I know whether or not we are in the cultural late 2010's has been discussed to death on this forum, but I wanted to share this because I actually believe we are, at least when it comes to music.

I was on Spotify the other day and I was listening to a playlist that was supposed to be hip-hop songs from 2017. There were some hip-hop songs that I knew and some that I never heard before. However, while I was listening, one song came on that I actually haven't heard before and the more I listened to it, the more I thought "Are you sure this is from 2017?" After a minute I checked when the song was made and apparently it was a song from 2015.

I can't quite put my finger on how exactly I managed to guess it wasn't from 2017, especially when it was the first time I heard that song. I guess the beats sounded a little bit different. The music beats in the late 2010s are a bit more heavy than the songs from the mid-2010's. Here is a hip-hop song that was on the playlist that actually came out in 2017:

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And this was the 2015 song that I heard:
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I even tried to picture the 2017 song coming out in 2015 and I personally believed it would sound out of place if it were released during that time, the same thing with the 2015 song coming out in 2017.

Even with pop music, I can kind of tell the difference.

I personally think songs such as "Shape of you" and "Havana" would sound out of place if they were released in 2015. Meanwhile, I think songs such as "Fancy" and "Love Me Like You Do" would sound a bit out of place in 2018. With pop songs, it's a little bit harder to tell the difference but it's still there, but I can definitely tell the difference between hip-hop songs from the mid-2010's vs. late 2010's (present)


Can you tell the difference between songs from the mid-2010's vs songs from the late 2010's? What songs from the mid-2010's do you think would sound out of place if they were released today? What songs from the late 2010's do you think would sound out of place if they were released in the mid-2010's?

We are in the late 2010s and it's been like that since 2017.

We are in the late 2010s and it's been like that since 2017.

It seemed like 2016 was the transitional year from the mid-2010's sound to the late 2010's sound.

I'm not much of a hip-hop fan, but whatever differences I notice between those two songs seem very subtle to me.

I guess the 2015 song sounds more electronic and autotuned than the 2017 one.  ::)

I'm not much of a hip-hop fan, but whatever differences I notice between those two songs seem very subtle to me.

I guess the 2015 song sounds more electronic and autotuned than the 2017 one.  ::)

Yes, that’s exactly the differences that I noticed. I think the change seems more big to me because I listen to 2010’s hip-hop a lot and like to see which new hip-hop songs are coming out. It wasn’t until I started listening to hip-hop songs made in the mid-2010’s and comparing them to now was when I started noticing a difference. I think we are firmly in the cultural late 2010’s, but a lot of people don’t notice it.

Yes, that’s exactly the differences that I noticed. I think the change seems more big to me because I listen to 2010’s hip-hop a lot and like to see which new hip-hop songs are coming out. It wasn’t until I started listening to hip-hop songs made in the mid-2010’s and comparing them to now was when I started noticing a difference. I think we are firmly in the cultural late 2010’s, but a lot of people don’t notice it.


Same happens to me with EDM. I’ve listened a lot of electronic music in this decade that an early 2010’s song sounds totally different with a late 2010’s. Actually for me “traditional EDM” died in 2017 (or even before) when Martin Garrix and Skrillex faded in popularity, now it’s a different generation of DJs

Everything has blurred together since 2013. The only distinct part of the 2010s is the early 2010s.

Same happens to me with EDM. I’ve listened a lot of electronic music in this decade that an early 2010’s song sounds totally different with a late 2010’s. Actually for me “traditional EDM” died in 2017 (or even before) when Martin Garrix and Skrillex faded in popularity, now it’s a different generation of DJs
Proper EDM fans will tell you that both Scrillex' Dubstep and Garrix' Big Room House were an lazy insult to EDM (which I agree with). Traditional EDM doesn't exist, and the closest would be the garage scene that appeared right after EDM evolved from Disco in the early 80s. And even that is still being produced today.

TBH, I can easily see something Camila Cabello's "Havana" being made in the mid or even early 10s, as it sounds identical to a Selena Gomez song to me.

Proper EDM fans will tell you that both Scrillex' Dubstep and Garrix' Big Room House were an lazy insult to EDM (which I agree with). Traditional EDM doesn't exist, and the closest would be the garage scene that appeared right after EDM evolved from Disco in the early 80s. And even that is still being produced today.


I was talking specifically about 2010’s Electropop scene and “traditional Edm” is just a term that I used for “Mainstream EDM” in the early-mid 10s

I kinda agree. Hip-hop sounds different for sure, but the rest of the genres are still the same tbh. There's been little change since like 2015.
Actually, nvm. Just went and looked at my library in spotify which starts late 2014 and realized how different they sound.

TBH, I can easily see something Camila Cabello's "Havana" being made in the mid or even early 10s, as it sounds identical to a Selena Gomez song to me.
That song sounds literally nothing like Selena

TBH, I can easily see something Camila Cabello's "Havana" being made in the mid or even early 10s, as it sounds identical to a Selena Gomez song to me.

I don't know if I can agree. "Havana" sounds very different from your typical early and mid-2010's sound. That song definitely wouldn't fit in with 2010, which was a time when electropop was at its peak. I think it sounds distinctly late 2010's.

I don't know if I can agree. "Havana" sounds very different from your typical early and mid-2010's sound. That song definitely wouldn't fit in with 2010, which was a time when electropop was at its peak. I think it sounds distinctly late 2010's.

I think he's referring to this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h30Bx4Klxg
It sounds A LOT like Havana.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCjNJDNzw8Y

I think he's referring to this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h30Bx4Klxg
It sounds A LOT like Havana.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCjNJDNzw8Y

The only part that sounds similar is the beginning. Other than that, I really can't hear the comparison.

Everything has blurred together since 2013. The only distinct part of the 2010s is the early 2010s.


I feel the same way, pop songs in the early '10s were more energetic and pumping with the dubstep wobbles. This is a very indistinct decade pop culturally whereas a decade like the 1980s was very distinct, there's been no new music style to become popular at all.

I feel the same way, pop songs in the early '10s were more energetic and pumping with the dubstep wobbles. This is a very indistinct decade pop culturally whereas a decade like the 1980s was very distinct, there's been no new music style to become popular at all.

Is that so? That's news to me http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/0/aec6ed236c4f9495b15f6066ea18fa30.png?t=1452293973.

Everything has blurred together since 2013. The only distinct part of the 2010s is the early 2010s.


I feel the same way, pop songs in the early '10s were more energetic and pumping with the dubstep wobbles. This is a very indistinct decade pop culturally whereas a decade like the 1980s was very distinct, there's been no new music style to become popular at all.

I think I seem to notice the differences more because I pay attention to the pop culture and just the simple fact that this is my kid and teenage decade, so the cultural changes might seem more significant to me.

I feel the same way, pop songs in the early '10s were more energetic and pumping with the dubstep wobbles. This is a very indistinct decade pop culturally whereas a decade like the 1980s was very distinct, there's been no new music style to become popular at all.
What about Trap and Tropical House, both genres are major and influencing right now ???

I think I seem to notice the differences more because I pay attention to the pop culture and just the simple fact that this is my kid and teenage decade, so the cultural changes might seem more significant to me.


It does depend on how much you pay attention to something, you start noticing all the little details others might miss.

I have been listening hip-hop since the early '90s and it seems to have hit a plateau around the mid '00s in terms of style, sound palette, ect. Today the hip-hop zeitgeist is still largely rooted in late '90s/'00s southern rap so there is a very strong continuity between the '00s and the '10s.

What about Trap and Tropical House, both genres are major and influencing right now ???


Trap became popular like 13 years ago, it seems so 2005 to me. That was when all these sub styles of southern rap became very popular like trap, snap rap, chopped and screwed, and(for the west coast)hyphy.

Tropical House is just deep house with some pan flutes added ;D, a well established '90s genre with a little tweak.

Is that so? That's news to me http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/0/aec6ed236c4f9495b15f6066ea18fa30.png?t=1452293973.


Yeah, I can spot a 2010s song from a mile away. The electronic/funky sound gives it away.

I think the most similar decades when it comes to music are the 1990s and 2000s, since rock and rap were popular both decades. You can present me a song from 1996 and tell me it came out in the 2000s and I'd believe you most the time. Can't say the same for 2006 and 2010s with the exception of a few songs.

Yeah, I can spot a 2010s song from a mile away. The electronic/funky sound gives it away.

I think the most similar decades when it comes to music are the 1990s and 2000s, since rock and rap were popular both decades. You can present me a song from 1996 and tell me it came out in the 2000s and I'd believe you most the time. Can't say the same for 2006 and 2010s with the exception of a few songs.

I mostly agree.

Yeah, I can spot a 2010s song from a mile away. The electronic/funky sound gives it away.

I think the most similar decades when it comes to music are the 1990s and 2000s, since rock and rap were popular both decades. You can present me a song from 1996 and tell me it came out in the 2000s and I'd believe you most the time. Can't say the same for 2006 and 2010s with the exception of a few songs.


This is interesting.  For me, I find the 2000s and 2010s to be more similar and view the '90s as a transitional decade.  I also think 1996, 2006, and 2016 all had distinct sounds to them, but 2016 is closer to 2006 than 2006 is to 1996.

This is interesting.  For me, I find the 2000s and 2010s to be more similar and view the '90s as a transitional decade.  I also think 1996, 2006, and 2016 all had distinct sounds to them, but 2016 is closer to 2006 than 2006 is to 1996.

I disagree.

Yeah, I can spot a 2010s song from a mile away. The electronic/funky sound gives it away.

I think the most similar decades when it comes to music are the 1990s and 2000s, since rock and rap were popular both decades. You can present me a song from 1996 and tell me it came out in the 2000s and I'd believe you most the time. Can't say the same for 2006 and 2010s with the exception of a few songs.


So like Bruno Mars ;D, electronic/funky can just as easily apply to any time since the late 70s, not unique to the 2010s, many artists today just copy various elctronic/funky styles from the past. The closest we've come to unique sound over the past 10 years was that brief brostep trend around 2011/2012.

So like Bruno Mars ;D, electronic/funky can just as easily apply to any time since the late 70s, not unique to the 2010s, many artists today just copy various elctronic/funky styles from the past. The closest we've come to unique sound over the past 10 years was that brief brostep trend around 2011/2012.


Maybe it's all been done.  :-\\

It shouldn't even be a debate anymore. We have been in the cultural late 2010s since 2016. And music is one way that you could easily indicate that. If someone thinks the mid '10s are even when Donald Trump became president I don't know what they're smoking.  :o

This is interesting.  For me, I find the 2000s and 2010s to be more similar and view the '90s as a transitional decade.  I also think 1996, 2006, and 2016 all had distinct sounds to them, but 2016 is closer to 2006 than 2006 is to 1996.

I also think the 2000s and 2010s were more similar decades to each other than the 1990s and 2000s.

To me I connect the 1990s, 2000s, and 2010s with each other. I can see the 2000s as the 1990s, but "with some changes to it". Same for the 2010s as being the 2000s, but "with some changes to it".

Although I'd have to be specific. Early 1990s music is moreso related the 80s music. While I more so relate the late 1990s stuff with 2000s music. Same for music found in the late 2000s/early 2010s.

I agree that the 90s and 2000s definitely share much more similarities music-wise, especially the R&B, Nu metal, Glam Rap and just a general use of glossy synths.

One very 2010s thing is the weird vocal samples done by DJ Snake ;D
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That also inspired other producers:
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I hate thoss screwy vocal effects. That's more of a late 2010s thing specifically. That effect started blowing up in 2016 along with EDM effects and it is still popular in pop songs today.

To me I connect the 1990s, 2000s, and 2010s with each other. I can see the 2000s as the 1990s, but "with some changes to it". Same for the 2010s as being the 2000s, but "with some changes to it".

Although I'd have to be specific. Early 1990s music is moreso related the 80s music. While I more so relate the late 1990s stuff with 2000s music. Same for music found in the late 2000s/early 2010s.


I can see this to an extent but my only gripe is that besides video games and television, computer technology had such little bearing on our lives in the 90s compared to the 00s and 10s. I see ( 80s-90s / 00s-10s) more correct than (90s-00s-10s). But maybe you're right. I need a couple of gen xers and up to verify.  :P

I personally think the 2000's have more in common with the 2010's than 90's IMO. However, that doesn't mean the 2000's and 2010's are 100% the same though. In fact, they're very very different.

Don't get me wrong the 2000s were definitely very different from the 2010s. However if I had to pick a pair that were more different, it would have to be the 1990s and 2000s. The internet just changed everything and in the early '90s nobody had it. So overall the 2000s and 1990s are more different.

So like Bruno Mars ;D, electronic/funky can just as easily apply to any time since the late 70s, not unique to the 2010s, many artists today just copy various elctronic/funky styles from the past. The closest we've come to unique sound over the past 10 years was that brief brostep trend around 2011/2012.


You know your my favourite poster and I agree with insights for the most part but I don't think this style of trap that is popular now was popular in 2005 as you said, like I wasn't really a where really of trap in the 00's whereas now it's COMPLETELY UBIQUITOUS in this decade and even has a considerable impact on rap and non rap music and just music in general, even (outsider of the us), even grime music in the UK now has trap influences   

I feel the same way, pop songs in the early '10s were more energetic and pumping with the dubstep wobbles. This is a very indistinct decade pop culturally whereas a decade like the 1980s was very distinct, there's been no new music style to become popular at all.


I know man I really did used to mourn over the death of decade identity a year ago in my mind I was just trapped in was the 90's, and that was the only thing I Would listen to occasionally stuck on stuck on you tube all night even, and obsessed with documentaries and the tech free minimalist lifestyle of the 90's,  but I decided since then to just work on personal growth you have to just keep it moving living in a cool time will always be secondary to making your personal live to have, I will say pop culture was cool from 1997-2006 not very distinct but at least it was good LOL

To me I connect the 1990s, 2000s, and 2010s with each other. I can see the 2000s as the 1990s, but "with some changes to it". Same for the 2010s as being the 2000s, but "with some changes to it".

Although I'd have to be specific. Early 1990s music is moreso related the 80s music. While I more so relate the late 1990s stuff with 2000s music. Same for music found in the late 2000s/early 2010s.


Yeah I think by the mid-90's, it began to slow down a bit. 1995 was 23 years ago. 23 years before 1995, it was 1972. Which 23 year period do you think had the most rapid change in music?

Does anyone else feel like there was a drastic change in how music sounded from 2015 compared to 2016? It's just a one year difference, but I feel like music sounded very different in 2015 compared to just a year later. Maybe I'm exaggerating but a lot of the 2015 songs I can picture coming out in 2014 but not 2016.

Does anyone else feel like there was a drastic change in how music sounded from 2015 compared to 2016? It's just a one year difference, but I feel like music sounded very different in 2015 compared to just a year later. Maybe I'm exaggerating but a lot of the 2015 songs I can picture coming out in 2014 but not 2016.

Yes I do feel that way

Does anyone else feel like there was a drastic change in how music sounded from 2015 compared to 2016? It's just a one year difference, but I feel like music sounded very different in 2015 compared to just a year later. Maybe I'm exaggerating but a lot of the 2015 songs I can picture coming out in 2014 but not 2016.


I think the big change was between 2015-2016, where new artists appeared in the scene and others stopped being popular. 2016 seems more to 2018 than 2014 in music

I think the big change was between 2015-2016, where new artists appeared in the scene and others stopped being popular. 2016 seems more to 2018 than 2014 in music

I definitely agree. I think maybe in the future 2016 will be seen as the transitional year into late 2010's culture.

I definitely agree. I think maybe in the future 2016 will be seen as the transitional year into late 2010's culture.

It is already seen as a transitional year into late 2010s culture.

Does anyone else feel like there was a drastic change in how music sounded from 2015 compared to 2016? It's just a one year difference, but I feel like music sounded very different in 2015 compared to just a year later. Maybe I'm exaggerating but a lot of the 2015 songs I can picture coming out in 2014 but not 2016.


Actually 2015 was the change. 2015 was when trap became mainstream and when the current EDM style started. 2014 and 2015 were quite different apart from the leftover teen pop.

Actually 2015 was the change. 2015 was when trap became mainstream and when the current EDM style started. 2014 and 2015 were quite different apart from the leftover teen pop.

I disagree. 2014 and 2015 were very similar. 2016 was different music wise and started the current EDM we have today. 2016 was transitional

Like I said we have been there in late 2016

Does anyone else feel like there was a drastic change in how music sounded from 2015 compared to 2016? It's just a one year difference, but I feel like music sounded very different in 2015 compared to just a year later. Maybe I'm exaggerating but a lot of the 2015 songs I can picture coming out in 2014 but not 2016.

Eh no, I definitely can see things like Wildest Dreams, The Hills, Cheerleader, and co. being popular in 2016 while absolutely not in 2014 which was the year of really annoying stuff like Talk Dirty, Turn Down for What, Rude, ...

IMO 2015 and 2016 share much more in common than 2014 and 2015 did

I also disagree with 2016 being the big change. The only things that set 2016 apart from 2015 was the bigger focus on Trap rap and the Dancehall craze. Trap-influenced EDM, Moombahton and Tropical House were all popularized in 2015 and are still big nowadays.

Like I said we have been there in late 2016


I agree

Eh no, I definitely can see things like Wildest Dreams, The Hills, Cheerleader, and co. being popular in 2016 while absolutely not in 2014 which was the year of really annoying stuff like Talk Dirty, Turn Down for What, Rude, ...

IMO 2015 and 2016 share much more in common than 2014 and 2015 did

I also disagree with 2016 being the big change. The only things that set 2016 apart from 2015 was the bigger focus on Trap rap and the Dancehall craze. Trap-influenced EDM, Moombahton and Tropical House were all popularized in 2015 and are still big nowadays.

In terms of hip-hop, 2015 had far more in common with 2014 than 2016. In terms of pop music, I could really see it both ways.

Also, I would have to strongly disagree with 2016 not being the change. Not only was 2016 the year music started changing, but let's not forget about the election that happened that year that had a lot of people in shock, and Vine closed in late 2016, arguably one of the most popular mid-2010's apps.

2015 was a lot more like 2014 than 2016.

In terms of hip-hop, 2015 had far more in common with 2014 than 2016. In terms of pop music, I could really see it both ways.

Also, I would have to strongly disagree with 2016 not being the change. Not only was 2016 the year music started changing, but let's not forget about the election that happened that year that had a lot of people in shock, and Vine closed in late 2016, arguably one of the most popular mid-2010's apps.

2015 was a lot more like 2014 than 2016.
2015 was the perfect mid 10s year  becauce it had commonalites of both years early 2015 still had a 2014 vibe while mid-late 2015 was when you start hearing about the election, Trump campagin begun, rumors about the Nintendo NX began and mumble rap was really taking off with Fetty Wapp, the weekend and A town.  2015 was when the 10s really started to peak because it was the halfway point of the decade. 2014 felt like 2013 for the most part because people still had hopes for the Wii-U, the Ps4 was selling well but hardley any exclusives and Pharrell Happy was played everywhere that year. Late 2014 was when Black Lives Matter started and Vine was at it's peak which leans more 2015.

In all honesty, I think 2017 is starting to look more mid-2010s for music as we progress further into 2018. Trap seems to be declining this year after its peak in 2017; the biggest names in the genre have either started to lose popularity – even Migos' Culture II hasn't done all that well – or begun recording hip hop with more of an early 2000s, Timbaland/Neptunes-type of production style, albeit still with modern sensibilities. Trap itself is now more of a minor influence on popular music, in contrast to last year, when it was so dominant that even S Club employed trap snares in their charity single "Family" last December. Its spectre can definitely still be felt in a lot of hits, but proper trap singles like "Bad and Boujee" and "Bodak Yellow" have so far not represented the sound of 2018. Also, 2010s latin pop burned out pretty quickly after its gradual ascent around 2016 and peak in 2017.

What we're seeing more of now is an uptake in sonic diversity, with somewhat experimental songs like the country-pop crossover hits, "Filthy", and "Freaky Friday", as well as real rock making marginal but still noteworthy inroads back into the mainstream through Shawn Mendes' "In My Blood" and Bad Wolves' "Zombie". Ariana Grande's new smash is a huge break from all your cookie cutter EDM from the mid-2010s. In general, it seems like complex rhythmic syncopation and a willingness to take a few risks is starting to become much more prominent in popular music, with cheap Vine/Soundcloud raps starting to finally die off as a fad.

In all honesty, I think 2017 is starting to look more mid-2010s for music as we progress further into 2018. Trap seems to be declining this year after its peak in 2017; the biggest names in the genre have either started to lose popularity – even Migos' Culture II hasn't done all that well – or begun recording hip hop with more of an early 2000s, Timbaland/Neptunes-type of production style, albeit still with modern sensibilities. Trap itself is now more of a minor influence on popular music, in contrast to last year, when it was so dominant that even S Club employed trap snares in their charity single "Family" last December. Its spectre can definitely still be felt in a lot of hits, but proper trap singles like "Bad and Boujee" and "Bodak Yellow" have so far not represented the sound of 2018. Also, 2010s latin pop burned out pretty quickly after its gradual ascent around 2016 and peak in 2017.

What we're seeing more of now is an uptake in sonic diversity, with somewhat experimental songs like the country-pop crossover hits, "Filthy", and "Freaky Friday", as well as real rock making marginal but still noteworthy inroads back into the mainstream through Shawn Mendes' "In My Blood" and Bad Wolves' "Zombie". Ariana Grande's new smash is a huge break from all your cookie cutter EDM from the mid-2010s. In general, it seems like complex rhythmic syncopation and a willingness to take a few risks is starting to become much more prominent in popular music, with cheap Vine/Soundcloud raps starting to finally die off as a fad.


I really hop pop punk comes back,  As far as late 2016 goes that is when rap started over taking pop

In all honesty, I think 2017 is starting to look more mid-2010s for music as we progress further into 2018. Trap seems to be declining this year after its peak in 2017; the biggest names in the genre have either started to lose popularity – even Migos' Culture II hasn't done all that well – or begun recording hip hop with more of an early 2000s, Timbaland/Neptunes-type of production style, albeit still with modern sensibilities. Trap itself is now more of a minor influence on popular music, in contrast to last year, when it was so dominant that even S Club employed trap snares in their charity single "Family" last December. Its spectre can definitely still be felt in a lot of hits, but proper trap singles like "Bad and Boujee" and "Bodak Yellow" have so far not represented the sound of 2018. Also, 2010s latin pop burned out pretty quickly after its gradual ascent around 2016 and peak in 2017.

In general, it seems like complex rhythmic syncopation and a willingness to take a few risks is starting to become much more prominent in popular music, with cheap Vine/Soundcloud raps starting to finally die off as a fad.


Thanks for putting my observations into words. I wasn't sure if I was correct, although I'd like to see examples of "an early 2000s, Timbaland/Neptunes-type of production style, albeit still with modern sensibilities". I really liked the Lemon song but it isn't pulling the same numbers even crappy trap rappers like Lil Xan pull in.

It's really nice to see trap falling out of style. The thing I hate the most about rap is how easily the worst of it can easily rise to the top.

Also, diversification was inevitable but as much as people on the board wants pop punk to return and I want psychedelia to return, rock will probably come back in a super accessible way. I wouldn't be surprised if the 20s were dominated by John Mayer-esque music. That would definitely come out of left field but it wouldn't be too crazy if the next major style of music is a reaction against this decade.

Imma post what I said in my thread here.
I know that 2016 is only a couple of years ago, but I can already hear a bit of a difference in music.
2016:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT2_F-1esPk&list=PLfFhoxFQd5LQ2MHFnsCmYna9SuzXNE_nZ&index=10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foE1mO2yM04&list=PLfFhoxFQd5LQ2MHFnsCmYna9SuzXNE_nZ&index=15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMlcn-_jpWY&index=55&list=PLfFhoxFQd5LQ2MHFnsCmYna9SuzXNE_nZ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOkQ4T5WO9E&index=17&list=PLfFhoxFQd5LQ2MHFnsCmYna9SuzXNE_nZ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GL9JoH4Sws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UprcpdwuwCg&index=21&list=PLfFhoxFQd5LQ2MHFnsCmYna9SuzXNE_nZ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMvIARf_SUU&index=25&list=PLfFhoxFQd5LQ2MHFnsCmYna9SuzXNE_nZ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsbeemdD2rQ&list=PLfFhoxFQd5LQ2MHFnsCmYna9SuzXNE_nZ&index=92
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUVz4nRmxn4&list=PLK250nz2Nd3SYpNAdMyb8PfRJfIPPY1st
2018:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9BwWKXjVaI&list=PL55713C70BA91BD6E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au2n7VVGv_c&index=4&list=PL55713C70BA91BD6E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph54wQG8ynk&list=PL55713C70BA91BD6E&index=15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkeiKbqa02g&list=PL55713C70BA91BD6E&index=16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffxKSjUwKdU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpVfcZ0ZcFM&list=PLFgquLnL59alcyTM2lkWJU34KtfPXQDaX
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR7Ev14vUh8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCXGJQYZ9JA&list=PL2BN1Zd8U_MuEB6pqBwJEGVXy_ez7kULb&index=25
Music 2016 seems more EDM/House influenced, while music in 2018 is more Hip-Hop influenced. Music in 2018 also seems a lot slower than 2016. I feel like 2016 has a lot more in common with 2014/2015 than 2017/2018.
I wonder if this is just the late 2010s or the beginning of the early 2020s ??? ???.

Music 2016 seems more EDM/House influenced, while music in 2018 is more Hip-Hop influenced. Music in 2018 also seems a lot slower than 2016. I feel like 2016 has a lot more in common with 2014/2015 than 2017/2018.
I wonder if this is just the late 2010s or the beginning of the early 2020s ??? ???.


I have noticed that 2018 has slowed down a lot in terms of tempo.  I think 2017 was the real transition year.  At the beginning of 2017, music didn't seem much different compared to 2013.  By the end of 2017 we were fully in the current era.

I don't think we are in 2020s culture yet though.  For the most part, many of the artists currently popular have been popular most of this decade.  We'll know the '20s have arrived once artists like Drake, Nicki Minaj, Taylor Swift, Justin Bieber, Ariana Grande, etc get replaced by new superstars.  So far there isn't really any signs of that happening.

Still don't see in which concivable way 2017 is different from 2016, it was the same continuation of Trap (although even more popular) and EDM of that year, with a temporary resurgence of Latin Pop (as a reaction against Trumpism I guess).

If anything, 2018 so far is much more different to 2017 than 2017 was to 2016.

Still don't see in which concivable way 2017 is different from 2016, it was the same continuation of Trap (although even more popular) and EDM of that year, with a temporary resurgence of Latin Pop (as a reaction against Trumpism I guess).

If anything, 2018 so far is much more different to 2017 than 2017 was to 2016.

We aren't even halfway through 2018 yet though. What changes have you seen that make this year different from 2017?

We aren't even halfway through 2018 yet though. What changes have you seen that make this year different from 2017?
Less dominance of Trap, and a trend among artists of bringing back 90s styles: Bruno Mars with New Jack Swing, Drake with Bounce and Ariana Grande with UK Garage.

Still don't see in which concivable way 2017 is different from 2016, it was the same continuation of Trap (although even more popular) and EDM of that year, with a temporary resurgence of Latin Pop (as a reaction against Trumpism I guess).

If anything, 2018 so far is much more different to 2017 than 2017 was to 2016.

IMO, early 2017 was still very similar to 2016 (obviously). But when summer came and latin pop exploded, music changed a lot.

IMO, early 2017 was still very similar to 2016 (obviously). But when summer came and latin pop exploded, music changed a lot.

Explain

Explain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4fErC9skHE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyaI4-5849w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWw1BcFhk-k&index=5&list=PLw-VjHDlEOgvtnnnqWlTqByAtC7tXBg6D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ0mxQXmLsk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UONnRMuuDps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyHvyGVs42U&list=PLw-VjHDlEOgvtnnnqWlTqByAtC7tXBg6D&index=49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p03TIGqEc8o

Imma post what I said in my thread here.
I know that 2016 is only a couple of years ago, but I can already hear a bit of a difference in music.

In terms of music, especially hip-hop, 2016 had far more in common with 2017 than 2015. I know I can't judge just by using one music genre, but it's definitely something I've noticed as someone who is a big hip-hop fan.

I don't think a lot of people notice the differences between music in 2015 vs. now.

There is definitely a bigger difference than people think. Probably as big as the difference between 2005 vs. 2008. Hip-hop in 2015 was more electronic influenced (I'm not sure if that's the correct way to describe it) Hip-hop in 2018 has more heavy beats. The two examples I gave are already good examples of what I'm talking about.

The reason why most people probably don't notice the difference is that they either don't pay close attention to today's music or/and because 2015 is still very recent to them and things must've felt the same. In the grand scheme of things, 2015 was not that long ago, but the sound of music has definitely changed.

I firmly believe 2016 was a transitional year in terms of politics and music. Hip-hop started to sound different that year and the hip-hop from 2016 sounds a lot more like today than the hip-hop from 2015. This is coming from someone who is a big hip-hop fan and listens to a lot of 2010's hip-hop.

Again, I know I can't fully judge just using one music genre.

I don't think a lot of people notice the differences between music in 2015 vs. now.

There is definitely a bigger difference than people think. Probably as big as the difference between 2005 vs. 2008. Hip-hop in 2015 was more electronic influenced (I'm not sure if that's the correct way to describe it) Hip-hop in 2018 has more heavy beats. The two examples I gave are already good examples of what I'm talking about.

The reason why most people probably don't notice the difference is that they either don't pay close attention to today's music or/and because 2015 is still very recent to them and things must've felt the same. In the grand scheme of things, 2015 was not that long ago, but the sound of music has definitely changed.

I firmly believe 2016 was a transitional year in terms of politics and music. Hip-hop started to sound different that year and the hip-hop from 2016 sounds a lot more like today than the hip-hop from 2015. This is coming from someone who is a big hip-hop fan and listens to a lot of 2010's hip-hop.

Again, I know I can't fully judge just using one music genre.

To be fair, 2018 and 2015 are not THAT different. 2015 and 2012 are a lot more different from each other than 2015 and 2018 despite being the same distance from each other.

In all honesty, I think 2017 is starting to look more mid-2010s for music as we progress further into 2018. Trap seems to be declining this year after its peak in 2017; the biggest names in the genre have either started to lose popularity – even Migos' Culture II hasn't done all that well – or begun recording hip hop with more of an early 2000s, Timbaland/Neptunes-type of production style, albeit still with modern sensibilities. Trap itself is now more of a minor influence on popular music, in contrast to last year, when it was so dominant that even S Club employed trap snares in their charity single "Family" last December. Its spectre can definitely still be felt in a lot of hits, but proper trap singles like "Bad and Boujee" and "Bodak Yellow" have so far not represented the sound of 2018. Also, 2010s latin pop burned out pretty quickly after its gradual ascent around 2016 and peak in 2017.

What we're seeing more of now is an uptake in sonic diversity, with somewhat experimental songs like the country-pop crossover hits, "Filthy", and "Freaky Friday", as well as real rock making marginal but still noteworthy inroads back into the mainstream through Shawn Mendes' "In My Blood" and Bad Wolves' "Zombie". Ariana Grande's new smash is a huge break from all your cookie cutter EDM from the mid-2010s. In general, it seems like complex rhythmic syncopation and a willingness to take a few risks is starting to become much more prominent in popular music, with cheap Vine/Soundcloud raps starting to finally die off as a fad.

Music in 2017 has nothing to do with mid 2010s music, not even close. Very different sounds when you compare 2017 with 2014 and and even 2015.

The change and transition in music was probably more bigger in 2016 than it was in 2013. I'm really only realizing that now.

Music in 2017 has nothing to do with mid 2010s music, not even close. Very different sounds when you compare 2017 with 2014 and and even 2015.

The change and transition in music was probably more bigger in 2016 than it was in 2013. I'm really only realizing that now.

I agree. I personally think 2016 was transitional music-wise from mid-2010's to late 2010's.

2016 was transitional music-wise from mid-2010's to late 2010's.

I agree with that.