I never said my cultural identity started at 2. I was 3 in 2000 (the 20th century is still 2000 btw) and that is when I started to remember things and recognize culture of that time. In response to that I also said that someone born in 1996 remembering 1999 would be no different as me remembering 2000 as they were both culturally identical(y2k era). The first episode of Pokemon aired on September 8th 1998 here in the US and the first season ended in 1999. I didn’t even watch Pokemon, it was more common amongst boys my age. I can’t even stress how many boys had pokemon backpacks, shirts and lunch pails in preschool and elementary school. Pokemon didn’t define the entirety of the millennial generation. A millennial who was 16 in 1998 was more than likely to skip that program...

Millennials are the generation predicated by the year 2000. They just so happen to all have some sort of childhood in the late 80’s, 90’s and early 2000’s as a result of them growing up OR coming of age by the year 2000.

Neil Howel and William Strauss started the millennial generation in 1982 and ended the millennial generation in 2004 as in 1989 it was believed those reaching young adult hood by the first quarter of the 21st century were millennials with those born in 2004 reaching 21 by 2025. In 1989 9/11 wasnt even a thing yet, now that it is 2019 it is starting to define millennials more


I didn’t keep up with Pokémon then and I don’t now. Still, I will change the years in my last post. Thank you for clearing that up with me.

I have to disagree with you on the ‘97 born having a similar cultural identity to the ‘96 born. You said yourself that the first “Pokémon” series ended in 1999. Your generation (Zers) might have latched on to what Millennials were doing in the year 2000, but Millennial culture is associated with Millennials only. “Spongebob Squarepants”, “Dora the Explorer”, and “Big Mouth Billy Bass” was more important to your generation than the original “Pokémon” and other inventions that came out in the 90s.

I didn’t keep up with Pokémon then and I don’t now. Still, I will change the years in my last post. Thank you for clearing that up with me.

I have to disagree with you on the ‘97 born having a similar cultural identity to the ‘96 born. You said yourself that the first “Pokémon” series ended in 1999. Your generation (Zers) might have latched on to what Millennials were doing in the year 2000, but Millennial culture is associated with Millennials only. “Spongebob Squarepants”, “Dora the Explorer”, and “Big Mouth Billy Bass” was more important to your generation than the original “Pokémon” and other inventions that came out in the 90s.


Ive never heard of big mouth billy bass and spongebob was on air for two weeks in 1999 lol. Anyone who was under 7 was in the age demographic for Dora in 2000 and I didn’t even watch Dora by the time that show was heavily popular I was already in elementary school. Someone born in 1996 only remembers one year if the 90’s but spent 99 percent of their childhood in the 2000’s. Millennial culture is britney Nsync BSB destinys child all things popular in the late 90’s to early 2000’s. Again you’re cutting off 1997 borns as millennials because they weren’t three in 1999 being a millennial has nothing to do with being a 90’s kid. We get it you’re a 90’s kid and you should be oh so valued for that fact, but millennials and 90’s kids are not the same thing. Someone born in 2000 is not going to remember Britney Kissing Madonna at the VMAs in 2003 the way someone born in 1997 would remember it. This must be Michael Burton lol. 1996 borns were in the same class as me and not even 6 months older than me lol. We didn’t latch on to what millennials were doing we latched on to the heavily manufactured kid culture that was relevant of that time. You act like gameboy color and pokemon dropped off the face of the earth by 2000 when it was only in its second season. 1998 and 2000 were pretty much adjacent to each other.

If thats the case sponge bob, rocket power, the wild thornberries, the amanda show, as told by ginger, cat dog, etc were all gen z shows since they started in 1999-2000 and gained relevance in the early 2000’s.

4 year olds in 1998 only the “Pokémon” tv show and GameBoy games for most of the year, whereas 4 year olds in 2001 had “Dora the Explorer”, “Spongebob Squarepants”, and “Pokémon” repeats. 2001 was explosive for Zers. There was “Shrek” and “Harry Potter and The Sorcerer’s Stone” in theaters and “Bratz” dolls on shelves for the first time.

A 4 year old in 1998 would have grown tired of the new “Pokémon” show, Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears and furbies before or during 2001.

Millennial culture was waning in the 2000s like Jones and early Xer culture was in the 80s. ‘98 and ‘01 are not the same at all.

I haven't commented on anything else in this thread because I didn't think they applied to me. However, I will add my thoughts to this since I think it pertains to me personally.

I was 5 in 1998. My main obsessions were Pokemon, Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball Z, A Bugs Life, Antz, Gameboy, Playstation 1, Nintendo 64,, Out of the Box, Rollie Pollie Ollie, some kids were still watching Little Bear & Blues Clues. Then you had a whole plethora of cartoons airing on Cartoon Network (Jonny Bravo, 2 angry beavers, cow & chickens, dexter's lab, powerpuff girls, I am weseal, Hey Arnold, etc) among other things.

I personally did feel the sensationalism and "spark" Pokemon had died down after 2000. I still enjoyed the show in subsequent years but it was nowhere near the level it was in during the Y2K era. Same thing goes for a lot of Y2K stuff, many things lost its spark after 2000. Yeah, stopped liking furbies after 2001. I agree 98 & 01 were not the same.

Im guessing you mean millennial kid culture was wanning in the 2000s? I don't consider Shrek & all that stuff to be "Gen Z" tho. I agree with 1997 that things in the late 90s & early 2000s (even after Y2K) are still millennial kid culture.

I haven't commented on anything else in this thread because I didn't think they applied to me. However, I will add my thoughts to this since I think it pertains to me personally.

I was 5 in 1998. My main obsessions were Pokemon, Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball Z, A Bugs Life, Antz, Gameboy, Playstation 1, Nintendo 64,, Out of the Box, Rollie Pollie Ollie, some kids were still watching Little Bear & Blues Clues. Then you had a whole plethora of cartoons airing on Cartoon Network (Jonny Bravo, 2 angry beavers, cow & chickens, dexter's lab, powerpuff girls, I am weseal, Hey Arnold, etc) among other things.

I personally did feel the sensationalism and "spark" Pokemon had died down after 2000. I still enjoyed the show in subsequent years but it was nowhere near the level it was in during the Y2K era. Same thing goes for a lot of Y2K stuff, many things lost its spark after 2000. Yeah, stopped liking furbies after 2001. I agree 98 & 01 were not the same.

Im guessing you mean millennial kid culture was wanning in the 2000s? I don't consider Shrek & all that stuff to be "Gen Z" tho. I agree with 1997 that things in the late 90s & early 2000s (even after Y2K) are still millennial kid culture.

I grew up with every single one of those shows. Sailormoon ended in 1996 or 1997 and I still have the vhs tapes. Pokemon in the US premiered in late 1998 so after the first season would you say it started to die ? The second season ran from 1999-2001. I went to see the Pokemon movie in 2000 and I remember that movie was so manufactured from the mc donald toys to the pop tarts. My point was being a kid in 1998 was no different than being a kid in 2001. Y2k culture was still predominant in 2001. Digimon was huge in 2001 as well. Tge shows from Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon that started in the mid to late 90’s were still running and releasing new episodes until 2004 such as hey arnold, dexters lab, powerpuff girls, etc. Toys like hit clips, furbies, i zone cameras, etc were all still racking tons of sales in 2001 and they were still predominant. 1999 and 2001 were identical in terms of kid culture.

Ive never heard of big mouth billy bass and spongebob was on air for two weeks in 1999 lol. Anyone who was under 7 was in the age demographic for Dora in 2000 and I didn’t even watch Dora by the time that show was heavily popular I was already in elementary school. Someone born in 1996 only remembers one year if the 90’s but spent 99 percent of their childhood in the 2000’s. Millennial culture is britney Nsync BSB destinys child all things popular in the late 90’s to early 2000’s. Again you’re cutting off 1997 borns as millennials because they weren’t three in 1999 being a millennial has nothing to do with being a 90’s kid. We get it you’re a 90’s kid and you should be oh so valued for that fact, but millennials and 90’s kids are not the same thing. Someone born in 2000 is not going to remember Britney Kissing Madonna at the VMAs in 2003 the way someone born in 1997 would remember it. This must be Michael Burton lol. 1996 borns were in the same class as me and not even 6 months older than me lol. We didn’t latch on to what millennials were doing we latched on to the heavily manufactured kid culture that was relevant of that time. You act like gameboy color and pokemon dropped off the face of the earth by 2000 when it was only in its second season. 1998 and 2000 were pretty much adjacent to each other.

If thats the case sponge bob, rocket power, the wild thornberries, the amanda show, as told by ginger, cat dog, etc were all gen z shows since they started in 1999-2000 and gained relevance in the early 2000’s.


1997 borns are Zers. End of debate.

Millennials culture from the 90s spanned into the 2000s, but it was better in the 90s.

‘96 borns could be perceived as Zers also. Millennials had to explain the kid culture from the 90s to Zers. Zers did not discover the new culture of the 90s in the 90s like Millennials did. When you ask a ‘96 or ‘97 born if they prefer something from the 90s to the kid culture of the 2000s, they usually go with the 2000s.

Am I saying that Zers didn’t know of the kid culture invented in the 90s at all? No. When Zers stumbled upon the newer editions of stuff Millennials had in the 90s, they were bored with it. The kid culture that came out of the 2000s was for Zers.


I haven't commented on anything else in this thread because I didn't think they applied to me. However, I will add my thoughts to this since I think it pertains to me personally.

I was 5 in 1998. My main obsessions were Pokemon, Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball Z, A Bugs Life, Antz, Gameboy, Playstation 1, Nintendo 64,, Out of the Box, Rollie Pollie Ollie, some kids were still watching Little Bear & Blues Clues. Then you had a whole plethora of cartoons airing on Cartoon Network (Jonny Bravo, 2 angry beavers, cow & chickens, dexter's lab, powerpuff girls, I am weseal, Hey Arnold, etc) among other things.

I personally did feel the sensationalism and "spark" Pokemon had died down after 2000. I still enjoyed the show in subsequent years but it was nowhere near the level it was in during the Y2K era. Same thing goes for a lot of Y2K stuff, many things lost its spark after 2000. Yeah, stopped liking furbies after 2001. I agree 98 & 01 were not the same.

Im guessing you mean millennial kid culture was wanning in the 2000s? I don't consider Shrek & all that stuff to be "Gen Z" tho. I agree with 1997 that things in the late 90s & early 2000s (even after Y2K) are still millennial kid culture.


The sensationalism and ‘spark’ that “Pokémon” had in the US died in the year 2000. Millennials grew up and abandoned it for music and teen shows.

Furby went south in 2000 as the robotic dogs hit shelves.

Millennial kid culture is what I meant. You heard that right.

“Shrek” is Gen Z. Everything released for children from 1999 (“Spongebob”) to 2010 (“Adventure Time”) or so was made for Zers.

1997 borns are Zers. End of argument.

Millennials culture from the 90s spanned into the 2000s, but it was better in the 90s.

‘96 borns could be perceived as Zers also. Millennials had to explain the kid culture from the 90s to Zers. Zers did not discover the new culture of the 90s in the 90s like Millennials did. When you ask a ‘96 or ‘97 born if they prefer something from the 90s to the kid culture of the 2000s, they usually go with the 2000s.

Am I saying that Zers didn’t know of the kid culture invented in the 90s at all? No. When Zers stumbled upon the newer editions of stuff Millennials had in the 90s, they were bored with it. The kid culture that came out of the 2000s was for Zers.

The sensationalism and ‘spark’ that “Pokémon” had in the US died in the year 2000. Millennials grew up and abandoned it for music and teen shows.

Furby went south in 2000 as the robotic dogs hit shelves.

Millennial kid culture is what I meant. You heard that right.

“Shrek” is Gen Z. Everything released for children from 1999 to 2010 or so was made for Zers.


You keep getting 90’s kids and millennials intertwined 😂😂  it’s probably due to that 90’s kid superiority complex. You were a teen in 2000 beginning to gravitate towards things directed towards the teenage audience. Furbies didn’t die when poo-chi the robot dog came on the scene in fact the sales for furbies peaked in 1999-2000 with the millennum 2000 furby in which I still have. Everything released in the late 90’s  was still going strong in the early 2000’s. You mean to tell me that manufactures for kid companies started to fail because we rolled into the year 2000 ? 1997 borns aren’t necessarily gen z as they have the ability to remember 9/11, the year 2000, bush, middle school during Obamas election, middle school during the recession with other millennials, started elementary school 5 years before the rise of the smartphone, graduated before gay marriage was legal, graduated before Trump elections and graduated before parkland. They spent a majority of their adolescent years in electro pop era as well. Culturally someone born in the mid 90’s will gravitate to y2k kid culture which was arguably from 1997/1998-2002/2003. Someone born in 1994 would’ve spent MOST of their childhood in the 2000’s not 90’s.

You keep getting 90’s kids and millennials intertwined 😂😂  it’s probably due to that 90’s kid superiority complex. You were a teen in 2000 beginning to gravitate towards things directed towards the teenage audience. Furbies didn’t die when poo-chi the robot dog came on the scene in fact the sales for furbies peaked in 1999-2000 with the millennum 2000 furby in which I still have. Everything released in the late 90’s  was still going strong in the early 2000’s. You mean to tell me that manufactures for kid companies started to fail because we rolled into the year 2000 ? 1997 borns aren’t necessarily gen z as they have the ability to remember 9/11, the year 2000, bush, middle school during Obamas election, middle school during the recession with other millennials, started elementary school 5 years before the rise of the smartphone, graduated before gay marriage was legal, graduated before Trump elections and graduated before parkland. They spent a majority of their adolescent years in electro pop era as well. Culturally someone born in the mid 90’s will gravitate to y2k kid culture which was arguably from 1997/1998-2002/2003. Someone born in 1994 would’ve spent MOST of their childhood in the 2000’s not 90’s.


I’m actually an 80s kid. My cultural identity was formed in the mid and late 1980s.

Interest for Furbies from Millennials didn’t fade automatically once the year 2000 calendars went up. Everything changed in the summer to winter of 2000. Early Millennials switched over completely to music from Blink 182 and WB dramedies like “Gilmore Girls”. The late Millennials, on the other hand, were riding on Razor scooters before the year 2000 was over. Furby was out. It was 1998 anymore.

‘97 borns  did not understand 9/11 on the day it happened. They were infants who could have cared less about what was on the news. Same thing for when we all entered the new Millennium. ‘95 borns (the last Millennials) were not in middle school during the time of the recession. Everything else you mentioned belongs to Generation Z.

Late Millennials born in the mid 90s may have had the last part of their childhoods in the 2000s, but their cultural identity was formed in the 90s. Early Zers born in the late 90s never knew any part of the 90s.

This Y2K kid culture you mentioned was brand new in the years 1997 and 1998. Millennials grew tired of the Y2K kid culture you speak of in different areas of the 1999 or 2000 to 2001 or 2002 era.

Zers started absorbing the kid culture of their youth in the 2000s. Late 90s borns are Zers. Not everyone can be a Millennial. The birth years for actual Millennials started in the 80s. Not to mention, to some Boomers and Xers, people born from 1977 to 1986 are Millennials.  :o

Anyway you spin it, Zers had to be born sometime in the 90s. The popular belief is that late 90s borns are Zers.

I said I was giving my personal perspective. No, I do not feel Pokemon was the same after 2000, to me the peak of it was in 2000. I never said that it died, I said imo it lost its "spark." When pokemon first became popular, it felt bigger than life and was a cultural phenomenon. By core 2001, it was becoming oversaturated. I didn't share the same sentiments toward it  in the late 90s. However, I know that it was still loved by kids as far as 2005, but I wasn't into it like that anymore.

Sailormoon, the Japanese version, may have ended in 97; but that was before it had even began airing in the U.S.

In the U.S., Sailormoon probably started airing in 97 or early 98 during the mornings. Then it became very popular throughout the late 90s and very early 2000s when Cartoon Network picked it up. For Millennials, its mostly a 1998 - 2000 show. 1998 & 2001 are different to me from the perspective of a child. It's simply because many things (aside from television) that defined the my childhood during the Y2K era didn't feel as revolutionary as they did when they first came out. I'm not disputing that they were still popular.

I said I was giving my personal perspective. No, I do not feel Pokemon was the same after 2000, to me the peak of it was in 2000. I never said that it died, I said imo it lost its "spark." When pokemon first became popular, it felt bigger than life and was a cultural phenomenon. By core 2001, it was becoming oversaturated. I didn't share the same sentiments toward it  in the late 90s. However, I know that it was still loved by kids as far as 2005, but I wasn't into it like that anymore.

Sailormoon, the Japanese version, may have ended in 97; but that was before it had even began airing in the U.S.

In the U.S., Sailormoon probably started airing in 97 or early 98 during the mornings. Then it became very popular throughout the late 90s and very early 2000s when Cartoon Network picked it up. For Millennials, its mostly a 1998 - 2000 show. 1998 & 2001 are different to me from the perspective of a child. It's simply because many things (aside from television) that defined the my childhood during the Y2K era didn't feel as revolutionary as they did when they first came out. I'm not disputing that they were still popular.


Where we you in 1999? The year 2000 was the weaker aftermath to 1999. The only exciting part of 2000 was when we entered it.  ;D

With that said, there is not much memorable about 2000 at all.

You keep getting 90’s kids and millennials intertwined 😂😂  it’s probably due to that 90’s kid superiority complex. You were a teen in 2000 beginning to gravitate towards things directed towards the teenage audience. Furbies didn’t die when poo-chi the robot dog came on the scene in fact the sales for furbies peaked in 1999-2000 with the millennum 2000 furby in which I still have. Everything released in the late 90’s  was still going strong in the early 2000’s. You mean to tell me that manufactures for kid companies started to fail because we rolled into the year 2000 ? 1997 borns aren’t necessarily gen z as they have the ability to remember 9/11, the year 2000, bush, middle school during Obamas election, middle school during the recession with other millennials, started elementary school 5 years before the rise of the smartphone, graduated before gay marriage was legal, graduated before Trump elections and graduated before parkland. They spent a majority of their adolescent years in electro pop era as well. Culturally someone born in the mid 90’s will gravitate to y2k kid culture which was arguably from 1997/1998-2002/2003. Someone born in 1994 would’ve spent MOST of their childhood in the 2000’s not 90’s.


Since when do 97 babies remember the year 2000 or 9/11? And 90s kids and millennials are intertwined because the archetypal millennial is a 90s kid.

I’m actually an 80s kid. My cultural identity was formed in the mid and late 1980s.

Interest for Furbies from Millennials didn’t fade automatically once the year 2000 calendars went up. Everything changed in the summer to winter of 2000. Early Millennials switched over completely to music from Blink 182 and WB dramedies like “Gilmore Girls”. The late Millennials, on the other hand, were riding on Razor scooters before the year 2000 was over. Furby was out. It was 1998 anymore.

‘97 borns  did not understand 9/11 on the day it happened. They were infants who could have cared less about what was on the news. Same thing for when we all entered the new Millennium. ‘95 borns (the last Millennials) were not in middle school during the time of the recession. Everything else you mentioned belongs to Generation Z.

Late Millennials born in the mid 90s may have had the last part of their childhoods in the 2000s, but their cultural identity was formed in the 90s. Early Zers born in the late 90s never knew any part of the 90s.

This Y2K kid culture you mentioned was brand new in the years 1997 and 1998. Millennials grew tired of the Y2K kid culture you speak of in different areas of the 1999 or 2000 to 2001 or 2002 era.

Zers started absorbing the kid culture of their youth in the 2000s. Late 90s borns are Zers. Not everyone can be a Millennial. The birth years for actual Millennials started in the 80s. Not to mention, to some Boomers and Xers, people born from 1977 to 1986 are Millennials.  :o

Anyway you spin it, Zers had to be born sometime in the 90s. The popular belief is that late 90s borns are Zers.


1995 borns were in 8th grade during the global recession of 2008 as they were 13 during the 2008-2009 school year. They were freshman in fall of 2009 when the recession was over. Someone born in 1997 was an infant in 1997 and a toddler in 1998-1999 and a kid in 2000/2001. It is quite easy for a 4 year old to understand that something bad happened on 9/11. In fact it’s scientifically proven that by age 3 1/2-4 years old a child understands what death is. If we’re going by the logic of understanding 9/11, technically anyone who was under 10 wouldn’t have completely understood. 9/11 happened due to a myriad of experiences that happened before someone born in 1992 even existed. If you’re an 80’s kid, weren’t you too old to be focused on the kid culture of y2k ? Please don’t tell me you’re one of those everything changed in 2000 folks... if thats the case you should watch the new rockos modern life movie on Netflix, it applies to you.

Culture doesn’t fade within a 3 year radius. Like I said someone born in 1997 would certainly have a more millennial upbringing than someone born in 2004 a core gen z member. Technically gen z could start in 1998 since they were the first to start childhood in the 21st century. Or it could start in 2001. When it comes to shared experiences, remembering dial up, 9/11,2000, bush, being in preschool during Clintons last year of presidency and spending some form of childhood during clintons era is something I will share in common with millennials that a person born even a year or two after me wouldn’t share. You act like someone born in mid 90’s started to form their cultural identity in the very late 90’s where as I in 2000. We aren’t different.

Millennial kid culture wasn’t fading in 2000 and if you were an 80’s kid I don’t see how you would’ve possibly even noticed the differences in kid culture more than 13 years after your childhood

1977 is defined Gen X all the way. Never met a single person born in the 70’s say they are a millennial. They were in the core demographic for nirvanna and gangsta rap not Hit me baby one more time lolol

Since when do 97 babies remember the year 2000 or 9/11? And 90s kids and millennials are intertwined because the archetypal millennial is a 90s kid.


I was in pre school in 2000 of course I have memories from that year inclusing my third birthday party. I was almost in kindergarten when 9/11 happened. Memories begin at age 3 and I was 3 in 2000. If you don’t remember some of your pre school experience then you’ve probably smoked too much weed or your getting old.to end that argument  yes I remember things I did in 2000 and if you’d like I will post homevideos and photos to prove so. Yes I remember 9/11 it was the talk of our country from ages 4- 5 for me(2001-2002), millennials are those who grew up and came of age around the millennium, they just so happen to predominantly be 90’s kids. No did me and someone born 2-3 years older than me grow up in completely different worlds. This gets old

I said I was giving my personal perspective. No, I do not feel Pokemon was the same after 2000, to me the peak of it was in 2000. I never said that it died, I said imo it lost its "spark." When pokemon first became popular, it felt bigger than life and was a cultural phenomenon. By core 2001, it was becoming oversaturated. I didn't share the same sentiments toward it  in the late 90s. However, I know that it was still loved by kids as far as 2005, but I wasn't into it like that anymore.

Sailormoon, the Japanese version, may have ended in 97; but that was before it had even began airing in the U.S.

In the U.S., Sailormoon probably started airing in 97 or early 98 during the mornings. Then it became very popular throughout the late 90s and very early 2000s when Cartoon Network picked it up. For Millennials, its mostly a 1998 - 2000 show. 1998 & 2001 are different to me from the perspective of a child. It's simply because many things (aside from television) that defined the my childhood during the Y2K era didn't feel as revolutionary as they did when they first came out. I'm not disputing that they were still popular.


Oh I totally agree. I believe 1998-2002 was really not that different . The Matrix 1 and 2, Blade 1 and 2, fashion was stagnant, Rugrats movie in 1998 then Rugrats in Paris in late 2000 early 2001. Hell in early 2001 1998 wasn't even within a 3 year radius yet.

Sailormokn started in 1995 in the US and was a complete fail here only releasing 65 episodes. By 2001 the show was dead. In 2003 when I was in first grade pioneer productions started selling episodes on DVD.

Cartoons like catdog (1998), Rocketpower (1999), Wildthornberries (1999), ed ed and eddy (1999), etc all peaked in the early 2000’s in terms of popularity.However those were all in my era of cartoons. If I’m considered Gen z, then why are those cartoons mainly disputed as millennial cartoons when they reached peak popularity when i was in elementary school ? I agree,  Pokemon was big in 2000. I remember going to see the movie in theaters. That was the first movie I remember seeing in theaters. I remember the pokemon pop-tarts around that time too. I feel like Retrolover just doesn’t want to claim a part of the eaely 2000’s as millennial territory because he wants to appear hip by associating himself with highly over romanticized/ glorified decades that didn’t shape the millennial generation as a whole.

1995 borns were in 8th grade during the global recession of 2008 as they were 13 during the 2008-2009 school year. They were freshman in fall of 2009 when the recession was over. Someone born in 1997 was an infant in 1997 and a toddler in 1998-1999 and a kid in 2000/2001. It is quite easy for a 4 year old to understand that something bad happened on 9/11. In fact it’s scientifically proven that by age 3 1/2-4 years old a child understands what death is. If we’re going by the logic of understanding 9/11, technically anyone who was under 10 wouldn’t have completely understood. 9/11 happened due to a myriad of experiences that happened before someone born in 1992 even existed. If you’re an 80’s kid, weren’t you too old to be focused on the kid culture of y2k ? Please don’t tell me you’re one of those everything changed in 2000 folks... if thats the case you should watch the new rockos modern life movie on Netflix, it applies to you.

Culture doesn’t fade within a 3 year radius. Like I said someone born in 1997 would certainly have a more millennial upbringing than someone born in 2004 a core gen z member. Technically gen z could start in 1998 since they were the first to start childhood in the 21st century. Or it could start in 2001. When it comes to shared experiences, remembering dial up, 9/11,2000, bush, being in preschool during Clintons last year of presidency and spending some form of childhood during clintons era is something I will share in common with millennials that a person born even a year or two after me wouldn’t share. You act like someone born in mid 90’s started to form their cultural identity in the very late 90’s where as I in 2000. We aren’t different.

Millennial kid culture wasn’t fading in 2000 and if you were an 80’s kid I don’t see how you would’ve possibly even noticed the differences in kid culture more than 13 years after your childhood

1977 is defined Gen X all the way. Never met a single person born in the 70’s say they are a millennial. They were in the core demographic for nirvanna and gangsta rap not Hit me baby one more time lolol


There are 13 year olds who started high school during the 2008 to 2009 TV season.

I turned 4 in the year when the Space Shuttle Challenger exploded and I didn’t care about hearing it at the time. All that mattered to me at the time were cartoons, animated movies, and toys. I was 3 going on 4 years old.

9/11, the Y2K Bug being largely a myth, and  dial-up internet were all things that early Millennials knew better than late Millennials and early Zers. The things that resonate with Zers from the earliest years of the 2000s are “Spongebob Squarepants”, the second “Pokémon” series (when it jumped the shark), the first ever “Star Wars” prequel, “Teletubbies” (when they lost popularity), “Dora the Explorer”, and the lesser known Furbies that aren’t worth much today.

From anyway you spin it, the Millennial kid culture of ‘98 wasn’t fresh in 2000 like it was in even the spring of 1999.

I’m not only an 80s kid, but a pop culuralist in general. There was no way you could unsee the last breath of Millennial kid culture in malls and libraries even from 1999 to 2001. You couldn’t be alive in 1999 and not know of the existence of “Pokémon”.  :o
“Pokémon” in the US wasn’t the “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles” in 1990, 1991, 1992, or even 1993, but there were posters on EB Games store windows in ‘98 and trading card packs and boosters in stationary store windows in 1999. Unlike the “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles”, “Pokémon” made the cover of Time Magazine in 1999.

‘77 borns are indeed the first ever Xennials. Their childhoods were in the 80s, not the 1970s. I don’t know late Xer who brings up “Nickelodeon’s You Can’t Do That On Television” as a part of their 70s childhood culture.

I don’t think ‘77 borns were that heavy on grunge music. That’s a late Xer thing. Now gangsta music…highly likely. All Xennials in the mid 90s, young and old, listened to gangsta music. You’re right, the new Millennial pre-teen music from the 90s like “Hit Me Baby One More Time” by Britney Spears was not our thing. All Xennials are pro-80s and Early 90s. Not 90s and Early 2000s.

An early Xennial could say they saw “Return of the Jedi” in theaters, so that makes them a late Gen Xer or more like a late Gen Xer. The truth of the matter is only 1977 “Star Wars” is THE “Star Wars” to late Gen Xers.

Can we get back on topic?

The very early 2010s were an early and late Zer’s world. There wasn’t much culture made in the 2010s or before for even a one year old in 2011 (a Gen Alpha).

2011 seems dated, but I don’t know about after that.

It scares me to think the early 2020s won’t be as good as even the early 2010s were, but it looks like it’s headed in that direction.

Before I answer the question for this thread, let me just address the dreaded 'generationology' on this thread. Listen, you two (not gonna mention any names, but ya'll know who you are) are really starting to get on my nerves.....

I'm getting sick and tired also trying to defend myself on subjective qualia, so let's just settle it with this:

This post is from Personality Cafe's generation sections (the exact link being right here; https://www.personalitycafe.com/generations/689890-new-way-defining-generations-4.html)

It's a perfectly reasonable chart because we all assume that peak childhood (aka, the core of one's childhood from a mathematical standpoint) is about age 8, and the same can be said of peak 'youth' (or the core of one's teenaged years from a mathematical standpoint) is about age 16.

Childhood peak: 8
Adolescence peak: 16

Early Baby Boomers: 1945-1952
Born during Truman's presidency.
Kids during Eisenhower's presidency.
Teens during Kennedy's and/or Johnson's presidency.

Gen Jones Baby Boomers: 1953-1960
Born during Eisenhower's presidency.
Kids during Kennedy's and/or Johnson's presidency.
Teens during Nixon's and/or Ford's presidency.

Late Baby Boomers: 1961-1964
Born during Kennedy's presidency (or Johnson's continuation of his first term).
Kids during Nixon's first term.
Teens during Carter's presidency.

Early Gen X: 1965-1968
Born during Johnson's second term.
Kids during Nixon's and/or Ford's presidency.
Teens during Carter's of Reagan's presidency.

Core Gen X: 1969-1976
Born during Nixon's or Ford's presidency.
Kids during Carter's presidency and/or Reagan's 1st term.
Teens during Reagan's 2nd term and/or Clinton's 1st term.

Late Gen X: 1977-1980
Born during Carter's presidency.
Kids during Reagan's second term.
Teens during Clinton's first term.

Early Gen Y: 1981-1984
Born during Reagan's first term.
Kids during Bush Sr.'s presidency.
Teens during Clinton's second term.

Core Gen Y: 1985-1992
Born during Reagan's second term or Bush Sr.'s presidency.
Kids during Clinton's presidency.
Teens during Bush's presidency.

Late Gen Y: 1993-1996
Born during Clinton's first term.
Kids during Bush's first term.
Teens during Obama's first term.

Early Gen Z: 1997-2000
Born during Clinton's second term.
Kids during Bush Jr.'s second term.
Teens during Obama's second term.

Core Gen Z: 2001-2008
Born during Bush Jr. presidency.
Kids during Obama's presidency.
Teens during Trump's presidency, and/or potentially another Democratic candidate in the 2020 U.S. Election.

Late Gen Z: 2009-2012
Born during Obama's first term.
Kids during Trump's first term.

Early Gen Alpha: 2013-2016
Born during Obama's second term.

Core Gen Alpha: 2017-2020
Born during Trump's first term.

Late Gen Alpha: 2021-2024
To be determined.

Whenever you turned/reached peak childhood or peak teenagedhood is what generation (and subset of respective generation) you belong to. I don't fully agree with this model, at least subjectively. However, besides the other non-controversial range of 1982-2000, 1981-1996 (or roundabouts) seem to be most common on many polling/demographic research firms (Pew, Gallup, Ernest & Young, etc.) due to how concise it is. Heck, if you search 'Millennials' on Google, "1981-1996" is the first date range that usually pops up. Not saying that this is objective and in stone, because I even have some of my own personal reservations. But nonetheless, when you break it down, it does make sense, at least in some capacity. But anyways, this not the entire point of this thread, but I just wanted to set this senseless debate to rest.



I feel as if the early 2010s seem quite dated in 2019. Back then, 4K was basically non existant, gaming was less corporate, YouTube wasn't as huge as it is now, iPhones still used the simple design, we were still in the 7th generation of gaming, and we were in the peak of the electopop era.

Maybe because I was only 8-10 years old back then, but I see a big difference.


I feel you on that one. Granted I was ages 14-17 during this period, but even from my perspective the early 2010s are pretty distant. I remember thinking back in 2016, and still feeling this now, that the world of 2012 was a lot closer to the world of 2008 than to 2016, despite them all being equally 4 years in difference. 2013 was the year we entered the 'core' 2010s culturally (not necessarily 'mid' 2010s, but it was still noticeable, even at the time, that things were changing).

It didn't change overnight, but overall 2013 was a pretty transformative year. Electropop music died that year and EDM (mid 2010s/Chainsmokers inspired) took its place. Iconic TV shows that impacted the youth of the 2008-2012 era like Breaking Bad and Jersey Shore had ended. Minimalism became the dominant form factor for UIs & OSs (Windows 8, iOS 7, Android KitKat, etc.) overtaking Skeumorphism, which had been dominant in UIs and OSs since the late 90s. You had the slow phaseout of Seventh Generation video game consoles like the Playstation 3, Xbox 360, and (to a lesser extent), Wii to the newer 8th Generation video game consoles like the Wii U (launching in late 2012), Xbox One (launching in late 2013), and PS4 (also late 2013). The hipster trend in fashion became culturally mainstream (for better or worst, but for 'authentic hipsters', it was the beginning of the end) as the clothes, attitudes, lifestyles, and music choices became huge in the core/mid 2010s, also by killing off the last remnants of the Scene/Emo trend of the Late 2000s/Early 2010s.

Those things come to mind about how paramount 2013 was. Not to mention 2013 being the start of President Barack Obama's second term which was much more politically tumultuous than his first (and what one could contribute to for the rise of President Trump), particularly the 'War on Whistleblowers' on notable individuals like Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. In many ways, 2013 was sort of what laid the groundwork for the 'cultural' 2010s. I don't want to say that the early 2010s (2010-2012/2013) was simply a continuation of the 2000s, because they were also significant enough from that era.

However, the early 2010s, despite the crappy economy, seemed to be a much more simpler time, and much closer in relation to the 2000s than the rest of the 2010s. Comparing ourselves in 2019, I'd even say that 2012 has more in common with 2005 than 2019 itself. In a way, if it weren't for my sh!tty high school years, I'd go back to the early 2010s in a heartbeat over today. Although (minus Trump) the late 2010s have been better than the mid 2010s, I'll give it that.

Before I answer the question for this thread, let me just address the dreaded 'generationology' on this thread. Listen, you two (not gonna mention any names, but ya'll know who you are) are really starting to get on my nerves.....

I'm getting sick and tired also trying to defend myself on subjective qualia, so let's just settle it with this:

This post is from Personality Cafe's generation sections (the exact link being right here; https://www.personalitycafe.com/generations/689890-new-way-defining-generations-4.html)

It's a perfectly reasonable chart because we all assume that peak childhood (aka, the core of one's childhood from a mathematical standpoint) is about age 8, and the same can be said of peak 'youth' (or the core of one's teenaged years from a mathematical standpoint) is about age 16.

Whenever you turned/reached peak childhood or peak teenagedhood is what generation (and subset of respective generation) you belong to. I don't fully agree with this model, at least subjectively. However, besides the other non-controversial range of 1982-2000, 1981-1996 (or roundabouts) seem to be most common on many polling/demographic research firms (Pew, Gallup, Ernest & Young, etc.) due to how concise it is. Heck, if you search 'Millennials' on Google, "1981-1996" is the first date range that usually pops up. Not saying that this is objective and in stone, because I even have some of my own personal reservations. But nonetheless, when you break it down, it does make sense, at least in some capacity. But anyways, this not the entire point of this thread, but I just wanted to set this senseless debate to rest.



I feel you on that one. Granted I was ages 14-17 during this period, but even from my perspective the early 2010s are pretty distant. I remember thinking back in 2016, and still feeling this now, that the world of 2012 was a lot closer to the world of 2008 than to 2016, despite them all being equally 4 years in difference. 2013 was the year we entered the 'core' 2010s culturally (not necessarily 'mid' 2010s, but it was still noticeable, even at the time, that things were changing).

It didn't change overnight, but overall 2013 was a pretty transformative year. Electropop music died that year and EDM (mid 2010s/Chainsmokers inspired) took its place. Iconic TV shows that impacted the youth of the 2008-2012 era like Breaking Bad and Jersey Shore had ended. Minimalism became the dominant form factor for UIs & OSs (Windows 8, iOS 7, Android KitKat, etc.) overtaking Skeumorphism, which had been dominant in UIs and OSs since the late 90s. You had the slow phaseout of Seventh Generation video game consoles like the Playstation 3, Xbox 360, and (to a lesser extent), Wii to the newer 8th Generation video game consoles like the Wii U (launching in late 2012), Xbox One (launching in late 2013), and PS4 (also late 2013). The hipster trend in fashion became culturally mainstream (for better or worst, but for 'authentic hipsters', it was the beginning of the end) as the clothes, attitudes, lifestyles, and music choices became huge in the core/mid 2010s, also by killing off the last remnants of the Scene/Emo trend of the Late 2000s/Early 2010s.

Those things come to mind about how paramount 2013 was. Not to mention 2013 being the start of President Barack Obama's second term which was much more politically tumultuous than his first (and what one could contribute to for the rise of President Trump), particularly the 'War on Whistleblowers' on notable individuals like Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. In many ways, 2013 was sort of what laid the groundwork for the 'cultural' 2010s. I don't want to say that the early 2010s (2010-2012/2013) was simply a continuation of the 2000s, because they were also significant enough from that era.

However, the early 2010s, despite the crappy economy, seemed to be a much more simpler time, and much closer in relation to the 2000s than the rest of the 2010s. Comparing ourselves in 2019, I'd even say that 2012 has more in common with 2005 than 2019 itself. In a way, if it weren't for my sh!tty high school years, I'd go back to the early 2010s in a heartbeat over today. Although (minus Trump) the late 2010s have been better than the mid 2010s, I'll give it that.


That whole list on Personality Cafe is incorrect. All mid 80s borns along with mid 70s borns are Xennials. The late Xers’ childhood started in the 70s and finished in the 80s. I’m not going to get into it here any longer.

Can we please talk about whether the early 2010s are dated or not in this year?

I preferred the early 2000s to the early 2010s, but it looks like the early 2020s will be worst than the early 2010s.  :o

The early 2000s were an easy going era. I wouldn’t say the early 2000s were as simple as the early 90s or early 80s (period I was born in), but they had enough in them to be discussed by pop culturalists for a many years.

2011 and 2012 seem to be dated to me at this hour, but 2013 is not. The first ever Disney movie for Alphas, “Frozen”, was released in that year. “Frozen the Musical” is playing in New York City today, in fact. I hope that answers the OP’s question.

This is generationology on the next level.

This is generationology on the next level.


That was one long post that Zeldafan20 put up. Late Gen Xers became teenagers before the end of the 1980s.

None of us can explain the generations better than The Highest Power.

I guess you would have to bring generationology into this thread to better understand what the 2010s are and to see how different the early 2010s were from the late 2010s. The early 2010s were a wasteland for early and late Zers with very little Alpha culture coming in. At this point in 2019, a core Alpha’s cultural identity is just about complete, if not complete already. We’re not in 2011 anymore when “Minecraft” was brand new.

In 2020, we will all hear about Zers having children (late Alphas and possibly Betas). The cycle will go on.

That was one long post that Zeldafan20 put up. Late Gen Xers became teenagers before the end of the 1980s.

None of us can explain the generations better than The Highest Power.

I guess you would have to bring generationology into this thread to better understand what the 2010s are and to see how different the early 2010s were from the late 2010s. The early 2010s were a wasteland for early and late Zers with very little Alpha culture coming in. At this point in 2019, a core Alpha’s cultural identity is just about complete, if not complete already. We’re not in 2011 anymore when “Minecraft” was brand new.

In 2020, we will all hear about Zers having children (late Alphas and possibly Betas). The cycle will go on.


Dude, you’re the one that’s rambling on.... and now we’re supposed to act like we’re in Generation Alpha culture now? When we literally just became entranced in Generation Z culture not even 2 years ago? And now we’re talking about (wait for it) “Beta’s” :o. Dude we can’t even agree on basic cutoff points for Xers, Millennials, or Zers (although you’d probably disagree) so don’t event get me started on talking about literal babies now... like wtf.

Anyways, on your second point, the early 2000s I agree were better than the early 2010s, no questions asked. However, relatively speaking, the early 2010s are nowhere near as insane (I don’t mean that entirely in a pejorative, but I digress) as the times we’re living in now. We’re now having a serious conversations about Artificial Intelligence on Presidential debates, something that would’ve been a far cry even just 7 years ago :o.

While I do maintain that technologically speaking, the 2010s were nowhere as rapid as the 1990s or 2000s, socially things have progressed pretty substantially.

Dude, you’re the one that’s rambling on.... and now we’re supposed to act like we’re in Generation Alpha culture now? When we literally just became entranced in Generation Z culture not even 2 years ago? And now we’re talking about (wait for it) “Beta’s” :o. Dude we can’t even agree on basic cutoff points for Xers, Millennials, or Zers (although you’d probably disagree) so don’t event get me started on talking about literal babies now... like wtf.

Anyways, on your second point, the early 2000s I agree were better than the early 2010s, no questions asked. However, relatively speaking, the early 2010s are nowhere near as insane (I don’t mean that entirely in a pejorative, but I digress) as the times we’re living in now. We’re now having a serious conversations about Artificial Intelligence on Presidential debates, something that would’ve been a far cry even just 7 years ago :o.

While I do maintain that technologically speaking, the 2010s were nowhere as rapid as the 1990s or 2000s, socially things have progressed pretty substantially.


The only thing associated with Gen Alpha is things like Baby Shark and Paw Patrol. They don't even have an identity yet.

Dude, you’re the one that’s rambling on.... and now we’re supposed to act like we’re in Generation Alpha culture now? When we literally just became entranced in Generation Z culture not even 2 years ago? And now we’re talking about (wait for it) “Beta’s” :o. Dude we can’t even agree on basic cutoff points for Xers, Millennials, or Zers (although you’d probably disagree) so don’t event get me started on talking about literal babies now... like wtf.

Anyways, on your second point, the early 2000s I agree were better than the early 2010s, no questions asked. However, relatively speaking, the early 2010s are nowhere near as insane (I don’t mean that entirely in a pejorative, but I digress) as the times we’re living in now. We’re now having a serious conversations about Artificial Intelligence on Presidential debates, something that would’ve been a far cry even just 7 years ago :o.

While I do maintain that technologically speaking, the 2010s were nowhere as rapid as the 1990s or 2000s, socially things have progressed pretty substantially.


Zeldafan20, you see things differently from me. The cutoff date for 00s kids (Zers) was 2010. Past that point, kid culture was being produced for children that Xennials brought into the world (early Alphas) in the late 00s. You appear to define generations with their young adult and adult culture. Everyone looks at it differently.


The only thing associated with Gen Alpha is things like Baby Shark and Paw Patrol. They don't even have an identity yet.


“Baby Shark” and “Paw Patrol” are the only things associated with people born in the late 2000s. Am I reading that clearly?  :o

So apparently if you don’t have a strong recollection of your life when you were a toddler, you’re either senile or have done drugs.... make it make sense. It’s only online when I see people remember their lives when their parents still measured their age in months. Even if you do somehow remember 9/11 and the Y2K era in clear 4K w Dolby Atmos Audio at age 0-4, you still were experiencing it as toddler. You know damn well 3 year olds aren’t playing what the grown kids were

There are 13 year olds who started high school during the 2008 to 2009 TV season.

I turned 4 in the year when the Space Shuttle Challenger exploded and I didn’t care about hearing it at the time. All that mattered to me at the time were cartoons, animated movies, and toys. I was 3 going on 4 years old.

9/11, the Y2K Bug being largely a myth, and  dial-up internet were all things that early Millennials knew better than late Millennials and early Zers. The things that resonate with Zers from the earliest years of the 2000s are “Spongebob Squarepants”, the second “Pokémon” series (when it jumped the shark), the first ever “Star Wars” prequel, “Teletubbies” (when they lost popularity), “Dora the Explorer”, and the lesser known Furbies that aren’t worth much today.

From anyway you spin it, the Millennial kid culture of ‘98 wasn’t fresh in 2000 like it was in even the spring of 1999.

I’m not only an 80s kid, but a pop culuralist in general. There was no way you could unsee the last breath of Millennial kid culture in malls and libraries even from 1999 to 2001. You couldn’t be alive in 1999 and not know of the existence of “Pokémon”.  :o
“Pokémon” in the US wasn’t the “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles” in 1990, 1991, 1992, or even 1993, but there were posters on EB Games store windows in ‘98 and trading card packs and boosters in stationary store windows in 1999. Unlike the “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles”, “Pokémon” made the cover of Time Magazine in 1999.

‘77 borns are indeed the first ever Xennials. Their childhoods were in the 80s, not the 1970s. I don’t know late Xer who brings up “Nickelodeon’s You Can’t Do That On Television” as a part of their 70s childhood culture.

I don’t think ‘77 borns were that heavy on grunge music. That’s a late Xer thing. Now gangsta music…highly likely. All Xennials in the mid 90s, young and old, listened to gangsta music. You’re right, the new Millennial pre-teen music from the 90s like “Hit Me Baby One More Time” by Britney Spears was not our thing. All Xennials are pro-80s and Early 90s. Not 90s and Early 2000s.


13 year olds who started high school in 2008-2009 school year were born in late 1994. Those born in 1995 were either in 7th or 8th grade unless you live in the UK where high school starts at 11-12 years old.

There’s no way Sarah Michelle Gellar (b. 1977) is a Millennial, she is Gen X straight up.

If the very early 2010’s is Gen z culture than anyone born in 1992 and below would be Gen Z as they all came of age in the 2010’s.

Hold up tho, you stated earlier that pokemon was starting to die in 1999 tho Mr pop culturalist It wasn’t until I corrected you on it that you switched the flip. You couldn’t be alive in 2000 and not know what pokemon was either. The first season of pokemon here in the US was in late 1998 to mid 1999 which was also a huge craze in 2000-2001 as well. Just so turns out i was a kid in 2000 and 2001. Your cherry picking certain cartoons to make your argument align with what you feel is right.

Millennial kid culture was starting to expand in 2000 not decrease. You weren’t even a kid during that time.

Now you’re stating that in order to be a millennial you have to remember the millennium bug. How the hell is someone born in 1995 gonna remotely care about something that was so arbitrary lol

The challenger explosion was big but no where near as big as 9/11. 9/11 caused war, homeland security, TSA, etc all throughout my childhood. I witnessed our country go to war with Iraq when I was 6. The challenger explosion does not compare to the long lasting effects and events that 9/11 caused throughout the 2000’s. You’re giving your subjective experience and trying to compare it to mine with 9/11 and it’s just not gonna work that way lol.

So apparently if you don’t have a strong recollection of your life when you were a toddler, you’re either senile or have done drugs.... make it make sense. It’s only online when I see people remember their lives when their parents still measured their age in months. Even if you do somehow remember 9/11 and the Y2K era in clear 4K w Dolby Atmos Audio at age 0-4, you still were experiencing it as toddler. You know damn well 3 year olds aren’t playing what the grown kids were

Personally I remember a little bit when I was 2 and 3 but not a whole lot. My memories started crystallizing when I was 4. But I can definitely recall certain moments from ages 2 and 3.

The whole 1995 cutoff just doesn't make much sense but maybe I'm biased because I was born in January of 1995 lol.

13 year olds who started high school in 2008-2009 school year were born in late 1994. Those born in 1995 were either in 7th or 8th grade unless you live in the UK where high school starts at 11-12 years old.

There’s no way Sarah Michelle Gellar (b. 1977) is a Millennial, she is Gen X straight up.

If the very early 2010’s is Gen z culture than anyone born in 1992 and below would be Gen Z as they all came of age in the 2010’s.

Hold up tho, you stated earlier that pokemon was starting to die in 1999 tho Mr pop culturalist It wasn’t until I corrected you on it that you switched the flip. You couldn’t be alive in 2000 and not know what pokemon was either. The first season of pokemon here in the US was in late 1998 to mid 1999 which was also a huge craze in 2000-2001 as well. Just so turns out i was a kid in 2000 and 2001. Your cherry picking certain cartoons to make your argument align with what you feel is right.

Millennial kid culture was starting to expand in 2000 not decrease. You weren’t even a kid during that time.

Now you’re stating that in order to be a millennial you have to remember the millennium bug. How the hell is someone born in 1995 gonna remotely care about something that was so arbitrary lol

The challenger explosion was big but no where near as big as 9/11. 9/11 caused war, homeland security, TSA, etc all throughout my childhood. I witnessed our country go to war with Iraq when I was 6. The challenger explosion does not compare to the long lasting effects and events that 9/11 caused throughout the 2000’s. You’re giving your subjective experience and trying to compare it to mine with 9/11 and it’s just not gonna work that way lol.


The Rundown:

XYers

Born: Mid 70s to Mid 80s

Decade Their Childhood Cultural Identity was Formed In: In the 1980s

Young Adult to Adult Culture: The 90s to 2000s


Yers

Born: Late 80s to Mid 90s

Decade Their Childhood Culture Identity was Formed In: The 90s

Young Adult to Adult Culture: The 2000s to 2010s


Zers

Born: Late 90s to Mid 00s

Decade Their Childhood Cultural Identity was Formed In: The 2000s

Young Adult to Adult Culture: The 2010s to 2020s

Early Alphas

Born: Late 00s to Mid 10s

Decade Their Childhood Cultural Identity was Formed In: The 2010s

Young Adult to Adult Culture: The 2020s to 2030s

Late Alphas

Born: Late 2010s to Mid 2020s

Decade Their Childhood Cultural Identity will be Formed In: The 2020s

Young Adult to Adult Culture: The 2030s to 2040s



Can we stop all of this generationology talk please and get back on subject?

Personally I remember a little bit when I was 2 and 3 but not a whole lot. My memories started crystallizing when I was 4. But I can definitely recall certain moments from ages 2 and 3.


I don’t know of any ‘97 borns who can tell me that they remember doing as little as watching one episode of “Pokémon” in 1999. The first Gameboy “Pokémon” games and the earliest series are all filed under Millennial childhood culture. Everything after 1998 is Zer childhood culture.

Oh I totally agree. I believe 1998-2002 was really not that different . The Matrix 1 and 2, Blade 1 and 2, fashion was stagnant, Rugrats movie in 1998 then Rugrats in Paris in late 2000 early 2001. Hell in early 2001 1998 wasn't even within a 3 year radius yet.

Sailormokn started in 1995 in the US and was a complete fail here only releasing 65 episodes. By 2001 the show was dead. In 2003 when I was in first grade pioneer productions started selling episodes on DVD.

Cartoons like catdog (1998), Rocketpower (1999), Wildthornberries (1999), ed ed and eddy (1999), etc all peaked in the early 2000’s in terms of popularity.However those were all in my era of cartoons. If I’m considered Gen z, then why are those cartoons mainly disputed as millennial cartoons when they reached peak popularity when i was in elementary school ? I agree,  Pokemon was big in 2000. I remember going to see the movie in theaters. That was the first movie I remember seeing in theaters. I remember the pokemon pop-tarts around that time too. I feel like Retrolover just doesn’t want to claim a part of the eaely 2000’s as millennial territory because he wants to appear hip by associating himself with highly over romanticized/ glorified decades that didn’t shape the millennial generation as a whole.

??? If I'm interpreting what you're saying about Sailormoon correctly, then you've got it all wrong. ;D

Sailormoon was very popular, what are you talking about? It was still popular post 2000, it was just taken off air because the rights had expired (that's the only reason I called it a "1998 - 2000" show because CN) but it was not "dead." That's why they were still selling SM movies in Blockbuster. There were kids walking around with all types of Sailormoon backpacks and other merchandise.

I don't agree with Retro that anything that came out in the 2000s is generation Z. I don't really care to argue about it though tbh.

??? If I'm interpreting what you're saying about Sailormoon correctly, then you've got it all wrong. ;D

Sailormoon was very popular, what are you talking about? It was still popular post 2000, it was just taken off air because the rights had expired (that's the only reason I called it a "1998 - 2000" show because CN) but it was not "dead." That's why they were still selling SM movies in Blockbuster. There were kids walking around with all types of Sailormoon backpacks and other merchandise.

I don't agree with Retro that anything that came out in the 2000s is generation Z. I don't really care to argue about it though tbh.


Sailormoon was still on the air in the early 2000s. I vividly remember watching it on Toonami back in 2001-2002. It may have been past its peak in popularity, but it was still there nonetheless.

Anyways, I agree, Retrolover is straight up trolling. He claims that childhood culture is important to determine generations (which I don't necessarily discard, but I do think he puts WAY too much emphasis on that, but I digress), but then at the same time excludes 1997 borns from being Millennials and gladly includes 1995/1996 borns as Millennials because we happen to had a year or two of early childhood memories in the 90s, which is a weird sense of reasoning for that cutoff to make. But once again, I don't think it's that cut & dry, hence why it's pointless arguing with him.

Just please stick to the topic of this thread, which is how dated the early 2010s are in comparison to today. I'll admit, I guess I inflamed the fires a little bit more, but only in the hopes (misguided though) of just ending this circular argument.


@Si_1997, just save your breath and focus on the topic of the thread, no offense you're making yourself look bad by falling for the bait....

So apparently if you don’t have a strong recollection of your life when you were a toddler, you’re either senile or have done drugs.... make it make sense. It’s only online when I see people remember their lives when their parents still measured their age in months. Even if you do somehow remember 9/11 and the Y2K era in clear 4K w Dolby Atmos Audio at age 0-4, you still were experiencing it as toddler. You know damn well 3 year olds aren’t playing what the grown kids were

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Sailormoon was still on the air in the early 2000s. I vividly remember watching it on Toonami back in 2001-2002. It may have been past its peak in popularity, but it was still there nonetheless.

Yes, it was still on air in the early 2000s but it stopped airing on Toonami around 2001 though, with some reruns thereafter. The bulk of the episodes took place in 1998 - 2000. Even after it had stopped airing, it certainly was not "dead." We are not going to do Sailormoon like that.

3 and 4 year olds are not toddlers, and it seems like most people outside this site remembers both those ages good

Yes it was still on air in the early 2000s but it stopped airing on Toonami around 2001 though.


Could've sworn it was on the air still in 2002? I guess I could be wrong haha. I reckon Sailor Moon was your favorite anime from back then, right?

Could've sworn it was on the air still in 2002? I guess I could be wrong haha. I reckon Sailor Moon was your favorite anime from back then, right?

Yes, it was my favorite anime. It was also my very first anime (even before Pokemon). I edited my post though. CN still aired reruns of it here and there but the bulk of the series took place in 1998 - 2000.

I was extremely disappointed when they took it off the airwaves. The only way for me to watch SM episodes at that point was to rent DVDs. We didn't have a DVD player at the time however, and so I was sh*t out of luck for a while  8-P.

How is 1997-2006 Gen Z? That is too short for a generation. They should last 15-20 years. Maybe 1997-2012 or 2000-2017 could be good starts for Z.

Sarah Michelle Gellar entertained Xennials and Gen Yers in her “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” series.

SMG is an early XYer. Not all XYers are core or late XYers, the line had to start somewhere.

I don’t know of any ‘97 borns who can tell me that they remember doing as little as watching one episode of “Pokémon” in 1999. The first Gameboy “Pokémon” games and the earliest series are all filed under Millennial childhood culture. Everything after 1998 is Zer childhood culture.


Neitger would a 17 year ild millennial in 1999 but ok ?. This is stupid lol. You’re gatekeeping a generation by getting it confused with being a 90’s kid. No body wants to be a 90’s kid lol

3 and 4 year olds are not toddlers, and it seems like most people outside this site remembers both those ages good


Exactly!!!!

How is 1997-2006 Gen Z? That is too short for a generation. They should last 15-20 years. Maybe 1997-2012 or 2000-2017 could be good starts for Z.


I agree with that.

??? If I'm interpreting what you're saying about Sailormoon correctly, then you've got it all wrong. ;D


Sailormoon was very popular, what are you talking about? It was still popular post 2000, it was just taken off air because the rights had expired (that's the only reason I called it a "1998 - 2000" show because CN) but it was not "dead." That's why they were still selling SM movies in Blockbuster. There were kids walking around with all types of Sailormoon backpacks and other merchandise.

I don't agree with Retro that anything that came out in the 2000s is generation Z. I don't really care to argue about it though tbh.


Oh no I totally agree Sailormoon was super popular, heck I was Sailormoon for halloween when I was 4 (2001) I even had the shampoo and hairspray as well as an umbrella in kindergarten..But in the US it didn’t do so well which is why it was cut short compared to Japan. I do agree sailormoon was popular but it did poorly as far as views hence the heavy manufacturing.

How is 1997-2006 Gen Z? That is too short for a generation. They should last 15-20 years. Maybe 1997-2012 or 2000-2017 could be good starts for Z.


2000 is terrible year to start Gen Z. What really separates people born from 1997-1999 from people born from 2000-2003, besides the fact that one was born in the 90s and one was born in the 2000s? They all had very simlar childhoods and teenagee experiences. Gen Z unquestionably starts in 1997.Starting Gen Z any other year is totally ridiculous at this point.

3 and 4 year olds are not toddlers, and it seems like most people outside this site remembers both those ages good


3 and 4 year are still kind of toddlers. Sure some people can remember being 3 and 4 year old,however I don't really considered to be childhood.

So apparently if you don’t have a strong recollection of your life when you were a toddler, you’re either senile or have done drugs.... make it make sense. It’s only online when I see people remember their lives when their parents still measured their age in months. Even if you do somehow remember 9/11 and the Y2K era in clear 4K w Dolby Atmos Audio at age 0-4, you still were experiencing it as toddler. You know damn well 3 year olds aren’t playing what the grown kids were


A toddler is 12-36 months. By the time a child reaches 3 they are no longer toddlers and have reached the ability to retain long term info well enough to enter preschool. Since when have  3-4 year olds been toddlers? Make THAT make sense first. You mean to tell me a 3 year old wouldn’t be in the correct cohort for cartoons back in 2000 ? Lol let’s get that right. Nobody said “3 years olds were doing what big kids were doing in 2000” we’re talking about culture and cultural identity along with shared experiences amongst a generation.The  kid/pop culture in the late 90’s and early 2000’s was highly manufactured, so to say that my experiences were in invalid at that age would be false.

3 and 4 year are still kind of toddlers. Sure some people can remember being 3 and 4 year old,however I don't really considered to be childhood.


But it scientifically and biologically is. Here comes the reddit troll yall

A toddler is 12-36 months. By the time a child reaches 3 they are no longer toddlers and have reached the ability to retain long term info well enough to enter preschool. Since when have  3-4 year olds been toddlers? Make THAT make sense first. You mean to tell me a 3 year old wouldn’t be in the correct cohort for cartoons back in 2000 ? Lol let’s get that right. Nobody said “3 years olds were doing what big kids were doing in 2000” we’re talking about culture and cultural identity along with shared experiences amongst a generation.The  kid/pop culture in the late 90’s and early 2000’s was highly manufactured, so to say that my experiences were in invalid at that age would be false.


Once again 3 years old is really not childhood.3 Years olds are usually in Preschool watching Preschool shows.Being 3 and 4 year old is more like toddlerhood than childhood. Childhood is when someone participating in the Kid culture and that's where childhood memories form. That why most people being to vividly remember things at 5 years old. Also it seems like you are to be trying really hard to explain why are you can relate to millennials while separating yourself from people born in the early and mid 2000s,which is just sad and pathetic. I doubt someone born in 1997 is going to remember much before 2005 or possibly even 2006,but yet,you are pretending as if you know much about the early 2000s. Just stop it already. The last people to remember the early 2000s would be people born in 1996,which one of many reasons why the millennial Generation unquestionably ends in 1996.

3 and 4 year are still kind of toddlers. Sure some people can remember being 3 and 4 year old,however I don't really considered to be childhood.

So, in your opinion, what ages constitute childhood?

So, in your opinion, what ages constitute childhood?


I say 5-10 years old would be childhood.When someone is 5-10 years old,they would be experiencing the Kid culture, and this where childhood memories form. 5-10 years old are also mostly likely in Elementary School as well.I say 3 and 4 year olds would be toddlers becasue they are in Preschool Watching Preschool shows, and they wouldn't be able to participate in the Kids culture. I see 11 and 12 year olds are pre teens because they would likely in Middle School and usually at that age,the person usually start losing interest in the Kids culture and start getting into the Pop Culture.

Once again 3 years old is really not childhood.3 Years olds are usually in Preschool watching Preschool shows.Being 3 and 4 year old is more like toddlerhood than childhood. Childhood is when someone participating in the Kid culture and that's where childhood memories form. That why most people being to vividly remember things at 5 years old. Also it seems like you are to be trying really hard to explain why are you can relate to millennials while separating yourself from people born in the early and mid 2000s,which is just sad and pathetic. I doubt someone born in 1997 is going to remember much before 2005 or possibly even 2006,but yet,you are pretending as if you know much about the early 2000s. Just stop it already. The last people to remember the early 2000s would be people born in 1996,which one of many reasons why the millennial Generation unquestionably ends in 1996.


Your cultural identity begins to form at ages 3-4. Someone ages 3-4 would be in the proper age demographic for Nickelodeon and cartoon network in 2000. We get it you love 1996.

Once again 3 years old is really not childhood.3 Years olds are usually in Preschool watching Preschool shows.Being 3 and 4 year old is more like toddlerhood than childhood. Childhood is when someone participating in the Kid culture and that's where childhood memories form. That why most people being to vividly remember things at 5 years old. Also it seems like you are to be trying really hard to explain why are you can relate to millennials while separating yourself from people born in the early and mid 2000s,which is just sad and pathetic. I doubt someone born in 1997 is going to remember much before 2005 or possibly even 2006,but yet,you are pretending as if you know much about the early 2000s. Just stop it already. The last people to remember the early 2000s would be people born in 1996,which one of many reasons why the millennial Generation unquestionably ends in 1996.


A pre schooler is apart of childhood. You remember experiences from pre school age and cartoons. Nickelodeon and cartoon Network were both inclusive shows for pre school children.

The Rundown:

XYers

Born: Mid 70s to Mid 80s

Decade Their Childhood Cultural Identity was Formed In: In the 1980s

Young Adult to Adult Culture: The 90s to 2000s


Yers

Born: Late 80s to Mid 90s

Decade Their Childhood Culture Identity was Formed In: The 90s

Young Adult to Adult Culture: The 2000s to 2010s


Zers

Born: Late 90s to Mid 00s

Decade Their Childhood Cultural Identity was Formed In: The 2000s

Young Adult to Adult Culture: The 2010s to 2020s

Early Alphas

Born: Late 00s to Mid 10s

Decade Their Childhood Cultural Identity was Formed In: The 2010s

Young Adult to Adult Culture: The 2020s to 2030s

Late Alphas

Born: Late 2010s to Mid 2020s

Decade Their Childhood Cultural Identity will be Formed In: The 2020s

Young Adult to Adult Culture: The 2030s to 2040s



Can we stop all of this generationology talk please and get back on subject?


Your gen z section is not true. I was an adult for 5 years in the 2010’s. I was a teen for all of Obamas first term minus 2009 and I was an adult before trump was even in office. My teen years peaked in the early 2010’s as i was 16 in mid 2013. I’m sorry but this does not add up.

I say 5-10 years old would be childhood.When someone is 5-10 years old,they would be experiencing the Kid culture, and this where childhood memories form. 5-10 years old are also mostly likely in Elementary School as well.I say 3 and 4 year olds would be toddlers becasue they are in Preschool Watching Preschool shows, and they wouldn't be able to participate in the Kids culture. I see 11 and 12 year olds are pre teens because they would likely in Middle School and usually at that age,the person usually start losing interest in the Kids culture and start getting into the Pop Culture.

The most part I agree. For me personally, I feel the most significant part of my childhood took place from 5 - 9. However, as a whole I consider ages 4 - 10 my entire childhood. I may even throw age 3 in there but the later half of 3. Around age 10/11 I started growing out of kid culture.

The most part I agree. For me personally, I feel the most significant part of my childhood took place from 5 - 9. However, as a whole I consider ages 4 - 10 my entire childhood. I may even throw age 3 in there but the later half of 3. Around age 10/11 I started growing out of kid culture.


This guy is really something. He goes on reddit and different message boards to hate on 1997 babies. He has this bizarre theory that 1996 and 1997 babies are completely different because 1996 babies were in kindergarten on 9/11 while 1997 babies were in pre k. He thinks that parental guidance changed after 9/11 so people born in 1997 don’t remember anything before 2006.

Your cultural identity begins to form at ages 3-4. Someone ages 3-4 would be in the proper age demographic for Nickelodeon and cartoon network in 2000. We get it you love 1996.


More like Nick Jr lmao. Children’s tv channels like Nick and Disney Channel are mostly marketed to 6-12 year olds, not preschoolers

Anyways even if you remember your life from 0-2, your childhood experiences are much more significant when you're 6-11.. Like that’s pretty much a fact

Going back to the topic, yes I do think the early 2010s are dated, hell even the mid 2010s are dated, but not in a drastic way..

Late 2010s | Early 2010s

Trap-pop | Electropop
Cloudrap | Dubstep
Bedroompop | Hipster/Indiepop
Streaming Music | Download Music
Bedroompop/Gen Z aesthetic | Hipster/Millennial Aesthetic
Trump Era | Obama Era

More like Nick Jr lmao. Children’s tv channels like Nick and Disney Channel are mostly marketed to 6-12 year olds, not preschoolers

Anyways even if you remember your life from 0-2, your childhood experiences are much more significant when you're 6-11.. Like that’s pretty much a fact


No they’re not. Disney channel is marketed towards 4-14 years olds. What 6 year old in first grade is still watching barney and sesame street ? I never said I remembered my life at 0-2. I said by age 3 I started retaining memories and some of those memories included pop culture. There’s no way I would consider middle school apart of my core childhood lol. Childhood experiences like getting my first bike with training wheels at 4, learning how to ride it without training wheels at 5, getting my razzor scooter for my 6th birthday, starting elementary school, loosing my first tooth at 5, breaking my arm at 7, watching the cheetah girls premiere when I was 6 back in 2003, going to ymca summer camp in 2002 and 2003, riding my first looped coaster at 6 years old, going to Disneyland when I was 3 and meeting mickey and ariel, going to Hawaii summer of 2002, el salvador  december 2003, dance competitions back in 2004 and going to orlando, Disneyland’s 50th anniversary in 2005, etc. those are childhood experiences that are strong to me not some cartoons on Nickelodeon.

A 5 year old back in 2002 would’ve been in the proper age demographic for shows like Kim possible, proud family, cat dog, Hey Arnold, courage the cowardly dog, sponge bob, ed ed and eddy, powerpuff girls, dexters lab, etc. stop trying to act like my experiences are invalid as a way to make yourself feel better. Have a nice day

No they’re not. Disney channel is marketed towards 4-14 years olds. What 6 year old in first grade is still watching barney and sesame street ? I never said I remembered my life at 0-2. I said by age 3 I started retaining memories and some of those memories included pop culture. There’s no way I would consider middle school apart of my core childhood lol. Childhood experiences like getting my first bike with training wheels at 4, learning how to ride it without training wheels at 5, getting my razzor scooter for my 6th birthday, starting elementary school, loosing my first tooth at 5, breaking my arm at 7, watching the cheetah girls premiere when I was 6 back in 2003, going to ymca summer camp in 2002 and 2003, riding my first looped coaster at 6 years old, going to Disneyland when I was 3 and meeting mickey and ariel, going to Hawaii summer of 2002, el salvador  december 2003, dance competitions back in 2004 and going to orlando, Disneyland’s 50th anniversary in 2005, etc. those are childhood experiences that are strong to me not some cartoons on Nickelodeon.

A 5 year old back in 2002 would’ve been in the proper age demographic for shows like Kim possible, proud family, cat dog, Hey Arnold, courage the cowardly dog, sponge bob, ed ed and eddy, powerpuff girls, dexters lab, etc. stop trying to act like my experiences are invalid as a way to make yourself feel better. Have a nice day


Who said anything about Barney and Sesame street?? those never aired on Nick or Disney Channel first of all. and it seems like you’re just arguing to argue. the obsession chile.... How is 2/3 childhood but 11 isn’t? Anyways....

Who said anything about Barney and Sesame street?? those never aired on Nick or Disney Channel first of all. and it seems like you’re just arguing to argue. the obsession chile.... How is 2/3 childhood but 11 isn’t? Anyways....


This guy is ether a troll or some ignorant 1997 baby that wants to dissociate him/herself from early and mid 2000s babies.This is ridiculous. 3 and 4 year olds are not children but toddlers and that's a fact. I doubt people born in 1997 is going even to remember much of anything before 2006,despite what this guy claims to be "childhood".

Who said anything about Barney and Sesame street?? those never aired on Nick or Disney Channel first of all. and it seems like you’re just arguing to argue. the obsession chile.... How is 2/3 childhood but 11 isn’t? Anyways....


I added barney and sesame street to accentuate preschool shows. 3-12 is childhood scientifically and biologically. I never said age 2 is childhood. You start preschool at age 3 which is when memories become stronger and long term memory is retained for informational storing hence childhood memories. Ages 10- 11 is when  adolescence begins/ puberty. Anything before middle school  is what i consider to be my core childhood ages 4-10 (2001-2007).You tried to start some sheesh by putting words in my mouth to manipulate the debate and make yourself sound better. I know your kind. Once again, have a great day

This guy is ether a troll or some ignorant 1997 baby that wants to dissociate him/herself from early and mid 2000s babies.This is ridiculous. 3 and 4 year olds are not children but toddlers and that's a fact. To be real,I doubt people born in 1997 is going to remember much before 2006,despite what this guy says.

What? A 1997 born can easily remember before 2006.... What are you talking about? They were 9 in 2006.... You have no memories before you were 9?

Yes, it was my favorite anime. It was also my very first anime (even before Pokemon). I edited my post though. CN still aired reruns of it here and there but the bulk of the series took place in 1998 - 2000.

I was extremely disappointed when they took it off the airwaves. The only way for me to watch SM episodes at that point was to rent DVDs. We didn't have a DVD player at the time however, and so I was sh*t out of luck for a while  8-P.


Yeah I just looked on the Wikipedia page for Cartoon Network programming, and the show was still on the air until 2002 (in which it was reruns by that point). And yeah, my older sister 5 years my senior was in love with that show. She had the VHS tapes and some of the Manga back in the day. I remember sneakily watching that show back in like 2001/2002 when it would be shown as reruns. Obviously as a young boy, it reeked of 'cooties', but it was still a guilty pleasure of mine. Looking back it seemed to be a pretty good show.

But when it came to early 2000s anime, nothing (at least to me) came close to melodramatic/soap opera intense action like Dragon Ball Z 8).



I added barney and sesame street to accentuate preschool shows. 3-12 is childhood scientifically and biologically. I never said age 2 is childhood. You start preschool at age 3 which is when memories become stronger and long term memory is retained for informational storing hence childhood memories. Ages 10- 11 is when  adolescence begins/ puberty. Anything before middle school  is what i consider to be my core childhood ages 4-10 (2001-2007).You tried to start some sheesh by putting words in my mouth to manipulate the debate and make yourself sound better. I know your kind. Once again, have a great day


I get what you're saying. Ages 9/10-12 are what I consider 'Late childhood', as in you're still undeniably a kid and will likely still be into kid centric things, but it's also when you start to gradually grow out of that stuff and in favor of more mass produced pop culture geared towards teens/youth.

Most people start to become self aware of pop culture outside of just things geared towards children, even if they may still prefer the culture of the former, around when they hit their 'double-digits' (hence why we consider this age group to be 'tweens'). That self awareness is crucial in the start of what is considered puberty. Hence why I typically start the 'youth' period (essentially your 'coming of age years') at around age 9, with them ending at around age 24 (you're mentally an adult by age 25, so ages 9-24 are your essential years for mental, physical, sexual, and spiritual development).

So even though you were still in your childhood during the 2006/2007-2009 period, you weren't necessarily in your 'core' childhood anymore. But I do agree with @Xenzue, that you're much more of a 'child' at age 11 than you are at age 2, especially given the fact most people can't really make outstanding memories of their lives prior to the age of 3.

Going back to the topic, yes I do think the early 2010s are dated, hell even the mid 2010s are dated, but not in a drastic way..

Late 2010s | Early 2010s

Trap-pop | Electropop
Cloudrap | Dubstep
Bedroompop | Hipster/Indiepop
Streaming Music | Download Music
Bedroompop/Gen Z aesthetic | Hipster/Millennial Aesthetic
Trump Era | Obama Era


Let me add some more:

Seventh Generation of Video Games | Eighth Generation of Video Games
1080p is industry standard | 4K is industry standard
Skeumorphism | Minimalism
'Legacy TV' on last legs | Era of 'binge watching'
Unemployment rate hovering around 8% | Unemployment rate now at a record 3.8%
'Tea Party' Movement (right wing populism revolting against Democratic political order) | '#Resistance' Movement (left wing populism revolting against Republican political order)

I added barney and sesame street to accentuate preschool shows. 3-12 is childhood scientifically and biologically. I never said age 2 is childhood. You start preschool at age 3 which is when memories become stronger and long term memory is retained for informational storing hence childhood memories. Ages 10- 11 is when  adolescence begins/ puberty. Anything before middle school  is what i consider to be my core childhood ages 4-10 (2001-2007).You tried to start some sheesh by putting words in my mouth to manipulate the debate and make yourself sound better. I know your kind. Once again, have a great day


I miss John Titor. She was a bit eccentric, yes, but at least she was a visionary, an icon, and most importantly she knew how to make threads interesting. Her replies meant something. You really can’t say that for anybody

Anyways when do y’all think your core biological young adulthood ends? I’m going for early 30s because that’s when it starts to hurt to get back in shape.

Yeah I just looked on the Wikipedia page for Cartoon Network programming, and the show was still on the air until 2002 (in which it was reruns by that point). And yeah, my older sister 5 years my senior was in love with that show. She had the VHS tapes and some of the Manga back in the day. I remember sneakily watching that show back in like 2001/2002 when it would be shown as reruns. Obviously as a young boy, it reeked of 'cooties', but it was still a guilty pleasure of mine. Looking back it seemed to be a pretty good show.

But when it came to early 2000s anime, nothing (at least to me) came close to melodramatic/soap opera intense action like Dragon Ball Z 8).


I get what you're saying. Ages 9/10-12 are what I consider 'Late childhood', as in you're still undeniably a kid and will likely still be into kid centric things, but it's also when you start to gradually grow out of that stuff and in favor of more mass produced pop culture geared towards teens/youth.

Most people start to become self aware of pop culture outside of just things geared towards children, even if they may still prefer the culture of the former, around when they hit their 'double-digits' (hence why we consider this age group to be 'tweens'). That self awareness is crucial in the start of what is considered puberty. Hence why I typically start the 'youth' period (essentially your 'coming of age years') at around age 9, with them ending at around age 24 (you're mentally an adult by age 25, so ages 9-24 are your essential years for mental, physical, sexual, and spiritual development).

So even though you were still in your childhood during the 2006/2007-2009 period, you weren't necessarily in your 'core' childhood anymore. But I do agree with @Xenzue, that you're much more of a 'child' at age 11 than you are at age 2, especially given the fact most people can't really make outstanding memories of their lives prior to the age of 3.


I agree but why does everyone keep saying that i stated childhood starts at 2 ? I don’t remember sheesh from the age of 2 other than 1 or two vague memories. My memories of culture started to appear at age 3 when britney released oops I did it again and baja men came out with who let the dogs out. We also have to remember that pop culture and childhood culture of the y2k era was super manufactured. From britney spears dolls to nsync dolls and destiny's child appearing in sesame street back in 2001, culture was fed to children. I was in preschool during that time. For me age 11 is childhood however it is also the beginning of very early adolescence. At age 11 you are a middle schooler that starts to detach from childhood trends and become more cognizant of teenage trends.  When I was age 11 I was watching degrassi more so than Disney channel and cartoons. I started going to the mall with my friends or movies with my friends. I feel like being culturally aware in double digits is more directed to kids who grew up a little uncultured. Plus being mire culturally aware as a 10 years ild meabs that you are more of an adolescent by that point rather than a kid ?I am a half black, half white girl, so growing up I looked up to destiny’s child, danced in dance battles across the US starting at age 7. I was introduced to culture as my parents were young and my sister was already in 15 by 2000.

Anyways when do y’all think your core biological young adulthood ends? I’m going for early 30s because that’s when it starts to hurt to get back in shape.


30 is when your body starts to decline, but very very slowly as to be imperceptible. The ageing process only accelerates from there.

25 is when your body is set in stone, though. Whenever I went to the doctor's at 25, they would always mention my age and mention that my body is no longer changing, so don't expect your body to adapt easily to a new way of doing things e.g. wearing glasses :-[

25 is when your body is set in stone, though. Whenever I went to the doctor's at 25, they would always mention my age and mention that my body is no longer changing, so don't expect your body to adapt easily to a new way of doing things e.g. wearing glasses :-[

Lmfaooooo maybe if you're a man  ;D.

Lmfaooooo maybe if you're a man  ;D.


I still can't help but sometimes eat the breakfast I made when I was 6 years old, which is three slices of Wonderbread that I dunk into a cup of tea. Old habits die hard.

30 is when your body starts to decline, but very very slowly as to be imperceptible. The ageing process only accelerates from there.

25 is when your body is set in stone, though. Whenever I went to the doctor's at 25, they would always mention my age and mention that my body is no longer changing, so don't expect your body to adapt easily to a new way of doing things e.g. wearing glasses :-[


I agree. Hence why your officially considered an adult by age 25. Physically, mentally, sexually, etc. etc.

I’m 2 years away from 25 and I’m not looking forward to it :-\\.

Yeah the early 2010s do seem dated to me. For me even in 2015-2017, at the time I didn't think they feel too dated, but it was 2018-2019 where it really hit me how dated they were, with the recent surge of Minecraft nostalgia videos, people praising 2008-2014 pop music as the golden age, and Doge making a comeback, lol. I think that due to the internet, the eras might be advancing faster and making things dated quicker, although it's debatable.

The funny thing is (and just a side-note, don't wanna get into a debate or people gritting their teeth over this, lol) I'm now noticing more and more people online say "2010-2013 was basically just a continuation of the 2000s culture", perhaps younger people. Which I find ironic since people in 2015 were saying the exact opposite, that the 2010s culture arguably "started early" in 2008-2009, with electropop, Obama, Recession, iPhones, Facebook, HDTV, James Cameron's Avatar, etc.

In retrospect I think 2008-2013 might be seen as a "what the whole 2010s could've been" "what-if" type era. Similar to what Jordan observed about 1998-2003 being a "what-if" for the 2000s. Heck, 2018-2023 might be a "what-if" for the 2020s, if culture makes some big changes by 2023-2024.

I agree. Hence why your officially considered an adult by age 25. Physically, mentally, sexually, etc. etc.

I’m 2 years away from 25 and I’m not looking forward to it :-\\.

I'm one year away and I am looking forward to it because I will have more freedom. I will have a job, my own place, be out of school, etc. And you're still young enough to go out and have fun if you're into that. 25 is like the prime age I think.

I'm one year away and I am looking forward to it because I will have more freedom. I will have a job, my own place, be out of school, etc. And you're still young enough to go out and have fun if you're into that. 25 is like the prime age I think.


25 was the best year of my life. I am trying in vain to make being 26 better ;D But I am definitely happier being 26 than 23, that year was  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X (to be fair it was 2016)

25 was the best year of my life. I am trying in vain to make being 26 better ;D But I am definitely happier being 26 than 23, that year was  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X (to be fair it was 2016)

I didn't like age 23 all that much either. 

Yeah the early 2010s do seem dated to me. For me even in 2015-2017, at the time I didn't think they feel too dated, but it was 2018-2019 where it really hit me how dated they were, with the recent surge of Minecraft nostalgia videos, people praising 2008-2014 pop music as the golden age, and Doge making a comeback, lol. I think that due to the internet, the eras might be advancing faster and making things dated quicker, although it's debatable.

The funny thing is (and just a side-note, don't wanna get into a debate or people gritting their teeth over this, lol) I'm now noticing more and more people online say "2010-2013 was basically just a continuation of the 2000s culture", perhaps younger people. Which I find ironic since people in 2015 were saying the exact opposite, that the 2010s culture arguably "started early" in 2008-2009, with electropop, Obama, Recession, iPhones, Facebook, HDTV, James Cameron's Avatar, etc.

In retrospect I think 2008-2013 might be seen as a "what the whole 2010s could've been" "what-if" type era. Similar to what Jordan observed about 1998-2003 being a "what-if" for the 2000s. Heck, 2018-2023 might be a "what-if" for the 2020s, if culture makes some big changes by 2023-2024.


I really don't think 2010-2013 was a continuation of the 00s, it had it's own vibe. Sure, there were leftovers from the late 00s but 2010s trends were dominant throughout the era.

25 was the best year of my life. I am trying in vain to make being 26 better ;D But I am definitely happier being 26 than 23, that year was  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X (to be fair it was 2016)

Yup, not a huge fan of my early 20s. Mid 20s are much better.  ;)

I really don't think 2010-2013 was a continuation of the 00s, it had it's own vibe. Sure, there were leftovers from the late 00s but 2010s trends were dominant throughout the era.


It was a Zer wasteland with Alpha culture sprouting up for the first time.

Yup, not a huge fan of my early 20s. Mid 20s are much better.  ;)


My early 20s have been pretty good. But, ditto on 23 sucking.....

My 'Jordan Year' hasn't been terrible, per say, but noticeably lacking in excitement in comparison to when I was 21/22. Idk, if you guys had that same feeling or not. Perhaps its because 23 is that sort of weird 'transitional period' in your life. You're out of college and (hopefully) in the workforce fully, but many still (especially in this 'gig economy' we're living in) are forced to still go back to school for their Post Graduate education (Med school, Law school, MBA, etc.). You're still technically in your early 20s, but most of your friend group and your own mindset is more akin to someone in their mid 20s. You start to move out on your own and pay your own bills, but your parents and authority figures still treat you as a child.

Its just overall a very weird age to be in :-\\.


And I am typing this as I am supposed to be studying for my LSAT :-X :-X :-X

Yeah.

I noticed this throughout the whole decade that after 2012, music slowly becomes darker over the years, until late 2018 fully encapsulated that.


Yeah I noticed this too. Things seemed to change after 2012.

I agree, 2007 is noticeably dated for me too. In fact it's been dated for a while now. It was like the last year before we were in a new world. When you look at video clips from 2007 even the quality of the video looks lower like it was from the past. And you can see many people still hung onto their CRT TVs in 2007, and Windows XP was the default OS for almost everyone too.

Also how can I forget, for a good chunk of the year IPhones didn't even exist in 2007! If you go back and watch videos from 2007 you will immediately notice how dated it is. 2007 is definitely very dated now without doubt in my opinion.

I do see the early 2010s as pretty dated but I can also see why someone may not think it is dated. I always see the very early 2010s and late '00s as the beginnings of what we have now and what we consider normal today. Everything we consider normal and use now was considered fresh, new, and exciting in the early 2010s and late '00s. When the whole smartphone app ecosystem came out and "there's an app for that" and how it looked exciting and new. Today it is just a normal part of life.

Also how can I forget, for a good chunk of the year IPhones didn't even exist in 2007! If you go back and watch videos from 2007 you will immediately notice how dated it is. 2007 is definitely very dated now without doubt in my opinion.

I do see the early 2010s as pretty dated but I can also see why someone may not think it is dated. I always see the very early 2010s and late '00s as the beginnings of what we have now and what we consider normal today. Everything we consider normal and use now was considered fresh, new, and exciting in the early 2010s and late '00s. When the whole smartphone app ecosystem came out and "there's an app for that" and how it looked exciting and new. Today it is just a normal part of life.


While it is technically true that the iPhone didn't exist for at least half of the year, at the same time the announcement of the iPhone back in January of 2007 was a watershed moment in technology. Not to mention other major breakthroughs in 2007 pop culturally.


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It was a pretty dope year looking back! It is certainly pretty dated from a 2019 perspective, especially in many ways since the year was still pretty 'core' 2000s. However, the year itself when it was going on and even looking back in retrospect had this neo/futuristic aspect to it. 'iPhone', 'Wii', 'Xbox Live', 'Halo 3', 'Super Mario Galaxy' '1080p', 'WiFi' 'social media', 'Blackberry', 'YouTube', etc. etc.

The year itself was quite revolutionary, the epitome of the innovation and transformative change that defined the 2000s.

In general, no.  :D

Oh yes, definitely. Particularly exploring glimpses of the internet of the early 2010s is like discovering an ancient civilisation. The blogosphere collapse around 2012/13 was pretty rough :(.

Early 2010s internet feels like yesterday to me. There are a few difference though like in the early 2010s the internet was still very web focused so we had a lot more redesigns and facelifts on websites like Facebook and YouTube quite often. Now that it is mainly app-based, you don't have any UI updates usually and mostly it's just updates in functionality. YouTube has pretty much looked the same since 2013 design-wise. Probably because they don't want to do any facelifts anymore as they think they are not needed and people moved on past that and focus on functionality now. Not to mention there is no competition out there for them. That makes me kind of sad though. I think design still has its place online and I miss the creativity of design on the internet before. There should be more focus on design and I think aesthetics are important and there should be more competition and it is more pleasant using a website with a good UI. I have no idea why people got annoyed over that in the early 2010s with the frequent changes in design UI and facelifts, I liked the changes when they happened. I remember I did complain about YouTube in 2011 and didn't really like the design and thought YouTube of the late 2000s was so much better than in 2011 at that time. But at least it was still better in 2011 than today.

Oh yes, definitely. Particularly exploring glimpses of the internet of the early 2010s is like discovering an ancient civilisation. The blogosphere collapse around 2012/13 was pretty rough :(.


Uh, blogosphere collapse? Last I checked, people do still read Wordpress blogs.

Oh yes, definitely. Particularly exploring glimpses of the internet of the early 2010s is like discovering an ancient civilisation. The blogosphere collapse around 2012/13 was pretty rough :(.

What about Tumblr though? It was still very popular waaaay after 2013.

I remember Tumblr was so big in the early 2010s.

The blog didn’t disappear in 2013 since Tumblr was freaking huge in the early-mid 2010s.

Even though they are not early 2010s I really miss 2014 and 2015, it was such a good time for pop culture. It is not dated but I do miss it. I guess 2014 is arguably dated already and 2015 soon to be there. Anyone who says 2016 is dated though has lost their mind.  ;D Wait a couple more years. It still feels like the same era as today even. Feels like yesterday. But something about 2014 and 2015 feels disconnected from today.

Even though they are not early 2010s I really miss 2014 and 2015, it was such a good time for pop culture. It is not dated but I do miss it. I guess 2014 is arguably dated already and 2015 soon to be there. Anyone who says 2016 is dated though has lost their mind.  ;D Wait a couple more years. It still feels like the same era as today even. Feels like yesterday. But something about 2014 and 2015 feels disconnected from today.


I thought you hated 2014 & 15

I thought you hated 2014 & 15

I have always liked 2013 - 2015.... My favourite part of pop culture this decade. Very good years. 2014 and 2015 has always been good, one of the three best years of the decade... I just hate the 2010s as a decade on the whole.  Is that why you thought that? I hate the 2010s but 2013 - 2015 are not the only years of the 2010s. The decade on the whole was mostly garbage.

yes they do, just watch some photos from that era

I have always liked 2013 - 2015.... My favourite part of pop culture this decade. Very good years. 2014 and 2015 has always been good, one of the three best years of the decade... I just hate the 2010s as a decade on the whole.  Is that why you thought that? I hate the 2010s but 2013 - 2015 are not the only years of the 2010s. The decade on the whole was mostly garbage.


I think people will look more fondly towards 2013-2015 than any other years of the 2010s.

I think people will look more fondly towards 2013-2015 than any other years of the 2010s.


I absolutely HATE the mid-2010s, eww. The early 2010s are awesome though.

I think people will look more fondly towards 2013-2015 than any other years of the 2010s.

I agree. I know I will for sure. Nowhere near as good as the 2000s but still a kick ass time for pop culture.

Yeah they were quite dated  to me

I wouldn’t go as far to say dated just yet. Maybe it’s because I was a teenager in 2010 so it doesn’t feel like that long ago, but honestly somethings are dated and some things seem pretty recent. For 1, social media has changed drastically since then, smartphones are more commonly used which makes things more accessible and music/culture has changed. But other than that it seems more recent.

I was in elementary school in the early 2000’s and by 2008 or so 2001 seemed pretty dated compared to 2011 and 2018.

I wouldn’t go as far to say dated just yet. Maybe it’s because I was a teenager in 2010 so it doesn’t feel like that long ago, but honestly somethings are dated and some things seem pretty recent. For 1, social media has changed drastically since then, smartphones are more commonly used which makes things more accessible and music/culture has changed. But other than that it seems more recent.

I was in elementary school in the early 2000’s and by 2008 or so 2001 seemed pretty dated compared to 2011 and 2018.


Maybe because I was 8 then but I find 2010 dated to be completely honest. Electopop, 7th gen gaming (3DS didn't exist), Call of Duty in it's peak, smartphone adoption rate was still below 50%, etc.

I wouldn’t go as far to say dated just yet. Maybe it’s because I was a teenager in 2010 so it doesn’t feel like that long ago, but honestly somethings are dated and some things seem pretty recent. For 1, social media has changed drastically since then, smartphones are more commonly used which makes things more accessible and music/culture has changed. But other than that it seems more recent.

I was in elementary school in the early 2000’s and by 2008 or so 2001 seemed pretty dated compared to 2011 and 2018.

Those are my sentiments too. At my age I simply have different levels for "dated". 2010 is not the same as 2005, but it's not the same as 2014 either, which is not the same as 2019, etc.

Yes, indeed they do most of the mid 2010s feel that way to me also particularly 2014-15.

Maybe because I was 8 then but I find 2010 dated to be completely honest. Electopop, 7th gen gaming (3DS didn't exist), Call of Duty in it's peak, smartphone adoption rate was still below 50%, etc.

3DS came out a year later not really a huge note, since the 3DS is mostly dead in 2019

Yes, indeed they do most of the mid 2010s feel that way to me also particularly 2014-15.


Honestly 2014-15 seems very recent and new school. Obama was president but to me 2014 is still recent.

Honestly 2014-15 seems very recent and new school. Obama was president but to me 2014 is still recent.

You’re right it was but music it seems miles different than now. In a decade or so I’ll look at it as really dated

Maybe because I was 8 then but I find 2010 dated to be completely honest. Electopop, 7th gen gaming (3DS didn't exist), Call of Duty in it's peak, smartphone adoption rate was still below 50%, etc.

2010 is pretty dated lol

Those are my sentiments too. At my age I simply have different levels for "dated". 2010 is not the same as 2005, but it's not the same as 2014 either, which is not the same as 2019, etc.


Yeah maybe it’s just me but it doesn’t seem all that dated. We used digital cameras rather than iPhones and smartphones for good quality photos back then but technology has been pretty stagnant since then. I feel like I could easily go back to 2010 and live life the way i live it today without much difference. When I think dated I think early mid 2000’s. Late 2000’s and early 2010’s just seem too recent for me

2010 is pretty dated lol


I don’t know when you were born but if you were born in the millennium I can understand why you feel like that, but if you were a teenager it probably seems a bit different? Idk you maybe older than me too. But it just doesn’t seem old yet if you get what I mean.

Maybe because I was 8 then but I find 2010 dated to be completely honest. Electopop, 7th gen gaming (3DS didn't exist), Call of Duty in it's peak, smartphone adoption rate was still below 50%, etc.


I think for me it’s knowing the access to technology we had in 2010. I still consider the Wii modern tbh. Electro pop isn’t really dated to me. Most people still used broadband internet rather than wifi in 2010 as well which does still seem somewhat dated but most of what we have today started in the late 2000’s and early 2010’s so I consider it all apart if one era a bit.

I think for me it’s knowing the access to technology we had in 2010. I still consider the Wii modern tbh. Electro pop isn’t really dated to me. Most people still used broadband internet rather than wifi in 2010 as well which does still seem somewhat dated but most of what we have today started in the late 2000’s and early 2010’s so I consider it all apart if one era a bit.


I don't think the Wii is "modern". It may have had motion controls but everything else seems very dated. It couldn't even go past 480p.

I don't think the Wii is "modern". It may have had motion controls but everything else seems very dated. It couldn't even go past 480p.


The fact that 480p isn’t even seen as modern is crazy to me lmao. I get it tho. We’re integrated into a very digital high def world now...I grew up more so with PS2, N64, Gameboy advance/ advance sp, Dreamcast, Gamecube and Xbox. Those consoles are starting to feel outdated and retro to me. The Wii doesn’t feel retro or old to me just yet, maybe in about 3-5 years but as of right now it still seems pretty recent. The Wii was a big part of my adolescence tho. In middle school and high school Just dance was such a fun family game.

I don’t know when you were born but if you were born in the millennium I can understand why you feel like that, but if you were a teenager it probably seems a bit different? Idk you maybe older than me too. But it just doesn’t seem old yet if you get what I mean.

I was born in 93. The whole vibe of 2010 is completely different from today. From fashion, to music, to the ideal beauty type, to politics, etc. This is gonna be long so bare with me...

2010 has too many elements of the 2000s to not seem dated although there was obviously a cultural shift going on.

Fashion was heavily centered around bright, neon, colors and tight fits. There was a lot of late 80s/early 90s inspiration in there. Some dudes in my school were rocking the Bobby Brown "My Prerogative" hair do. That wouldn't fly today. Then there were others who rocked mohawks w/ stars shaved on the sides. I am Black American so these are some of the styles I was seeing. So many girls were dying their hair red. Some still do today but not at the capacity seen in 2010.

Music was of course, centered around electropop, with little room for hip-hop and r&b. Most mainstream rap heavily incorporated pop and indie elements into the songs. Think B.o.B circa 2010. Back then we were complaining about how street rap barely got any mainstream shine. Many promoted rap artists were those who made "college rap" or something more on the hipster side (J.Cole, Wale, Mac Miller, Odd Future, etc). Not a lot of street rappers getting their due shine. It's a different story today.

Also, the themes in music were very different. It was almost always centered around having fun or corny disney like uplifting themes. Think "Firework" by Katy Perry and 2010s Black Eyed Peas Music. Again, a different story today.

The ideal beauty back then was shifting from Paris Hilton types to a curver alternative but it was still different from today. Today, Instagram has taken the beauty standard captive and although in 2010 women were fine with curves, today it is just ridiculous. Many people today want to look mixed & exotic. You see it in the Ariana Grande & Instagram influencers who try their best to look ethnic. I can't say in 2010 that young girls necessarily wanted to look ethnic, they still wanted to look very white but maybe a bit curvier.

Politics, well you know. In 2010 we didn't have the extreme political views of the far right and far left overbearing all of our political outlets. At most, you had to deal with the Tea Party, who btw have NOTHING on the far right or left today. And of course, the political movements back then weren't as visible as they are today.

Technology today isn't extremely different but I do feel it's based more on convience than ever before. In 2010 we had some smartphones but many people still had separate devices for different things. An ipod/mp3 player for music, a computer for surfing the internet easier and using Microsoft programs, a phone for texting/calling and a camera for taking pictures. Today, you don't need separate devices. I could go on...

Finally, social media today undoubtedly dictates popular culture. It wasn't like that in 2010. Underground subcultures didn't have that type of influence. Forums were still popular and needed to find the latest music and celebrity gossip. Streaming wasn't the force it is today and many still had to use mediafire or iTunes to download mp3s. The Itune charts mean nothing today.

I could go on but I basically already wrote a whole dissertation.

I was born in 93. The whole vibe of 2010 is completely different from today. From fashion, to music, to the ideal beauty type, to politics, etc. This is gonna be long so bare with me...

2010 has too many elements of the 2000s to not seem dated although there was obviously a cultural shift going on.

Fashion was heavily centered around bright, neon, colors and tight fits. There was a lot of late 80s/early 90s inspiration in there. Some dudes in my school were rocking the Bobby Brown "My Prerogative" hair do. That wouldn't fly today. Then there were others who rocked mohawks w/ stars shaved on the sides. I am Black American so these are some of the styles I was seeing. So many girls were dying their hair red. Some still do today but not at the capacity seen in 2010.

Music was of course, centered around electropop, with little room for hip-hop and r&b. Most mainstream rap heavily incorporated pop and indie elements into the songs. Think B.o.B circa 2010. Back then we were complaining about how street rap barely got any mainstream shine. Many promoted rap artists were those who made "college rap" or something more on the hipster side (J.Cole, Wale, Mac Miller, Odd Future, etc). Not a lot of street rappers getting their due shine. It's a different story today.

Also, the themes in music were very different. It was almost always centered around having fun or corny disney like uplifting themes. Think "Firework" by Katy Perry and 2010s Black Eyed Peas Music. Again, a different story today.

The ideal beauty back then was shifting from Paris Hilton types to a curver alternative but it was still different from today. Today, Instagram has taken the beauty standard captive and although in 2010 women were fine with curves, today it is just ridiculous. Many people today want to look mixed & exotic. You see it in the Ariana Grande & Instagram influencers who try their best to look ethnic. I can't say in 2010 that young girls necessarily wanted to look ethnic, they still wanted to look very white but maybe a bit curvier.

Politics, well you know. In 2010 we didn't have the extreme political views of the far right and far left overbearing all of our political outlets. At most, you had to deal with the Tea Party, who btw have NOTHING on the far right or left today. And of course, the political movements back then weren't as visible as they are today.

Technology today isn't extremely different but I do feel it's based more on convience than ever before. In 2010 we had some smartphones but many people still had separate devices for different things. An ipod/mp3 player for music, a computer for surfing the internet easier and using Microsoft programs, a phone for texting/calling and a camera for taking pictures. Today, you don't need separate devices. I could go on...

Finally, social media today undoubtedly dictates popular culture. It wasn't like that in 2010. Underground subcultures didn't have that type of influence. Forums were still popular and needed to find the latest music and celebrity gossip. Streaming wasn't the force it is today and many still had to use mediafire or iTunes to download mp3s. The Itune charts mean nothing today.

I could go on but I basically already wrote a whole dissertation.


Yeah you’re a few years older than me so I feel like we experiences most of the decade the same however you were approaching adulthood so you may have a better look on things where as I was in my early teens by 2010. You made some really good points. I think for me the late 2000’s don’t seem all that dated either mainly because in my head I time stamp everything as far as technology to one time period. Like when I think of late 2000’s I think of the time that started all of the modern technology we have now. Culturally a lot had changed since then but technologically speaking I can use an iphone 4 and do what I’m doing with my life now despite it being an outdated phone.

Fashion was really centered around New Boys and You’re a jerk in the late 2000’s and early 2010’s with colorful skinny jeans and vans. Today we are still wearing skinny jeans similar to how in the 80’s tapered levi’s (mom jeans) were a thing way into the 90’s dying off around 2001/2002. I hope we get new fashion next decade.

Beauty has definitely changed for most of the 90’s and 2000’s thin eyebrows were the trend which didn’t start phasing out until the whole instagram glam look of this decade.

In 2010 blogs and magazines were popular and now magazines are probably considered obsolete because no one really reads them anymore. For me anything past 2007 just seems so much more digital than before and idk why :/. We didn’t depend on digital technology as we much as we did in the 2010’s.

The themes in music and pop culture are a bit different now but they don’t sound outdated. I can listen to something from 2010 or 2011 and it sounds like it belongs in the era we live in now, however listening to something from the late, mid and early 2000’s sounds extremely dated as of now.