As much as I realized I thought it wouldn't distract me, I find my self listening to Drake out of pure nostalgia now. This is why over confidence is such a terrible thing because ultimately, Drake did it to him self.

I'mma stick to early 2010s Drake since while I'm in that vibe, all of this has yet to happen at least.

Drake is still good to me.

Early 2010s Drake is awesome.

Why would he be ruined? His last song "Nice for What" was a bop.

I've always had mixed feelings about Drake. I didn't think this situation would effect my perspective of him but I won't lie, I've been feeling turned off lately. In the beginning of his career, it was very hard to defend Drake. And now in the present, it's hard to defend him, it's like things came full circle lol. Even if he does respond, it'll be too late tbh...I won't care by then.

He'll still sell well though because he has a huge pop fanbase who don't even care about rap beefs.

I've always had mixed feelings about Drake. I didn't think this situation would effect my perspective of him but I won't lie, I've been feeling turned off lately. In the beginning of his career, it was very hard to defend Drake. And now in the present, it's hard to defend him, it's like things came full circle lol. Even if he does respond, it'll be too late tbh...I won't care by then.

He'll still sell well though because he has a huge pop fanbase who don't even care about rap beefs.


That's me lol. Always there for my Toronto homies.  :-X

That's me lol. Always there for my Toronto homies.  :-X
Yeah most of Drake's fanbase aren't into hip-hop like that which is why he was able to stay afloat despite him being called out for having a ghost-writer. Hip-Hop heads will listen to Drake he's featured on a track or when he's featuring another artist which is why  he was able to appeal to large African-American hip-hop audience despite being from Canada and not growing up in a crime-ridden ghetto because of his connections with Cash Money and his Rnb influence keeps him relevant among general rap listeners.

I've always had mixed feelings about Drake. I didn't think this situation would effect my perspective of him but I won't lie, I've been feeling turned off lately. In the beginning of his career, it was very hard to defend Drake. And now in the present, it's hard to defend him, it's like things came full circle lol. Even if he does respond, it'll be too late tbh...I won't care by then.

He'll still sell well though because he has a huge pop fanbase who don't even care about rap beefs.

Why do you have mixed feelings about Drake? Also, why was he so hard to defend early in his career? (just asking)

Why do you have mixed feelings about Drake? Also, why was he so hard to defend early in his career? (just asking)

In the beginning of his career he was seen as really soft. The mainstream was just getting to know Drake as a rapper, so people were hearing about how he came from a previous acting career/played a guy in a wheel chair, how his real name was Aubrey, and how he didn't grow up poor and made music that showed vulnerability. Not that those things are problematic but they all added to his "soft" image. He also did a lot of cringy stuff like reading freestyles off of his BlackBerry, getting off beat while rapping, fracturing his ankle while skipping across stage, and getting whooped by P.Diddy.

It was hard for me defend all of this because imo he tried to hard to fit in with Young Money. His entire demeanor just seemed forced and you could tell he was trying to combat that soft image
However, he was not good at hiding it. That's why I've always had mixed feelings on him because I could tell his was putting on a front, he just got better at hiding it. I think he should just own up to who he is.
Like putting "I hear fairy tales ‘bout how they gon’ run up on me
Well, run up when you see me, then, and we gon’ see" in his lyrics. He ain't bout that life lol.

In the beginning of his career he was seen as really soft. The mainstream was just getting to know Drake as a rapper, so people were hearing about how he came from a previous acting career/played a guy in a wheel chair, how his real name was Aubrey, and how he didn't grow up poor and made music that showed vulnerability. Not that those things are problematic but they all added to his "soft" image. He also did a lot of cringy stuff like reading freestyles off of his BlackBerry, getting off beat while rapping, fracturing his ankle while skipping across stage, and getting whooped by P.Diddy.

It was hard for me defend all of this because imo he tried to hard to fit in with Young Money. His entire demeanor just seemed forced and you could tell he was trying to combat that soft image
However, he was not good at hiding it. That's why I've always had mixed feelings on him because I could tell his was putting on a front, he just got better at hiding it. I think he should just own up to who he is.
Like putting "I hear fairy tales ‘bout how they gon’ run up on me
Well, run up when you see me, then, and we gon’ see" in his lyrics. He ain't bout that life lol.

Fair enough, I understand. Thanks for explaining.

Everybody loves The Drake.

Drake got exposed by Pusha T so badly I don't know if he'll ever recover from his debacle. Just like Kanye West, what matters is what good music Drakes gives to me. Everything outside of him being a musical artist is completely irrelevant to me including his time on Degrassi too.

Drake got exposed by Pusha T so badly I don't know if he'll ever recover from his debacle. Just like Kanye West, what matters is what good music Drakes gives to me. Everything outside of him being a musical artist is completely irrelevant to me including his time on Degrassi too.
Which is exactly why Drake's career will still live on. Drake's fanbase is mostly under 25 so our generation is used to rappers being "soft". As long as he's able to appeal towards his core fanbase then his career will likely live on.

Which is exactly why Drake's career will still live on. Drake's fanbase is mostly under 25 so our generation is used to rappers being "soft". As long as he's able to appeal towards his core fanbase then his career will likely live on.


Nah, Drake has been around for a long time now. He was big in 2008/2009 with Best I Ever Had.

Nah, Drake has been around for a long time now. He was big in 2008/2009 with Best I Ever Had.
I'm mainly talking about people our age and younger since we were listing to Drake in his early carrer when we were in middle/high school and stuck with him ever since, and you got younger kids who are just getting into hip hop that listens to Drake.

mqg96 just raised me hope. Haha As long as I have his older hits, I'm good. I was never really found of Drake's newer hits to begin with, plus. I just realized I don't f with any artist after their peak anyway.

I think Drake is past his prime but I've always defended him. I've always hated gangsta rap and black machismo. I never understood the black community's bullcrap when it came to blaming everything but the worthless drama between black people in the stifling of the black community.

Who's interested in Drake's Scorpion album?

I watched a YouTube upload of a fan reading out specific lyrics and I'm interested again.

Who's interested in Drake's Scorpion album?

I watched a YouTube upload of a fan reading out specific lyrics and I'm interested again.

I'm listening to "That's How You Feel" right now. It's my favorite song from the album. His new album is absolute fire.

I'm listening to "That's How You Feel" right now. It's my favorite song from the album. His new album is absolute fire.


I'm probably just going to listen to the tracks that are the most highlighted right now if that make sense.

Who's interested in Drake's Scorpion album?

I watched a YouTube upload of a fan reading out specific lyrics and I'm interested again.

I heard the album was boring and it has too many songs.

His new album apparently sucks so maybe :P

Scorpion was kinda trash lmao ;D I mean there were some good tracks, but a big chunk of it is filler. It's going to break lots of records though... as of right now Scorpion is averaging at around 10 MILLION streams per hour on Spotify alone. That's absurd.

I heard the album was boring and it has too many songs.


I'll probably listen to it and never return to it if that's really the case. Take Care is really all I need from Drake.

I see nothing wrong with Drake's music today.  I was never a big rap fan, but I respect anyone from Canada who can make it work.  There isn't enough Canadian rappers in the popular mainstream outside of Canada, but Drake and others like Tory Lanez and PartyNextDoor are doing pretty good!

This guy’s face is on every playlist on Spotify 8-P. It’s really annoying. This is how you get people to hate you 8-P.

He's just ok, although I don't really care to be honest.

Its that time now. I believe Drake's reign is over. There is no way Drake can come back after Scorpion. I don't see his future works being exciting. He needs a break, he's a veteran. What else can he really do?

I would only be hyped for a Take Care part 2 for nostalgia reasons.

The problem is he cares more about selling than about putting out quality music. He's been doing that for a while now and of course he well...got ethered. He will still continue to sell well though, his fanbase is too big.

The problem is he cares more about selling than about putting out quality music. He's been doing that for a while now and of course he well...got ethered. He will still continue to sell well though, his fanbase is too big.


Its not even just about quality music anymore. Drake generally won't be fun to listen to anymore. His legacy is established. If Drake isn't careful, he'll fall into the cheesy category.

I listened to a gap portion of Scorpion and its kind of.. off. The lyrics have that Drake quality but the beats are unusual. That's what kills the album for me and I doubt I'm listening to the R&B side. Its truly what it sounds like, a gap in the album sounds like filler. Its kind of disappointing to since the album has a hype worth name around it.

Drake has redeemed himself after his elegant shout-out to Smoke Dawg.

He was always ruined for me.

I have kept well away!

To be truthful I can't stand Drake.

To be truthful I can't stand Drake.
I prefer the state of innocence on this matter.

To be truthful I can't stand Drake.


Why?

I got Take Care confused with Thank Me Later until recent. Thank Me Later is so overlooked, its truly a phenomenon. Its actually the perfect Drake album with endless charm. Its a classic in its own right.

Why?


His music is as bad, if not, worse than Bieber's music.

His music is as bad, if not, worse than Bieber's music.


But... Bieber's last album was awesome ;D

I give Drake a pass if he may not have written the majority of Thank Me Later or the like. Drake had the right voice that interpreted and matched the style of the lyrics and hook you wouldn't have imagine any other artist rapping over.

Artists write for other artists all the time.

People in this thread talking about how it was the beginning of the end for him a few months back, yet he's right now as big as ever

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People in this thread talking about how it was the beginning of the end for him a few months back, yet he's right now as big as ever

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yeah lol. i wouldn't be surprised if people actually do lose interest in him a short while from now due to overexposure tho. it's really annoying how he's literally everywhere.

yeah lol. i wouldn't be surprised if people actually do lose interest in him a short while from now due to overexposure tho. it's really annoying how he's literally everywhere.


I said a similar notion. That's what I like about early 2010s Drake because he felt like a personal artist you would listen to. No one is going to want to hear anything from him by 2020.

I think 2018 has surpassed Summer 16 as his career's peak. He's been at #1 for almost half the year so far.

People in this thread talking about how it was the beginning of the end for him a few months back, yet he's right now as big as ever

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Started from the bottom now we're here~

Yeah he's ruined for me now OP.

Drake's been extremely stagnant since 2015 but his fans are pretty much a religious cult

Yeah he's ruined for me now OP.


Why's that? Although I haven't been much a Drake fan since the early 10s, I've always understood his popularity throughout his entire career. Why did he sour on you now?

Why's that? Although I haven't been much a Drake fan since the early 10s, I've always understood his popularity throughout his entire career. Why did he sour on you now?

1.) Music has deteriorated / Puts out a 20+ album for streams/sales
2). Telling (not asking or trying to negotiate with) his son's mother to get an abortion
3.) Calling himself a single father & co-parent although he's only seen his son once
4.) He's a culture vulture (one day he's Jamaican and the next he's British)
5.) Pretending to be gangster in a song and then playing victim in another
6.) Repulsive fanbase

Yup. Can't take this guy seriously.

1.) Music has deteriorated / Puts out a 20+ album for streams/sales
2). Telling (not asking or trying to negotiate with) his son's mother to get an abortion
3.) Calling himself a single father & co-parent although he's only seen his son once
4.) He's a culture vulture (one day he's Jamaican and the next he's British)
5.) Pretending to be gangster in a song and then playing victim in another
6.) Repulsive fanbase

Yup. Can't take this guy seriously.


1. I think this actually might be overall current pop cultures fault but I agree.
2,3. Yep. This is awful
4. Ehhh...I think this is more of a sign of pop culture today.
5. haha. This is kind of raps MO tho.
6. I don't deal with Drakes fanbase but I'll take your word for it.

Chris Brown has received an OVO gift from Drake, a starter to positivity. As whats been said, we Need! a Drake and Chris Brown collab. It make too much sense.

So Far Gone isn't for me but Best I Ever Had is a quality introduction to it. It may also play a role that I didn't hear So Far Gone when it was hot. What's been said, Thank Me Later is a slept on classic.

So Far Gone isn't for me but Best I Ever Had is a quality introduction to it. It may also play a role that I didn't hear So Far Gone when it was hot. What's been said, Thank Me Later is a slept on classic.


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