MTV
Boomerang
MTV LIVE
MTV 2
TV LAND
LOGO
MTV CLASSIC
Tru tv
Teen Nick


what channels do you think will get the AXE

VH1
BET
Reboot of CourTV

MTV
Boomerang
MTV LIVE
MTV 2
TV LAND
LOGO
MTV CLASSIC
Tru tv
Teen Nick


what channels do you think will get the AXE


A pretty accurate list. That MTV chunk of channels (throw VH 1 in there too) have so outlived their usefulness and are so beyond dated that it isn't even funny anymore. Logo is rapidly becoming irrelevant due to the assimilation of LGBT+ programming into the mainstream, which no longer necessitates a separate channel for said programming. Though at the moment it is redeemed by the fact that it's about the only place one can see the classic "Mama's Family". (But hopefully Hulu or some other streaming service of that nature will pick that show up). TV Land only EVER shows the same two shows, "Everybody Loves Raymond" (blech!), and "King of Queens" over and over and over again. Imagine a network existing off just two old shows. Unbelievable! (Yeah, yeah, I know they show other things too, but face it, they basically just show those two shows). Teen Nick might hang in there if it morphs into something else and becomes more sophisticated. I don't really know too much about Boomerang or Tru TV.

TV in general.

Logo is rapidly becoming irrelevant due to the assimilation of LGBT+ programming into the mainstream, which no longer necessitates a separate channel for said programming.


Logo hasn't been gay for a few years. 

Logo hasn't been gay for a few years.


All I see is Married With Children reruns

Logo hasn't been gay for a few years.


Yeah, but it's still the overriding feel of it, it's raison d'être so to speak. Plenty of LGBT+ PSA's, etc. But the fact that, as you say, Logo itself is marginalizing that proves that it has pretty much outlived it's usefulness or original intent and seems like it's hanging by a thread.

Yeah, but it's still the overriding feel of it, it's raison d'être so to speak. Plenty of LGBT+ PSA's, etc. But the fact that, as you say, Logo itself is marginalizing that proves that it has pretty much outlived it's usefulness or original intent and seems like it's hanging by a thread.


Where will people go to get gay programming? ???

Where will people go to get gay programming? ???


Gay programming has basically become mainstream. I said BASICALLY. I know there's a way to go yet, but it's the trend. "Separate" media for this type of thing is becoming a thing of the past as rapidly as gay bars. For better or worse as the case may be, and whether one agrees or disagrees that it's for the better (be the person doing the agreeing or disagreeing gay or no) it's still the trend.

MTV
Boomerang
MTV LIVE
MTV 2
TV LAND
LOGO
MTV CLASSIC
Tru tv
Teen Nick


what channels do you think will get the AXE

I agree about MTV and all its affiliates. (If not sooner)

The only thing I like on TruTV is Paranormal Survivor.

Also, as a gay person, I had no idea MTV was now a gay channel?  ???

MTV
Boomerang
MTV LIVE
MTV 2
TV LAND
LOGO
MTV CLASSIC
Tru tv
Teen Nick


what channels do you think will get the AXE

Tru TV was full of some crazy reality shows. I remember watching South Beach Tow and Hardcore Pawn and kind of miss it.

The only thing I like on TruTV is Paranormal Survivor.

Also, as a gay person, I had no idea MTV was now a gay channel?  ???


MTV owns logo

MTV owns logo


I had never heard of Logo until just now. Interesting.

TV isn't dead already?

The only thing I like on TruTV is Paranormal Survivor.

Also, as a gay person, I had no idea MTV was now a gay channel?  ???


Logo isn't really gay anymore. It's basically 6 campy but not openly gay shows being replayed all the time. Logo was interesting when it has RuPaul's drag race but RuPaul's programmers realized they could reach a much larger audience if they went to another channel. After that happened, Logo went kaput.

Where will people go to get gay programming? ???


Why is it your concern? They'll just watch gay porn on the internet.

MTV and VH1 cause why keep them as a channel if you're only going to show stupid reality shows? ::)

MTV and VH1 cause why keep them as a channel if you're only going to show stupid reality shows? ::)


I heard its being bought by cbs

Why is it your concern? They'll just watch gay porn on the internet.


Not gay porn, Howard. Gay shows ;D

Why is it your concern? They'll just watch gay porn on the internet.


Curiosity. I just kinda wondered where gay people would go to get programming. And,ii suppose,what exactly "gay programming" is.  ???

Curiosity. I just kinda wondered where gay people would go to get programming. And,ii suppose,what exactly "gay programming" is.  ???


Netflix has some stuff. Orange Is The New Black, Sense8, Sex Education etc. I've only watched Orange Is The New Black.

Gay programming is basically any show where a gay (or transgender) character or characters are the main focus. A gay romance story, a movie about coming out to your parents or being bullied in school, or even a drag competition etc.

MTV and VH1 cause why keep them as a channel if you're only going to show stupid reality shows? ::)

Rather than music-oriented programming, like they did when they first debuted. I agree.

gay shows, gay porn, they're all the same.


No, they're different. That would be like saying Seinfeld is straight porn because men and women kiss in that show.

TV in general.

Indeed so!!

Why is it your concern? They'll just watch gay porn on the internet.



gay shows, gay porn, they're all the same.


What awful comments. You need to seriously raise your consciousness.

gay shows, gay porn, they're all the same.


Wow, Howard.  I'm really surprised and disappointed by these comments.  I can only imagine what you say in real life without a filter.  You know very well there are gay people on this forum and yet you let your homophobia fly freely.  It shouldn't be allowed.  BAN HOWARD! BAN HOWARD!

What awful comments. You need to seriously raise your consciousness.



I'm sorry, I do apologize for my comments.

TV in general.


I keep telling everyone this. If you don't enjoy Netflix by now then I don't know what to say. I've been preaching it on this forum. I've been watching so many epic Netflix and HBO series lately and have never missed a beat. I don't watch CW much anymore, and I don't watch AMC anymore either. TV is only cool for sports, news, and very few reality shows (like American Ninja Warrior).

I keep telling everyone this. If you don't enjoy Netflix by now then I don't know what to say. I've been preaching it on this forum. I've been watching so many epic Netflix and HBO series lately and have never missed a beat. I don't watch CW much anymore, and I don't watch AMC anymore either. TV is only cool for sports, news, and very few reality shows (like American Ninja Warrior).


TV has been a sewer ever since The WB went off the air.

TV has been a sewer ever since The WB went off the air.


2006

I keep telling everyone this. If you don't enjoy Netflix by now then I don't know what to say. I've been preaching it on this forum. I've been watching so many epic Netflix and HBO series lately and have never missed a beat. I don't watch CW much anymore, and I don't watch AMC anymore either. TV is only cool for sports, news, and very few reality shows (like American Ninja Warrior).


Are we counting Netflix as something separate from "TV"? Just to clarify, the post from Millennium said "TV in general", it didn't say "broadcast TV in general".  So "TV in general" would include Netflix. (Though I realize Netflix can be viewed on devices other than TVs). Having gotten that bit of semantics out of the way, I agree with you. Broadcast TV has become pure garbage and has been for a long time. We live in an on demand culture (for better or worse) and "appointment TV" is a thing of the past. Except for the Superbowl I suppose, for those who care to watch it.  Now that I have Netflix, the endless commercials of broadcast TV seem more and more jarring and unnecessary. Broadcast TV is on the way out. And I don't say this without some sadness. As someone who comes from the old monoculture, there was something energizing about watching something on TV and knowing the rest of the country was likely watching it too. One felt " a part of something". Now it's fragmented into a million pieces and everyone is in their own silo. But progress marches on I guess.

Are we counting Netflix as something separate from "TV"? Just to clarify, the post from Millennium said "TV in general", it didn't say "broadcast TV in general".  So "TV in general" would include Netflix. (Though I realize Netflix can be viewed on devices other than TVs). Having gotten that bit of semantics out of the way, I agree with you. Broadcast TV has become pure garbage and has been for a long time. We live in an on demand culture (for better or worse) and "appointment TV" is a thing of the past. Except for the Superbowl I suppose, for those who care to watch it.  Now that I have Netflix, the endless commercials of broadcast TV seem more and more jarring and unnecessary. Broadcast TV is on the way out. And I don't say this without some sadness. As someone who comes from the old monoculture, there was something energizing about watching something on TV and knowing the rest of the country was likely watching it too. One felt " a part of something". Now it's fragmented into a million pieces and everyone is in their own silo. But progress marches on I guess.


Lately I've been seeing more and more people jump on bandwagons for shows on Netflix and HBO. I wouldn't be surprised if HBO, Disney, Youtube and maybe 2 other networks/companies/platforms...whatever, eventually rivaled Netflix and eventually it'll all "devolved" back into a 5 channel world.

Lately I've been seeing more and more people jump on bandwagons for shows on Netflix and HBO. I wouldn't be surprised if HBO, Disney, Youtube and maybe 2 other networks/companies/platforms...whatever, eventually rivaled Netflix and eventually it'll all "devolved" back into a 5 channel world.


Could be, but it would still be on demand rather than appointment television, which is a completely different landscape than the old three channel world it was when I was growing up back in the 60s and 70s. Just think, they showed someone ONCE and never again, except maybe for a onetime summer rerun. So if you missed it, that was it.

Oh no, I stayed in a third world countries in the '90s with five boring channels, and my grandma's TV was black and white too. I'm not about that life ;D

Lately I've been seeing more and more people jump on bandwagons for shows on Netflix and HBO. I wouldn't be surprised if HBO, Disney, Youtube and maybe 2 other networks/companies/platforms...whatever, eventually rivaled Netflix and eventually it'll all "devolved" back into a 5 channel world.


HBO has HBO now their own streaming platform

Showtime has their own as well complete with LIVE feed on the app

So we are just going to pretend that Howard didn't say that stuff then?

TV has been a sewer ever since The WB went off the air.

2006

and became the CW

So we are just going to pretend that Howard didn't say that stuff then?


Let it Go
Let it Go
Turn away and slam the door

TV has been a sewer ever since The WB went off the air.


2006? It's debatable but yeah, TV took a big hit in the late 2000's, but at the same time you didn't have much reliable streaming services yet. The combination of the rise of social media and streaming shows on any platform has caused TV networks to decline.

So we are just going to pretend that Howard didn't say that stuff then?


Other people beside yourself made it clear he was in the wrong. Howard apologised and deleted his post. You've posted here for long enough to know what Howard is like

Are we counting Netflix as something separate from "TV"? Just to clarify, the post from Millennium said "TV in general", it didn't say "broadcast TV in general".  So "TV in general" would include Netflix. (Though I realize Netflix can be viewed on devices other than TVs). Having gotten that bit of semantics out of the way, I agree with you. Broadcast TV has become pure garbage and has been for a long time. We live in an on demand culture (for better or worse) and "appointment TV" is a thing of the past. Except for the Superbowl I suppose, for those who care to watch it.  Now that I have Netflix, the endless commercials of broadcast TV seem more and more jarring and unnecessary. Broadcast TV is on the way out. And I don't say this without some sadness. As someone who comes from the old monoculture, there was something energizing about watching something on TV and knowing the rest of the country was likely watching it too. One felt " a part of something". Now it's fragmented into a million pieces and everyone is in their own silo. But progress marches on I guess.


I think most of us, if not all of us are talking about broadcast TV. OP said MTV, Boomerang, MTV LIVE, MTV 2..... Tru TV which are all broadcast TV networks. Netflix is a streaming service. You can use Netfllix on your TV screen, laptop or desktop computer, phone, and so forth, it is an APP after all.

Broadcast TV has been slowly dying even before Netflix got popular because reality TV has taken over a lot of networks over the years that used to be good with great original content (MTV or Food Network for example) or networks that used to have a lot of variety on its schedule before the rise of YouTube, forum sites and social media on the internet (BET, Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, SPIKE, G4, etc.).

Back in let's say 2004, MySpace and Facebook were just getting started, and you didn't have YouTube, Instagram, Snapchat, or any of those sites to be able to have other ways of entertainment. Most sites were still Web 1.0 despite Web 2.0 just getting started, and we were still in the flip phone era. No smartphones, iPhones, or other mini-platforms where you could stream stuff and have internet access everywhere you go. So besides a few forum sites here and there, your only other way of entertainment was through cable watching a lot of shows on TV networks and the schedules had tons of variety.

But yeah, college football, NFL and NBA will continue to get high ratings. As well as the big Super Bowl, NBA Finals, and World Series events that happen once a year. Some reality shows on ABC, NBC, CBS, or FOX will continue to get high ratings as well.

TV has been a sewer ever since The WB went off the air.


So what do you watch instead? ???

So by 2024, What will we be watching and what channels will be available by then? ???

So by 2024, What will we be watching and what channels will be available by then? ???


I do not know what we'll be watching, but it will likely be on a Google Glass sort of device.

I do not know what we'll be watching, but it will likely be on a Google Glass sort of device.


and I'll still keep my computer.

Some reality shows on ABC, NBC, CBS, or FOX will continue to get high ratings as well.


Like all other TV genres including the western, the variety show, etc, reality shows will eventually run their course. And it won't be too soon for me.  They have hung in for so long because they are far more inexpensive to make compared to other types of programs, thus generating higher revenue. 

Like all other TV genres including the western, the variety show, etc, reality shows will eventually run their course. And it won't be too soon for me.  They have hung in for so long because they are far more inexpensive to make compared to other types of programs, thus generating higher revenue.


Not to mention the social harm they cause by making stupid people famous.

Um....all of them! Lol.

So I guess by 2024 just about every TV Channel will be on computers.

So I guess by 2024 just about every TV Channel will be on computers.


The point isn't what the content is being viewed on, the point is what it is and how it is being delivered.

So I guess by 2024 just about every TV Channel will be on computers.


sling tv direct tv now are live streaming cable tv

TV, videos, anime, still life, and sitcoms - non-exsistent by 2022.  The world will shift in favor of reality TV

I'm sorry, I do apologize for my comments.

Its ok buddy..... Maybe you were in a bad mood @ the time :)

sling tv direct tv now are live streaming cable tv



I think in 5 years we'll be using those touch screens, instead of remote controls, we'll be using our fingers to change the channels on the screen.

I think in 5 years we'll be using those touch screens, instead of remote controls, we'll be using our fingers to change the channels on the screen.


Sling Tv and DirecTvnow already have this

Sling Tv and DirecTvnow already have this


So what will happen to remote controls within the next 5 years?

I think in 5 years we'll be using those touch screens, instead of remote controls, we'll be using our fingers to change the channels on the screen.


Nowadays most TVs allow you to use your phone as the remote.

100% MTV will be gone


they are already turning into a third party company like Sega
have given the rights to their IP's to netflix and Facebook

Celebrity death match is going to be on Netflix and Daria is as well

100% MTV will be gone


they are already turning into a third party company like Sega
have given the rights to their IP's to netflix and Facebook

Celebrity death match is going to be on Netflix and Daria is as well


I definitely agree that MTV will officially be dead by 2024.

The Weather Channel.

I definitely agree that MTV will officially be dead by 2024.

If not earlier. (In a sense I feel that it is kinda "dead" in one way or another.)

The Spice Channel.

The Spice Channel.


Yeah, why have these channels when you easily view so much porn it's beyond belief on the internet. I don't need to pay money just to watch two people screwing.

Yeah, why have these channels when you easily view so much porn it's beyond belief on the internet. I don't need to pay money just to watch two people screwing.


A long time ago I was invited by a supplier of mine to go over to his in-laws' house to just hang out. Father in law was a very wealthy dude, ran a local business that was hugely successful.

At the time, which was the early 1990s, the father in law owned one Corvette from every model year. My buddy was not allowed to touch any of them because a few months prior, he had rolled F-I-L's Porsche 911 IN THE DRIVEWAY.  ;D. It was kind of a long driveway, but still...

Anyway we go into the living room, and my buddy's brother in law, who was maybe 12 years old, had The Spice Channel showing on the TV. Hard core action, too. His mother came into the room and asked me and my buddy if we wanted a beer or anything.

I figured the kid was gonna get reamed over the porn, but Mama did not bat an eyelash. Very weird situation.

If not earlier. (In a sense I feel that it is kinda "dead" in one way or another.)


in 2017 they brought back TRL banking on this would once again be a huge hit for them,
as of 2019 the show has been canceled lol

I also notice they brought back Jersey Shore and hoping it was a hit, it really is not a big of a hit as it was in the early 2010s.
The fact that MTV is giving out its IP's to Netflix and Facebook Watch is really telling and very Sega 2001 Esque of where this
company is going.

in 2017 they brought back TRL banking on this would once again be a huge hit for them,
as of 2019 the show has been canceled lol

I also notice they brought back Jersey Shore and hoping it was a hit, it really is not a big of a hit as it was in the early 2010s.
The fact that MTV is giving out its IP's to Netflix and Facebook Watch is really telling and very Sega 2001 Esque of where this
company is going.


Maybe if thy brought back Martha Quinn :-* they could recreate the magic? ???

Maybe if thy brought back Martha Quinn :-* they could recreate the magic? ???


who that

^ Martha Quinn is one of MTV's original VJ's from when the channel went on the air in the early 80's.

^ Martha Quinn is one of MTV's original VJ's from when the channel went on the air in the early 80's.


And smoking hot.

news channels.

news channels.


Definitely CNN.

Definitely CNN.


I would sure think so since we can easily find free news channels to watch and to listen to.

news channels.

Definitely CNN.

Maybe, maybe not. Or maybe one of the other ones.

Definitely CNN.


lmao YOU of all people would say this  ;D

All channels!!

HGTV. Only so many times you can watch Flea Market Flip.

HGTV. Only so many times you can watch Flea Market Flip.


My parents watch that 24/7.

HGTV. Only so many times you can watch Flea Market Flip.


I feel the same way about Food Network. Both are past its prime when the networks actually had a good lineup of shows.

I feel the same way about Food Network. Both are past its prime when the networks actually had a good lineup of shows.


Yep. The Food channel is suffering from Guy Fieri overload, much like when the channel used to be Emeril Lagasse 24/7. Both are good cooks but after a while you get tired of seeing them constantly.

However, I would like to see more of that hot chick from Kentucky, Damaris Phillips :-* as well as Giada Delaurentiis with her revealing clothes.  :P

And while I sometimes like to watch ensemble show, The Kitchen, I find Katie Lee Joel simply vacuous. If they replaced her with Damaris :-* that show would really cook.

I feel the same way about Food Network. Both are past its prime when the networks actually had a good lineup of shows.


My Mother watches The Food Network.

My Mother watches The Food Network.


What's her favorite show? ???

What's her favorite show? ???


She watches a variety of them including Guy Fieri, and a bunch of those food challenges too.

She watches a variety of them including Guy Fieri, and a bunch of those food challenges too.


In order to win those challenges your dish has to include a ganache.

In order to win those challenges your dish has to include a ganache.


Exactly and those food tasters have to look at what dish has the best presence and if it tastes good to the judges.

I feel the same way about Food Network. Both are past its prime when the networks actually had a good lineup of shows.

Oh yes. I especially enjoyed watching Emeril Lagasse on that channel, during the early-mid 2000s. He was interesting to watch.

But then...


... those food challenges too.


Exactly and those food tasters have to look at what dish has the best presence and if it tastes good to the judges.

And programs like that ("food challenges") don't really appeal to me.

Oh yes. I especially enjoyed watching Emeril Lagasse on that channel, during the early-mid 2000s. He was interesting to watch.

But then...
And programs like that ("food challenges") don't really appeal to me.


and then there was also Yan Can Cook.
https://caamedia.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/04/martin_yan_t1200.jpg

and then there was also Yan Can Cook.
https://caamedia.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/04/martin_yan_t1200.jpg


They had some other Cajun dude, too, who used to say "I guarOWNtee....!!!"  He was pretty cool.

Oh yes. I especially enjoyed watching Emeril Lagasse on that channel, during the early-mid 2000s. He was interesting to watch.

But then...
And programs like that ("food challenges") don't really appeal to me.
All the cooking programs all look the same to me.

They had some other Cajun dude, too, who used to say "I guarOWNtee....!!!"  He was pretty cool.


That was Justin Wilson, he died in 2001.  :\'(

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/64/Justin_Wilson_%28chef%29.jpg/220px-Justin_Wilson_%28chef%29.jpg

That was Justin Wilson, he died in 2001.  :\'(

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/64/Justin_Wilson_%28chef%29.jpg/220px-Justin_Wilson_%28chef%29.jpg


I guess that's why I haven't seen him on TV for a while. They oughtta do some reruns, his stuff was good.

I guess that's why I haven't seen him on TV for a while. They oughtta do some reruns, his stuff was good.



There's always YouTube.

I can easily see this happening sooner. There is no reason why internet can't replace cable as you will get the exact same content. Having said that, it may not be going away because radio hasn't. TV may be like the radio where it will simply stick around until the end of time and the internet won't replace it. But logically speaking there is no reason why it shouldn't die off especially as the internet gets more and more reliable and surpasses the reliability of cable television. But it may simply stick around.

We could launch a series based on long time InThe00s members.  ;D

I can easily see this happening sooner. There is no reason why internet can't replace cable as you will get the exact same content. Having said that, it may not be going away because radio hasn't. TV may be like the radio where it will simply stick around until the end of time and the internet won't replace it. But logically speaking there is no reason why it shouldn't die off especially as the internet gets more and more reliable and surpasses the reliability of cable television. But it may simply stick around.


You are correct, terrestrial radio hasn't died off completely but it HAS become irrelevant, which is what I see happening to broadcast television, sooner rather than later.

You are correct, terrestrial radio hasn't died off completely but it HAS become irrelevant, which is what I see happening to broadcast television, sooner rather than later.

It hasn't though because police officers and emergency personnel still use the technology fully. And AM and FM radio stations still get played. Some smartphones even have FM transmitters. Same as cable now, it's around and many people still use it but you can easily live without it and more people aren't as interested as before but it's still relevant nonetheless.

We could launch a series based on long time InThe00s members.  ;D


No, don't even think about it!

We could launch a series based on long time InThe00s members.  ;D
I cannot be committed.

I'm going to guess that The Weather Channel will be non existent in 2024.

I'm going to guess that The Weather Channel will be non existent in 2024.
Especially with all this Global Warming going on?

I'm going to guess that The Weather Channel will be non existent in 2024.

With most weather news being available via apps now? Maybe so.

But I think M.T.V. will be truly nonexistent first.

With most weather news being available via apps now? Maybe so.
...or just look out of the window?  ;D

...or just look out of the window?  ;D

Yes, but we need meteorologists to make weather forecasts, that is, project the weather conditions over the next several days. Such people are also trained to analyze weather patterns and see how they'll affect certain areas.

Especially with all this Global Warming going on?


This is why you got the computer to tell you the weather.

With most weather news being available via apps now? Maybe so.

But I think M.T.V. will be truly nonexistent first.


and also weather web sites too.

and also weather web sites too.

Don't say that... weather web sites will still be around. They are the sources that many people turn to for weather. (Unless I misunderstood you?)

Don't say that... weather web sites will still be around. They are the sources that many people turn to for weather. (Unless I misunderstood you?)


I meant you can check weather via web sites instead of checking the television.

I meant you can check weather via web sites instead of checking the television.

That's true, you can. It can also be seen on television newscasts.

sports channels.

sports channels.

Once again, those always live on. Case in point, MLB Network has been going strong for 10 years, and they have the kind of programming you won't get on most other sports channels (except baseball game broadcasts, which of course can be seen on general sports channels, including local ones such as Fox Sports Whatever).

sports channels.
Mostly pay-to-view!

Anything that is good  FX, ESPN will be here to stay while anything sub par like MTV VH1, Logo,  TV land will be gone

Mostly pay-to-view!


and some of them you can watch for free.

and some of them you can watch for free.
A small minority