The last two decades have felt weirdly similar compared to 20th century decade standards haven't they?, and dare I say it similar even well maybe not, it is just that it feels that decades no longer belong to distinct periods in time called "eras", when the 2000's and 2010's bleed into one another, but look that this is not to say they aren't different though, I want you to get a idea of what I mean so you can judge

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gta-vice-city-was-released-in-2002-and-set-in-1986-it-is-now-2018.13676/

https://www.reddit.com/r/GTA/comments/835mrd/vice_city_was_released_16_years_ago_16_years/

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/in-2018-it-will-have-been-16-years-since-vice-city-which-was-set-in-1986.1331461/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEJyPSId2MU

The last two decades have felt weirdly similar compared to 20th century decade standards haven't they?, and dare I say it similar even well maybe not, it is just that it feels that decades no longer belong to distinct periods in time called "eras", when the 2000's and 2010's bleed into one another, but look that this is not to say they aren't different though, I want you to get a idea of what I mean so you can judge

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gta-vice-city-was-released-in-2002-and-set-in-1986-it-is-now-2018.13676/

https://www.reddit.com/r/GTA/comments/835mrd/vice_city_was_released_16_years_ago_16_years/

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/in-2018-it-will-have-been-16-years-since-vice-city-which-was-set-in-1986.1331461/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEJyPSId2MU

so basically a continution of the 90s then? because in the 2000s they said the same thing "the 00s is just an extension of the 90s...."

I am a member on ResetERA/NeoGAF and I would not go on there for opinions on the latest trends. They are mostly middle aged male gamers and wear cargo shorts lmao.

Why is it a continuation?

So are you basically saying that we are still in the 2000s ?

When will the 2010s begin, in your world view? ???

I am a member on ResetERA/NeoGAF and I would not go on there for opinions on the latest trends. They are mostly middle aged male gamers and wear cargo shorts lmao.

It shows. 2002 doesn’t feel like a long time ago to them because they were already grown ass adults. I was 7, and 2002 feels a really long time ago to me. If someone said ‘can you believe 2002 is 17 years ago?’, I’d think ‘yes, because 17 years is 2/3 of my entire life’. Even 2007 is half a lifetime ago from my perspective.

I’m not getting into this discussion again though.

The last two decades have felt weirdly similar compared to 20th century decade standards haven't they?, and dare I say it similar even well maybe not, it is just that it feels that decades no longer belong to distinct periods in time called "eras", when the 2000's and 2010's bleed into one another, but look that this is not to say they aren't different though, I want you to get a idea of what I mean so you can judge

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gta-vice-city-was-released-in-2002-and-set-in-1986-it-is-now-2018.13676/

https://www.reddit.com/r/GTA/comments/835mrd/vice_city_was_released_16_years_ago_16_years/

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/in-2018-it-will-have-been-16-years-since-vice-city-which-was-set-in-1986.1331461/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEJyPSId2MU

I argue otherwise. There's a greater acceptance of lesbian, gay and bisexual individuals (and to a lesser extent, transgender individuals) this decade; paradoxically, the fashion appears more gender conforming (namely because of the short back and sides hairstyle being popular on guys). I can name only three countries off the top of my head back in the 2000s (there may have been more) that recognized same-sex marriage - the Netherlands, Canada and Spain. In the 2010s, about half the world began to recognize same-sex marriages.


Also, unlike the 2000s, the far right are now a force that have been treated with more credibility in the 2010s.


The music also sounds blander as well, and I'm not talking about lyrics and autotune - there's a whole hipster sound to the music that makes them sound bland in an effort to make them sound unique, artisan, grown-up and not like manufactured corporate crap; in contrast, the 2000s seemed dominated by pop punk outside of mainstream pop music, and I guess the hipster backlash this decade manifested itself from 2000s music trends. I'd argue that pop punk music does sound a little babyish and whiny, but that's how I like it.


For technology, people are moving away from owning content and are paying to access content that may only be available on streaming services for like six months. In the 2000s, DVDs, CDs and digital downloads were the most common way of listening to music.


So I disagree that the 2010s was a continuation of the 2000s. The 2010s has its own unique vibe, as did the 2000s.

The 2000s and 2010s are as similar to each other as the 1980s and 1990s. Both sets of decades sort of coincide with each other in a more 'macro' historical sense of the word. The 80s & 90s are tied to the massive rise in right wing politics with the Reagan revolution (not to mention the presidencies of HW Bush and Clinton whom were also fairly right wing), the rise in PCs/Internet, Video Rental stores, the decline & eventual dissolution of the Soviet Union, and the War on Drugs, among other trends. The 00s & 10s have been defined by terrorism, a turbulent economy, environmental awareness, LGBTQ rights, the neoconservative push in politics, etc. etc. The decades listed are distinct on their own terms, but they definitely go along in a larger era.

In a Western viewpoint, the decades (or more specifically, the years listed) typically go like this:

1945-1963: The Post War Period (the late 40s, 50s, & early 60s)

1964-1980: The Cultural Revolution (the 60s & 70s)

1981-2001: The Reagan/Thatcher Revolution (the 80s & 90s)

2001-present: Post 9/11 (the 00s & 10s)

People still group the 00s with the 10s lol. I thought this died out after 2015.

The 2000s and the 2010s are both different.

The 2000s had:

1. 3G dumbphones
2. DVDs
3. EDTVs/HDTVs
4. 6th gen/early 7th gen gaming consoles
5. iPods/mp3 players
6. MySpace
7. Emo/Pop punk/Nu-metal
8. Crunk/Snap rap
9. Crocs
10. Razor scooters

The 2010s had:

1. 4G smartphones
2. Smartwatches
3. Virtual Reality
4. Blu-Rays
5. 3DTVs/4KTVs
6. Late 7th gen/8th gen gaming consoles
7. Instagram/Snapchat
8. Dubstep/EDM
9. Future/Tropical house
10. Disco/Dancehall/Latin pop revival fads
11. Movie/music streaming
12. Hoverboards

The 2000s were pretty different from the 10s esspecially 2000-2004!But I do agree in some aspects it does feel like a continuation.But in reallity no decade is the same just like in the 2020s even if some 2010s things do carry over the 2020s will be very different from this decade!

The last two decades have felt weirdly similar compared to 20th century decade standards haven't they?, and dare I say it similar even well maybe not, it is just that it feels that decades no longer belong to distinct periods in time called "eras", when the 2000's and 2010's bleed into one another, but look that this is not to say they aren't different though, I want you to get a idea of what I mean so you can judge

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gta-vice-city-was-released-in-2002-and-set-in-1986-it-is-now-2018.13676/

https://www.reddit.com/r/GTA/comments/835mrd/vice_city_was_released_16_years_ago_16_years/

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/in-2018-it-will-have-been-16-years-since-vice-city-which-was-set-in-1986.1331461/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEJyPSId2MU


I literally just made a thread about this same topic, pop culture has moved much slower during the past 20 years than any comparable 20 year period in the 20th century.

People still group the 00s with the 10s lol. I thought this died out after 2015.


As salty, bitter, or triggered we may be about it, forever people are always going to group the 80's and 90's together while people are always going to group the 00's and 10's together. Emman said it best, how the pop culture has moved slowly the past 20 years compared to the fast moving pop culture throughout the 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's. Because of the cultural identities those eras had before internet access and the WWW came into our culture and changed everything. I do agree that 2000-2004 doesn't deserve to be grouped with the modern era, especially 2000-2002 for sure which feel more related to the 90's overall.

As salty, bitter, or triggered we may be about it, forever people are always going to group the 80's and 90's together while people are always going to group the 00's and 10's together. Emman said it best, how the pop culture has moved slowly the past 20 years compared to the fast moving pop culture throughout the 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's. Because of the cultural identities those eras had before internet access and the WWW came into our culture and changed everything. I do agree that 2000-2004 doesn't deserve to be grouped with the modern era, especially 2000-2002 for sure which feel more related to the 90's overall.

I don't group the 80s and 90s together. Both decades had very different vibes. The 80s seemed far more socially conservative especially with Thatcher, Reagan and HIV/AIDS being major issues then. The 90s seemed more socially liberal - the media I think then seemed to depict more non-white people; I guess this is in part due to hip hop having developed then.


The 80s had a huge sci-fi aesthetic (with geometric shapes being a common theme for designs then); the 90s abandoned such conventions for design. Rock still had some popularity in the 80s, but hip-hop seemed to take its place in the 90s.


The 2000s had an emo aesthetic from around 2005-2006, while the 2010s had a hipster aesthetic from around 2013.

The 2000s and the 2010s are both different.

The 2000s had:

1. 3G dumbphones
2. DVDs
3. EDTVs/HDTVs
4. 6th gen/early 7th gen gaming consoles
5. iPods/mp3 players
6. MySpace
7. Emo/Pop punk/Nu-metal
8. Crunk/Snap rap
9. Crocs
10. Razor scooters

The 2010s had:

1. 4G smartphones
2. Smartwatches
3. Virtual Reality
4. Blu-Rays
5. 3DTVs/4KTVs
6. Late 7th gen/8th gen gaming consoles
7. Instagram/Snapchat
8. Dubstep/EDM
9. Future/Tropical house
10. Disco/Dancehall/Latin pop revival fads
11. Movie/music streaming
12. Hoverboards

I agree, but I want to make a roast post:


The 2000s had:
1. Androgynous fashion - emo was made fun of for blurring gender lines.
2. Actually emotional sounding music, even if its listeners spoke no word of English.
3. Technology that better respected your privacy (because they didn't have as much online capabilities then) and that allowed you to keep the stuff you paid for (I will concede that DRM was used in iTunes for music until 2007).
4. Music and an overall aesthetic that would make religious fundamentalists angry.


The 2010s had:
1. Far more gender-conforming fashion - guys started wearing their hair short again. This is despite increasing numbers of people saying that gender is a spectrum and not a binary.
2. Bland sounding music that tries to sound grown up and unique, as a backlash against 2000s music.
3. Technology that is more invasive (because they're all online now), and with the popularity of streaming, content lasts less than a year even if you pay for it.
4. An overall aesthetic that appears more inoffensive to religious fundamentalists (if they don't know English and don't watch music videos).

Absolutely zero valid arguments by the O.P. made besides a shock-value title bordering on attention mongering (actually going from Everything! in the title to "uhm yeah there differences" in the thread itself is literally just clickbait).
High class thread seriously.
At least make points or you know arguments to back up your claim instead of those vague assumptions and linking to threads where people are endlessly rambling in it about "feeling old" or "feeling distant".

In 2034 people gonna use Anne-Marie's "2002" instead to illustrate how 2018 would be as distant as the year 2002 was back then, so points made?

Also, Kid of the 2000s, it's maybe time to change your username if you're whole board shtick would be bashing the 00s-10s. Be "Kid of the 2000s irronically" instead or something.

Absolutely zero valid arguments by the O.P. made besides a shock-value title bordering on attention mongering (actually going from Everything! in the title to "uhm yeah there differences" in the thread itself is literally just clickbait).
High class thread seriously.
At least make points or you know arguments to back up your claim instead of those vague assumptions and linking to threads where people are endlessly rambling in it about "feeling old" or "feeling distant".

In 2034 people gonna use Anne-Marie's "2002" instead to illustrate how 2018 would be as distant as the year 2002 was back then, so points made?

Also, Kid of the 2000s, it's maybe time to change your username if you're whole board shtick would be bashing the 00s-10s. Be "Kid of the 2000s irronically" instead or something.


Is Kid who I think it is?  ;D

I just heard the Ketchup Song on the radio. The early 2000s nostalgia is going to be real :o (although it's been around underground since 2015 or so)

Absolutely zero valid arguments by the O.P. made besides a shock-value title bordering on attention mongering (actually going from Everything! in the title to "uhm yeah there differences" in the thread itself is literally just clickbait).
High class thread seriously.
At least make points or you know arguments to back up your claim instead of those vague assumptions and linking to threads where people are endlessly rambling in it about "feeling old" or "feeling distant".

In 2034 people gonna use Anne-Marie's "2002" instead to illustrate how 2018 would be as distant as the year 2002 was back then, so points made?

Also, Kid of the 2000s, it's maybe time to change your username if you're whole board shtick would be bashing the 00s-10s. Be "Kid of the 2000s irronically" instead or something.


I agree.

Btw, there is definitive proof that this guys knows that the 2010s are distinct from the 2000s;


The mid 2010's were a big pile of suck too much teeny bopper crap how could any hetrosexual male possibly enjoy that? and I know it's been said too ad nauseum but everything is just far too homogenized in this decade I like Freya Ridings though but she's not a mid 10's artist chronologically speaking, (although stylistically I guess so since the raw striped back production is kinda timeless at least to this decade)  I like Halsey unique voice and she did find success in the mid 10's, it's just that vocally she isn't especially gifted and her vocal style and the backing tracks are so formulaic and souond like everything else she has little of her own identity artistically beyond just  forced formulaic  melodrama and lack of the lyrical authenticity like everyone else, you see people model themselves as being edgy nowadays but they make sure to conform their own style (musically artistically/fashion way of talking) with all the other edgyies thereby making you the opposite of edgyness and making you a lame, I don't mind female acts as a hetrosexual  male if you have good taste check out this she's much more mature and real sounding than alot whether that be in the early mid or late 10's  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDPpex1wvOc


"Far too homogenized".

That surely is distinct from the many subcultures of the 2000s right? And FWIW, while I generally do think that Kid of the 2000s is a troll, at the same time I do kind of agree with his disdain for the mid & late 2010s culturally. However, I just find it ironic how this same guy whom clearly isn't a big fan of the 2010s would then say in this thread that the 2010s is more or less the same as the 1990s & 2000s ;D.

The 2000s and the 2010s are very distinct to me, the current vibe couldn't be more different than what it was at any point in the 2000s decade. I'd go as far to say that the change between the 2000s and the 2010s is just as much as the 1980s vs the 1990s

I just heard the Ketchup Song on the radio. The early 2000s nostalgia is going to be real :o (although it's been around underground since 2015 or so)


That song is ridiculous and cheesy and I love it. People say music became darker after 9/11 but you still had silly playful songs like that on the charts in Europe. It never became big in the US though.

And yes, 00s nostalgia is gaining traction. This concert tour is going around the UK at the moment: https://motorpointarenacardiff.co.uk/whats-on/stepback-90s-vs-00s

Is Kid who I think it is?  ;D


Probably.  :o

I strongly disagree. I think the 2010s has a very different style from the 2000s.

Is nu metal still dominating the charts? Are men still wearing cargo shorts galore and frost tips? Is the "whale tail" still considered fashionable for women? Is the radio today full of R&B slow jams?

No, of course not. Even 2009 is very different from today in a lot of ways.

I respect your opinion.

The 2000s and 2010s are as similar to each other as the 1980s and 1990s. Both sets of decades sort of coincide with each other in a more 'macro' historical sense of the word. The 80s & 90s are tied to the massive rise in right wing politics with the Reagan revolution (not to mention the presidencies of HW Bush and Clinton whom were also fairly right wing), the rise in PCs/Internet, Video Rental stores, the decline & eventual dissolution of the Soviet Union, and the War on Drugs, among other trends. The 00s & 10s have been defined by terrorism, a turbulent economy, environmental awareness, LGBTQ rights, the neoconservative push in politics, etc. etc. The decades listed are distinct on their own terms, but they definitely go along in a larger era.

In a Western viewpoint, the decades (or more specifically, the years listed) typically go like this:

1945-1963: The Post War Period (the late 40s, 50s, & early 60s)

1964-1980: The Cultural Revolution (the 60s & 70s)

1981-2001: The Reagan/Thatcher Revolution (the 80s & 90s)

2001-present: Post 9/11 (the 00s & 10s)


I agree with this. I think eras tend to be more accurate and concrete when counted by 20s than 10s

I agree with this. I think eras tend to be more accurate and concrete when counted by 20s than 10s

It depends on the scope. From today's perspective, we look at eras before the 1900s by chunks of 100 years.

The 2000s and 2010s are as similar to each other as the 1980s and 1990s. Both sets of decades sort of coincide with each other in a more 'macro' historical sense of the word. The 80s & 90s are tied to the massive rise in right wing politics with the Reagan revolution (not to mention the presidencies of HW Bush and Clinton whom were also fairly right wing), the rise in PCs/Internet, Video Rental stores, the decline & eventual dissolution of the Soviet Union, and the War on Drugs, among other trends. The 00s & 10s have been defined by terrorism, a turbulent economy, environmental awareness, LGBTQ rights, the neoconservative push in politics, etc. etc. The decades listed are distinct on their own terms, but they definitely go along in a larger era.

In a Western viewpoint, the decades (or more specifically, the years listed) typically go like this:

1945-1963: The Post War Period (the late 40s, 50s, & early 60s)

1964-1980: The Cultural Revolution (the 60s & 70s)

1981-2001: The Reagan/Thatcher Revolution (the 80s & 90s)

2001-present: Post 9/11 (the 00s & 10s)


Disagree with this. The 80s and 90s as a whole do not belong together. I mean sure, the H.W. Bush years might have been similar to the Regan years, but definitely NOT the Clinton years. That's stretching it.

Disagree with this. The 80s and 90s as a whole do not belong together. I mean sure, the H.W. Bush years might have been similar to the Regan years, but definitely NOT the Clinton years. That's stretching it.

They will in the future. Like how the 1880s and 1890s belong together. As time goes on, decades become less distinct. Soon people will divide eras with "before the internet" and after.

Well if years best go together in “twenties” we have the premise that the 2000s and 2010s go together;  fair enough.

But then, too, the 2010s and 2020s would “go together”.

Which leaves us with the situation that the 2000s and 2020s also go together, because they each go with the 2010s.

This is a troll thread, right?

To be honest, the 2000s feel completely different from the 2010s, the music, the technology, the movies and shows, games, etc.

Some people my exaggerate the difference between the 2010s and 2000s because they want the 2000s to have its own identity. But from a person who is a lot older they probably won't see much difference and I get that. To me because I grew up in the 2000s and was an adult in the 2010s it is different. But for someone who is 50 years old it probably isn't. The 2000s are unique because the decade tried hard to not have an identity, and its identity became trying to not have an identity. Which is good it wasn't as cheesy as the 2010s and decades before that so it will age well.

Some people my exaggerate the difference between the 2010s and 2000s because they want the 2000s to have its own identity. But from a person who is a lot older they probably won't see much difference and I get that. To me because I grew up in the 2000s and was an adult in the 2010s it is different. But for someone who is 50 years old it probably isn't. The 2000s are unique because the decade tried hard to not have an identity, and its identity became trying to not have an identity. Which is good it wasn't as cheesy as the 2010s and decades before that so it will age well.


My mum is 53 and she doesn’t think the 90s have much of an identity either. I remember asking her what she associates with the 90s and she couldn’t think of anything, other than the Spice Girls.

She’s a big 70s and 80s lover, adores Bowie, Duran Duran etc, but she doesn’t care at all about the 90s.

My mum is 53 and she doesn’t think the 90s have much of an identity either. I remember asking her what she associates with the 90s and she couldn’t think of anything, other than the Spice Girls.

She’s a big 70s and 80s lover, adores Bowie, Duran Duran etc, but she doesn’t care at all about the 90s.
Dang, I have a cousin who's 51 and she was big into 2000s rnb. I guess it varies on a person but my family kept up with pop culture long after they became adults and had children.

Some people my exaggerate the difference between the 2010s and 2000s because they want the 2000s to have its own identity. But from a person who is a lot older they probably won't see much difference and I get that. To me because I grew up in the 2000s and was an adult in the 2010s it is different. But for someone who is 50 years old it probably isn't. The 2000s are unique because the decade tried hard to not have an identity, and its identity became trying to not have an identity. Which is good it wasn't as cheesy as the 2010s and decades before that so it will age well.


I mean, the 00s had camp: emo, all those cheesy “epic” movies, High School Musical, etc.

My mum is 53 and she doesn’t think the 90s have much of an identity either. I remember asking her what she associates with the 90s and she couldn’t think of anything, other than the Spice Girls.

She’s a big 70s and 80s lover, adores Bowie, Duran Duran etc, but she doesn’t care at all about the 90s.


Decade identity was waning in the 90's due to the infiltration of the world wide web in the last third third of that decade 90'-96' was the most distinctive ,things like eraser tops/high tops, are pure 90's as well as the shell suit jackets with the bright neon stripes, my mother bought me one  in 97' and it was not dated at all at the time

I mean, the 00s had camp: emo, all those cheesy “epic” movies, High School Musical, etc.


I went to a nightclub last night and 70% of the songs they were playing were from the early to mid 00s ... I've noticed the 2010s doesn't have a lot of party songs that aren't hip hop, and most of those party songs are from the very beginning of this decade.

I went to a nightclub last night and 70% of the songs they were playing were from the early to mid 00s ... I've noticed the 2010s doesn't have a lot of party songs that aren't hip hop, and most of those party songs are from the very beginning of this decade.


What about dance pop, electropop, dubstep, EDM? Yeah, most of that is from the beginning of the decade, but I would argue the 2000s leaned much heavier into rap and hip-hop being party music.

They play pop songs at nightclubs? I only can think of highschool parties that do that since good DJ's aren't the cheapest to hire. Most of the clubs I went to play full-on EDM or remixes of pop songs at best (but you can basically take any hit song and turn it into a rave remix that barely resembles the original).

They play pop songs at nightclubs? I only can think of highschool parties that do that since good DJ's aren't the cheapest to hire. Most of the clubs I went to play full-on EDM or remixes of pop songs at best (but you can basically take any hit song and turn it into a rave remix that barely resembles the original).


Yeah they do at this place, I don't know, maybe it's cheaper where I live to hire a good DJ?

@LooseBolt Yeah the early 2010s had a lot of non-hip hop party music, but the second half of the decade has been all about trap.

Smartphones didnt become remotely mainstream until 2011,maybe late 2010 at the earliest. Electropop died out in 2013. The economy boomed in the late 10s. And trump was elected in 2016. Why do people keep saying this?

I don't think it is. Both decades felt distinctly different to me. The 2010s were not similar to the 2000s at all. And how can the 2000s be similar to the 90s? We didn't even have the internet throughout most of the 90s and even when we did in 1997 and 98, it was nothing like the internet in the 2000s. Two completely different decades. These are just my thoughts I don't mean to start any forum arguments ;D

In the minds of average ordinary folks that's the general mentality sadly. That everything 2000-onwards is modern. Makes things so lame and boring but those who have a voice around our generation don't care.

Average people dont care about decades anymore after 2000 sadly. It's sad because there was potential.

As salty, bitter, or triggered we may be about it, forever people are always going to group the 80's and 90's together while people are always going to group the 00's and 10's together. Emman said it best, how the pop culture has moved slowly the past 20 years compared to the fast moving pop culture throughout the 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's. Because of the cultural identities those eras had before internet access and the WWW came into our culture and changed everything. I do agree that 2000-2004 doesn't deserve to be grouped with the modern era, especially 2000-2002 for sure which feel more related to the 90's overall.


Nowadays people group the 90s with 2000s not so much the 2010s anymore. I wouldn’t be surprised if people group the 2010s and 2020s together in the future

Nowadays people group the 90s with 2000s not so much the 2010s anymore. I wouldn’t be surprised if people group the 2010s and 2020s together in the future

I don't think it's possible for the 2000s to ever be grouped with the '90s since it is part of the new millennium. That's why it makes more sense to group the 2000s and 2010s together. They not only both belong to the same century, but the same millennium as well.

While cultural change has definitely slowed down (1980 - 2000 is a bigger difference than 2000 - 2020), I disagree with the OP. In general, the 2010's are very distinct from the 2000's.

I don't think it's possible for the 2000s to ever be grouped with the '90s since it is part of the new millennium. That's why it makes more sense to group the 2000s and 2010s together. They not only both belong to the same century, but the same millennium as well.


2000s music is way more similar to 90s music then it is to 2010s music, it doesn’t matter if it’s part of a new millennium or century to me. 2000s culture has way more in common with the 90s then it does with the 2010s. Post-Grunge, Emo and Rnb 2000s feels more connected to the 90s. It just feels like a bridge between the Late 20th century and Early 21ist Century