One of my local radio stations recently had a vote on the '500 greatest songs of all time' where listeners could choose one song from each decade. The '00s' list included songs from 2000 right up to the present day. Another local station has a show called 'One Foot in the Groove' and yesterday they had a 00s-themed show, except that they played a song from 2012!

Thirdly, there is a station called Absolute Radio 00s whose tagline is '21st Century Music' and they play music up to the present day.

It seems that '00s' has become synonymous with '21st century'.

I'm wondering what will happen when we reach 2020. Will they continue to treat new music as part of the 00s, or will they realise that 00s means 2000-2009?

I hate when that happens. I'll go on Spotify and they'll have a "2000's playlist" and then there are songs on there from 2010.  ::)

I'm not sure about putting the mid-late '10s and the '00s together, but I've seen a LOT of people consider the early '10s part of the '00s, especially in that Tweetlikeitsthe2000s hashtag.

One of my local radio stations recently had a vote on the '500 greatest songs of all time' where listeners could choose one song from each decade. The '00s' list included songs from 2000 right up to the present day. Another local station has a show called 'One Foot in the Groove' and yesterday they had a 00s-themed show, except that they played a song from 2012!

Thirdly, there is a station called Absolute Radio 00s whose tagline is '21st Century Music' and they play music up to the present day.

It seems that '00s' has become synonymous with '21st century'.

I'm wondering what will happen when we reach 2020. Will they continue to treat new music as part of the 00s, or will they realise that 00s means 2000-2009?

You should piss them off by calling in and asking them to do a 80s list and ask them to include 90s songs.

To me it's like mixing the 1980s/90s or 1960s/70s. I have to correct people. Lol

I hate when people say "this song or movie is from the early 2000s" and then I find out that the song or movie is from 2006 ::).

Honestly, it's even worse, in my opinion, when straight-up 2000s music is considered "90s". I just went back to an old podcast from 2009, and it has the fake announcer calling Kelly Clarkson a "diva from the '90s". Yeah, the singer who didn't even get famous until 2002 and still has some commercial relevance to this day is a relic of the '90s. ::)

I guessing the 2000s is the forgeable decade.

Honestly, it's even worse, in my opinion, when straight-up 2000s music is considered "90s". I just went back to an old podcast from 2009, and it has the fake announcer calling Kelly Clarkson a "diva from the '90s". Yeah, the singer who didn't even get famous until 2002 and still has some commercial relevance to this day is a relic of the '90s. ::)

Either way, I am sick of so many people acting as though the 2000s never even existed. They were the definitive period of my late childhood and early adolescence, so I wish their nostalgia could be treated with some form of dignity and not just be the era ruined by 9/11.


I guessing the 2000s is the forgeable decade.


They're not forgettable, it's just that '90s kids have clouded out their significance.

That's just RUDE.

Honestly, it's even worse, in my opinion, when straight-up 2000s music is considered "90s". I just went back to an old podcast from 2009, and it has the fake announcer calling Kelly Clarkson a "diva from the '90s". Yeah, the singer who didn't even get famous until 2002 and still has some commercial relevance to this day is a relic of the '90s. ::)

Either way, I am sick of so many people acting as though the 2000s never even existed. They were the definitive period of my late childhood and early adolescence, so I wish their nostalgia could be treated with some form of dignity and not just be the era ruined by 9/11.

They're not forgettable, it's just that '90s kids have clouded out their significance.

There are also some playlists that have "2010's music" yet have a few songs from 2009.  ::)

There are also some playlists that have "2010's music" yet have a few songs from 2009.  ::)

Most of the songs from late 2009 got popular in 2010. So i can see why.

I think it has to do with the whole 2000s being considered as a century than a decade thats what people mistake the 2000s (decade) for.

I hate when that happens. I'll go on Spotify and they'll have a "2000's playlist" and then there are songs on there from 2010.  ::)


If you check out some of the Spotify playlists I've created, you'll notice I made a sharp divide between 2004-2008 as "peak" 2000s and 2008-2016 as the core 2010s.

I wish I could give Infinity a Like for that post.

Its until the more you think about it, I don't like it. The 2000s and 2010s are the 2000s and 2010s. Two separate individuals.

Honestly, it's even worse, in my opinion, when straight-up 2000s music is considered "90s". I just went back to an old podcast from 2009, and it has the fake announcer calling Kelly Clarkson a "diva from the '90s". Yeah, the singer who didn't even get famous until 2002 and still has some commercial relevance to this day is a relic of the '90s. ::)

Either way, I am sick of so many people acting as though the 2000s never even existed. They were the definitive period of my late childhood and early adolescence, so I wish their nostalgia could be treated with some form of dignity and not just be the era ruined by 9/11.

They're not forgettable, it's just that '90s kids have clouded out their significance.


This is why I don't blame Slim's logic by saying that the core 2000's lasted from 2000-2005, cause that'll make the 2000's a very great, memorable decade if you think of it like this.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/2000s_decade_montage3.png/420px-2000s_decade_montage3.png

This is a 2000's image I got from wikipedia, and the bottom right represents social media of course, which didn't FULLY start impacting our culture until the late 2000's IMO (see this is everybody's complaint). Twitter didn't even get popular until 2009 at the earliest despite its debut in 2006.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000s_(decade)

Comparing the television sections make me glad I was a kid throughout the 2000's, but at the same time it makes me jealous that I wasn't an older kid or teen throughout the 90's either.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/2000s_decade_montage3.png/420px-2000s_decade_montage3.png

This is a 2000's image I got from wikipedia, and the bottom right represents social media of course, which didn't FULLY start impacting our culture until the late 2000's IMO (see this is everybody's complaint). Twitter didn't even get popular until 2009 at the earliest despite its debut in 2006.


I hate this crap LMAO, some kid on twitter was like

" it's 2009 you are watching TRL and logging on aim............... man I love the 2000s"


I am like 1) TRL was not on the air in 2009,  2) AIM was a shell of itself  3) Please stop lumping 2009 as if it was the majority of the 2000s lol

I hate this crap LMAO, some kid on twitter was like

" it's 2009 you are watching TRL and logging on aim............... man I love the 2000s"


I am like 1) TRL was not on the air in 2009,  2) AIM was a shell of itself  3) Please stop lumping 2009 as if it was the majority of the 2000s lol


I still used AIM pretty heavily up until the early 2010s.  2009 was actually a pretty big AIM year for me personally.  I agree though that it's heyday was probably the early-to-mid 2000s.  It was HUGE in the 2003-04 school year.  In my opinion AIM's slow decline began when the official client became basically bloated adware.  It wasn't even usable unless you used an all-in-one client like Trillian or Pidgin.  This happened around 2006 or 2007 if I remember correctly.

TRL's heyday was the late '90s/early 2000s.  I associate it more with the Y2K era, even though it did last through most of the '00s.

Which radio stations are you referring to? ???

Without invoking the "D" word:

It's one thing to lump the 50s and pre-Beatles 60s together, or pre-9/11 pop songs (Britney, NSYNC, Backstreet Boys) with the 90s, because the culture hadn't changed yet.

But lumping the 2000s and 2010s together? Apart from "Pants on the Ground," they are totally different decades. I wouldn't lump together "Gangnam Style" with "Drop It Like It's Hot" or "Hot In Herre," anymore than I would Halsey and Nickelback/Creed.

Now, if they're referring to the 2000s as the 21st Century and not the decade, that's different. Some radio stations play music from the 80s, 90s, and "today" (meaning anything after December 31, 1999).

WHO THE HELL LISTENS TO THE RADIO!?
IT'S 2016!?!?!?

WHO THE HELL LISTENS TO THE RADIO!?
IT'S 2016!?!?!?


https://qz.com/1094963/radio-survived-the-tape-cd-and-ipod-in-the-age-of-spotify-its-more-popular-than-ever/

https://www.newsgeneration.com/broadcast-resources/radio-facts-and-figures/

WHO THE HELL LISTENS TO THE RADIO!?
IT'S 2016!?!?!?

It's 2018.

WHO THE HELL LISTENS TO THE RADIO!?
IT'S 2016!?!?!?


Not true. Podcasts and sports radio are still very popular.

I still listen to the radio because, its beneficial when you move into your own place yet to have internet or cable. The radio has it to where you don't have to deal with that awkward uneasy silence, preventing a soundless house.

I put it on my favorite radio station and it gives off that lively energy.

G.O.A.T

WHO THE HELL LISTENS TO THE RADIO!?
IT'S 2016!?!?!?
I do! The majority of my listening is on radio!

Honestly it's not as bad as it used to. Back in 2013/2014 I remember, when the 90s craze was huge, people REFUSED to separate the two decades into their own separate things and the first few years of the 2010s were basically seen as a continuation of an era started in 2000. Now at least I hear terms like "the thousands" or "the noughties" much more frequently used to refer to the previous decade, as well as the very often misused term "early 2000s" (but at least it only refers to stuff from the 2000s no matter what, which is on itself is a huge improvement). Of course there are still remnants of that era of lumping the two decades together today, but they're in the vast minority now.

I think this will certainly end when we're in the new decade with a catchy name: "The Twenty-Twenties".


I guessing the 2000s is the forgeable decade.

Lol no, the early 2000s are even all the rage right now. It's just that people happen to suck with terms.

WHO THE HELL LISTENS TO THE RADIO!?
IT'S 2016!?!?!?


I barely listen to the radio myself, I only listen to it for a few minutes when I get dressed.

I don't believe the 2000s will ever have that same decade feel to the general public like the 1990s did even during the '20s when nostalgia for the decade should be at its peak. It's something I've accepted and learned to deal with, just because the general population don't see the 2000s as a real decade doesn't make it the case and the 2000s was still the decade of my childhood. I believe the same will happen for the 2010s.. It is possible everyone has just moved on from the decade pop culture groupings that were popular for a while now but it may come back when the '20s arrive. But I too constantly see people treating the 2000s as just the century, claiming the '90s lasted all the way up to the late 2000s, or saying something from 2009 is "early 2000s".  ::)

This is why I don't blame Slim's logic by saying that the core 2000's lasted from 2000-2005, cause that'll make the 2000's a very great, memorable decade if you think of it like this.

Yup, this is one of the reasons I say that. Too many people just place those years with the 1990s, when really the era is a great part of the 2000s when pop culture was great.

Yup, this is one of the reasons I say that. Too many people just place those years with the 1990s, when really the era is a great part of the 2000s when pop culture was great.
People said the same thing about the 90s when 80s nostagla was going on. I do agree the 2000s nostalgia won't be as big as 90s nostalgia because the 2000s is associated with the 21th century, so everything post 1999 is recent  to someone over 40.

It's probably because both decades are similar and are from the new millennium/21st century.  :)

This thread is just people going in circles, lol.

To be fair, the '00s and the '10s are relatively similar when compared to other decades, so I don't blame people for putting them together.

I hate when that happens.

I know, it makes no sense to me. ::)

I'll go on Spotify and they'll have a "2000's playlist" and then there are songs on there from 2010.  ::)

Even MusicChoice has a "Y2k" channel, which from what I understand is supposed to be the 2000s decade, but that channel puts songs from the early 10's as well. I wish they wouldn't do that.




To me it's like mixing the 1980s/90s or 1960s/70s. I have to correct people. Lol

Exactly!

Anyhoo... there is one station (local to me) whose current gimmick blatantly lumps the 00s and 10s together: KOST, which once upon a time was "Soft rock with less talk", now claims to have "The Best mix of the eighties, nineties, and today"... which would have made sense up through 2009, but not afterwards! I mean, the eighties are a specific decade, so are the nineties...but the "today" part is inconsistent with the rest. I mean, does "...the two-thousands and today" sound more wordy? Even if it does, that would still be accurate in the current decade. I think what KOST should do is find a new slogan/gimmick, one that doesn't lump the decades together, isn't too wordy or factually inaccurate. Something like "Today's hits and yesterday's favourites"?

From what I've seen it's usually older people who seem to think of 2000-present as not two decades but its own giant era. Probably once Millennials/Gen Z gain a stronger foothold in the media and 00s/10s nostalgia starts emerging (early 00s nostalgia is already a thing), these past two decades might start seeing their own identities come to light in the mainstream. At worst, the 2000s and 2010s are viewed in the future as one giant "turn of the century" era, which I suppose really isn't that bad.

What really doesn't help is that nobody can agree on what exactly to call the 2000s or 2010s. Should be exciting to finally live in a decade a year and a half from now whose name we can all agree on.

What really doesn't help is that nobody can agree on what exactly to call the 2000s or 2010s. Should be exciting to finally live in a decade a year and a half from now whose name we can all agree on.

This is what annoys me. The 00s are actually the only decade left out because the 2010s can be referred to as just the "Tens". The 2000s aren't bookended by a pronounced number, so it can only be referred to in full, or as the "Zeros" or the many(more reasonable) variations like the "Aughts" or the "Noughties".  Neither of these have caught on, atleast in Canada.

TL;DR the English language is bad with numbers below 1.

They're not even that similar.

Most radio stations these days play "80s, 90s and Today". 
The 2010s is really the first decade where the music doesn't sound all that different from the previous decade, and anyone who thinks otherwise is reading way to much into it lol

As long as you know what decade the song came out in, who cares what others say?

Most radio stations these days play "80s, 90s and Today". 
The 2010s is really the first decade where the music doesn't sound all that different from the previous decade, and anyone who thinks otherwise is reading way to much into it lol

As long as you know what decade the song came out in, who cares what others say?


electronic/electropop, trap music, and mumble rap are distinct to the 2010's decade.

electronic/electropop, trap music, and mumble rap are distinct to the 2010's decade.


In name yes, but the music doesn't really sound any different to the stuff I heard on the radio in the 00s.

They're not even that similar.
Haha thank you! I don't see how people think that the 00s and 10s are so similar when really there's a lot of differences between the 2 decades.

I hate when that happens. I'll go on Spotify and they'll have a "2000's playlist" and then there are songs on there from 2010.  ::)



Same. I guess people really don't want to remember the 2000s.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/2000s_decade_montage3.png/420px-2000s_decade_montage3.png

This is a 2000's image I got from wikipedia, and the bottom right represents social media of course, which didn't FULLY start impacting our culture until the late 2000's IMO (see this is everybody's complaint). Twitter didn't even get popular until 2009 at the earliest despite its debut in 2006.

Great way to show why most people hate the 2000s.

I don't think the '00s and '10s are very similar, but you could say they are relatively similar especially compared to any other pair of decades after the 1940s. The 1950s to 2000s were like this period of huge cultural and technological change like a cultural renaissance and I think it was a very unique period and I don't see us going back to anything like it again. I don't see the 21st century being as transformative as the 20th century was, just from what I am observing. Maybe the days of clearly defined decades are behind us and society in general (except for us of course) has moved on from that. Maybe culture from now on is just gonna be relatively stagnant.

Anyone who thinks 00s and 10s music sounds the same needs to expand their musical horizons beyond what's played on the radio

I don't think the '00s and '10s are very similar, but you could say they are relatively similar especially compared to any other pair of decades after the 1940s. The 1950s to 2000s were like this period of huge cultural and technological change like a cultural renaissance and I think it was a very unique period and I don't see us going back to anything like it again. I don't see the 21st century being as transformative as the 20th century was, just from what I am observing. Maybe the days of clearly defined decades are behind us and society in general (except for us of course) has moved on from that. Maybe culture from now on is just gonna be relatively stagnant.


You might have a point with the second half of the 20th century being a cultural renaissance. I suppose the 20s will be our last chance to regain decade identity or whatever since it's the first decade since the 90s with a catchy name (sorry, 10s) and the year 2020 should be pretty pivotal for culture (most likely a new president, 2020 Olympics, trap rap will probably be on its last legs). I feel like the 20s might be the first decade where we really start feeling like we're on the cusp of the future, and new cultural phenomena might sprout out of that instead of a lot of the rehashing that's been happening in the 10s.

Anyone who thinks 00s and 10s music sounds the same needs to expand their musical horizons beyond what's played on the radio

I agree. However, there are some similarities, which I won't delve into.

Still, they are two different decades.

Great way to show why most people hate the 2000s.
The Wikipedia images to resume a decade always look quite unapealing. Look at the 1990s:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/1990s_decade_montage.png

Sorry for reviving an old thread, but also I think that most people consider the 2000s to be full of emo music. It probably had that but in my opinion, it had some non-emo music as well which I think sounded less bland than what we have today (with a few exceptions).

Someone in another thread mentioned how the 2000s/2010s are similar to the 1900s/1910s in that they often get combined into one 'big decade'.

Someone in another thread mentioned how the 2000s/2010s are similar to the 1900s/1910s in that they often get combined into one 'big decade'.


I'll be honest; I don't know the difference, culturally speaking.

I'll be honest; I don't know the difference, culturally speaking.

In the 1900s they used horse-drawn carriages that were bland while in the 1910s the carriages were a little more shiny.  ;D

I'll be honest; I don't know the difference, culturally speaking.

Well, non-World War vs. World War is a pretty big difference from the get-go ???

And fashion-wise, especially on the woman-side the two decades are quite distinct. The 1900s were still extremely Victorian while the 1910s were simpler, moving away from the 19th century and giving an insight on what the 20th century will be about :D

1900s
https://cdn.cliqueinc.com/cache/posts/229384/fashion-by-the-decade-229384-1499966904068-image.700x0c.jpg

1910s
https://www.oldimprints.com/pictures/46683.jpg?v=1408234063

Well, non-World War vs. World War is a pretty big difference from the get-go ???


Sure, but the U.S. didn't get involved in the war till 1917, or arguably even until a year later. It's hard to argue for an impact there when they were barely involved.

And fashion-wise, especially on the woman-side the two decades are quite distinct. The 1900s were still extremely Victorian while the 1910s were simpler, moving away from the 19th century and giving an insight on what the 20th century will be about :D



Does that mean that in the 2020's we will see a return of Flapper Culture? ???

Does that mean that in the 2020's we will see a return of Flapper Culture? ???
We didn't see the return of World War 1 yet, so maybe maybe not? ???

Does that mean that in the 2020's we will see a return of Flapper Culture? ???


Doubt it.

Songs from the '10s and '00s sound pretty different.

I'll be honest; I don't know the difference, culturally speaking.


They are actually very different, a lot changed after the outbreak of World War 1, fashion changed dramatically between 1910 and 1919 alone. The late 1910s was considered in it's own time revolutionary(quite literally!), the Bolshevik revolution happened in 1917 and then race riots and anarchist terrorist hit the US. Many people were very afraid of a similar revolution happening in the US and the Red Scare was a reactionary response to that, along with tighter immigration laws. 

Sure, but that sounds like a lot of the changes in American culture happened between 1910 and 1919, not hearing so much about 1900 to 1909.

Sure, but that sounds like a lot of the changes in American culture happened between 1910 and 1919, not hearing so much about 1900 to 1909.


A lot about the 1900s was 1890s part deux except more quiescent and prosperous.

The 00s and the 10s are pretty different, but I can see some similarities between both of them like the Internet being accessible for the entire span of both decades, Southern Rap being at the forefront, the war on terrorism, Microsoft being the gaming industry, Cellphones being prominent in both decades and Spongebob being on Television.

Spongebob being on Television.

Fair for all the other points, but this one is a very moot one to bring up. Are we gonna lump the 90s, 2000s and 2010s together because the Simpsons aired for the intirety of all three decades?

Makes sense to me. Since both decades are similar....not the same but SIMILAR in music styles and pop culture.