2013-2014 is the shift from the early to mid 10s. 2013 wasn't really that big of a shift besides the latter third it was mostly just your average year. Even some of the changes in 2013 brought weren't fully normalised until early-mid 2014. Like for example 8th gen consoles coming out winter 2013, huge reach no one had it back then and the vast majority of games were on 7th gen.

What can cause a shift to be overblown?

What specifically constitutes the "school year"? I thought we already established that "school year", aside from being somewhat a somewhat  juvenile conceit, isn't a valid indicator of the movement of culture. Are people not in school also affected by the alleged changes of the "school year"? It's just TOO subjective and too narrow. 

Also, some of us are struggling with the meaning of "Even some of the changes in 2013 brought weren't fully normalised until early-mid 2014. Like for example 8th gen consoles coming out winter 2013, huge reach no one had it back then and the vast majority of games were on 7th gen". It is somewhat garbled and we are not sure what you are trying to say.

2013-2014 is the shift from the early to mid 10s. 2013 wasn't really that big of a shift besides the latter third it was mostly just your average year. Even some of the changes in 2013 brought weren't fully normalised until early-mid 2014. Like for example 8th gen consoles coming out winter 2013, huge reach no one had it back then and the vast majority of games were on 7th gen.

What happens if you were not school for the 2013-2014 school year?

What happens if you were not school for the 2013-2014 school year?


That's what I just asked. Answer presumably forthcoming.

What specifically constitutes the "school year"? I thought we already established that "school year", aside from being somewhat a somewhat  juvenile conceit, isn't a valid indicator of the movement of culture. Are people not in school also affected by the alleged changes of the "school year"? It's just TOO subjective and too narrow. 

Also, some of us are struggling with the meaning of "Even some of the changes in 2013 brought weren't fully normalised until early-mid 2014. Like for example 8th gen consoles coming out winter 2013, huge reach no one had it back then and the vast majority of games were on 7th gen". It is somewhat garbled and we are not sure what you are trying to say.


No offense but if you're going to comment could you try to contribute to the discussion rather than constantly pick it apart. I really mean no offense but this is a pattern I notice with you.

What happens if you were not school for the 2013-2014 school year?


It means September of one year to around June of the following year.

No offense but if you're going to comment could you try to contribute to the discussion rather than constantly pick it apart. I really mean no offense but this is a pattern I notice with you.


No offense taken. But an intelligent discussion cannot ensue if the original premise is flawed. Or until we can understand the premise if it is not expressed coherently.

It means September of one year to around June of the following year.
Wherever if you were at school or not?

Wherever if you were at school or not?


That's what I'm trying to find out.

It means September of one year to around June of the following year.


Again, a reason why "school year" cannot be acurately used for cultural measurement:

‘Back to school’ means anytime from late July to after Labor Day, depending on where in the U.S. you live

www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/08/14/back-to-school-dates-u-s/

Excerpts:

It’s the second full week of August, which means millions of American schoolkids are heading back to school or have already started. And depending on where you live, that statement might produce a reaction of either “That sounds about right” or “That seems way too early!”

Back-to-school dates in the United States, it turns out, vary considerably by state and region, based on our analysis of a sampling of the nation’s 13,000-plus public school districts. By the end of this week, for example, nearly all elementary and secondary school students in the East South Central region – a Census Bureau division that includes Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi and Tennessee – will be back in school. But not a single district in the nine New England and Middle Atlantic states will resume classes before Aug. 26, and many wait until after Labor Day.

It means September of one year to around June of the following year.
Here is the UK the school year finishes in July, June is that busy month for examinations.

ENOUGH WITH THESE SHIFT THREADS!!!

Any new ones will be locked or deleted!


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No offense but if you're going to comment could you try to contribute to the discussion rather than constantly pick it apart. I really mean no offense but this is a pattern I notice with you.


Voice, along with many others here, is keen to engage in a debate/discussion if a topic can be understood. However in most (all?) of these topics what the “shift” is is never clarified. Is it the type of music? Political shift left or right? What is the shift you feel happened in 2013-14?

Voice, along with many others here, is keen to engage in a debate/discussion if a topic can be understood. However in most (all?) of these topics what the “shift” is is never clarified. Is it the type of music? Political shift left or right? What is the shift you feel happened in 2013-14?


Correct. Especially since it all seems to be so fluid, depending on the whims of the poster and what they are hoping to have confirmed from their personal experience. The OP of this topic even stated in another thread that he uses the words "shift and "transition" interchangeably!

www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=64263.msg4122102#msg4122102

What is extremely clear is that, by definition, a "shift" and a "transition" are NOT the same thing. If anything, a "shift" would be the RESULT of a transition.

2013-2014 is the shift from the early to mid 10s. 2013 wasn't really that big of a shift besides the latter third it was mostly just your average year. Even some of the changes in 2013 brought weren't fully normalised until early-mid 2014. Like for example 8th gen consoles coming out winter 2013, huge reach no one had it back then and the vast majority of games were on 7th gen.


I would definitely consider 2013 to be the border between early and mid-10s. Where exactly the shift occurred is up for speculation and is hard to determine, but I'd say we were in the mid-10s for sure by early to mid 2014 as you said.