The more I think about it, 2013 was a weird and unique year. No matter if you think 2013 is early 10s or mid 10s, but the thing is 2013 doesn't strongly connect to both eras (2010-2012 and 2014-2016). This year has such a distinct vibe to it. It's like if both eras are swirled together to make a special and exciting culture. Does anyone feel that way?

The more I think about it, 2013 was a weird and unique year. No matter if you think 2013 is early 10s or mid 10s, but the thing is 2013 doesn't strongly connect to both eras (2010-2012 and 2014-2016). This year has such a distinct vibe to it. It's like if both eras are swirled together to make a special and exciting culture. Does anyone feel that way?


I feel it too. I'd say 2013 was like a mixture of the Early and Mid 2010s, it's a very fun and transitional period.

I feel it too. I'd say 2013 was like a mixture of the Early and Mid 2010s, it's a very fun and transitional period.


2014 felt like a downgrade from an unpredictable and awesome year like 2013.

The more I think about it, 2013 was a weird and unique year. No matter if you think 2013 is early 10s or mid 10s, but the thing is 2013 doesn't strongly connect to both eras (2010-2012 and 2014-2016). This year has such a distinct vibe to it. It's like if both eras are swirled together to make a special and exciting culture. Does anyone feel that way?


Definitely. 2013 was half early 10s and half mid 10s while still being thought of as an early 10s year by most people.

Definitely. 2013 was half early 10s and half mid 10s while still being thought of as an early 10s year by most people.


It's understandable because there are a lot of early 10s trends that lingered on throughout 2013 but there were also newer trends as well. 2014 is the first true mid 2010s year.

I half agree. It was most certainly an in-between year that felt different from both (2010 -2012) and (2014 - 2016) however I personally don't like this year very much as I don't feel it has a strong identity. The music and atmosphere was somewhere in between early 2010's and mid 2010's. kind of a mix and I feel it was not as strong a year pop culturally as either the early or mid 2010's so as a result i'm not very nostalgic about it. Its probably my least favorite year of the 2010's actually, at least pop culturally,

2013 had all of the American pop culture foundations that Americans would be talking about in the next eras of the 2010s. Things like Netflix’s Strangers Things and Deadpool were not around yet in 2013. The way I see it, 2013 was a prologue to the mid 2010s.

2013 was awesome and you're right it had its own unique vibe.

2017 is another year that felt that way. It was different from the mid 10's as that time was over, but it also didn't seem to fit with 2018 and 2019 either, except for about the last 3 months of the year.

2017 is another year that felt that way. It was different from the mid 10's as that time was over, but it also didn't seem to fit with 2018 and 2019 either, except for about the last 3 months of the year.

I don't agree at all 2017 was like that.... 2017 was a 100% solid late 2010s year. Pretty  much identical to 2016 and 2018.

2016 was a transitional year similar to 2013, not 2017. 2017 was the same from start to finish.

I don't agree at all 2017 was like that.... 2017 was a 100% solid late 2010s year. Pretty  much identical to 2016 and 2018.

2016 was a transitional year similar to 2013, not 2017. 2017 was the same from start to finish.


I was going to reply in the other thread where you said 2016 and 2019 are the same, but anyhow 2016 and 2018 have nothing in common. Nobody heard of Cardi B in 2016. Post Malone and Migos may have dropped their debut albums in late 2016, but most haven't heard of them until 2017. There was trap and mumble rap in the mid 10's, but it was a different style such as Fetty Wap. Obama was still president in 2016, and the social justice issues that started in 2013/14 hit the climactic point in 2016, particularly the BLM movement. There may have been a small transition in very late 2016 after the elections and early 2017 as that was the transition of presidents, but the bigger transition to late 10's occurred in mid to late 2017. Most of 2016 was identical to 2015.

I was going to reply in the other thread where you said 2016 and 2019 are the same, but anyhow 2016 and 2018 have nothing in common. Nobody heard of Cardi B in 2016. Post Malone and Migos may have dropped their debut albums in late 2016, but most haven't heard of them until 2017. There was trap and mumble rap in the mid 10's, but it was a different style such as Fetty Wap. Obama was still president in 2016, and the social justice issues that started in 2013/14 hit the climactic point in 2016, particularly the BLM movement. There may have been a small transition in very late 2016 after the elections and early 2017 as that was the transition of presidents, but the bigger transition to late 10's occurred in mid to late 2017. Most of 2016 was identical to 2015.


I agree with you. I remember seeing a shift in pop culture in Late 2016, it's like we entered a room and locked out to a more simple vibe.

I was going to reply in the other thread where you said 2016 and 2019 are the same, but anyhow 2016 and 2018 have nothing in common. Nobody heard of Cardi B in 2016. Post Malone and Migos may have dropped their debut albums in late 2016, but most haven't heard of them until 2017. There was trap and mumble rap in the mid 10's, but it was a different style such as Fetty Wap. Obama was still president in 2016, and the social justice issues that started in 2013/14 hit the climactic point in 2016, particularly the BLM movement. There may have been a small transition in very late 2016 after the elections and early 2017 as that was the transition of presidents, but the bigger transition to late 10's occurred in mid to late 2017. Most of 2016 was identical to 2015.

I would say they were all very similar. We are talking about the 2010s here anyway, a decade of very little pop culture change on the whole. You can easily split this decade in half and still have trouble noticing a huge difference, let alone a year or two.

Btw, 2013 and 2001 are kind of similar having their own vibes. 2013 has it's own culture between the Part 2 of the Electropop era (Early 2010s), and Mid 2010s. Same with 2001, where it has it's own vibe in between the Y2K era and Early 2000s.

2013 was just an all around really unique year. I wish the entire decade was like it. The fact every second song you heard on the radio was some throwback disco vibe was sick. It was so laid back and not rushed like you had this awesome recovery from the recession and no huge violence and conflict yet it was really chill. That year was also the birth of the term "Selfie". I remember Miley Cyrus went psycho that year and couldn't stop sticking her tongue out lol. Best year of the 2010s for pop culture by far.

Btw, 2013 and 2001 are kind of similar having their own vibes. 2013 has it's own culture between the Part 2 of the Electropop era (Early 2010s), and Mid 2010s. Same with 2001, where it has it's own vibe in between the Y2K era and Early 2000s.


You could say the same for 1997 and 2017 as well. In 1997 the Y2K era vibe wasn't noticeable yet, except toward the very end, but it wasn't the mid 90's alternative, grunge, gansta rap era anymore either. In 2001, one single tragic event did change the culture and started the early 00s vibe.

You could say the same for 1997 and 2017 as well. In 1997 the Y2K era vibe wasn't noticeable yet, except toward the very end, but it wasn't the mid 90's alternative, grunge, gansta rap era anymore either. In 2001, one single tragic event did change the culture and started the early 00s vibe.


9/11 made almost no difference in pop culture though. The Early 2000s started in May 2001 according to John Titor and a few of my friends. It's just that happy feeling ended, but let's say 2001 was a highly transitional year.

Late 1996 to Mid 1998 is it's own era as well, but it still feels core 90s and Y2K at the same time, If you saw my 1997 Core 90s/Y2K hybrid topic.

I don't agree at all 2017 was like that.... 2017 was a 100% solid late 2010s year. Pretty  much identical to 2016 and 2018.

2016 was a transitional year similar to 2013, not 2017. 2017 was the same from start to finish.
I really didn't start to see any changes until really early 2017 like January when Trump was inaugurated as president. The entirety of 2016 still felt like the mid 2010s.

I really didn't start to see any changes until really early 2017 like January when Trump was inaugurated as president. The entirety of 2016 still felt like the mid 2010s.

2017 was a year with zero changes from start to finish. 2016 was a changeful year, 2017 wasn't. 2017 was firmly late 2010s. 2017 was identical to 2018.

Maybe because this is where my childhood ended (personally I don't consider myself a kid when I was 11 or 12) but I found 2013  a transitional year. While early 2013 leaned more to the early 2010s I found the rest of the year to be somewhat mid-2010s culture-wise. Electopop was declining throughout the summer and autumn, apps like Vine, Snapchat and Instagram exploded in popularity, and in April 2013 smartphone sales overtook feature phone sales.

I'd say 2013 culturally was mid-2010s.

Maybe because this is where my childhood ended (personally I don't consider myself a kid when I was 11 or 12) but I found 2013  a transitional year. While early 2013 leaned more to the early 2010s I found the rest of the year to be somewhat mid-2010s culture-wise. Electopop was declining throughout the summer and autumn, apps like Vine, Snapchat and Instagram exploded in popularity, and in April 2013 smartphone sales overtook feature phone sales.

I'd say 2013 culturally was mid-2010s.

No 2013 was culturally early 2010s on the whole for sure. But you are right it was transitional. Towards the end of the fall we were in mid 2010s culture.

No 2013 was culturally early 2010s on the whole for sure. But you are right it was transitional. Towards the end of the fall we were in mid 2010s culture.

I don't see how it was. It just felt so different from 2012......

I don't see how it was. It just felt so different from 2012......

It was unique. It wasn't early or mid 2010s. But for the majority of the year I would say it was more early 2010s as there were still some music that sounded more early 2010s. It was also very transitional.

It was unique. It wasn't early or mid 2010s. But for the majority of the year I would say it was more early 2010s as there were still some music that sounded more early 2010s. It was also very transitional.


Some, but by then it was clear we were heading into a new era of music. Electopop really wasn't doing well that year. By late 2013 it was virtually dead.

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Maybe because this is where my childhood ended (personally I don't consider myself a kid when I was 11 or 12) but I found 2013  a transitional year. While early 2013 leaned more to the early 2010s I found the rest of the year to be somewhat mid-2010s culture-wise. Electopop was declining throughout the summer and autumn, apps like Vine, Snapchat and Instagram exploded in popularity, and in April 2013 smartphone sales overtook feature phone sales.

I'd say 2013 culturally was mid-2010s.


I soo agree with this. January to April 2013 still felt Early 2010s, until around the middle of April is when the transition was strong. And then, by September 2013, it's already the mid 2010s. I felt like with the release of iOS 7 and Vine being popular started it. It's a fun year

I soo agree with this. January to April 2013 still felt Early 2010s, until around the middle of April is when the transition was strong. And then, by September 2013, it's already the mid 2010s. I felt like with the release of iOS 7 and Vine being popular started it. It's a fun year

For me it felt like neither early 2010s nor mid 2010s and very unique for most of the year. If I had to pick the era that 2013 felt more connected to, it would be early 2010s. But mid 2010s came in late fall of 2013 and at the very end of the year.

2017 was a year with zero changes from start to finish. 2016 was a changeful year, 2017 wasn't. 2017 was firmly late 2010s. 2017 was identical to 2018.


2016 only showed signs that change was coming, but overall it was similar to 2015. Even in the early part of 2017 things didn't just change overnight. It was a slow and gradual change that we didn't notice until the last few months of the year. The late part of 2017 is the same as 2018, and as is 2019. Only 2019 lacks any type of identity so it's hard to tell what it is and where it's going.

2016 only showed signs that change was coming, but overall it was similar to 2015. Even in the early part of 2017 things didn't just change overnight. It was a slow and gradual change that we didn't notice until the last few months of the year. The late part of 2017 is the same as 2018, and as is 2019. Only 2019 lacks any type of identity so it's hard to tell what it is and where it's going.

I disagree. 2017 wasn't changeful at all. 2016 was nothing like 2015 it had enormous changes that year. The only "change" in '17 was a fluke of having a couple really good songs charting on the radio in the first half of the year and then really bad ones with trap music the second half of the year but that isn't a change just a charting fluke and a time of some good hits because trap and all other stuff in music existed long before 2017. 2016 was not all that better in music than 2017 or different.

good analys, one of my favorite 2010s years without a question

good analys, one of my favorite 2010s years without a question

My favourite 2010s year pop-culture wise no doubt.

If you got tired of boring same electro pop in the early 2010s yet the mid 2010s and late 2010s culture isn't your cup of tea either, you would love 2013. It was its own thing and had its own unique culture.

I disagree. 2017 wasn't changeful at all. 2016 was nothing like 2015 it had enormous changes that year. The only "change" in '17 was a fluke of having a couple really good songs charting on the radio in the first half of the year and then really bad ones with trap music the second half of the year but that isn't a change just a charting fluke and a time of some good hits because trap and all other stuff in music existed long before 2017. 2016 was not all that better in music than 2017 or different.


To me, and a lot of other people, 2016 felt very similar to 2014-15, it's only September 2016, entering the new school year is when a shift happened.

To me, and a lot of other people, 2016 felt very similar to 2014-15, it's only September 2016, entering the new school year is when a shift happened.

How was 2016 similar in anyway to 2014? Just doesn't make sense to me at all. So many things in 2016 didn't exist in 2014... The big world violence and tension, populism, Brexit, Donald Trump being on the scene, even trap wasn't mainstream in early 2014... 2016 and 2014 are VERY different. Only two years apart but two completely distinct eras.

But you're not the only one here who insists 2016 was still a mid 2010s year. I see it a lot around here and I just don't understand how anyone can connect it to 2014 when 2016 has way more in common with today (even if there are still some differences between '16 and today of course, but nowhere near as much when you compare '14 and '16). 2016 still feels very connected to today like part of the same era in more ways than one. 2016 really feels like yesterday to me. But 2015? That's another story and I see that like a half modern, half "classic" 2010s year. In early 2015 Trump wasn't in the political spotlight at all... another huge thing that separates 2016 from early 2015 and 2014.

The 2010s were very much a split decade, a lot of people on this site disagree with that and I see people dragging the mid 2010s as some huge period from 2012 (some people say that) all the way up to 2018 (another extreme) not recognizing the mid 2010s only lasted 2 YEARS (2014 and 2015) a tiny short era and you can even argue the era doesn't exist and this decade is split into two, early and late.

How was 2016 similar in anyway to 2014? Just doesn't make sense to me at all. So many things in 2016 didn't exist in 2014... The big world violence and tension, populism, Brexit, Donald Trump being on the scene, even trap wasn't mainstream in early 2014... 2016 and 2014 are VERY different. Only two years apart but two completely distinct eras.

But you're not the only one here who insists 2016 was still a mid 2010s year. I see it a lot around here and I just don't understand how anyone can connect it to 2014 when 2016 has way more in common with today (even if there are still some differences between '16 and today of course, but nowhere near as much when you compare '14 and '16).


-Artists like Meghan Trainor, Iggy Azalea, Ellie Goulding were still popular
-Trump still wasnt elected
-90s-inspired fashion was identical
-Trap pop was still popular (Dark Horse and Don't let me down aren't the same song, but they're both pop Trap.
-GTA 5 was the biggest hyped game
-PS4 and Xbox One were still considered "New"
-Vine was still an active platform
-Vine stars like Lele Pons, Nash Grier, The Paul Brothers, etc. Were popular
-YouTubers like Pewdiepie, Jacksepticeye, and Markiplier were popular gamers
-First wave of Netflix Originals like Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, Orange is the new black, and House of cards are still popular
-The Nae Nae Dance was popular until 2017
-4 inch screens for smartphones were the standard from 2014 to 2016
-VanossGaming, SkydoesMinecraft, and DanTDM were also popular gamers on the other side of YouTube gaming
-EDM was about beat drops till early 2017.

Honestly, saying that 2014 and 2016 are completely different is a lot like saying 1999 and 2000 are completely different, its silly

-Artists like Meghan Trainor, Iggy Azalea, Ellie Goulding were still popular
-Trump still wasnt elected
-90s-inspired fashion was identical
-Trap pop was still popular (Dark Horse and Don't let me down aren't the same song, but they're both pop Trap.
-GTA 5 was the biggest hyped game
-PS4 and Xbox One were still considered "New"
-Vine was still an active platform
-Vine stars like Lele Pons, Nash Grier, The Paul Brothers, etc. Were popular
-YouTubers like Pewdiepie, Jacksepticeye, and Markiplier were popular gamers
-First wave of Netflix Originals like Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, Orange is the new black, and House of cards are still popular
-The Nae Nae Dance was popular until 2017
-4 inch screens for smartphones were the standard from 2014 to 2016
-VanossGaming, SkydoesMinecraft, and DanTDM were also popular gamers on the other side of YouTube gaming
-EDM was about beat drops till early 2017.

Honestly, saying that 2014 and 2016 are completely different is a lot like saying 1999 and 2000 are completely different, its silly

No it isn't. 2014 and 2016 were two years apart and 1999 and 2000 were one year apart, so your comparison doesn't make sense. And there were a bunch of changes I listed. So just because core 2010s trends stayed you think it's the same era? That's silly to me... Most people understand how different 2016 and 2014 were. Maybe you were just too young then to recognize it. 2016 was a brand new era not connected to 2014 not to mention it feels like yesterday.

Did you know Donald Trump was not in the political landscape at all in 2014? Populism and Brexit weren't issues? Trap was nowhere near dominating? So how can you say it's the same?

No it isn't. 2014 and 2016 were two years apart and 1999 and 2000 were one year apart, so your comparison doesn't make sense. And there were a bunch of changes I listed. So just because core 2010s trends stayed you think it's the same era? That's silly to me... Most people understand how different 2016 and 2014 were. Maybe you were just too young then to recognize it. 2016 was a brand new era not connected to 2014 not to mention it feels like yesterday.

Did you know Donald Trump was not in the political landscape at all in 2014? Populism and Brexit weren't issues? Trap was nowhere near dominating? So how can you say it's the same?


I'm not saying that 2014 and 2016 are identical, I'm just saying they're very similar in pop culture. Yes, every year has their differences, but just because of that, it doesnt mean that OHHH I REMEMBER IN 2016 THAT 2014 IS 100 YEARS OLD, YEAH VINE WAS THERE AND GTA 5 AND ALL BUT ITS EXTREMELY DIFFERENT ITS LIKE COMPARING THE ERA OF DINOSAURS TO TODAY, no, it's just that they share a lot of similarities, it's just that 2016 expands upon it of course, just like with 2015. 1999 isnt identical to 2000, just very similar. Ummm, mc98, can you explain the similarities between 2014 and 2016?

I'm not saying that 2014 and 2016 are identical, I'm just saying they're very similar in pop culture. Yes, every year has their differences, but just because of that, it doesnt mean that OHHH I REMEMBER IN 2016 THAT 2014 IS 100 YEARS OLD, YEAH VINE WAS THERE AND GTA 5 AND ALL BUT ITS EXTREMELY DIFFERENT ITS LIKE COMPARING THE ERA OF DINOSAURS TO TODAY, no, it's just that they share a lot of similarities, it's just that 2016 expands upon it of course, just like with 2015. 1999 isnt identical to 2000, just very similar. Ummm, mc98, can you explain the similarities between 2014 and 2016?

I agree with you there.... 2 years is never long enough for something to be completely different. My point was the differences were way bigger than the differences between now and 2016.

Slim...I feel like you're too dogmatic and aggressive about this.  ;D

Heck, when I think of Mid 2010s cartoons, I think of Steven Universe and Rick & Morty, and they were very popular in 2014-16. Aside from cartoons, Game of Thrones was at its Apex from 2013-2017, and Orange Is the new black was at its Apex from 2014-2016. 2014 and 2016 are similar. Honestly, I'm not the best person to answer how 2014 and 2016 are similar, ask mc98.

No it isn't. 2014 and 2016 were two years apart and 1999 and 2000 were one year apart, so your comparison doesn't make sense. And there were a bunch of changes I listed. So just because core 2010s trends stayed you think it's the same era? That's silly to me... Most people understand how different 2016 and 2014 were. Maybe you were just too young then to recognize it. 2016 was a brand new era not connected to 2014 not to mention it feels like yesterday.

Did you know Donald Trump was not in the political landscape at all in 2014? Populism and Brexit weren't issues? Trap was nowhere near dominating? So how can you say it's the same?


Ok, it would be like saying 1998 and 2000 were completely different. Both were part of the Y2K era, and 2014 and 2016 were part of the mid 10's era. By the end of 2017, 2016 already seemed distant like it was part of a past era. Songs like Despacito, Mi Gente, and Dua Lipa's "New Rules"  didn't sound like anything that came out in 2016. In 2016 the island sound and tropical house was still popular.

Ok, it would be like saying 1998 and 2000 were completely different. Both were part of the Y2K era, and 2014 and 2016 were part of the mid 10's era. By the end of 2017, 2016 already seemed distant like it was part of a past era. Songs like Despacito, Mi Gente, and Dua Lipa's "New Rules"  didn't sound like anything that came out in 2016. In 2016 the island sound and tropical house was still popular.


Exactly, ever since September 2016, and songs started to go a little darker, it felt as if were in a new era. Second wave mumble rap, second wave netflix shows (Stranger Things, 13 reasons why, etc.), decline of vine, etc. EDM was less tropical and more minimalist. I guess late 2016 is the only time you can say that "Yeah, 2014 and 2016 are different," but I even remember in 2017 still having 2015 elements.

Ok, it would be like saying 1998 and 2000 were completely different. Both were part of the Y2K era, and 2014 and 2016 were part of the mid 10's era. By the end of 2017, 2016 already seemed distant like it was part of a past era. Songs like Despacito, Mi Gente, and Dua Lipa's "New Rules"  didn't sound like anything that came out in 2016. In 2016 the island sound and tropical house was still popular.

No they weren't. 1998 was not part of the Y2K era.

Exactly, ever since September 2016, and songs started to go a little darker, it felt as if were in a new era. Second wave mumble rap, second wave netflix shows (Stranger Things, 13 reasons why, etc.), decline of vine, etc. EDM was less tropical and more minimalist. I guess late 2016 is the only time you can say that "Yeah, 2014 and 2016 are different," but I even remember in 2017 still having 2015 elements.

Whatever, agree to disagree.

No they weren't. 1998 was not part of the Y2K era.


Yeah it was, and even late 1997 was. Much like how late 2013 is in the same era as 2016.

For me it felt like neither early 2010s nor mid 2010s and very unique for most of the year. If I had to pick the era that 2013 felt more connected to, it would be early 2010s. But mid 2010s came in late fall of 2013 and at the very end of the year.


I agree I was a Junior in 2013 and you were in college so our distinction of culture were pretty much similar. 2013 to me was early 2010’s from start to finish in my eyes. Ariana Grande, Miley Cyrus, Macklemore, Drake, Katy Perry, etc all still had a very late 2000’s undertone to their music and it didn’t feel like the mid 2010’s yet.

When Iggy Azalea came on the scene that’s when I feel culture was shifting. Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, Nicki Minaj, Tinashe, Chris Brown, Ed Sheeran, etc were the ones who started changing the sound from early 2010’s to mid 2010’s culture imo. My senior year of high school 2014-2015 felt mid 2010’s where as my junior year 2013-2014 felt really transitional as far as culture goes.

Btw, 2013 and 2001 are kind of similar having their own vibes. 2013 has it's own culture between the Part 2 of the Electropop era (Early 2010s), and Mid 2010s. Same with 2001, where it has it's own vibe in between the Y2K era and Early 2000s.
The difference was that teen pop fizzled out quicker in 2001 than dance music in 2013. I'd say that in late 2013-early 2014, early '10s dance music was in an eternal June-August 2001 where it couldn't seem to go away despite being clearly past-its-peak.

2014 felt like a downgrade from an unpredictable and awesome year like 2013.
At least my personal life was.

At least my personal life was.


For my personal life I really didn't care for the later half of 2013 and the first half of 2014. Worst part of the decade. I wouldn't mind if it got erased from my memory.