Seriously, 11 years apart seems like a long time to some of you ?

For some reason I didn’t really see the 90s as super old back in the early 2010s, it felt like the not so distant past considering only 1990 was 20 years ago in 2010. It’s like the early portion of the decade seemed a little dated but the late portion was still influencing the early 2010s since we had celebs like JLO and Britney still making music.

What do you guys think ?

But now it’s 2020 and every year of the 90s looks classic, even the young and more hip 1999 with all its boy bands, apple computers and so-called life changing internet explosion seems old as hell. The stars of the 90s have faded or are playing parents/grown adults now and that’s what makes it nostalgic for me since you have be a certain age to remember that year very well. Something a lot of us even in our 20s can’t. Me being born 1998 somehow feels more mesmerized for the late 90s over the 2000s and 2010s since I can remember it like the back of my hand and can’t comprehend all the cheesy(bordering on corny) nostalgic memes made on a daily on here as if the late 2000s and early 2010s is a by gone era when people who grew up in it are still young and still kinda look the same more or less in a sense that they haven’t aged a lot yet.

The 90s on the other hand just looking at pictures of it now give me an impression of how different life was back then. Different beauty standards, aesthetics, fashion(no I don’t consider all these throw back clothes authentic just modernized for the war were in now) and events.

While 11 years to me might isn’t current it’s most definitely not long enough to feel a crazy difference like 20 or even 30 years does which is the age range the 90s span now.

As you get older the years fly by faster. Wait till you’re my age. Every time a week passes it feels like yesterday. Same with all us long timers at work. We say reference this job we did a few years ago. Always turns out to be more like around 7 years ago.

As you get older the years fly by faster. Wait till you’re my age. Every time a week passes it feels like yesterday. Same with all us long timers at work. We say reference this job we did a few years ago. Always turns out to be more like around 7 years ago.


That’s pretty much what I feel will happen when I’m in my 40s by then

As you get older the years fly by faster. Wait till you’re my age. Every time a week passes it feels like yesterday. Same with all us long timers at work. We say reference this job we did a few years ago. Always turns out to be more like around 7 years ago.
...just wait till you get to my age... ?

I still can’t believe 2009 was 11 years ago. It seems pretty darn recent tbh. I think what makes 1999 feel distant compared to 2010 is the amount of technology and political change we went through in such a short time.

Sure, JLo and Britney Spears were still making songs in the early 2010s but they were like night and day compared to their 1999 material. The internet was still primitive and social media wasn't a thing in 1999. People communicated on Messenger apps and emails. Most people took photos with analog cameras and mobile phones didn't even have a camera as well. While they are 11 years apart, the changes were very significant.

I agree.

I still can’t believe 2009 was 11 years ago. It seems pretty darn recent tbh. I think what makes 1999 feel distant compared to 2010 is the amount of technology and political change we went through in such a short time.


Or you know because 1999 is 21 years ago now lol, so it just adds on more weight then 11 years ago.

Sure, JLo and Britney Spears were still making songs in the early 2010s but they were like night and day compared to their 1999 material. The internet was still primitive and social media wasn't a thing in 1999. People communicated on Messenger apps and emails. Most people took photos with analog cameras and mobile phones didn't even have a camera as well. While they are 11 years apart, the changes were very significant.


Ehh the fact that people still took pictures with cameras in the early 2010s and a bunch of celebs from the late 90s were still seemingly popular like Beyoncé, JLO, Britney and Justin Timberlake overall makes it feel not so far apart to me, like as of the gap is exaggerated. 2019 vs 1999 on the other hand do feel like day and Night tho

It depends on how culture has changed.

While J-Lo and Britney were popular, their music from both years couldn't be any more different. Teen and latin pop were all the rage back in 1999 while electronic club music and electropop were everywhere in 2010, so they've adapted with the times to stay relevant.

The technology, fashion, and pop culture were also radically different with 1999 and 2010.

Like what Retro said, 2009 feels a bit more recent with 2020 as opposed to 1999 vs. 2010 since technology hasn't been that radical, but pop culture and fashion definitely changed.

It depends on how culture has changed.

While J-Lo and Britney were popular, their music from both years couldn't be any more different. Teen and latin pop were all the rage back in 1999 while electronic club music and electropop were everywhere in 2010, so they've adapted with the times to stay relevant.

The technology, fashion, and pop culture were also radically different with 1999 and 2010.

Like what Retro said, 2009 feels a bit more recent with 2020 as opposed to 1999 vs. 2010 since technology hasn't been that radical, but pop culture and fashion definitely changed.


I guess but I still don’t see it as much. Even the iPhones in 2009 vs 2020 don’t look the same either, fashion has changed aswell, maybe it feels that way since were in 2020 now

Or you know because 1999 is 21 years ago now lol, so it just adds on more weight then 11 years ago.


And because of how much the world had changed since 1999. We went from accessing the internet through dial up modems (and less than 50% of the population having internet) to having access to it in the palm of our hands. We witnessed 9/11, war on terror, a transition from a predominantly analog word to a completely digital world in less than 21 years.

I used to think 1999 and 2010 were so far apart but now I'm starting to see what you mean. Heck I'm starting to see people lumping together 1998-2013 as one long era now (similar to 1964-1980 being seen as one era).

2010 may've had smartphones and social media rising in popularity, but I'd argue they didn't fully "warp" and "transform" our human society's behaviors until 2014-2015 (post-ironic memes, SJWs vs alt-right, political polarization). That's when we fully got information overload and future shock. In 2010, people didn't realize yet that social media was a monkey's paw.

People still acted, thought, and conducted themselves in 2010 as they often did in 1999. 2020 sites like TikTok and their sheer grip and influence on the world makes the influence of 2010 social media seem puny by comparison.

Raunchy/edgy comedy was still popular in 2010 as it was in 1999. It wasn't until 2014-2015 that a line was drawn in the sand and this stuff started getting "cancelled" constantly. Just look at what jokes Shane Dawson and Jenna Marbles made in 2010, that's getting them slack in 2020 (though I'll agree with the Shane Dawson hate, since his vileness goes far beyond mere offensive jokes).

2010 and 1999 both had a Millennialish, conformist, upbeat, somewhat "manufactured"/bland youth culture, with a lack of cynical Gen Z post-irony that crept in around 2014 and skyrocketed in 2018 onward. As CarCar said a lot of pop musicians who released music in 99 were still releasing music in 2010, such as Usher, Britney, J-Lo, etc. If you look at videos from 2010 a lot of them look dated, because many were still in SDTV. HDTV may've been rising in 2010, but wasn't adopted by everyone yet.

Indeed, there were differences between 1999 and 2010, but I'd say the differences between 1990 and 1999, or 2010 and 2019, greatly dwarf it. I think all the "90s kid" memes and nostalgia online for 1999 we saw in 2010 ("RIP Cartoon Network 1992-2004", "Pokemon G1 was the only good one", "Miss the Attitude Era, PG Era is trash", Buzzfeed and Facebook obsessing over Tamagotchis) made 1999 seem more ancient than it really was at the time.

I used to think 1999 and 2010 were so far apart but now I'm starting to see what you mean. Heck I'm starting to see people lumping together 1998-2013 as one long era now (similar to 1964-1980 being seen as one era).

2010 may've had smartphones and social media rising in popularity, but I'd argue they didn't fully "warp" and "transform" our human society's behaviors until 2013-2014 (post-ironic memes, political polarization). That's when we fully got information overload and future shock. In 2010, people didn't realize yet that social media was a monkey's paw.

People still acted, thought, and conducted themselves in 2010 as they often did in 1999. 2020 sites like TikTok and their sheer grip and influence on the world makes the influence of 2010 social media seem puny by comparison.

Raunchy/edgy comedy was still popular in 2010 as it was in 1999. It wasn't until 2013-2014 that a line was drawn in the sand and this stuff started getting "cancelled" constantly. Just look at what jokes Shane Dawson and Jenna Marbles made in 2010, that's getting them slack in 2020.

2010 and 1999 both had a Millennialish, conformist, upbeat, somewhat "manufactured"/bland youth culture, with a lack of cynical Gen Z post-irony that crept in around 2014 and skyrocketed in 2018 onward. As CarCar said a lot of pop musicians who released music in 99 were still releasing music in 2010, such as Usher, Britney, J-Lo, etc. If you look at videos from 2010 a lot of them look dated, because many were still in SDTV. HDTV may've been rising in 2010, but wasn't adopted by everyone yet.

Indeed, there were differences between 1999 and 2010, but I'd say the differences between 1990 and 1999, or 2010 and 2019, greatly dwarf it. I think all the "90s kid" memes and nostalgia online for 1999 we saw in 2010 ("RIP Cartoon Network 1992-2004", "Pokemon G1 was the only good one", "Miss the Attitude Era, PG Era is trash", Buzzfeed and Facebook obsessing over Tamagotchis) made 1999 seem more ancient than it really was at the time.


I’d argue its because of the 2000s, that whole excess that decade carries that’s pretty visible now began in the Late 90s and ended in the Early 2010s. When somebody says what’s the differences between the 2000s and 2010s I’d say the 2000s is the raunchy, edgy, hyper sexual decade while the 2010s is the more Politically Correct, Inclusive Message at the end of the movie and plus random whisper singing decade

I’d argue its because of the 2000s, that whole excess that decade carries that’s pretty visible now began in the Late 90s and ended in the Early 2010s. When somebody says what’s the differences between the 2000s and 2010s I’d say the 2000s is the raunchy, edgy, hyper sexual decade while the 2010s is the more Politically Correct, Inclusive Message at the end of the movie and plus random whisper singing decade

I've gotta admit though, early 2010s did have whisper singing too, like Your Love is My Drug by Kesha. 2008-2013 looking back really seems to be the transition period, it did have an increasingly inclusive/progressive feel, and was hipstery compared to the "machoness" of 1998-2007, but also had edgy/offensive comedy still popular (a lot of shows from that time are having episodes removed now because of constant blackface gags), and the Internet still had a bit of the "wild west" feel leftover although it was mostly gone.

I used to think 1999 and 2010 were so far apart but now I'm starting to see what you mean. Heck I'm starting to see people lumping together 1998-2013 as one long era now (similar to 1964-1980 being seen as one era).

2010 may've had smartphones and social media rising in popularity, but I'd argue they didn't fully "warp" and "transform" our human society's behaviors until 2013-2014 (post-ironic memes, political polarization). That's when we fully got information overload and future shock. In 2010, people didn't realize yet that social media was a monkey's paw.

People still acted, thought, and conducted themselves in 2010 as they often did in 1999. 2020 sites like TikTok and their sheer grip and influence on the world makes the influence of 2010 social media seem puny by comparison.

Raunchy/edgy comedy was still popular in 2010 as it was in 1999. It wasn't until 2013-2014 that a line was drawn in the sand and this stuff started getting "cancelled" constantly. Just look at what jokes Shane Dawson and Jenna Marbles made in 2010, that's getting them slack in 2020.

2010 and 1999 both had a Millennialish, conformist, upbeat, somewhat "manufactured"/bland youth culture, with a lack of cynical Gen Z post-irony that crept in around 2014 and skyrocketed in 2018 onward. As CarCar said a lot of pop musicians who released music in 99 were still releasing music in 2010, such as Usher, Britney, J-Lo, etc. If you look at videos from 2010 a lot of them look dated, because many were still in SDTV. HDTV may've been rising in 2010, but wasn't adopted by everyone yet.

Indeed, there were differences between 1999 and 2010, but I'd say the differences between 1990 and 1999, or 2010 and 2019, greatly dwarf it. I think all the "90s kid" memes and nostalgia online for 1999 we saw in 2010 ("RIP Cartoon Network 1992-2004", "Pokemon G1 was the only good one", "Miss the Attitude Era, PG Era is trash", Buzzfeed and Facebook obsessing over Tamagotchis) made 1999 seem more ancient than it really was at the time.

I don't think 2013 was politically divided and the dank meme culture didn't become mainstream until late 2014/early 2015. I also don't think cancel culture was prevalent in both years.

I don't think 2013 was politically divided and the dank meme culture didn't become mainstream until late 2014/early 2015. I also don't think cancel culture was prevalent in both years.

It's kind of a rough estimate. Moreso 2014, specifically late 2014. Late 2014 going into 2015 is when you started seeing way more news stories about "Safe spaces on campuses" or "Trigger warning privilege microaggressions" etc.

It's kind of a rough estimate. Moreso 2014, specifically late 2014. Late 2014 going into 2015 is when you started seeing way more news stories about "Safe spaces on campuses" or "Trigger warning privilege microaggressions" etc.

I would say 2013 was the last full year of political "stability" even though many Republicans attack Obama, but the Democrat vs Republican thing has been going for hundreds of years. The second half of 2014 saw a visible movement of certain sectors of the left implementing trigger warnings and safe spaces which alerted the alt-right and became another movement using reactionary tactics.

I would say 2013 was the last full year of political "stability" even though many Republicans attack Obama, but the Democrat vs Republican thing has been going for hundreds of years. The second half of 2014 saw a visible movement of certain sectors of the left implementing trigger warnings and safe spaces which alerted the alt-right and became another movement using reactionary tactics.

Yeah I agree. I only listed 2013 because a lot of other people on this board think it was a changing year or the start of the mid 2010s. Which I don't understand; to me 2013 still had the classic early 2010s feel albeit at the tail-end. Harlem Shake, Breaking Bad finale, Get Lucky by Daft Punk (the 2013 disco revival fizzled rather quick), Can't Hold Us by Macklemore, hipsters still popular, last time bronies were popular, etc. that's early 10s stuff to me.

I've gotta admit though, early 2010s did have whisper singing too, like Your Love is My Drug by Kesha. 2008-2013 looking back really seems to be the transition period, it did have an increasingly inclusive/progressive feel, and was hipstery compared to the "machoness" of 1998-2007, but also had edgy/offensive comedy still popular (a lot of shows from that time are having episodes removed now because of constant blackface gags), and the Internet still had a bit of the "wild west" feel leftover although it was mostly gone.


I feel like the whisper singing of the early 2010s was nothing like that of the mid-late 2010s. The general vibe of music videos kinda changed when Lorde came into the scene. Early 2010s is that transition era since those clubbing and partying videos that resembled the 2000s came out but they exasperated pretty quickly after 2012.

Kesha feels like a 2000s artist that just stuck around in the 2010s same with lady Gaga.

I feel like the whisper singing of the early 2010s was nothing like that of the mid-late 2010s. The general vibe of music videos kinda changed when Lorde came into the scene. Early 2010s is that transition era since those clubbing and partying videos that resembled the 2000s came out but they exasperated pretty quickly after 2012.

Kesha feels like a 2000s artist that just stuck around in the 2010s same with lady Gaga.

I can't really call Kesha and Lady Gaga "2000s" artist since they only became popular at the very end of the decade. Their aesthetic and productions are different from the songs produced in 2003-2007. P!nk, Eminem, Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, and others are real 2000s artists since they had hits many hits throughout the 2000s.

I can't really call Kesha and Lady Gaga "2000s" artist since they only became popular at the very end of the decade. Their aesthetic and productions are different from the songs produced in 2003-2007. P!nk, Eminem, Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, and others are real 2000s artists since they had hits many hits throughout the 2000s.


They’re style when they had just started was pretty common in the late 2000s. Kesha fell off after the early 2010s and lady Gaga just changed in styler after it aswell

1999 and 2010 are very far apart, but so is 1989 and 2000, and 1979 and 1990. Even 2010 was very different from 2019. I truly do believe that people underestimate how different 2010 was compared to 2019. Social attitudes in 2010 were just way different. Cancel culture didn't exist, Black Lives Matter didn't exist, Obama was president, people were more politically incorrect, culture was still in the millennial era, a little more than half of the country still didn't even support same-sex marriage (https://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/) Fashion was also way different. Social media and technology were mainly consistent in the 2010's, but Instagram and Snapchat did not exist. And even though Instagram was released in October 2010, it sure did not get popular that fast.

I can't really call Kesha and Lady Gaga "2000s" artist since they only became popular at the very end of the decade. Their aesthetic and productions are different from the songs produced in 2003-2007. P!nk, Eminem, Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, and others are real 2000s artists since they had hits many hits throughout the 2000s.
Lady Gaga still owned a full year and a half of the 2000s so it definitely counts. It's like saying that Lizzo and Billie Eilish weren't 2010s artists just because they didn't appear in the mainstream until the last year of the decade.

In fact, she's more of a 2000s artist than a 2010s one considering her biggest and most memorable hits all came out in the late 00s (Just Dance, Poker Face and Bad Romance), while she was pushed to the sideways very early into the 2010s (2013) and wasn't really part of the cultural zeitgeist until the 'A Star is Born' movie in late 2018. She was basically irrelevant for the vast majority of the 2010s.

Ke$ha is a tricky case since even her first big hit really only peaked well into 2010. She's comparable to Roddy Ricch for the 2020s in that sense.

Lady Gaga still owned a full year and a half of the 2000s so it definitely counts. It's like saying that Lizzo and Billie Eilish weren't 2010s artists just because they didn't appear in the mainstream until the last year of the decade.

In fact, she's more of a 2000s artist than a 2010s one considering her biggest and most memorable hits all came out in the late 00s (Just Dance, Poker Face and Bad Romance), while she was pushed to the sideways very early into the 2010s (2013) and wasn't really part of the cultural zeitgeist until the 'A Star is Born' movie in late 2018. She was basically irrelevant for the vast majority of the 2010s.

Ke$ha is a tricky case since even her first big hit really only peaked well into 2010. She's comparable to Roddy Ricch for the 2020s in that sense.


I’d argue lady Gaga’s aesthetic fits the late 2000s pretty well until she toned like you said in 2018 cause her old appearance wasn’t working for her anymore, same with Kesha. As for Roddy only time will tell wether he adapts to true 2020s trends and fashion but so far he seems safe since mumble rap hasn’t gone anywhere yet

Personally, I don't really consider Lady Gaga as a 2000s artist. Her peak was more in the 2010's. Same thing with Katy Perry.

Lady Gaga still owned a full year and a half of the 2000s so it definitely counts. It's like saying that Lizzo and Billie Eilish weren't 2010s artists just because they didn't appear in the mainstream until the last year of the decade.

In fact, she's more of a 2000s artist than a 2010s one considering her biggest and most memorable hits all came out in the late 00s (Just Dance, Poker Face and Bad Romance), while she was pushed to the sideways very early into the 2010s (2013) and wasn't really part of the cultural zeitgeist until the 'A Star is Born' movie in late 2018. She was basically irrelevant for the vast majority of the 2010s.

Ke$ha is a tricky case since even her first big hit really only peaked well into 2010. She's comparable to Roddy Ricch for the 2020s in that sense.

You are right that her peak was in the 2000s, particularly the late 2000s. What I am saying is that her songs Just Dance and Poker Face were song that sound different compared to what dominated the 2000s such as sludgy post-grunge, macho southern rap, R&B jams, and theatrical emo pop.

Her sound is different from what the 2000s offered. She was the building block to the upcoming sound of the early part of the next decade and her European sound made EDM a defining genre of the 2010s. Yeah, Britney Spears done it first but Lady Gaga was the one to help the genre skyrocket up the charts. She is more of a 2000s artist but her sound was distinguishable from the majority of the 2000s.

I think there's a slight difference between being an artist in the 2000's and being a 2000's artist. Lady Gaga didn't really appear into the mainstream until late 2008 / early 2009, so to me she isn't as much of a 2000's artist as she was an artist in the 2000's. Her peak was really in the 2010's, with "Born This Way, "Alejandro", "Judas" and "Applause". "Bad Romance", despite technically being released in 2009, reached its peak in early 2010.

IMO a 2000's artist would be an artist that defined the 2000's decade. Artists like Beyonce and 50 Cent would be a 2000's artist.

Is Lady Gaga the Paula Abdul of the 2000s/2010s ?

I think there's a slight difference between being an artist in the 2000's and being a 2000's artist. Lady Gaga didn't really appear into the mainstream until late 2008 / early 2009, so to me she isn't as much of a 2000's artist as she was an artist in the 2000's. Her peak was really in the 2010's, with "Born This Way, "Alejandro", "Judas" and "Applause". "Bad Romance", despite technically being released in 2009, reached its peak in early 2010.

IMO a 2000's artist would be an artist that defined the 2000's decade. Artists like Beyonce and 50 Cent would be a 2000's artist.

An artist doesn't have to define the decade to part of it (and still MANY say Lady Gaga defined the late 2000s), otherwise you can count them on your fingers and it's putting a completely arbitrary destinction.

The first songs to come to mind for most people when they think of Gaga are not "Alejandro" or "Born This Way" and certainly not "Applause", but "Just Dance", "Poker Face" and "Bad Romance", all of them coming out in 2008/9.

Is Lady Gaga the Paula Abdul of the 2000s/2010s ?


More like what Britney was in late 1998.

More like what Britney was in late 1998.


Err I was going to say that but Brit was a teen star unlike lady Gaga who was firmly and adult when she came out. Her music videos weren’t in a high school or anything

Err I was going to say that but Brit was a teen star unlike lady Gaga who was firmly and adult when she came out. Her music videos weren’t in a high school or anything


Likewise Paula Abdul was an established choreographer before she was a pop star.

Err I was going to say that but Brit was a teen star unlike lady Gaga who was firmly and adult when she came out. Her music videos weren’t in a high school or anything


More so talking about popularity not their styles in music videos or age. Lady Gaga reminds me of what Britney was in the late 90’s/early 2000’s because they were both breakthrough stars that made a huge pop cultural impact. In the 2000’s (before Lady Gaga came onto the scenes) I remember people compared Britney’s 1998 breakthrough to Mariah Carey’s 1990 breakthrough. Paula Abdul was very much into her mid 20’s when she Came onto the scene as a singer back in the late 80’s.

Alright, I'm gonna try my best not to be biased in this post because I did grow up in the 2000s. But anyone who is honest will admit 1999 and 2010 were EXTREMELY different. The 2000s had so many changes. 1999 and 2010 absolutely felt like a totally different world no contest. In fact, the year 2019, only one year ago from today, can be argued to be in the same "big" era as 2009 when looking at the big picture. 1999 and 2009 were worlds apart. So much change happened and not just in little areas but from pop culture, tech, the world, politics, etc.

More like what Britney was in late 1998.

Not quite. No one topped the level of fame Britney Spears had.

Not quite. No one topped the level of fame Britney Spears had.


True, she was very big back then.