from 2008. More 2000s:
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This is a photo from 2017. More 2010s:
https://www.thedailyworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/web1_2017-Aberdeen-High-honors-feature.jpg

It's not that hard  ;)

The camera quality definitely changed for the better. :)

the 2020's have already been going for 6 weeks stop trolling  ;D

Yes it will. But I recount what I said a couple days ago of things not changing. I am already noticing little changes especially the foldable phones. They are starting to be more popular and coming down in price too. Same as R&B songs starting to be a little more popular, perhaps eventually replacing trap. It's still too early but I do see hints of what early '20s culture will bring. Am I alone with this thought?

With the highly expensive prices of foldable phones (The Razr is over $1,380), I don't think most people will buy them in flux, so I guess we have to wait a long while before they're cheaper to see if they'll be a cultural mainstay like slab smartphones.

I hope synth-R&B gets more popular than trap, though.

With the highly expensive prices of foldable phones (The Razr is over $1,380), I don't think most people will buy them in flux, so I guess we have to wait a long while before they're cheaper to see if they'll be a cultural mainstay like slab smartphones.

I hope synth-R&B gets more popular than trap, though.


Isn't $1400 typical for a smartphone these days? I think if someone wants attention or to talk to them at parties, they should buy it. But the specs are much worse than the similarly-priced S20, so I don't think most people would buy it.

Isn't $1400 typical for a smartphone these days? I think if someone wants attention or to talk to them at parties, they should buy it. But the specs are much worse than the similarly-priced S20, so I don't think most people would buy it.

Well, most global smartphone sales have been declining steadily anyways, considering that most people already own a smartphone and are keeping them longer.

With the highly expensive prices of foldable phones (The Razr is over $1,380), I don't think most people will buy them in flux, so I guess we have to wait a long while before they're cheaper to see if they'll be a cultural mainstay like slab smartphones.

I hope synth-R&B gets more popular than trap, though.

I think they'll just be a fad. I have heard flip phones are being sold again, why would anyone buy want to go backwards, the nostalgia will wear off?

I think they'll just be a fad. I have heard flip phones are being sold again, why would anyone buy want to go backwards, the nostalgia will wear off?

I actually still have a flip phone; in fact I got it when it was new in 2013 - seven years ago. And it still works perfectly fine. I can send and receive text messages on it, but I can't block spam callers.

I think they'll just be a fad. I have heard flip phones are being sold again, why would anyone buy want to go backwards, the nostalgia will wear off?


He is talking about the smartphone flip phone, like the Z Flip or Galaxy Fold.

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Regular flip phones are making a comeback tho, it's because people are overwhelmed by social media and other apps and don't want 24/7 connectivity, so they're going back to regular phones.

I feel like the Fold concept will be more popular in the end; people want giant screens rather than compact phones. Either way, this is an exciting trend. I think it will take a couple of years though for it to be good enough to catch on.

He is talking about the smartphone flip phone, like the Z Flip or Galaxy Fold.

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Regular flip phones are making a comeback tho, it's because people are overwhelmed by social media and other apps and don't want 24/7 connectivity, so they're going back to regular phones.

I feel like the Fold concept will be more popular in the end; people want giant screens rather than compact phones. Either way, this is an exciting trend. I think it will take a couple of years though for it to be good enough to catch on.

Smart flips are folded slab smartphones, so they're not that far off the concept.

Smart flips are folded slab smartphones, so they're not that far off the concept.


I meant that I think the "Fold concept" of having a phone that folds outwards to become a tablet (like the Galaxy Fold) will be more popular than the "Flip concept" of having a clamshell that folds out to become a phone (like the Z Flip). Sorry if that didn't make sense ;D

I think 2020 will probably be similar to 2017-2019 culturally and musically, but in terms of world events it's already feeling different. I saw a Bitcoin trading machine at the mall the other day.

I meant that I think the "Fold concept" of having a phone that folds outwards to become a tablet (like the Galaxy Fold) will be more popular than the "Flip concept" of having a clamshell that folds out to become a phone (like the Z Flip). Sorry if that didn't make sense ;D

Right, gotcha.

I think 2020 will probably be similar to 2017-2019 culturally and musically, but in terms of world events it's already feeling different. I saw a Bitcoin trading machine at the mall the other day.

I saw one at the local gas station near my house as well. I think we're about to become more cashless this decade and more reliant on digital currency.

The PS5 and Xbox Series X are gonna start off the ninth generation of video game consoles later this year, so it's gonna be interesting what they'll fully offer.

At first people are gonna say "2020s culture started early in 2018-2019, when Billie Eilish came out" or whatever. But then around 2025, pop culture will get turned on its head (similar to what happened to the 2010s halfway through) and people are gonna change their tune to "Everyone knows the 2010s didn't end till 2024".

Mark my words, this is always the pattern lol. We go in one direction at the first half of the decade and we think it'll last for a while, but then things take a sharp turn away from it in the second half.

Yeah, 2020s culture might start late, sometime in probably 2021...

However, there are some influences that could be considered Early 2020s:
-Foldable phones (We all know that is 2020s stuff)
-PS5 and Xbox Series X
-Disney+
-Mandalorean
-Games like Cyberpunk 2077 ft. KEANU REEVES  :D

At first people are gonna say "2020s culture started early in 2018-2019, when Billie Eilish came out" or whatever. But then around 2025, pop culture will get turned on its head (similar to what happened to the 2010s halfway through) and people are gonna change their tune to "Everyone knows the 2010s didn't end till 2024".

Mark my words, this is always the pattern lol. We go in one direction at the first half of the decade and we think it'll last for a while, but then things take a sharp turn away from it in the second half.

So true. It's like rolling a die on how the decade's gonna pan out.

Either 2020 or 2021. We will be in the new culture by 2022 for sure I think. I personally believe the shift will start this year and the new culture will be settled by 2021.

The new culture will take over in 2023, but it will start to come into the mainstream more in 2022.

The 2020s have already started, but we will start to see more new culture as the year 2020 goes on. As for now, we’re living in the purest part of those The Masked Singer,  lesser known Marvel heroes movies, and jogger jeaned early 2020s.

The music of the early 2020s is already being established right now. Check out my thread "Early 2020s Music" and you'll see what the style of music of the early 2020s is. It's a mature enhancement of late 2010s sound.

The music of the early 2020s is already being established right now. Check out my thread "Early 2020s Music" and you'll see what the style of music of the early 2020s is. It's a mature enhancement of late 2010s sound.


In the future, I’m sure some folks will think of the music we’re listening to now as “2010s carryovers”, but true pop culturalists, like yourself, know that we’re currently jamming to 2020s music. As time goes on, Billie Eilish might be seen as a 2020s artist in the way we see Michael Bolton as a 90s artist nowadays. Michael Bolton had “Soul Provider” in 1989, but the grossly overplayed “How Am I Supposed to Live Without You” became a hit in 1990 and “When a Man Loves a Woman” was number one on the Billboard Hot 100 chart in 1991.

I hope the 2020s are better than the 2010s. I don’t want to miss the 2010s like I started missing the 2000s last year.

Yeah plus the new foldable phones that are coming out are also signs of the new culture.

I think 2020 is a transitional year and the new culture will start soon. We're seeing hints of what the new culture is bringing now with foldable phones, new streaming services, darker music with decline of trap, and possibly alt rock music coming back.

People usually think change happens overnight or they will sense it without looking. But really looking back I think they will see 2020 has some changes going and it is a transition to the next era. It's gradual and it isn't sudden but you can't deny it's there.

I think 2020 is a transitional year and the new culture will start soon. We're seeing hints of what the new culture is bringing now with foldable phones, new streaming services, darker music with decline of trap, and possibly alt rock music coming back.

People usually think change happens overnight or they will sense it without looking. But really looking back I think they will see 2020 has some changes going and it is a transition to the next era. It's gradual and it isn't sudden but you can't deny it's there.


The most changes for the year 2020 that we will see will happen towards the end of the year.

I dunno, I think the 2020s started culturally three months ago.

The early 80s were a product of the 1970s.
The early 90s were a product of the 1980s.
The early 2000s were a product of the 1990s.
The early 2010s were a product of the 2000s.
The early 2020s were a product of the 2010s and the early 2030s will be a product of the 2020s.

I believe what the OP is asking is when will we start to build on what happened in the 2010s. When will there be backlash for stuff like Fortnite, the Pitch Perfect movie series, and Game of Thrones? It’s going to take a while longer, but we are living in the 2020s. The changes you want to see will happen more towards 2023, not any time sooner.

I dunno, I think the 2020s started culturally three months ago.

On December 1, 2019? How come?  ???

The early 80s were a product of the 1970s.
The early 90s were a product of the 1980s.
The early 2000s were a product of the 1990s.
The early 2010s were a product of the 2000s.
The early 2020s were a product of the 2010s and the early 2030s will be a product of the 2020s.

I believe what the OP is asking is when will we start to build on what happened in the 2010s. When will there be backlash for stuff like Fortnite, the Pitch Perfect movie series, and Game of Thrones? It’s going to take a while longer, but we are living in the 2020s. The changes you want to see will happen more towards 2023, not any time sooner.


There was a Game of Thrones backlash, the last season was awful. There are no new episodes after 2019.

I feel like for every decade, it's always the 3rd year when we begin to see how the decade shapes up in a culturally sense. For instance, I would not consider 1982 to be part of the cultural 80s since most stuff from the late 70s was still in like the fashion, music, etc. I think 2020s culture won't begin to form until 2023.

I agree with Slowpoke in that there is already backlash over GoT. I cannot begin to count all the people I know who used to be fans hate the show now, myself included.

There was a Game of Thrones backlash, the last season was awful. There are no new episodes after 2019.


The world never recovered from coffee cup-gate.

The early 80s were a product of the 1970s.
The early 90s were a product of the 1980s.
The early 2000s were a product of the 1990s.
The early 2010s were a product of the 2000s.
The early 2020s were a product of the 2010s and the early 2030s will be a product of the 2020s.

I believe what the OP is asking is when will we start to build on what happened in the 2010s. When will there be backlash for stuff like Fortnite, the Pitch Perfect movie series, and Game of Thrones? It’s going to take a while longer, but we are living in the 2020s. The changes you want to see will happen more towards 2023, not any time sooner.


I’m mostly being cheeky, but you’re right: the beginning of every decade tends to have plenty left over from the decade before it.

That being said, I think there were some key changes in fall and winter 2019 that are the ripples of the “character” of the early 2020s. I’ve also mentioned before I think that bedroom pop, which developed in the middle and late 2010s, is going to set the stage for whatever the next big thing will be in the 2020s. Even if it’s not bedroom pop itself, I can see it paving the way for something else that becomes huge, much like ‘80s hardcore punk and alternative set the stage for early ‘90s grunge.

The world never recovered from coffee cup-gate.


And the water bottle debacle.  ???

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I’m mostly being cheeky, but you’re right: the beginning of every decade tends to have plenty left over from the decade before it.

That being said, I think there were some key changes in fall and winter 2019 that are the ripples of the “character” of the early 2020s. I’ve also mentioned before I think that bedroom pop, which developed in the middle and late 2010s, is going to set the stage for whatever the next big thing will be in the 2020s. Even if it’s not bedroom pop itself, I can see it paving the way for something else that becomes huge, much like ‘80s hardcore punk and alternative set the stage for early ‘90s grunge.


The new culture from each period usually spans into the next period somehow until we get tired of it. That’s how it was for the 80s (when we fell out of touch with the pop culture made in the 1970s) and for each time after the 1980s.

It started in March 2020 with the coronavirus, so it's probably one of the fastest cultural changes.

It started in March 2020 with the coronavirus, so it's probably one of the fastest cultural changes.


I never thought that the 2010s would end this way, but it did.  :o

I hope pop culture resets after the virus mostly recesses and we could have an instant cultural shift in terms of music, TV, movies, and sports.

I never thought that the 2010s would end this way, but it did.  :o

I hope pop culture resets after the virus mostly recesses and we could have an instant cultural shift in terms of music, TV, movies, and sports.


It definitely will.
I think by September 2020, everything will be back to normal and we'll probably see a lot of new movies/songs/games getting released together and will probably cause a big impact because of how dry the early year has been on new releases in all entretainment mediums.

I didn't expect the 2010s leftover culture to end this fast, but the 2020s could end up as one of the most revolutionary decades like the 80s or 90s....

Coronavirus wouldn't change pop culture completely, that's a lot like saying 9/11 jarringly changed pop culture in 1 day...

Right now, music is the same as 2019, Lizzo, Post Malone, Roddy Rich, Billie Eilish, Lil Uzi Vert, etc. Coronavirus did not change anything about music, all I can think of is the 'Its Corona Time' Tik Tok, but it's just a HILARIOUS meme that I've been laughing so hard to and singing 'Its Corona Time' when I'm at home, quarantined  ;D Haha, anyways, no changes here.

Movies haven't changed aside from the fact that Cinemas are closing so new movies are released digitally or on CD's/DVD's, but the theme right now is consistent with Disney Remakes, Upcoming Superhero movies, and more. Keanu Reeves has nothing to do with Coronavirus. Same could be said for TV, in fact, the late 2010s Netflix and Disney+ TV Shows just got even more popular since everyone is quarantined at home. Once again, no changes aside from the fact new movies are released Digitally.

Video games are the same, just more popular again since everyone is quarantined (Take a shot everytime I say 'quarantined'  ;D)

Socially, it's different though, but it will come back to normal in a few months or possibly weeks. Everyone is still scared about it, buying tissues and toilet papers, and Social Media sites have been aware about the virus. Everyone is quarantined at their homes or in ships, but it wont last forever.

Memes is the only cultural part that's changed, we went from the Cute Baby Yoda to the Coronavirus memes, but memes change every month so no surprises here.

How could a flu start a new decade? That makes no sense...

It started in March 2020 with the coronavirus, so it's probably one of the fastest cultural changes.
Nope. Theres very little to no changes in pop culture aside from the memes and Tik Toks. The only major change is everyone staying in their homes worrying about the virus, but that's temporary, and it will be back to normal in a few weeks or months.

Nope. Theres very little to no changes in pop culture aside from the memes and Tik Toks. The only major change is everyone staying in their homes worrying about the virus, but that's temporary, and it will be back to normal in a few weeks or months.


We will see the most change towards the end of the year. For some reason, every time period and era is remembered for what happened at the end of it. 1990 is known for Vanilla Ice, Home Alone, and Operation Desert Storm. All of those events happened from August of 1990 onward.

Coronavirus wouldn't change pop culture completely, that's a lot like saying 9/11 jarringly changed pop culture in 1 day...

Right now, music is the same as 2019, Lizzo, Post Malone, Roddy Rich, Billie Eilish, Lil Uzi Vert, etc. Coronavirus did not change anything about music, all I can think of is the 'Its Corona Time' Tik Tok, but it's just a HILARIOUS meme that I've been laughing so hard to and singing 'Its Corona Time' when I'm at home, quarantined  ;D Haha, anyways, no changes here.

Movies haven't changed aside from the fact that Cinemas are closing so new movies are released digitally or on CD's/DVD's, but the theme right now is consistent with Disney Remakes, Upcoming Superhero movies, and more. Keanu Reeves has nothing to do with Coronavirus. Same could be said for TV, in fact, the late 2010s Netflix and Disney+ TV Shows just got even more popular since everyone is quarantined at home. Once again, no changes aside from the fact new movies are released Digitally.

Video games are the same, just more popular again since everyone is quarantined (Take a shot everytime I say 'quarantined'  ;D)

Socially, it's different though, but it will come back to normal in a few months or possibly weeks. Everyone is still scared about it, buying tissues and toilet papers, and Social Media sites have been aware about the virus. Everyone is quarantined at their homes or in ships, but it wont last forever.

Memes is the only cultural part that's changed, we went from the Cute Baby Yoda to the Coronavirus memes, but memes change every month so no surprises here.

How could a flu start a new decade? That makes no sense...


The virus halted the music scene indefinitely. But I think 2021 will still be the year where we'll see a cultural transition because trap hip-hop/pop music will die off at that point. It's gotten stale.

Coronavirus wouldn't change pop culture completely, that's a lot like saying 9/11 jarringly changed pop culture in 1 day...

Right now, music is the same as 2019, Lizzo, Post Malone, Roddy Rich, Billie Eilish, Lil Uzi Vert, etc. Coronavirus did not change anything about music, all I can think of is the 'Its Corona Time' Tik Tok, but it's just a HILARIOUS meme that I've been laughing so hard to and singing 'Its Corona Time' when I'm at home, quarantined  ;D Haha, anyways, no changes here.

Movies haven't changed aside from the fact that Cinemas are closing so new movies are released digitally or on CD's/DVD's, but the theme right now is consistent with Disney Remakes, Upcoming Superhero movies, and more. Keanu Reeves has nothing to do with Coronavirus. Same could be said for TV, in fact, the late 2010s Netflix and Disney+ TV Shows just got even more popular since everyone is quarantined at home. Once again, no changes aside from the fact new movies are released Digitally.

Video games are the same, just more popular again since everyone is quarantined (Take a shot everytime I say 'quarantined'  ;D)

Socially, it's different though, but it will come back to normal in a few months or possibly weeks. Everyone is still scared about it, buying tissues and toilet papers, and Social Media sites have been aware about the virus. Everyone is quarantined at their homes or in ships, but it wont last forever.

Memes is the only cultural part that's changed, we went from the Cute Baby Yoda to the Coronavirus memes, but memes change every month so no surprises here.

How could a flu start a new decade? That makes no sense...

I think people should just wait and see what happens. I think politically, this will definitely have a long lasting effect, but you're right about pop culture being the same.

I think people should just wait and see what happens. I think politically, this will definitely have a long lasting effect, but you're right about pop culture being the same.
Wait is the keyword here, and wait indoors...

We’re currently living in the 2020s, even if we are still listening to albums from the late 2010s, wearing clothes from the late 2010s, and talking like we did in the late 2010s. The changes that occur in this time will be events of the 2020s. Does anyone see the year 2019 as the time of the most recent shift?

How could a flu start a new decade? That makes no sense...


Gee I dunno, maybe all the people dying? And the ensuing global economic recession/depression?

After all, the Black Death is one of the major events that kicked off the Renaissance.

The virus halted the music scene indefinitely. But I think 2021 will still be the year where we'll see a cultural transition because trap hip-hop/pop music will die off at that point. It's gotten stale.


I saw a meme about Cardi B's new album being halted indefinitely, and below that it read "finally some good news", lol. Sadly Usher's new album will probably be delayed. This could mean possible delays for future movies still in production. The Batman, scheduled to be released in summer 2021, is taking at least a 2 week pause from production.

How could a flu start a new decade? That makes no sense...
Because this isn't a flu but an actual disease we know little about that puts the safety of tons of countries in jeopardy???
This crisis will undeniably cause a major trauma in many people, rethink our lifestyle and will undeniably cause ensuing economical downperiods. No way that this is simply something that people can brush off and leave in the past like some kind of fad.

I noticed that you're one of those who's quick to say how the recession changed everything back in 2008, yet find a sanitary crisis that's at least 5x more impactful on people's everyday life doing the same is absurd?

The Canada-US border shut down (except for trade and necessary travel) and the last time that happened was 19 years ago in 9/11. And the loonie dipped to the lowest it has been in 17 years. Pretty crazy times we're in! But hey for those who were complaining about no changes happening, you got the change. Welcome to the 2020s.

The virus halted the music scene indefinitely. But I think 2021 will still be the year where we'll see a cultural transition because trap hip-hop/pop music will die off at that point. It's gotten stale.

There's no way people are gonna go back to listening to trap if and when this all blows over. We are in the transitional year right now.

If you ask me, 2020s culture started almost right on time!

If you ask me, 2020s culture started almost right on time!
There are many microbial culture dishes being used in the research for the vaccine for Covid-19.

for those who were complaining about no changes happening, you got the change. Welcome to the 2020s.


Oh, you mean you?

How could a flu start a new decade? That makes no sense...


I was with you until you said this. This virus (10x deadlier than the flu) widely affected millions of lives. Italy is on the brink of collapse and on the verge of surpassing China's case count, kids are stuck at home with working online or being homeschooled, workers are social distancing at their jobs or working at their jobs, entertainment is at a standstill, and bars, restaurants, and other non-essential buildings have been closed for the most part.

This is definitely a decade-defining event.

There are many microbial culture dishes being used in the research for the vaccine for Covid-19.


I bet my phone screen is multicultural. I need to buy one of those wipes.

I bet my phone screen is multicultural. I need to buy one of those wipes.
I regular wipe my phone, along with general cleaning around my home.

There's no way people are gonna go back to listening to trap if and when this all blows over. We are in the transitional year right now.


Hope you're right.

Coronavirus wouldn't change pop culture completely, that's a lot like saying 9/11 jarringly changed pop culture in 1 day...

Right now, music is the same as 2019, Lizzo, Post Malone, Roddy Rich, Billie Eilish, Lil Uzi Vert, etc. Coronavirus did not change anything about music, all I can think of is the 'Its Corona Time' Tik Tok, but it's just a HILARIOUS meme that I've been laughing so hard to and singing 'Its Corona Time' when I'm at home, quarantined  ;D Haha, anyways, no changes here.

Movies haven't changed aside from the fact that Cinemas are closing so new movies are released digitally or on CD's/DVD's, but the theme right now is consistent with Disney Remakes, Upcoming Superhero movies, and more. Keanu Reeves has nothing to do with Coronavirus. Same could be said for TV, in fact, the late 2010s Netflix and Disney+ TV Shows just got even more popular since everyone is quarantined at home. Once again, no changes aside from the fact new movies are released Digitally.

Video games are the same, just more popular again since everyone is quarantined (Take a shot everytime I say 'quarantined'  ;D)

Socially, it's different though, but it will come back to normal in a few months or possibly weeks. Everyone is still scared about it, buying tissues and toilet papers, and Social Media sites have been aware about the virus. Everyone is quarantined at their homes or in ships, but it wont last forever.

Memes is the only cultural part that's changed, we went from the Cute Baby Yoda to the Coronavirus memes, but memes change every month so no surprises here.

How could a flu start a new decade? That makes no sense...


Not only there is a pandemic going on but the economy is heading to another recession. Of course we are entering in a new decade.

Hope you're right.


If anything, I'm hoping that there are new innovations in music after all of this is said and done.

I regular wipe my phone, along with general cleaning around my home.


I do the same with my phone too.

If anything, I'm hoping that there are gonna be new innovations in music after all of this is said and done.


I agree. This is a definite 1930s/1970s moment.

I agree. This is a definite 1930s/1970s moment.

I think with music producers and stars being homebound, there could be some magic happening.  :)

You guys are saying there is only “2010s spillover” in 2020 making this “2019 part 2”, but these are the very early 2020s. Black Panther balloons are in supermarkets as we still throw up our Wakanda forever signs (until Black Panther 2 comes out), Donald Trump MAGA hats are being referenced everywhere, LOL Surprise! figurines are in stores, and the Baby Yoda memes are continuing to be churned out. Why can’t you all accept that we’re living in the 2020s?

You guys are saying there is only “2010s spillover” in 2020 making this “2019 part 2”, but these are the very early 2020s. Black Panther balloons are in supermarkets as we still throw up our Wakanda forever signs (until Black Panther 2 comes out), Donald Trump MAGA hats are being referenced everywhere, LOL Surprise! figurines are in stores, and the Baby Yoda memes are continuing to be churned out. Why can’t you all accept that we’re living in the 2020s?


While cultural boundaries depend on different analyses, I don't think we're in a totally different pop culture zeitgeist. But the current landscape doesn't really feel super 2010s nor super-anything different. There are some late 2010s leftovers like the things you've mentioned, though.

This is literally everything early 2020s except for the music (and fashion)...

While cultural boundaries depend on different analyses, I don't think we're in a totally different pop culture zeitgeist. But the current landscape doesn't really feel super 2010s nor super-anything different. There are some late 2010s leftovers like the things you've mentioned, though.

I was just watching commercials from 2019 and for some reason I feel weird watching them now. Like I almost feel like I'm watching reruns of commercials from a different era. Skip to 13:12 in this video and you'll know what I'm talking about. It has a completely different meaning now.

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This is literally everything early 2020s except for the music (and fashion)...


Agreed.

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2019 was heavily defined by all the social/ecological/political/economic gatherings and protests.

Now with the pandemic and the social distancing 2020 feels extremely anti-2019.

In fact, 2020 feels like the late 2000s on steroids with both a widespread pandemic and a huge stock market crash.

While cultural boundaries depend on different analyses, I don't think we're in a totally different pop culture zeitgeist. But the current landscape doesn't really feel super 2010s nor super-anything different. There are some late 2010s leftovers like the things you've mentioned, though.


Anyway you look at it, we were getting to the early 2020s in the 2010s. Now we’re all here, so it is like an Alpha wasteland. Alphas were forming their childhood identity in the 2010s. Some Alphas are finally pre-teens now. Alphas will set the culture in the near future.

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In fact, 2020 feels like the late 2000s on steroids with both a widespread pandemic and a huge stock market crash.

Yes, this exactly. Perfectly said. It's the late 2000s on steroids (or 2009 on steroids). In fact this really reminds me of 2009 it got me to a nostalgic flashback during that period, only everything is amplified now.

If you ask me, 2020s culture started almost right on time!

ABSOLUTELY!! The 2020s are ofically here kinda... 2021 I think is when ALL pop culture will be fully affected by this.

Nope. Theres very little to no changes in pop culture aside from the memes and Tik Toks. The only major change is everyone staying in their homes worrying about the virus, but that's temporary, and it will be back to normal in a few weeks or months.

So you actually think we're still in the 2010s culture? It feels more like a transtional period, it doesn't feel like the late 2010s anymore, but NOT QUITE 2020s yet...

To answer the question... Nope the decade is not beginning late it's actually beginning early. 2020 ended the 2010s decade, 2021 maybe the beginning of the decade even if Trump gets reelected. His presidency will culturally be a Nixon/Clinton type thing where the second term culture shifted instead of the culture being consistent...

So you actually think we're still in the 2010s culture? It feels more like a transtional period, it doesn't feel like the late 2010s anymore, but NOT QUITE 2020s yet...


You have read my mind, kind sir.  ;D

The 2020s culturally already started with the nonstop disasters that have been happening since the beginning of the year, including the threat of WW3. Watch a movie made even last year where people are living relatively peaceful normal life’s —hugging, going out into society, going into bars and a somewhat stable economy and look at life now in 2020 with social isolation, the global economic collapse and society potentially collapsing. Life even months ago is drastically different. We’re not in 2010s culture anymore. Apocalypse culture is 2020s culture

This is literally everything early 2020s except for the music (and fashion)...

Even fashion is changing. I see people joking about wearing those black pledge bird mask outfits. Not sure if it’ll go mainstream, but I wouldn’t be surprised if some buzzard fashion starts happening

I do think there will be a "post pandemic" culture, to some degree at least. Hopefully, while people are holed up like this with nothing to do, they are fermenting productive ideas. Writing books, film scripts, creating various forms of art, thinking up new and better was of doing things...all this will emerge and blossom  when the pandemic finally runs it's course. 

Even fashion is changing. I see people joking about wearing those black pledge bird mask outfits. Not sure if it’ll go mainstream, but I wouldn’t be surprised if some buzzard fashion starts happening


Or the leather and metallic outfits seen in Mad Max/Road Warrior.

I do think there will be a "post pandemic" culture, to some degree at least. Hopefully, while people are holed up like this with nothing to do, they are fermenting productive ideas. Writing books, film scripts, creating various forms of art, thinking up new and better was of doing things...all this will emerge and blossom  when the pandemic finally runs it's course.


This is exactly what I'm talking about. We could potentially see some form of pop culture renaissance after the pandemic slows down. People would stay home for so long and probably create new and unique ideas to the world.

At least that's what I think anyway.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. We could potentially see some form of pop culture renaissance after the pandemic slows down. People would stay home for so long and probably create new and unique ideas to the world.

At least that's what I think anyway.


Yes, but it won't be all sweetness and light either. I think it will be mixed with a sad or dark side from whatever negative impact the pandemic has, be it personal loss, economic woes, etc.

This pandemic is changing the way people physically look also. Barber shops and beauty salons are being mandated to close in many areas, and in other areas they are closing voluntarily. Anybody who would go to a place like that now is crazy anyway. People will emerge from this with a different look.

Even fashion is changing. I see people joking about wearing those black pledge bird mask outfits. Not sure if it’ll go mainstream, but I wouldn’t be surprised if some buzzard fashion starts happening

Plague doctor masks you man? They probably should!  :o

Yeah the culture is dystopian. Even some of the songs released in 2019 that got popular in early 2020 have that dark, depressing, dystopian sound and vibe to it like Billie Eilish's song. I just wonder why trap music is still around it's about time that starts fading away which I think it will.

Yes, but it won't be all sweetness and light either. I think it will be mixed with a sad or dark side from whatever negative impact the pandemic has, be it personal loss, economic woes, etc.


I think this year will turn out to be a sad one.

I think this year will turn out to be a sad one.


Yeap. Usually the Summer Olympics are supposed to be the happy and fun years, but lately it hasn't been the case. 2016 was pretty sad as well. Meanwhile, 2017-2019 all seemed to be good.

Yeah the culture is dystopian. Even some of the songs released in 2019 that got popular in early 2020 have that dark, depressing, dystopian sound and vibe to it like Billie Eilish's song. I just wonder why trap music is still around it's about time that starts fading away which I think it will.


I think trap is going through a phase that's reminiscent of the late 1980s/early 1990s era of hair metal as that genre became redundant and oversaturated by then.

Now there are a lot of creative trap elements in songs to keep the subgenre relevant, like Travis Scott's experimental trap, or Lil Nas X's country trap (which was part of the Yeehaw Agenda), but I think trap hit its peak in 2018, and plateaued in 2019.

It's only a matter of time until someone within another rap subgenre starts to come on to the scene and change the landscape.

What a horrible nightmarish year.

This is truly the decade from hell. The 2000s at least gave 1 year and a half before 9/11 and another 8 years before the recession (neither worse than the crisis now) instead of making a scene right away.

What a horrible nightmarish year.

This is truly the decade from hell. The 2000s at least gave 1 year and a half before 9/11 and another 8 years before the recession (neither worse than the crisis now) instead of making a scene right away.


I have a feeling this entire decade will be nonstop, one horrific event after another. Or maybe the first 3 months just gave a bad first impression.

The start of the mid 2010s isn’t old yet, but it will be before the year is over.

The start of the mid 2010s is already looking a little dated to me. Only slightly.

The start of the mid 2010s is already looking a little dated to me. Only slightly.


The whole 2018 to 2021 bridge will come to an end soon, especially when the next presidential term begins.

The whole 2018 to 2021 bridge will come to an end soon, especially when the next presidential term begins.

Yeah and 2013 to me now looking back truly does feel like "a different time".

Or maybe the first 3 months just gave a bad first impression.


I wouldn't count on it: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/doj-suspend-constitutional-rights-coronavirus-970935/

Yeap. Usually the Summer Olympics are supposed to be the happy and fun years, but lately it hasn't been the case. 2016 was pretty sad as well. Meanwhile, 2017-2019 all seemed to be good.


Maybe it's the virus that's making people more upset than usual.

Yeah and 2013 to me now looking back truly does feel like "a different time".


I agree. And I realize how our rose-colored glasses cloud our memories, but this pandemic just accelerated the 2010s to be even more idyllic, back when we didn't have a virus pandemic.

The good old "back in my day" effect. It never stops.  ::)

Yeah and 2013 to me now looking back truly does feel like "a different time".


It's pretty bad if I start to think of 2013 and 2014 as a better time. I remember waking every single morning knowing my day was going to be miserable. At least now I like the working from home part. It's just that feeling of uncertainty about the future and worrying about supplies.

Yeap. Usually the Summer Olympics are supposed to be the happy and fun years, but lately it hasn't been the case. 2016 was pretty sad as well. Meanwhile, 2017-2019 all seemed to be good.
If this can be any comforting, they will probably get cancelled and reported to next year.

If this can be any comforting, they will probably get cancelled and reported to next year.


Welp, seems likely:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/international-olympic-committee-considers-postponing-tokyo-games-11584904096

I truly believe this uncertain, chaotic time is God judging the world, specifically America, and the only way for things to get better is if we all come to Jesus and have a relationship with him (Read 2 Chronicles 7:13-14). I also think that God is exposing who is real and who is fake. Basically, shedding light on people’s true intentions.

In times of crisis and uncertainty, people turn to God for guidance. That's why I've been listening to Carly Rae Jepsen.

In times of crisis and uncertainty, people turn to God for guidance. That's why I've been listening to Carly Rae Jepsen.


All right, even as an atheist, I laughed at that.  ;D

In times of crisis and uncertainty, people turn to God for guidance. That's why I've been listening to Carly Rae Jepsen.
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In times of crisis and uncertainty, people turn to God for guidance. That's why I've been listening to Carly Rae Jepsen.



Why do you listen to her?

She has catchy songs?

So rather than the COVID-19 pandemic changing the culture, it seems that culture took a pause altogether. I'm not sure if artists are even recording music now, and movies are getting delayed. Meanwhile, Dua Lipa's new album release date got moved up a week early to March 27.

So rather than the COVID-19 pandemic changing the culture, it seems that culture took a pause altogether. I'm not sure if artists are even recording music now, and movies are getting delayed. Meanwhile, Dua Lipa's new album release date got moved up a week early to March 27.


Oh, I didn't even realize that.  ;D

Btw, After Hours by The Weeknd is GREAT.

Everything is starting late culturally in this year because of COVID-19.  >:(

Everything is starting late culturally in this year because of COVID-19.  >:(
More curtailed than starting late.

I think bits and pieces of the late 2010s culture may last up until 2023-2024 depending on how things go.

I can see it now: years from now, kids who grew up in the early 2020s are gonna say "Everyone knows the 2010s didn't end until 2024." But people who were teens/adults at the time will say "Nope, the 2010s ended at the COVID-19 pandemic, everything changed overnight when that happened."

For me it depends on how much COVID-19 will change amongst our society after this pandemic is over... It will be easier for me to look back in retrospect and see the cultural divisions by that point. Culturally the 2010’s influence may proceed up until 2023. The third year of the decade is always transitional.

Look around you people, the 2020s culture has begun in earnest as a result of the virus. The virus didn't delay the coming culture, it created it. Some of you may not be able to see the forest for the trees. Don't wait to see what comes AFTER the virus goes, it's already happening. Famous musicians broadcasting concerts alone from their homes, TV and news shows being broadcast from home with celebrities looking decidedly less glamorous without all their makeup and lighting people... People finding different ways to do things. All of this IS the culture and it will have lingering effects as well. The 2020s begins here.

Look around you people, the 2020s culture has begun in earnest as a result of the virus. The virus didn't delay the coming culture, it created it. Some of you may not be able to see the forest for the trees. Don't wait to see what comes AFTER the virus goes, it's already happening. Famous musicians broadcasting concerts alone from their homes, TV and news shows being broadcast from home with celebrities looking decidedly less glamorous without all their makeup and lighting people... People finding different ways to do things. All of this IS the culture and it will have lingering effects as well. The 2020s begins here.


My goodness, that scares me tbh.

Look around you people, the 2020s culture has begun in earnest as a result of the virus. The virus didn't delay the coming culture, it created it. Some of you may not be able to see the forest for the trees. Don't wait to see what comes AFTER the virus goes, it's already happening. Famous musicians broadcasting concerts alone from their homes, TV and news shows being broadcast from home with celebrities looking decidedly less glamorous without all their makeup and lighting people... People finding different ways to do things. All of this IS the culture and it will have lingering effects as well. The 2020s begins here.

Exactly. 2020s culture is already here. It started right on time.

Exactly. 2020s culture is already here. It started right on time.



I don't see any culture.

The cultures are developing well in the Petri Dishes in the research for the vaccine for Covid-19.

The cultures are developing well in the Petri Dishes in the research for the vaccine for Covid-19.
Hahahaha

The cultures are developing well in the Petri Dishes in the research for the vaccine for Covid-19.


HAHAHA...

The cultures are developing well in the Petri Dishes in the research for the vaccine for Covid-19.

All right, that was a good one.

But I don't think life will return to normal again. The pre-Corona world is pretty much over.

I don't see any culture.

THIS is the culture of the 2020s. The 2020s will be remembered for the corona virus. It's not gonna be the same after this I don't know why people keep denying this, we've already entered into 2020s culture. Look at the post above mine and they explain why in detail I don't need to repeat what they said.

THIS is 2020s culture. Celebrities literally doing music videos in their house wearing masks. We are in 2020s culture right now folks whether one likes it or not. I don't know how so many people are blind to it. This isn't gonna be an easy recovery like nothing ever happened... The economy has already crashed, you'll feel the effects of this for the entire decade.

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THIS is 2020s culture. Celebrities literally doing music videos in their house wearing masks. We are in 2020s culture right now folks whether one likes it or not. I don't know how so many people are blind to it. This isn't gonna be an easy recovery like nothing ever happened... The economy has already crashed, you'll feel the effects of this for the entire decade.


Correct! The culture has arrived and is here. A tipping point has come. Things are being cemented now that will be considered normal from here on. Other things that were on their last legs and just lingering on will not recover and will be swept out. This is a far bigger tipping point that September 11. This might be the biggest one since the assassination of JFK from which sprung the cultural 60s.

All right, that was a good one.

But I don't think life will return to normal again. The pre-Corona world is pretty much over.


Will some life at least return to normal? ???

All right, that was a good one.

But I don't think life will return to normal again. The pre-Corona world is pretty much over.


Reminds me of the Birdbox, except you have to wear face masks when you leave the house instead of blindfolds.


THIS is 2020s culture. Celebrities literally doing music videos in their house wearing masks. We are in 2020s culture right now folks whether one likes it or not. I don't know how so many people are blind to it. This isn't gonna be an easy recovery like nothing ever happened... The economy has already crashed, you'll feel the effects of this for the entire decade.

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I think it's denial more than anything, and whether the word to describe it is "culture" or more like lifestyle. I don't think anyone likes it, and maybe now people want to hold on to the late 10's culture so they can be reminded of the time when things were better.

Will some life at least return to normal? ???


Don’t worry Howard I’m pretty sure/hoping life will return to normal once everything runs it’s course. Things will probably get worse before they get better. But we are humans and social creatures who are pretty much programmed to interact, talk, communicate and socialize despite being introverted or having social anxiety. I don’t think this pandemic can ever undo that and eventually we are gonna have to come into contact with more people and go back to living our normal lives again... I think some people may over exaggerate the post effects of our life after this bc they probably want to tell the next generation how life was before Coronavirus. I do think there will be moderate changes but nothing substantial. This decade is going to be all about recovery I assume.

Look around you people, the 2020s culture has begun in earnest as a result of the virus. The virus didn't delay the coming culture, it created it. Some of you may not be able to see the forest for the trees. Don't wait to see what comes AFTER the virus goes, it's already happening. Famous musicians broadcasting concerts alone from their homes, TV and news shows being broadcast from home with celebrities looking decidedly less glamorous without all their makeup and lighting people... People finding different ways to do things. All of this IS the culture and it will have lingering effects as well. The 2020s begins here.


Bingo. I don't think life will "return to normal" after this; I think we are determining now what the new normal will be. I don't think everyone is going to just stay isolated forever, but I think movie theaters are history - this trend was already well underway before people started taking the virus seriously, but now with many new releases being distributed straight to streaming services, we really see how unnecessary the in-person theater experience is and I think people will not be frequent moviegoers in the same way ever again. I foresee this causing a feedback loop of movie theaters closing, making the in-theater experience less available to people than ever before, even to those who are regular moviegoers, and that scarcity will drive down the frequency of theater nights even more, pushing the closures further.

I also think restaurants are going to take a significant hit. I know many of you are probably tired of all the home-cooked meals and long for the days of instant gratification, but I think many people, particularly Americans, are going to look at restaurant cooking and service with a great deal more caution going forward. Indeed, I think one of the ways the quarantine has changed me is that I have gained a much greater appreciation for a home-cooked meal over eating out, much as I do long for someone to serve a professionally cooked meal every now and then, rather than having to work at it for every meal of every day. Going out to a restaurant may become a special occasion again rather than a casual affair, much as it was before the postwar boom when going out to dine became more affordable and convenient, and therefore more commonplace. This too is likely to result in many restaurant closures, although my hope is that this will hit the big chains more than the smaller family-owned restaurants.

Finally, one thing we are already seeing in real time - again, at least in the U.S. - is a growing resentment of celebrity culture (link). Sheltering in place within a Beverly Hills estate is quite a different thing than doing the same thing from a cramped Manhattan studio apartment, and with ordinary people feeling the pain of this virus - including not having access to testing and treatment, whereas celebrities will never want for easier access - there is already a growing dissonance between the unifying messages put out by America's aristocracy and the harsh economic realities that set them apart from us average working stiffs. We are already seeing a rather public rebuke of that messaging from celebrities, but I would anticipate that even when this crisis is over, people may step away from celebrity worship, because the crisis has already laid bare the reality that they are richer than us but it doesn't make them better than us. I think people are going to increasingly resent that wealth and celebrity, actually. Whether this manifests in a merely cultural response or expands to the political realm, I cannot predict.

But as I said and others have said, I think the virus is going to be more significant to the overarching trends of the entire decade than people realize.

Bingo. I don't think life will "return to normal" after this; I think we are determining now what the new normal will be. I don't think everyone is going to just stay isolated forever, but I think movie theaters are history - this trend was already well underway before people started taking the virus seriously, but now with many new releases being distributed straight to streaming services, we really see how unnecessary the in-person theater experience is and I think people will not be frequent moviegoers in the same way ever again. I foresee this causing a feedback loop of movie theaters closing, making the in-theater experience less available to people than ever before, even to those who are regular moviegoers, and that scarcity will drive down the frequency of theater nights even more, pushing the closures further.

I also think restaurants are going to take a significant hit. I know many of you are probably tired of all the home-cooked meals and long for the days of instant gratification, but I think many people, particularly Americans, are going to look at restaurant cooking and service with a great deal more caution going forward. Indeed, I think one of the ways the quarantine has changed me is that I have gained a much greater appreciation for a home-cooked meal over eating out, much as I do long for someone to serve a professionally cooked meal every now and then, rather than having to work at it for every meal of every day. Going out to a restaurant may become a special occasion again rather than a casual affair, much as it was before the postwar boom when going out to dine became more affordable and convenient, and therefore more commonplace. This too is likely to result in many restaurant closures, although my hope is that this will hit the big chains more than the smaller family-owned restaurants.

Finally, one thing we are already seeing in real time - again, at least in the U.S. - is a growing resentment of celebrity culture (link). Sheltering in place within a Beverly Hills estate is quite a different thing than doing the same thing from a cramped Manhattan studio apartment, and with ordinary people feeling the pain of this virus - including not having access to testing and treatment, whereas celebrities will never want for easier access - there is already a growing dissonance between the unifying messages put out by America's aristocracy and the harsh economic realities that set them apart from us average working stiffs. We are already seeing a rather public rebuke of that messaging from celebrities, but I would anticipate that even when this crisis is over, people may step away from celebrity worship, because the crisis has already laid bare the reality that they are richer than us but it doesn't make them better than us. I think people are going to increasingly resent that wealth and celebrity, actually. Whether this manifests in a merely cultural response or expands to the political realm, I cannot predict.

But as I said and others have said, I think the virus is going to be more significant to the overarching trends of the entire decade than people realize.


I agree. I think the theater industry is in jeopardy, because I don't think people, at least after the pandemic's over, would want to be in a cramped-in crowd due to fear of spreading a virus. But celebrity culture will still survive because young people usually have a innate desire to look up to someone they adore or idolize. I don't think they'll be heavily worshipped, though.

Bingo. I don't think life will "return to normal" after this; I think we are determining now what the new normal will be. I don't think everyone is going to just stay isolated forever, but I think movie theaters are history - this trend was already well underway before people started taking the virus seriously, but now with many new releases being distributed straight to streaming services, we really see how unnecessary the in-person theater experience is and I think people will not be frequent moviegoers in the same way ever again. I foresee this causing a feedback loop of movie theaters closing, making the in-theater experience less available to people than ever before, even to those who are regular moviegoers, and that scarcity will drive down the frequency of theater nights even more, pushing the closures further.

Movie drive-ins can make a comeback if that's the case. Because people still want that "experience" of going out to see a new movie. It would be like the old days all over again haha.

Movie drive-ins can make a comeback if that's the case. Because people still want that "experience" of going out to see a new movie. It would be like the old days all over again haha.


Do they though? Most people seem to only complain about the movie theater experience, and appear to prefer the home viewing experience by far.

Do they though? Most people seem to only complain about the movie theater experience, and appear to prefer the home viewing experience by far.

I think going to the movies is fun personally. Although it can get very expensive. Waiting for a movie to come then finally getting to see it makes it feel like an important event. Just turning on your TV and watching is boring and it isn't special, no experience there.

I think going to the movies is fun personally. Although it can get very expensive. Waiting for a movie to come then finally getting to see it makes it feel like an important event. Just turning on your TV and watching is boring and it isn't special, no experience there.


I like theatres too. I don't order the overpriced food so it never hurt my wallet.

Ideally my friends would come over to my house to watch a movie because I like talking during a movie, but that doesn't happen 99% of the time, so theatres is the next best thing. I ain't watching a movie alone, that would be extremely boring.

I like theatres too. I don't order the overpriced food so it never hurt my wallet.

Ideally my friends would come over to my house to watch a movie because I like talking during a movie, but that doesn't happen 99% of the time, so theatres is the next best thing. I ain't watching a movie alone, that would be extremely boring.


Let's just hope that the theater chain still survives through this crisis, despite movies now being released digitally (like Trolls: World Tour and Onward).

Movie drive-ins can make a comeback if that's the case. Because people still want that "experience" of going out to see a new movie. It would be like the old days all over again haha.



Or just view films from your own house.

I think going to the movies is fun personally. Although it can get very expensive. Waiting for a movie to come then finally getting to see it makes it feel like an important event. Just turning on your TV and watching is boring and it isn't special, no experience there.


I used to go the movies but I don't do it anymore cause it got quite expensive and prices for a ticket have gone up.

I like theatres too. I don't order the overpriced food so it never hurt my wallet.

Ideally my friends would come over to my house to watch a movie because I like talking during a movie, but that doesn't happen 99% of the time, so theatres is the next best thing. I ain't watching a movie alone, that would be extremely boring.


You had the buttered popcorn, the boxes of candy and large amounts of soda which cost a lot.

I used to go the movies but I don't do it anymore cause it got quite expensive and prices for a ticket have gone up.
Going to the cinema was an event to do on a special day like a birthday, along with going for a meal in a good restaurant, now both are closed and each has to be done at home now. If it was not a cinema, it would see a live show at a theatre.

You had the buttered popcorn, the boxes of candy and large amounts of soda which cost a lot.
On one visit to a cinema I was thrown off popcorn for life, a sour and something sauce was offer with it for extra flavour, it was garshly to taste, sickly, and the popcorn itself tasted that it was standing around for some while. It put me off the film too.

On one visit to a cinema I was thrown off popcorn for life, a sour and something sauce was offer with it for extra flavour, it was garshly to taste, sickly, and the popcorn itself tasted that it was standing around for some while. It put me off the film too.



Did you get the butter flavored?

Did you get the butter flavored?
Before it would the ordinary but now. No way

It's not just that the movie theater experience is expensive, but it's simply not worth the price of admission. I hardly go to the movies anymore because there's usually nothing playing that I'm interested in, and if people aren't yakking through the film then they're waving their bright smartphone screens around 'cause they're bored which is annoying and distracting.

Plus there's nothing about the movie theater experience I can't already get from my home theater. It's just a matter of waiting a couple months.

It's not just that the movie theater experience is expensive, but it's simply not worth the price of admission. I hardly go to the movies anymore because there's usually nothing playing that I'm interested in, and if people aren't yakking through the film then they're waving their bright smartphone screens around 'cause they're bored which is annoying and distracting.

Plus there's nothing about the movie theater experience I can't already get from my home theater. It's just a matter of waiting a couple months.
For me, if I film has to be seen on a big screen, only on a big screen, where television cannot justify the glory, the film has to be seen on the big screen. This is what occurred with me for "1917" back in February, had to be seen for the technical quality and directorial work. As I saw the film at a 10am screening, I just had breakfast, no need for popcorn, etc, just a bottle of water, and there was only one other person in the audience. I struck up a conversation with him and he was German and spoke little English. Having seen the film that way, I will now watch iit on television

It's not just that the movie theater experience is expensive, but it's simply not worth the price of admission. I hardly go to the movies anymore because there's usually nothing playing that I'm interested in, and if people aren't yakking through the film then they're waving their bright smartphone screens around 'cause they're bored which is annoying and distracting.

Plus there's nothing about the movie theater experience I can't already get from my home theater. It's just a matter of waiting a couple months.


I like both options of home and movie theaters. But whenever there's a new movie out, I would prefer to watch it on the big screen, especially if it's a blockbuster like Infinity War or Joker. But if the theater industry were to sadly shut down due to the virus, then I wouldn't mind home viewing. It's better than nothing.

I like both options of home and movie theaters. But whenever there's a new movie out, I would prefer to watch it on the big screen, especially if it's a blockbuster like Infinity War or Joker. But if the theater industry were to sadly shut down due to the virus, then I wouldn't mind home viewing. It's better than nothing.

You sound just like me, if there is no other option, it is as long as I see the film I am happy.

It's not just that the movie theater experience is expensive, but it's simply not worth the price of admission. I hardly go to the movies anymore because there's usually nothing playing that I'm interested in, and if people aren't yakking through the film then they're waving their bright smartphone screens around 'cause they're bored which is annoying and distracting.

Plus there's nothing about the movie theater experience I can't already get from my home theater. It's just a matter of waiting a couple months.


Why bother when you can see a film for free.

Why bother when you can see a film for free.
After a few years films are shown on mainstream television, but it the film just released need to be paid for.

It really depends on how 2021/2022 are like. I think 2019 was sufficiently different from the rest of the decade: strong economy, fears of techno-dystopia, no terrorist/ISIS attacks, TikTok, baggier fashion (90s revival), eBoys/eGirls, AirPods, smartspeakers, Greta Thunberg/Extinction Rebellion, Billie Ellish, Lizzo etc. etc. etc.

The problem is, if 2021 or 2022 turns the world upside down, then 2019/2020 are going to retroactively look very 2010s. However, if they carry on and build on with these new trends, many will say the 2020s started in 2019 and how it was "obvious". ;D

There have also been many big events in 2020 itself with Brexit, YouTube enacting COPPA, and Coronavirus, and we're only 2 months in!

Well, since 2020 basically turned the world upside down, 2017/2018 already look extremely 2010's.  ;D

I see a lot of Coronavirus memes with Beverly Hills Housewives vs. Smudge the Cat, so that's a 2020 twist on something from 2019.

I think in the future people can make valid arguments for all that the '20s started early(2019), on time(2020), or late(2021). But really it started on time if we really take an honest look at it. The corona changed everything. Basically 2019 - 2021 will be looked back as a transition period towards the 2020s. The first corona case was actually in November of 2019 in China so that's why people can also argue different things started to change in 2019. I guess you saw some hints of it in music as well with Billie Eilish. But I'm just gonna go ahead and say even though we are currently in a transitional period, it really feels like 2020s culture started right on time honestly. It's 2020 now and already feels like a different decade because of the pandemic so it feels like it started on time. And I don't really know how long it will take to recover from all of this.

I think in the future people can make valid arguments for all that the '20s started early(2019), on time(2020), or late(2021). But really it started on time if we really take an honest look at it. The corona changed everything. Basically 2019 - 2021 will be looked back as a transition period towards the 2020s. The first corona case was actually in November of 2019 in China so that's why people can also argue different things started to change in 2019. I guess you saw some hints of it in music as well with Billie Eilish. But I'm just gonna go ahead and say even though we are currently in a transitional period, it really feels like 2020s culture started right on time honestly. It's 2020 now and already feels like a different decade because of the pandemic so it feels like it started on time. And I don't really know how long it will take to recover from all of this.


That's the part that concerns me: recovery and the repercussions.This is probably the most defining moment of the decade, similar to how the 2008-09 financial crisis created the political atmosphere of the 2010s with progressive movements like the Occupy movement.

Look around you people, the 2020s culture has begun in earnest as a result of the virus. The virus didn't delay the coming culture, it created it. Some of you may not be able to see the forest for the trees. Don't wait to see what comes AFTER the virus goes, it's already happening. Famous musicians broadcasting concerts alone from their homes, TV and news shows being broadcast from home with celebrities looking decidedly less glamorous without all their makeup and lighting people... People finding different ways to do things. All of this IS the culture and it will have lingering effects as well. The 2020s begins here.


Even tv commercials are different and hit differently. With the “we’re in the together “ mantra. Could you say that last year in 2019?  Stay at home orders? Social distancing? Last year , those vocabulary words wouldn’t collectively begin our lexicon. This Coronavirus things  is like 911 meets Global economic collapse  of 2008. All the news talk about is this damn virus and everywhere I go, I feel like I’m in Japan because of folks wearing surgical mask. So yeah, we ain’t in Kansas anymore or should I say, we’re not in the 2010’s anymore.

That's the part that concerns me: recovery and the repercussions.This is probably the most defining moment of the decade, similar to how the 2008-09 financial crisis created the political atmosphere of the 2010s with progressive movements like the Occupy movement.


Yeah, that's the part that concerns me too. The aftermath and recovery might be worse than the virus itself. At least in 2020 people were laughing at Coronavirus memes and posting dancing videos on TikTok. 2021 and beyond might look like The Purge. But maybe that's just my wild imagination. I also imagine Trump getting reelected and having total control over the United States. All houses will have surveillance cameras installed so people's faces can be monitored for expressing patriotism and happiness that Trump is their president or they will be arrested by the Thought Police.

Yeah, that's the part that concerns me too. The aftermath and recovery might be worse than the virus itself. At least in 2020 people were laughing at Coronavirus memes and posting dancing videos on TikTok. 2021 and beyond might look like The Purge. But maybe that's just my wild imagination. I also imagine Trump getting reelected and having total control over the United States. All houses will have surveillance cameras installed so people's faces can be monitored for expressing patriotism and happiness that Trump is their president or they will be arrested by the Thought Police.


I thought you were a Trump supporter. Is that the kind of world you want? :P ;D

I thought you were a Trump supporter. Is that the kind of world you want? :P ;D


I was never a Trump supporter. I mean I liked him the first few years but he's lost my vote. I wasn't going to vote at all this election but I'm actually planning to vote against him now, even if it's Biden.

Yeah, that's the part that concerns me too. The aftermath and recovery might be worse than the virus itself. At least in 2020 people were laughing at Coronavirus memes and posting dancing videos on TikTok. 2021 and beyond might look like The Purge. But maybe that's just my wild imagination. I also imagine Trump getting reelected and having total control over the United States. All houses will have surveillance cameras installed so people's faces can be monitored for expressing patriotism and happiness that Trump is their president or they will be arrested by the Thought Police.

Yeah, I really hope it's an outlandish imagination.

This is a photo from 2008. More 2000s:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/ydHIy_jYtKaUM6LCsjXFwJ1SW4cODk6yKblwSrXJLQGLAgzZUxy6thUMVAiibuafAL_12PtnGn80EhyFVf-Cv44-mSMT9yiP5hCg2KS8bW7G9KoM0GSz9_al_mi9hjE

This is a photo from 2017. More 2010s:
https://www.thedailyworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/web1_2017-Aberdeen-High-honors-feature.jpg

It's not that hard  ;)


Good god that 2017 picture is so 2010s, the colors scream Mid/Late 2010s even the galaxy print

Yeah, I really hope it's an outlandish imagination.


I think that's from 1984 when Winston pretended to be happy in front of the telescreen (where Big Brother watches you from) but would have his back turned towards it when he couldn't fake it.

I think that's from 1984 when Winston pretended to be happy in front of the telescreen (where Big Brother watches you from) but would have his back turned towards it when he couldn't fake it.


Someone got the reference. Anyhow, I can think of a variety of scenarios that could happen over the next few years that would make 2020 look like a walk in the park (as a lot of people did while social distancing).

Social distancing probably won't go away for a long while. The transition will be gradual. If restaurants open back up it will be limited seating. We are in the peak now in Canada according to many reports so the cases themselves will slowly go down. Bussiness will slowly open back up. But the implementations of social distancing will not go away for a while. Will the economy improve or will it get worse... That's still up in the air but I think it will get worse for a while. We'll see.

Social distancing probably won't go away for a long while. The transition will be gradual. If restaurants open back up it will be limited seating. We are in the peak now in Canada according to many reports so the cases themselves will slowly go down. Bussiness will slowly open back up. But the implementations of social distancing will not go away for a while. Will the economy improve or will it get worse... That's still up in the air but I think it will get worse for a while. We'll see.



So when do you think the world will open up again and enjoy life instead of staying at home like we've been doing as usual? I don't want this to be the "new normal" but for right now this is what it's going to be for everyone. I'd love to see buses be a bit crowded, people to walk the streets and places to open up again, I miss that feeling.

So when do you think the world will open up again and enjoy life instead of staying at home like we've been doing as usual? I don't want this to be the "new normal" but for right now this is what it's going to be for everyone. I'd love to see buses be a bit crowded, people to walk the streets and places to open up again, I miss that feeling.

I don't think it will for a while.

I don't think it will for a while.


But I do want my barber to hopefully open up.

But I do want my barber to hopefully open up.


Speaking of barbers, hair salons and barbershops are already open in Georgia thanks to Gov. Kemp's plan to reopen the economy. But here's the problem. Georgia didn't see a 2-week decline and only tested about 1% of the population. He violated the 3-phase plan of the White House.

Speaking of barbers, hair salons and barbershops are already open in Georgia thanks to Gov. Kemp's plan to reopen the economy. But here's the problem. Georgia didn't see a 2-week decline and only tested about 1% of the population. He violated the 3-phase plan of the White House.


But when did they say about NYC barbers/salons?

Social distancing probably won't go away for a long while. The transition will be gradual. If restaurants open back up it will be limited seating. We are in the peak now in Canada according to many reports so the cases themselves will slowly go down. Bussiness will slowly open back up. But the implementations of social distancing will not go away for a while. Will the economy improve or will it get worse... That's still up in the air but I think it will get worse for a while. We'll see.


I hope the lockdown isn't lifted until the disease is contained. Past the peak is not good enough.

I hope the lockdown isn't lifted until the disease is contained. Past the peak is not good enough.
Even when that day arrives, being at an at risk category, I will be wary of going out as much I did as previous.

I hope the lockdown isn't lifted until the disease is contained. Past the peak is not good enough.



And when will be the time to stop wearing masks altogether? ???

The early 2020s started almost right on time but a little early in late 2019, I can see it now and I hope others see it too. We are actually fully immersed in early 2020s culture right now as we speak. And except for the horrible corona virus and dark aspects around it, I quite like the pop culture we have right now for the most part. Didn't feel that way since mid 2017 but the mainstream music that's being released is quite good now. And my mental health has been improving this year as well despite all that's going on which is why I kind of like 2020 oddly enough lol but I know it's very serious and tragic given all the deaths that are occurring.

Even when that day arrives, being at an at risk category, I will be wary of going out as much I did as previous.


I hope with enough testing it will be like South Korea/Taiwan where most people aren't worried about getting sick.

I hope with enough testing it will be like South Korea/Taiwan where most people aren't worried about getting sick.


I think New York is worried about getting sick.

I hope with enough testing it will be like South Korea/Taiwan where most people aren't worried about getting sick.


With a Harvard study saying that the U.S. needs to test over 20 MILLION people per day, I'm not sure that will happen for a while. The only thing that's gonna save us now is staying at home and going out for essential things until an effective vaccine arrives.

Even Spain and Italy are doing well now. Their case numbers have plateaued and they're set to reopen some parts of their country in early May. I don't think that's gonna happen with us if testing is still inadequate.

With a Harvard study saying that the U.S. needs to test over 20 MILLION people per day, I'm not sure that will happen for a while. The only thing that's gonna save us now is staying at home and going out for essential things until an effective vaccine arrives.

Even Spain and Italy are doing well now. Their case numbers have plateaued and they're set to reopen some parts of their country in early May. I don't think that's gonna happen with us if testing is still inadequate.


20 million would be quite insane and would mean everyone in the entire country needs to get tested every 15 days or so, so I am curious at how that study arrived at that number. Maybe they are projecting cheaper and more accessible testing. I always thought home testing kits would pretty much eradicate this disease faster than a vaccine.

20 million would be quite insane and would mean everyone in the entire country needs to get tested every 15 days or so, so I am curious at how that study arrived at that number. Maybe they are projecting cheaper and more accessible testing. I always thought home testing kits would pretty much eradicate this disease faster than a vaccine.


Harvard is saying that by mid-July, that we need to have the capacity to do 20 million tests per day in order to "remobilize the economy".

We already did 200,000 tests two days ago, so hopefully, we'll dramatically ramp up testing capacity.