Originally born in 2019 on TikTok, ”Eboys, Egirls” and “Soft boys, soft girls” are the first subcultures in becoming a trend in this decade.

On one side, “eboys/egirls” are the GenZ resurgence of the 2000’s Emo trend, but adapted to the current social media culture, they tend to include “Trap Metal” and “Lil Peep” to their tastes.

While “soft boys/girls” follow the aesthetics of the indie bands of the late 2010’s and they tend to look cute with feminine bright colors. Among their musical tastes you can find lo-fi and artists like Clairo.

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What is happening to humanity? That video is creepy as hell. Made me ill watching it.  I don’t understand these young generations. It’s a strange synthetic world they live in.  What the hell.

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I'm hesitant to call it a 2020s subculture given that it started in the late 2010s. That would be like calling scene kids a 2010s subculture because it lasted a couple years into the '10s, even though it started in the late '00s.

Let's see how long this trend lasts.

Not gender non-conforming enough. I doubt the music sounds good and even if it did, I won't be able to even keep it.

I really don’t understand this E-boy/girl stuff.

I'm hesitant to call it a 2020s subculture given that it started in the late 2010s. That would be like calling scene kids a 2010s subculture because it lasted a couple years into the '10s, even though it started in the late '00s.

Let's see how long this trend lasts.


I mean, hipsters became popular around 2008, but it’s more representative of the 2010s. I understand your point though

Those subcultures are very Gen Z.

I don't know what soft boy/girl is, but eboy/egirl I am cool with. What happened to VSCO girl?

I always hated TikTok, and that video proves it.  8-P

I don't know what soft boy/girl is, but eboy/egirl I am cool with. What happened to VSCO girl?


The VSCO girl subculture is pretty much dead because some elements of it were so quickly absorbed by mainstream Gen Z. However, I think the VSCO app is slowly becoming what Tumblr was in the early 2010s.

I always hated TikTok, and that video proves it.  8-P
I am not watching the video, but can someone explain what TikTok is?

I hate that subcultures now revolve entirely around apps and I won’t pretend to understand what these are all about or that I like it. However, it’s not my place and I won’t be an old man griping about the kids these days. As long as they aren’t harming anyone or doing any ills to society at large, I won’t cast an aspersion at them, not a one.

What is happening to humanity? That video is creepy as hell. Made me ill watching it.  I don’t understand these young generations. It’s a strange synthetic world they live in.  What the hell.


I found it weird being that of an older generation myself.

I am not watching the video, but can someone explain what TikTok is?

A social media app mostly inhabited by teenagers which enables them to record around 15-second videos. Common videos are people doing lip-syncing videos/duets or comedy skits. They're usually cringey imo.

I found it weird being that of an older generation myself.


They're just having fun with their looks.

A social media app mostly inhabited by teenagers which enables them to record around 15-second videos. Common videos are people doing lip-syncing videos/duets or comedy skits. They're usually cringey imo.
Taking into account a short attention span?

Taking into account a short attention span?
That and the fact that it seems to use AI a lot to recommend videos too. One video simply plays after another, to alleviate users from having to choose the content, where they can swipe left at stuff they don't like and the AI learns from that. I prefer to avoid having to watch things in the first place.

My big issue with TikTok really comes from the fact that it's from a country that arrests political dissidents. It's also I guess from the 2010s so I probably wouldn't like it even if it didn't come from China (also part of why I avoid Instagram too, even though it comes from the US, and even if it weren't owned by Facebook), so it will have the stuff I hate from the 2010s regarding aesthetic, slang and pop culture.
TikTok has also banned pro-LGBT content for some weird reason and has gone overboard with censoring other content too.

That and the fact that it seems to use AI a lot to recommend videos too. One video simply plays after another, to alleviate users from having to choose the content, where they can swipe left at stuff they don't like and the AI learns from that. I prefer to avoid having to watch things in the first place.

My big issue with TikTok really comes from the fact that it's from a country that arrests political dissidents. It's also I guess from the 2010s so I probably wouldn't like it even if it didn't come from China (also part of why I avoid Instagram too, even though it comes from the US, and even if it weren't owned by Facebook), so it will have the stuff I hate from the 2010s regarding aesthetic, slang and pop culture.
TikTok has also banned pro-LGBT content for some weird reason and has gone overboard with censoring other content too.

Thank you for the info, certainly one to avoid?

Thank you for the info, certainly one to avoid?
Yes.

Thank you for the info, certainly one to avoid?


I'm not touching it. I heard it's super addictive and that's the last thing I need in my life right now.

I'm not touching it. I heard it's super addictive and that's the last thing I need in my life right now.
Yeah, the AI makes it so.

They're just having fun with their looks.


Why should they care about their looks?  ::)

Why should they care about their looks?  ::)


Who doesn’t? That’s stupid.

Who doesn’t? That’s stupid.


I don’t. That’s shallow.

I don’t. That’s shallow.


Kids use their looks as a form of self-expression. That's why they're latching onto terms like  "soft girl"/"soft boy" in the first place.

Everyone cares about how they look. It’s human nature. We’re visual animals.

VSCO/E/Soft Girls/Boys are all very 2019 stuff to me. I can't see these trends going forward into the next years, like how fidget spinners are completely unique to 2017 ;D

VSCO girls are the only of the three that would be a perfectly casual look, but it's also very gimmicky with the way they should speak for some reason?

E-girls remind me of those Harlequin costumes that were huge circa 2016/17 following Suicide Squad's popularity.

Soft girls are aping Japanese fashion standards, but can't say I dislike the cutesiness :p

Kids use their looks as a form of self-expression. That's why they're latching onto terms like  "soft girl"/"soft boy" in the first place.


Well exactly though - why should they care about how someone judges their self-expression? That's stupid. Whatever look they want, even if someone thinks it looks ugly or natty, is fine by me, even if I don't personally like it.

Everyone cares about how they look. It’s human nature. We’re visual animals.


I care about how I look.

Originally born in 2019 on TikTok, ”Eboys, Egirls” and “Soft boys, soft girls” are the first subcultures in becoming a trend in this decade.

On one side, “eboys/egirls” are the GenZ resurgence of the 2000’s Emo trend, but adapted to the current social media culture, they tend to include “Trap Metal” and “Lil Peep” to their tastes.



Ehhhh, i prefer 2000s Emo culture. I love Trap metal and Lil Peep a lot but the e-boys, e-girls thing is just a discount version of the Emo trend and a lot of people are fake-depressed on Tik Tok for that specific trend. One of the things that angers me the most is the amount of people that got into Lil Peep after his death claiming that they were there since the beginning. Pathetic.

Ehhhh, i prefer 2000s Emo culture. I love Trap metal and Lil Peep a lot but the e-boys, e-girls thing is just a discount version of the Emo trend and a lot of people are fake-depressed on Tik Tok for that specific trend. One of the things that angers me the most is the amount of people that got into Lil Peep after his death claiming that they were there since the beginning. Pathetic.
Same here, although I'll give a little leeway into the early 2010s since that's how I got into it.

Same here, although I'll give a little leeway into the early 2010s since that's how I got into it.


Fair enough. That was the golden age for scene boys and scene girls.

I'll give a little leeway into the early 2010s since that's how I got into it.


It sometimes unnerves me to think of the number of similarities between the two of us.

It sometimes unnerves me to think of the number of similarities between the two of us.


I've noticed it too ;D

I honestly don't get why everyone is trashing on this. Yeah it's cringy, teenage culture from every decade is cringy, especially if you didn't grow up with it. I think the style is cute. I know if I were 14 now I'd probably be doing the same thing. When I was 14 I was attention-whoring on tumblr instead. Don't know why this seems so weird to people  ::)

Ehhhh, i prefer 2000s Emo culture. I love Trap metal and Lil Peep a lot but the e-boys, e-girls thing is just a discount version of the Emo trend and a lot of people are fake-depressed on Tik Tok for that specific trend. One of the things that angers me the most is the amount of people that got into Lil Peep after his death claiming that they were there since the beginning. Pathetic.



Eh, emo itself is an evolution of goth which was an evolution of death metal which was an evolution of hardcore punk etc. I remember a more knowledgeable user here showing me a picture of an "emo" from 1993 complete with skinny jeans ;D

In short, eboy is different enough from emo that it can carry on the torch.

Eh, emo itself is an evolution of goth which was an evolution of death metal which was an evolution of hardcore punk etc. I remember a more knowledgeable user here showing me a picture of an "emo" from 1993 complete with skinny jeans ;D

In short, eboy is different enough from emo that it can carry on the torch.


I wouldn’t call it an evolution. I don’t mind you thinking that because i know what you are getting at but people would bite you for saying that. They have their similarities but all of them have different characteristics. You can not really compare them.

The only reason why i think E-boy/girl is a downgrade is because kids are not really going crazy with it like Goths, Scenes, and Emo kids did in the past. They are playing it safe in terms of fashion. I would not call it cringy but what i enjoyed about the past was the pure self-expression with make-up, hair, clothes, etc. It was rebellious and going againsts the norms.

Is trap metal an actual genre?

I liked Ausländer by Rammstein but I didn't know there were other songs like it

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I honestly don't get why everyone is trashing on this. Yeah it's cringy, teenage culture from every decade is cringy, especially if you didn't grow up with it. I think the style is cute. I know if I were 14 now I'd probably be doing the same thing. When I was 14 I was attention-whoring on tumblr instead. Don't know why this seems so weird to people  ::)


I agree. Just let the new generation do their thing.

It would be nice for them to expand their music tastes tho. Their hasn't been a legit counter culture for a while and I think music is a huge factor behind that.

I honestly don't get why everyone is trashing on this. Yeah it's cringy, teenage culture from every decade is cringy, especially if you didn't grow up with it. I think the style is cute. I know if I were 14 now I'd probably be doing the same thing. When I was 14 I was attention-whoring on tumblr instead. Don't know why this seems so weird to people  ::)

Apparently they're supposed to be love magnets to young girls with their perceived "cute looks". If both boys and girls are into this e-crap, then fine, but it's not my cup of tea.

Apparently they're supposed to be love magnets to young girls with their perceived "cute looks". If both boys and girls are into this e-crap, then fine, but it's not my cup of tea.
Love magnets are not love handles?  ;D

Is trap metal an actual genre?

I liked Ausländer by Rammstein but I didn't know there were other songs like it

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Trap metal is an actual genre, yeah. Listen to Scarlxrd, City Morgue, and BVDLVD.

It sometimes unnerves me to think of the number of similarities between the two of us.


Ewwww.

I want a soft boy