As above. since were basically half way through the late 10's (well approx 41-45%,) if you count it from September 2016 that was one and a half years ago as most here do. what do you think of late 10's culture so far and would you say were in the late 10's culturally?

It's still kind of hard to tell because we aren't finished with it yet. If I had to guess I'd say we probably are but to me not much has changed.

Yeah we're in the late 2010s. I think it's okay, I like the technology.

Eh, still feels pretty identical to 2015. This decade has been very consistent.

Eh, still feels pretty identical to 2015. This decade has been very consistent.

I think today is a little bit different from 2015 in some ways. Like for example, Vine was still at its peak back then and we didn't have an awful president. :P

The '8' year is usually the peak of the late part of the decade, especially the Summer and Fall.

Yeah we're in the late 2010s.


What makes it the late 10's though?

* Prime Minister Trudeau
* President Trump
* Brexit
* President Macron
* Global economy on fire
* ISIS largely defeated
* Climate change being taken more seriously after COP21
* #MeToo
* Alt-right being taken more seriously (it got off the ground in 2013 but I don't think most heard of it until 2016)
* Amazon Alexa / Google Home / Apple HomePod
* Internet or Things becoming more common
* Mobile digital payments launched in Canada
* Self checkout lanes in stores I'd never thought I'd see them in (my province steeply raised the minimum wage recently)
* Amazon Prime now has same-day shipping in my city
* Cryptocurrency craze
* Tesla Model 3
* (Canada) Housing bubble
* Fidget spinners
* Bezelless phones with fingerprint scanners/face scanners and no headphone jack
* Nintendo Switch
* Overwatch / PUGB
* Lootboxes
* Stranger Things
* 13 Reasons Why
* Handmaid's Tale
* Star Wars reboot

Now let's see where we're headed.

* Prime Minister Trudeau
* President Trump
* Brexit
* President Macron
* Global economy on fire
* ISIS largely defeated
* Climate change being taken more seriously after COP21
* #MeToo
* Alt-right being taken more seriously (it got off the ground in 2013 but I don't think most heard of it until 2016)
* Amazon Alexa / Google Home / Apple HomePod
* Internet or Things becoming more common
* Mobile digital payments launched in Canada
* Self checkout lanes in stores I'd never thought I'd see them in (my province steeply raised the minimum wage recently)
* Amazon Prime now has same-day shipping in my city
* Cryptocurrency craze
* Tesla Model 3
* (Canada) Housing bubble
* Fidget spinners
* Bezelless phones with fingerprint scanners/face scanners and no headphone jack
* Nintendo Switch
* Overwatch / PUGB
* Lootboxes
* Stranger Things
* 13 Reasons Why
* Handmaid's Tale
* Star Wars reboot

Now let's see where we're headed.


Interesting in the UK self checkout machines have been widespread in major supermarkets since 2009....., politically were getting more conservative of course I agree as shown with Britain leaving the EU and Donald trump I don't think  Augmented reality and virtual reality technology still hasn't found it's feet and there still no signs of artificial intelligence in any real life applicable way, look at  siri for example on iPhone 8 for example is not really the much more useful than on iPhone 5. Signs internet of things is getting more common?

Interesting in the UK self checkout machines have been widespread in major supermarkets since 2009....., politically were getting more conservative of course I agree as shown with Britain leaving the EU and Donald trump I don't think  Augmented reality and virtual reality technology still hasn't found it's feet and there still no signs of artificial intelligence in any real life applicable way, look at  siri for example on iPhone 8 for example is not really the much more useful than on iPhone 5. Signs internet of things is getting more common?


I've seen self-checkouts at supermarkets since 2003/2004 or thereabouts but I'm finding them in places I wouldn't have imagined seeing them any time soon, like small chain restaurants and drug stores/chemist's. They opened up in January 2018 when the minimum wage went up here. Do you guys have self-serve kiosks at your McDonald's there?

Yeah, virtual reality was a short fad it appears (along with hover boards). Samsung stopped bundling the Oculus with their phones like they did with the S7.

Artificial intelligence is definitely becoming more powerful though. It's hard to notice, but things like Google's ads, Amazon's product recommendations, Spotify's recommendations etc. are definitely becoming better and this has an impact on consumer behaviour.

Internet of Things is becoming more common because products like Amazon Echo and Google Home are becoming more common. Those go hand in hand.  I know a lot of people who are buying more of these products.

I've seen self-checkouts at supermarkets since 2003/2004 or thereabouts but I'm finding them in places I wouldn't have imagined seeing them any time soon, like small chain restaurants and drug stores/chemist's. They opened up in January 2018 when the minimum wage went up here. Do you guys have self-serve kiosks at your McDonald's there?


We've had them for years :P. Although, we don't have them in the drug stores.

Yes, I would say that we're culturally in the late 2010s now.

2018 has been a great year so far (besides the Parkland school shooting and others).

We've had them for years :P. Although, we don't have them in the drug stores.


Yeah they were installed in 2015 here at McDonald's, but in seeing them in more and more places. It's kind of cool. Just scan it, tap your phone, and be on your way.

We've had them for years :P. Although, we don't have them in the drug stores.


Here in Australia, we only started to get self-serve kiosks at McDonalds restaurants in 2014.

Yeah they were installed in 2015 here at McDonald's, but in seeing them in more and more places. It's kind of cool. Just scan it, tap your phone, and be on your way.


Except the cashiers always look so bored now ;D

Except the cashiers always look so bored now ;D
Only seem to say "Would you like fries with that?"

Yeah, I say we are too finally. People who stated that we were already in the cultural late 10s several months ago were wrong since it was too early at the time.

Yeah, I say we are too finally. People who stated that we were already in the cultural late 10s several months ago were wrong since it was too early at the time.

I agree.

The LATE 2010s CULTURE SO FAR

* Hallmark becoming a popular Cable network
* Return of Family Sitcoms ( Fuller House, Rosanne)
* Prime Minister Trudeau
* President Trumps run so far
* Brexit
* Return of TRL
* Global economy on fire
* ISIS largely defeated
* Climate change being taken more seriously after COP21
* #MeToo and the #METoo backlash
* Alt-right being taken more seriously
* Amazon Alexa / Google Home / Apple HomePod
* Internet or Things becoming more common
* Mobile digital payments launched in Canada
* Self checkout lanes in stores I'd never thought I'd see them in (my province steeply raised the minimum wage recently)
* Amazon Prime now has same-day shipping in my city
* Cryptocurrency craze
* Tesla Model 3
* (Canada) Housing bubble
* Fidget spinners
* Bezelless phones with fingerprint scanners/face scanners and no headphone jack
* Nintendo Switch
* Overwatch / PUGB
* Lootboxes
* Stranger Things
* 13 Reasons Why
* Handmaid's Tale
* Star Wars Backlash (and brand failing)
* Sling Tv, DirecTvNow, Youtube Tv

2016 to the present.

Yeah, I say we are too finally. People who stated that we were already in the cultural late 10s several months ago were wrong since it was too early at the time.

We have been in the late 2010s since 2016... What are you talking about?

Yes, I would say that we're culturally in the late 2010s now.

2018 has been a great year so far (besides the Parkland school shooting and others).

We have been for a long time... I have no idea what you are talking about. We will soon be over the late 2010s late this year most likely and begin early '20s culture.

Eh, still feels pretty identical to 2015. This decade has been very consistent.

Not identical, but similar. We are still in the core 2010s.

Yeah we are culturally in late 10s but tbh it feels still like 2014-2016 that's why I say the late 10s are an extension of the mid 10s.

Yeah we are culturally in late 10s but tbh it feels still like 2014-2016 that's why I say the late 10s are an extension of the mid 10s.

That's how decades work, lol ;D.

We have been in the late 2010s since 2016... What are you talking about?
OP asked if we were in the cultural late 10s. There's no way the cultural period could have began in 2016.

OP asked if we were in the cultural late 10s. There's no way the cultural period could have began in 2016.

Yes, the cultural period did start in 2016 with Brexit... And new music started music emerging. You are absolutely wrong because late 2010s culture DID start in 2016. We have been in the cultural late 2010s since 2016 and that is very obvious.

Yeah we are culturally in late 10s but tbh it feels still like 2014-2016 that's why I say the late 10s are an extension of the mid 10s.

That's the core 2010s. We've been in the cultural late 2010s since about mid 2016.

Yes, the cultural period did start in 2016 with Brexit... And new music started music emerging. You are absolutely wrong because late 2010s culture DID start in 2016. We have been in the cultural late 2010s since 2016 and that is very obvious.
We're not doing this again, and there was more than just Brexit that had not occurred yet that you're leaving out.

We're not doing this again, and there was more than just Brexit that had not occurred yet that you're leaving out.

Doing what again? Late 2010s culture started in 2016, plain and simple. Brexit, Pokemon Go, new sound of music, new artists popping up, Donald Trump becoming president are all things that started the late 2010s. 2017 was 100% a late 2010s year. 2016 was transition but by the middle of the year, the late 2010s started culturally, end of story. Why on earth do you think the late 2010s started later?  ??? That makes zero sense. 2017 was just like 2016, except for maybe the first half of 2016. 2017 was NOT transitional, 2016 was. I have no idea why you think otherwise as it doesn't make any sense.

Doing what again? Late 2010s culture started in 2016, plain and simple. Brexit, Pokemon Go, the new sound of music, new artists popping up, Donald Trump becoming president are all things that started the late 2010s. 2017 was 100% a late 2010s year. 2016 was a transition but by the middle of the year, the late 2010s started culturally, end of story. Why on earth do you think the late 2010s started later?  ??? That makes zero sense. 2017 was just like 2016, except for maybe the first half of 2016. 2017 was NOT transitional, 2016 was. I have no idea why you think otherwise as it doesn't make any sense.
Arguing. We have done this on too many topics thus ending up derailing the threads. Oh, and lol at Pokemon Go. That fad only lasted 2 months. What a joke. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh again, how do you know we will be in the cultural early 2020s this year? That's way too early and you're getting too far ahead of yourself. Anything can happen between now and 2020.

Doing what again? Late 2010s culture started in 2016, plain and simple. Brexit, Pokemon Go, new sound of music, new artists popping up, Donald Trump becoming president are all things that started the late 2010s. 2017 was 100% a late 2010s year. 2016 was transition but by the middle of the year, the late 2010s started culturally, end of story. Why on earth do you think the late 2010s started later?  ??? That makes zero sense. 2017 was just like 2016, except for maybe the first half of 2016. 2017 was NOT transitional, 2016 was. I have no idea why you think otherwise as it doesn't make any sense.
I agree.

I think today is a little bit different from 2015 in some ways. Like for example, Vine was still at its peak back then and we didn't have an awful president. :P

I'd say 2015 was different music wise.

Oh god, it's that guy again.. ::)

Oh god, it's that guy again.. ::)

What guy? Slim95?

I'd say we have been safely within the cultural Late 2010s since roughly the Spring 2017. Although, I do agree with Slim that the transition from Mid 2010s to Late 2010s began around Summer 2016 with Brexit vote, Trump winning the RNC Nomination, and the popularity of Pokemon GO (the first mainstream AR/VR game with mass popularity). However, I would say that the status quo was still culturally Mid 2010s for much of 2016. Heck even early 2017, looking back seemed more mid than late, but it was clear that we were transitioning out of the mid 2010s.

The LATE 2010s CULTURE SO FAR

* Hallmark becoming a popular Cable network
* Return of Family Sitcoms ( Fuller House, Rosanne)
* Prime Minister Trudeau
* President Trumps run so far
* Brexit
* Return of TRL
* Global economy on fire
* ISIS largely defeated
* Climate change being taken more seriously after COP21
* #MeToo and the #METoo backlash
* Alt-right being taken more seriously
* Amazon Alexa / Google Home / Apple HomePod
* Internet or Things becoming more common
* Mobile digital payments launched in Canada
* Self checkout lanes in stores I'd never thought I'd see them in (my province steeply raised the minimum wage recently)
* Amazon Prime now has same-day shipping in my city
* Cryptocurrency craze
* Tesla Model 3
* (Canada) Housing bubble
* Fidget spinners
* Bezelless phones with fingerprint scanners/face scanners and no headphone jack
* Nintendo Switch
* Overwatch / PUGB
* Lootboxes
* Stranger Things
* 13 Reasons Why
* Handmaid's Tale
* Star Wars Backlash (and brand failing)
* Sling Tv, DirecTvNow, Youtube Tv


You could in fact argue that the alt-right started in the early to mid-1990's, or at least the "seeds" of what was going to end up become the alt-right:

*American Renaissance was founded in November 1990
*Stormfront was founded as a web board in around 1990-1991
*The church burnings in Norway happened in 1992-1993
*Various black metal killings happened in the early to mid 90's
*The now disbanded Heathen Front started in 1993
*League of the South started in 1994
*The precursor to the Nordic Resistance Movement was founded in 1994
*Asatru Folk Assembly I also believe was founded in around 1994

I will probably be attacked by Slim95 for saying this, but I think the second half of 2017 is when things really started to feel different.  Though the seeds of backlash against the liberalism that defined the core of this decade were sown in 2016 with events like Brexit and the election of Donald Trump, during the second half of 2017 we really started to feel some separation from the Obama era.  I think music also changed slightly during the second half of 2017.  At the beginning of 2017, we were still solidly in a mid '10s world when it came to music.

I will probably be attacked by Slim95 for saying this, but I think the second half of 2017 is when things really started to feel different.  Though the seeds of backlash against the liberalism that defined the core of this decade were sown in 2016 with events like Brexit and the election of Donald Trump, during the second half of 2017 we really started to feel some separation from the Obama era.  I think music also changed slightly during the second half of 2017.  At the beginning of 2017, we were still solidly in a mid '10s world when it came to music.

I won't attack you.  ;D But I do believe even by early 2017 musically we were completely out of the mid '10s (no more teen pop) and in general pop culture too. We were however, still in the core 2010s, and I believe we are still in the core 2010s right now (2011 - 2018).

I think the entire late 2010s period will be looked at as a transition to the 2020s in the future. I believe we are out of the mid 2010s, but the fact that we are still in the core 2010s culture proves the late 2010s are a gradual transition to a brand new culture in the 2020s. My original thought was 2018 would be this huge transitional year. Now I believe we will continue to see this gradual change we have seen for a while up until around 2021. 2016 - 2021 may be a unique transitional era from the 2010s decade to the 2020s decade culture.

I won't attack you.  ;D But I do believe even by early 2017 musically we were completely out of the mid '10s (no more teen pop) and in general pop culture too. We were however, still in the core 2010s, and I believe we are still in the core 2010s right now (2011 - 2018).


When do you believe was there a neo-teen pop era?

As I can remember, was it probably from around 2011-2014/15? I remember girls talking about 1D all day in 2012-2013 (the peak of the neo-teen pop age). By 2015, however, when Zayn left 1D, would it be fair enough to say that the trend was dead?

When do you believe was there a neo-teen pop era?

As I can remember, was it probably from around 2011-2014/15? I remember girls talking about 1D all day in 2012-2013 (the peak of the neo-teen pop age). By 2015, however, when Zayn left 1D, would it be fair enough to say that the trend was dead?

I think 2015 was the peak of the teen pop era with Taylor Swift's 1989 album (that year was definitely her peak as well). Then there were some leftovers in 2016 with Ariana Grande and Fifth Harmony (but with a more EDM style sound). It probably started in 2011 but really started taking off in 2013/2014. 2014 could also be considered peak.

When do you believe was there a neo-teen pop era?

As I can remember, was it probably from around 2011-2014/15? I remember girls talking about 1D all day in 2012-2013 (the peak of the neo-teen pop age). By 2015, however, when Zayn left 1D, would it be fair enough to say that the trend was dead?


I would say it peaked during the Ariana Grande era, though it had been slowly building from as far back as 2009 when Justin Bieber came on the scene.  It really picked up in 2012 with 1D and Carly Rae Jepsen.  It ended pretty quickly in early 2017.

I would say it peaked during the Ariana Grande era, though it had been slowly building from as far back as 2009 when Justin Bieber came on the scene.  It really picked up in 2012 with 1D and Carly Rae Jepsen.  It ended pretty quickly in early 2017.

I don't consider Carly Rae "teen pop" at least not anymore. She is more adult pop, especially her later stuff.

I don't consider Carly Rae "teen pop" at least not anymore. She is more adult pop, especially her later stuff.


She was pretty much a one-hit wonder here in the US, unless you count the song she did with Owl City.  Being that she's from Canada she probably was more popular up there.  Call Me Maybe especially was teen pop.  I haven't heard any of her more recent stuff.

I won't attack you.  ;D But I do believe even by early 2017 musically we were completely out of the mid-'10s (no more teen pop) and in general pop culture too. We were, however, still in the core 2010s, and I believe we are still in the core 2010s right now (2011 - 2018).



I think 2015 was the peak of the teen pop era with Taylor Swift's 1989 album (that year was definitely her peak as well). Then there were some leftovers in 2016 with Ariana Grande and Fifth Harmony (but with a more EDM style sound). It probably started in 2011 but really started taking off in 2013/2014. 2014 could also be considered peak.



I would say it peaked during the Ariana Grande era, though it had been slowly building from as far back as 2009 when Justin Bieber came on the scene.  It really picked up in 2012 with 1D and Carly Rae Jepsen.  It ended pretty quickly in early 2017.


I think teen pop was done by 2016. AG's third album to me was more mature than her first two. T-swift's reign with her 1989 album had ended. 1D was nowhere on the charts, especially after Zayn left and Fifth Harmony's popularity declined due to issues in the group and Camila had planned to leave 5H and go solo.

I agree though that 2014-15 were the peak of that genre.

Latin pop is officially a late 2010s thing and not just a 2017 thing. Dura by Daddy Yankee seems to be going viral.

When do you believe was there a neo-teen pop era?

As I can remember, was it probably from around 2011-2014/15? I remember girls talking about 1D all day in 2012-2013 (the peak of the neo-teen pop age). By 2015, however, when Zayn left 1D, would it be fair enough to say that the trend was dead?


I always felt like the early portion of the decade had the most teen pop, and not the mid part. That's when we had Justin Bieber, Jonas Brothers, Big Time Rush, Selena Gomez, One Direction, Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus, Demi Lovato, Victorious, etc. But my sisters were 4-7 back then so maybe I just noticed it more.

Also 1989 isn't teen pop to me, that's just regular pop. Teen pop has to be specifically targeted towards preteens or kids, not just any innocent upbeat song imo.

I always felt like the early portion of the decade had the most teen pop, and not the mid part. That's when we had Justin Bieber, Jonas Brothers, Big Time Rush, Selena Gomez, One Direction, Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus, Demi Lovato, Victorious, etc. But my sisters were 4-7 back then so maybe I just noticed it more.

Also 1989 isn't teen pop to me, that's just regular pop. Teen pop has to be specifically targeted towards preteens or kids, not just any innocent upbeat song imo.

The ones I have in bold are what I really liked as a kid in the early 2010's. I was 8-11 back then.

The ones I have in bold are what I really liked as a kid in the early 2010's. I was 8-11 back then.


Damn I forgot how people close to my sisters' age are on this forum now ;D I was 16-20 then so those bands drove me up the wall lol

There was also that other show. I think it was called Step It Up. The opening theme is a shame bop for me. I think Zendaya was popular for a few years then too

I think teen pop was done by 2016. AG's third album to me was more mature than her first two. T-swift's reign with her 1989 album had ended. 1D was nowhere on the charts, especially after Zayn left and Fifth Harmony's popularity declined due to issues in the group and Camila had planned to leave 5H and go solo.

I agree though that 2014-15 were the peak of that genre.

If you believe teen pop was gone by 2016, then why in the world are you saying the mid '10s lasted through 2017? Isn't that contradictory?  ???

I always felt like the early portion of the decade had the most teen pop, and not the mid part. That's when we had Justin Bieber, Jonas Brothers, Big Time Rush, Selena Gomez, One Direction, Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus, Demi Lovato, Victorious, etc. But my sisters were 4-7 back then so maybe I just noticed it more.

Also 1989 isn't teen pop to me, that's just regular pop. Teen pop has to be specifically targeted towards preteens or kids, not just any innocent upbeat song imo.


Most of those artists except for Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus were popular in the mid '10s as well.  I agree on Taylor Swift's 1989 not being teen pop.  It was extremely generic and "lowest common denominator" material but I wouldn't consider it to be teen pop.

Also 1989 isn't teen pop to me, that's just regular pop. Teen pop has to be specifically targeted towards preteens or kids, not just any innocent upbeat song imo.

Nah Taylor Swift's latest album is regular pop (with an EDM twist). 1989 was targeted more toward teens. Kids and teens loved Taylor Swift then, now not so much.

Most of those artists except for Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus were popular in the mid '10s as well.  I agree on Taylor Swift's 1989 not being teen pop.  It was extremely generic and "lowest common denominator" material but I wouldn't consider it to be teen pop.

What do you consider teen pop then?  ??? There's honestly little difference between 2015 Taylor Swift and Ariana Grande. In fact Taylor Swift had way more innocent lyrics in her songs than Ariana Grande did. If 1989 isn't teen pop, I don't know what is..  :o 1989 was like the 2015 version of Oops I did it again, and we all know Britney Spears was teen pop back then.

What do you consider teen pop then?  ??? There's honestly little difference between 2015 Taylor Swift and Ariana Grande. In fact Taylor Swift had way more innocent lyrics in her songs than Ariana Grande did. If 1989 isn't teen pop, I don't know what is..  :o 1989 was like the 2015 version of Oops I did it again, and we all know Britney Spears was teen pop back then.


You have a good point here.  I think it's borderline.  It might be because I remember Taylor Swift in the late '00s when she was even more bubblegum.  I think 1989-era Taylor Swift had a bit wider appeal.  Ariana Grande's target audience was more narrowly focused.

Most of those artists except for Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus were popular in the mid '10s as well.  I agree on Taylor Swift's 1989 not being teen pop.  It was extremely generic and "lowest common denominator" material but I wouldn't consider it to be teen pop.


I think it lasted into 2014, but by 2015 it was mostly gone. 2012/2013 were its biggest years, but I was already exposed to a lot of it in 2009/2010, so it's a early 2010s/first half of the 2010s thing to me. But then again that might be because my little sisters were in their core childhood in the first half of the '10s.

When it comes to Ariana Grande I don't consider her last album teen pop. Her 2014 album barely qualifies, but her first album and all the singles she had before that are definitely teen pop.


What do you consider teen pop then?  ??? There's honestly little difference between 2015 Taylor Swift and Ariana Grande. In fact Taylor Swift had way more innocent lyrics in her songs than Ariana Grande did. If 1989 isn't teen pop, I don't know what is..  :o 1989 was like the 2015 version of Oops I did it again, and we all know Britney Spears was teen pop back then.


Naw, I know tons of people in their 20s who love Taylor Swift, her 1989 and Red album at least. Those songs were huge during my university years. Definitely not teen pop. Britney Spears was 18/19 back then and it was mostly millennials who bought her stuff. I can't imagine people dancing to Oops I Did It Again at college parties but 22 and Shake It Off are practically the anthems of my early 20s lol.

Latin pop is officially a late 2010s thing and not just a 2017 thing. Dura by Daddy Yankee seems to be going viral.
Oh awesome! :). Now, we'll finally see more variety coming back in the mainstream.


I always felt like the early portion of the decade had the most teen pop and not the mid part. That's when we had Justin Bieber, Jonas Brothers, Big Time Rush, Selena Gomez, One Direction, Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus, Demi Lovato, Victorious, etc. But my sisters were 4-7 back then so maybe I just noticed it more.

Also, 1989 isn't teen pop to me, that's just regular pop. Teen pop has to be specifically targeted towards preteens or kids, not just any innocent upbeat song IMO.
Honestly, you're right that all those artist/bands were considered teen pop during that period, and we could also throw in Sean Kingston, Kristina Debarge, and Jesse McCartney as well; however, they weren't superstars except JB. Electropop was the more dominant genre. Oh, and thank you for reminding me. I forgot that Nick Jonas had a few songs in the mid-10s which I believe he was considered teen pop too. Now, I don't even hear him anymore. 


Damn I forgot how people close to my sisters' age are on this forum now ;D I was 16-20 then so those bands drove me up the wall lol

There was also that other show. I think it was called Step It Up. The opening theme is a shame bop for me. I think Zendaya was popular for a few years then too
You mean Shake It Up? ;). You know, I did watch that show, but it wasn't like I was a huge fun of it. ;D


If you believe teen pop was gone by 2016, then why in the world are you saying the mid-'10s lasted through 2017? Isn't that contradictory?  ???
That's because teen pop was one aspect of the mid-10s and it didn't define the whole timeframe. Everything else from that period was still in force in 2017.

Anything that continued on in 2017 and 2018 is from the general core 2010s, not mid 10s culture, imo. I believe the cultural mid '10s was completely gone by the time Trump became president in late 2016. But it started fading away before that.

Where did the Chainsmokers-clone music go? I don't see any in the top 10 at least. That's really refreshing. I remember early 2017 was still full of that junk.


You mean Shake It Up? ;). You know, I did watch that show, but it wasn't like I was a huge fun of it. ;D


Yes, that's the one!  :-[

The show was annoying, it's just the opening theme that I like ;D

Where did the Chainsmokers-clone music go? I don't see any in the top 10 at least. That's really refreshing. I remember early 2017 was still full of that junk.

Yes, that's the one!  :-[

The show was annoying, it's just the opening theme that I like ;D
Who would you consider to be Chainsmoker clones?

Yeah, I agree. I watched the show from time to time, and it was definitely obnoxious. That show didn't last long though and it's been over for 4 years.

Ever since that fateful day of November 9, 2016 it's felt like the cultural late 2010s. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

Who would you consider to be Chainsmoker clones?

Yeah, I agree. I watched the show from time to time, and it was definitely obnoxious. That show didn't last long though and it's been over for 4 years.


The formula went like

*Slow lyrics that tried to sound deep and thoughtful but weren't*
*Rising pre-chorus*
*Beat drops with EDM, no lyrics or only one line*

Repeat twice or three times.

I will probably be attacked by Slim95 for saying this, but I think the second half of 2017 is when things really started to feel different.  Though the seeds of backlash against the liberalism that defined the core of this decade were sown in 2016 with events like Brexit and the election of Donald Trump, during the second half of 2017 we really started to feel some separation from the Obama era.  I think music also changed slightly during the second half of 2017.  At the beginning of 2017, we were still solidly in a mid '10s world when it came to music.


I agree with this. Even though Trump got elected in 2016, he didn't become president until January 2017. The culture, at least pop culture and trends didn't start to change until about Summer or even Fall of 2017. Songs like "Despacito" and "Shape of You" market the turning point, and sounded different from the typical mid 10's stuff. Overall, mid-2013 to mid-2017 felt the same.

I agree with this. Even though Trump got elected in 2016, he didn't become president until January 2017. The culture, at least pop culture and trends didn't start to change until about Summer or even Fall of 2017. Songs like "Despacito" and "Shape of You" market the turning point, and sounded different from the typical mid 10's stuff. Overall, mid-2013 to mid-2017 felt the same.

Shape of You was exactly like the dancehall music of the 2016 (dancehall was only a trend that stuck in 2016 - early 2017). And by the time Despacito cameo ut, we were well in the the late 2010s.

The formula went like

*Slow lyrics that tried to sound deep and thoughtful but weren't*
*Rising pre-chorus*
*Beat drops with EDM, no lyrics or only one line*

Repeat twice or three times.

They didn't go anywhere I still here pop songs like that it's just there is more latin pop and trap on the radio now but it didn't go away.

They didn't go anywhere I still here pop songs like that it's just there is more latin pop and trap on the radio now but it didn't go away.


I know. I said I didn't hear it on the Top 10 on Spotify at least (and that's as far as I got).

The formula went like

*Slow lyrics that tried to sound deep and thoughtful but weren't*
*Rising pre-chorus*
*Beat drops with EDM, no lyrics or only one line*

Repeat twice or three times.
Are there artists who are associated with this formula?

Are there artists who are associated with this formula?

all pop artists are associated with that formula these days. EDM is everywhere now.

all pop artists are associated with that formula these days. EDM is everywhere now.
I wouldn't say all of them. Ed, Camila, Demi, Selena, Dua, and a few others don't have EDM influences in their songs.

I wouldn't say all of them. Ed, Camila, Demi, Selena, Dua, and a few others don't have EDM influences in their songs.

Every single one of those you listed do have EDM influences... All of them have electronic edm in their songs, especially Selena, Demi, and Dua... Ed Sheeran doesn't on some of his ballad songs, but on Shape of You he does. Camila does too apart from some of her latest songs. Other than that, every single pop artist is EDM influenced... EDM is literally on every corner of mainstream music. It is everywhere.

Every single one of those you listed do have EDM influences... All of them have electronic EDM in their songs, especially Selena, Demi, and Dua... Ed Sheeran doesn't on some of his ballad songs, but on Shape of You he does. Camila does too apart from some of her latest songs. Other than that, every single pop artist is EDM influenced... EDM is literally on every corner of mainstream music. It is everywhere.
I'm aware that EDM is everywhere. I mean, it's one of the musical defining genres throughout this era. I'm just saying that not every one of their songs is EDM influenced.

I wouldn't say all of them. Ed, Camila, Demi, Selena, Dua, and a few others don't have EDM influences in their songs.


Yeah, Slim is right, other than Camila and Dua I think all of the rest have released a Chainsmokers-EDM style song before, particularly Ed (Shape of You) and Selena (her last 5 or so singles). A few others I can think of are Lady Gaga's "The Cure", Katy Perry's "Swish Swish" and "Bon Appétit", Justin Bieber's "Let Me Love You", "Rockabye" by Clean Bandit etc.

Honestly when you've heard one you've heard them all, which is why I was starting to hate it  8-P

Yeah, Slim is right, other than Camila and Dua I think all of the rest have released a Chainsmokers-EDM style song before, particularly Ed (Shape of You) and Selena (her last 5 or so singles). A few others I can think of are Lady Gaga's "The Cure", Katy Perry's "Swish Swish" and "Bon Appétit", Justin Bieber's "Let Me Love You", "Rockabye" by Clean Bandit etc.

Honestly when you've heard one you've heard them all, which is why I was starting to hate it  8-P
Actually, now that I think about it, Selena has released about 5 songs with that style in the last few years. Those being Fetish, Bad Liar, Good for You, and The Heart wants what it wants.

I have admitted though they all have at least made a Chainsmokers-EDM style song; however, that's mostly because that was a popular trend that most of the pop artists decided to hop on the bandwagon.

Yes I’d say we’re completely in late ‘10s culture at this point.

Yes I’d say we’re completely in late ‘10s culture at this point.

I agree.

Mid 2010s and late 2010s culture seems like it's a giant blur to me. Like it all blends in.

Mid 2010s and late 2010s culture seems like it's a giant blur to me. Like it all blends in.

To me they are distinct and seperate, almost as distinct as the mid '10s were compared to the early '10s. But we are still in the overall core 2010s, so that's why things don't feel too different yet.

Mid 2010s and late 2010s culture seems like it's a giant blur to me. Like it all blends in.


You don't say :P

They're right next to each other, of course they blend in! ;D ;)

You don't say :P

They're right next to each other, of course they blend in! ;D ;)


There's far more of a difference between the early 2010s and the mid 2010s than there's a difference between the mid 2010s and late 2010s. All years later than 2012 seem to blur together.

There's far more of a difference between the early 2010s and the mid 2010s than there's a difference between the mid 2010s and late 2010s. All years later than 2012 seem to blur together.


I agree with this.  2013-2016 especially all blur together.  2017 and 2018 are distinctive because of Trump and the backlash against progressivism.

I agree with this.  2013-2016 especially all blur together.  2017 and 2018 are distinctive because of Trump and the backlash against progressivism.

2013 felt like the most unique year in this decade IMO.

There's far more of a difference between the early 2010s and the mid 2010s than there's a difference between the mid 2010s and late 2010s. All years later than 2012 seem to blur together.

I disagree. I believe it is about the same with the early 2010s being only slightly more different than the mid 2010s (2014 and 2015) than the mid and late parts.

There's far more of a difference between the early 2010s and the mid 2010s than there's a difference between the mid 2010s and late 2010s. All years later than 2012 seem to blur together.


I'm not sure I agree with that. The difference between 2018 and 2013 feels just as big if not bigger than the difference between 2013 and 2008 (especially the late part). But oh well, it's only really obvious in retrospect.

I'm not sure I agree with that. The difference between 2018 and 2013 feels just as big if not bigger than the difference between 2013 and 2008 (especially the late part). But oh well, it's only really obvious in retrospect.

What major differences have you noticed between 2013 and 2018?

I'm not sure I agree with that. The difference between 2018 and 2013 feels just as big if not bigger than the difference between 2013 and 2008 (especially the late part). But oh well, it's only really obvious in retrospect.

I definitely agree with this. The differences between late 2013 and 2008 are about as equal difference as between 2018 and late 2013.

What major differences have you noticed between 2013 and 2018?

We can start at the old orange guy sitting in the white house. That's major right there along with changes in music, culture, and politics. You don't notice a difference?  :o

We can start at the old orange guy sitting in the white house. That's major right there along with changes in music, culture, and politics. You don't notice a difference?  :o

It's not that I don't notice a difference, I was just curious as to what differences he noticed and see if they were similar to what I've noticed.
But yeah I agree that the biggest difference is now we got a terrible president. ;D

What major differences have you noticed between 2013 and 2018?


Especially when you compare it to early 2013 (since we're only in early 2018)

- Pre-Netflix Originals and the TV arms race in general
- Pre-music streaming (at least in Canada)
- Pre Uber for most the world, pre-sharing economy in general
- Pre Instagram/Snapchat
- Pre-streaming devices such as Apple TV and Chromecast
--- Extending on that, pre-Google Home/Amazon Echo and devices like that
- Pre PS4/Xbox One/Switch
- Pre-standardized emojis (I still used Japanese kao-mojis back then (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)
- Still a post-recession poor economy in 2013
- Pre-athleisure trend (fashion) although yoga pants were popular.
- Pre Trump
- Pre-Euromaidan and Pre-Brexit
- Pre-ISIS
- Pre-BLM
- Pre-alt right (although you could argue Elliot Rodgers was alt-right)

Some of the major changes.

Especially when you compare it to early 2013 (since we're only in early 2018)

- Pre-Netflix Originals and the TV arms race in general
- Pre-music streaming (at least in Canada)
- Pre Uber for most the world, pre-sharing economy in general
- Pre Instagram/Snapchat
- Pre-streaming devices such as Apple TV and Chromecast
--- Extending on that, pre-Google Home/Amazon Echo and devices like that
- Pre PS4/Xbox One/Switch
- Pre-standardized emojis (I still used Japanese kao-mojis back then (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)
- Still a post-recession poor economy in 2013
- Pre Trump
- Pre-ISIS
- Pre-BLM
- Pre-alt right (although you could argue Elliot Rodgers was alt-right)

Some of the major changes.

Instagram came out in October 2010 and Snapchat came out in September 2011 though.

Instagram came out in October 2010 and Snapchat came out in September 2011 though.


I meant pre them becoming popular.

I meant pre them becoming popular.

Where I'm at, Instagram was already popular in 2013 but it wasn't until late 2013 when a lot of people had Snapchat. This is just based off where I live though so it may be different for some people.

Where I'm at, Instagram was already popular in 2013 but it wasn't until late 2013 when a lot of people had Snapchat. This is just based off where I live though so it may be different for some people.


Yeah you're right, Instagram was popular late 2012 where I'm at and Snapchat in mid-2013. I was comparing it to early 2013.

Really, these differences are only obvious in retrospect. There was definitely no one here in February 2013 talking about how different 2008 was because they'd rightfully look loony. ;D

Especially when you compare it to early 2013 (since we're only in early 2018)

- Pre-Netflix Originals and the TV arms race in general
- Pre-music streaming (at least in Canada)
- Pre Uber for most the world, pre-sharing economy in general
- Pre Instagram/Snapchat
- Pre-streaming devices such as Apple TV and Chromecast
--- Extending on that, pre-Google Home/Amazon Echo and devices like that
- Pre PS4/Xbox One/Switch
- Pre-standardized emojis (I still used Japanese Kao-emojis back then (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)
- Still a post-recession poor economy in 2013
- Pre-athleisure trend (fashion) although yoga pants were popular.
- Pre Trump
- Pre-Euromaidan and Pre-Brexit
- Pre-ISIS
- Pre-BLM
- Pre alt right (although you could argue Elliot Rodgers was alt-right)

Some of the major changes.
Damn! This is an excellent list. I don't know what else to add that wasn't mentioned and a bonus to you for recalling the Japanese emojis. Those were everywhere early 10s. 0_0, -_____-, o_0, -.-. Ahh, good times! ;D

Damn! This is an excellent list. I don't know what else to add that wasn't mentioned and a bonus to you for recalling the Japanese emojis. Those were everywhere early 10s. 0_0, -_____-, o_0, -.-. Ahh, good times! ;D

v_v <_< >_> >_<

Damn! This is an excellent list. I don't know what else to add that wasn't mentioned and a bonus to you for recalling the Japanese emojis. Those were everywhere early 10s. 0_0, -_____-, o_0, -.-. Ahh, good times! ;D


My tweets and Facebook posts from the late 2000s/early 2010s are riddled with those. xD It's hard to read them x_x;;

My tweets and Facebook posts from the late 2000s/early 2010s are riddled with those. xD It's hard to read them x_x;;

I still say "XD" a lot.

I still say "XD" a lot.


True, my texts are still riddled with them and a few others. Can't be bothered to find the perfect emoji when the keyboard is in front of me.

Especially when you compare it to early 2013 (since we're only in early 2018)

- Pre-Netflix Originals and the TV arms race in general
- Pre-music streaming (at least in Canada)
- Pre Uber for most the world, pre-sharing economy in general
- Pre Instagram/Snapchat
- Pre-streaming devices such as Apple TV and Chromecast
--- Extending on that, pre-Google Home/Amazon Echo and devices like that
- Pre PS4/Xbox One/Switch
- Pre-standardized emojis (I still used Japanese kao-mojis back then (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)
- Still a post-recession poor economy in 2013
- Pre-athleisure trend (fashion) although yoga pants were popular.
- Pre Trump
- Pre-Euromaidan and Pre-Brexit
- Pre-ISIS
- Pre-BLM
- Pre-alt right (although you could argue Elliot Rodgers was alt-right)

Some of the major changes.

Where I live the economy was booming and doing amazing in 2013, before it crashed in 2015 and we never got back to pre-2015 levels yet.

True, my texts are still riddled with them and a few others. Can't be bothered to find the perfect emoji when the keyboard is in front of me.

This is exactly how I feel. ;D

Where I live the economy was booming and doing amazing in 2013, before it crashed in 2015 and we never got back to pre-2015 levels yet.


Well, that's one difference between 2013 and 2018 eh  :P

Sorry, terrible joke.  :-[

There was definitely no one here in February 2013 talking about how different 2008 was because they'd rightfully look loony. ;D

I disagree with this. I think it's totally fine to talk about changes even from things that have changed 1-2 years ago. But that's just my opinion.  :P Although to be fair there weren't many changes between 2013 and late 2008, early 2008 however was quite different from 2013 imo.

Also music has changed since 2013 too. The EDM today is completely different from the EDM/electropop from 2013. Now it sounds a lot more futuristic and trap music wasn't as popular then. Movies and TV shows have changed too.

Also music has changed since 2013 too. The EDM today is completely different from the EDM/electropop from 2013. Now it sounds a lot more futuristic and trap music wasn't as popular then. Movies and TV shows have changed too.

I agree. Trap music was growing more in 2014 and was extremely popular by 2015.

I disagree with this. I think it's totally fine to talk about changes even from things that have changed 1-2 years ago.


Oh, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, but it's only clearly obvious now how different those two years are. Back in 2013, people didn't feel that 2008 was all that different.

Oh, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, but it's only clearly obvious now how different those two years are. Back in 2013, people didn't feel that 2008 was all that different.

For me it was different but that's probably because I was 18 in 2013 and 13 in 2008 so the differences were a lot more noticeable to me. I know at that time I thought 2007 was downright dated.

v_v <_< >_> >_<



My tweets and Facebook posts from the late 2000s/early 2010s are riddled with those. xD It's hard to read them x_x;;
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And if you look at old posts with those standard American faces, the emojis have replaced them.

Oh, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, but it's only clearly obvious now how different those two years are. Back in 2013, people didn't feel that 2008 was all that different.

I agree with this. Change is a gradual process so not everyone is immediately going to notice the cultural changes. We don't even know how 2020's culture will be like so we have no idea if this year has brought us early 2020's influences already or not.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And if you look at old posts with those standard American faces, the emojis have replaced them.

I hardly use emojis. If I want to have the other person know I'm laughing, I won't always put a laughing emoji, I'll just say "XD" a lot.

With the exception of inthe00s ;D ;D

I agree with this. Change is a gradual process so not everyone is immediately going to notice the cultural changes. We don't even know how 2020's culture will be like so we have no idea if this year has brought us early 2020's influences already or not.

You can tell if you observe the changes that occur during the year.

I hardly use emojis. If I want to have the other person know I'm laughing, I won't always put a laughing emoji, I'll just say "XD" a lot.

With the exception of inthe00s ;D ;D
I use emojis, but I also still use LOL, LMAO/LMFAO, and HA HA!

I use emojis, but I also still use LOL, LMAO/LMFAO, and HA HA!

I say "lmao" a lot. I just really like it. ;D

I say "lmao" a lot. I just really like it. ;D
You know when I first saw that word. I thought it was pronounced La mayo ;D.

You know when I first saw that word. I thought it was La mayo ;D.

Haha la mayo!

Haha la mayo!
and El mayo! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I honestly think the music of the late 2010s is drastically different from the mid 2010s and it seems like I'm the only person who notices that on here. The music now is really different from 2015. The difference in the sound of music from mid 2010s to late 2010s is exactly the same amount of difference from the sound of music from early 2010s to the mid 2010s. Pop songs are no longer generic electronic they now have EDM effects all throughout and repetitive vocal effects as hooks that are trance-like. It's like pop music went on steroids in 2016. It's super "heavy" now compared to 2015 and before. There are a lot less indie/hipster songs as well. Mumble rap is new too. But the main difference is in the style of pop EDM music that is very popular now but wasn't in the mid 2010s. It's no longer basic electronic teen pop like it was in the mid 2010s.

Just compare the top 20 from 2015 to the top 20 in 2017. It's like 2017 has a lot more futuristic and newer sounding songs and the difference is quite noticeable. It is quite different which also made 2016 quite the transitional year. Even the music videos look different, a lot more dark in 2017.The mid 2010s are long gone:

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(only exception is 2015 was the songs by Justin Bieber/Skrillex and DJ Snake and some others which all partly started the new trend in music of the second half of the 2010s)

I honestly think the music of the late 2010s is drastically different from the mid 2010s and it seems like I'm the only person who notices that on here. The music now is really different from 2015. The difference in the sound of music from mid 2010s to late 2010s is exactly the same amount of difference from the sound of music from early 2010s to the mid 2010s. Pop songs are no longer generic electronic they now have EDM effects all throughout and repetitive vocal effects as hooks that are trance-like. It's like pop music went on steroids in 2016. It's super "heavy" now compared to 2015 and before. There are a lot less indie/hipster songs as well. Mumble rap is new too. But the main difference is in the style of pop EDM music that is very popular now but wasn't in the mid 2010s. It's no longer basic electronic teen pop like it was in the mid 2010s.

Just compare the top 20 from 2015 to the top 20 in 2017. It's like 2017 has a lot more futuristic and newer sounding songs and the difference is quite noticeable. It is quite different which also made 2016 quite the transitional year. Even the music videos look different, a lot more dark in 2017.The mid 2010s are long gone:

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(only exception is 2015 was the songs by Justin Bieber/Skrillex and DJ Snake and some others which all partly started the new trend in music of the second half of the 2010s)


I know this style of music you are referring to however I won't say 2015 is entirely different from now as this is where this trend started with some of the songs you referred to, this increased in 2016 and during 2017/8 it seems as though all pop/EDM songs follow the exact same formula and it's really boring and repetitive. However 2014 I agree with being quite different to today in terms of music.

Not identical, but similar. We are still in the core 2010s.


In some ways it still feels the same as 2010 with only a few minor changes, it doesn't feel as different as 2008 was from 2000, or even more so 1998 from 1990.

I think the late 2010s, not the early '10s, will be remembered as the most distinct part of the decade.  It will be similar to how the Carter '70s is genuinely thought of as a distinct era compared to most of the decade.

There are differences in the music, but the bigger difference is the politics and the general social attitude.  We are currently experience a full-fledged backlash against the liberalism of the Obama era.  Society as a whole is as conservative now as it has been since probably the 1980s.  Would anybody back in 2013 thought it possible that racism, homophobia, and Christian fundamentalism would have been the "in" thing in 2018 and the "liberal" would be akin to a slur? We have also seen a strong sheesh towards a more authoritarian and conformist society.  Has anybody ever seen a time when criticizing the President was more taboo?  I think it would have been more acceptable to criticize Bush after 9/11 than Trump today.  Gone are the days of "peak hipster" where individualism was valued.  Gone are the days where intellectualism was a virtue.  Today, everyone must conform to societal norms and ignorance is a virtue.

In some ways it still feels the same as 2010 with only a few minor changes, it doesn't feel as different as 2008 was from 2000, or even more so 1998 from 1990.

Yeah I agree. This decade was very consistent since the start. Sort of like the 1980s. I don't know but I believe the difference is similar to 1988 vs 1980, maybe even more similar to that.

I think the late 2010s, not the early '10s, will be remembered as the most distinct part of the decade.  It will be similar to how the Carter '70s is genuinely thought of as a distinct era compared to most of the decade.

There are differences in the music, but the bigger difference is the politics and the general social attitude.  We are currently experience a full-fledged backlash against the liberalism of the Obama era.  Society as a whole is as conservative now as it has been since probably the 1980s.  Would anybody back in 2013 thought it possible that racism, homophobia, and Christian fundamentalism would have been the "in" thing in 2018 and the "liberal" would be akin to a slur? We have also seen a strong sheesh towards a more authoritarian and conformist society.  Has anybody ever seen a time when criticizing the President was more taboo?  I think it would have been more acceptable to criticize Bush after 9/11 than Trump today.  Gone are the days of "peak hipster" where individualism was valued.  Gone are the days where intellectualism was a virtue.  Today, everyone must conform to societal norms and ignorance is a virtue.

No way the early 2010s were way more definitive. You of all people should know that considering how much you love the early 2010s.

Also there is no liberal backlash and conservatism isn't the in thing. The only difference now is there is a lot more division and some of the extremists are more apperent and voicing their opinions. It's just more tense. But there's no way conservatism in general will replace liberalism ever at this point, maybe some aspects here and there but not in general.

Yeah I agree. This decade was very consistent since the start. Sort of like the 1980s. I don't know but I believe the difference is similar to 1988 vs 1980, maybe even more similar to that.


That's probably accurate.  1980 was distinctly '80s yet still had a lot of '70s vibes left over.  It was much more evident in television than it was in music.

No way the early 2010s were way more definitive. You of all people should know that considering how much you love the early 2010s.


I didn't say definitive, I said distinct.  2017 onward has a distinct feel to it than the rest of the decade.  Pop culturally the mid 2010s had more in common with the early '10s than they do today.

My personal life is a different story and that is the biggest reason why I despise the mid '10s.  They weren't that bad pop culturally.

I didn't say definitive, I said distinct.  2017 onward has a distinct feel to it than the rest of the decade.  Pop culturally the mid 2010s had more in common with the early '10s than they do today.

My personal life is a different story and that is the biggest reason why I despise the mid '10s.  They weren't that bad pop culturally.

I agree. 2015 is already feeling a little bit distant pop culturally.

I agree. 2015 is already feeling a little bit distant pop culturally.

Let's not get crazy here http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/whoa.png.

I didn't say definitive, I said distinct.  2017 onward has a distinct feel to it than the rest of the decade.  Pop culturally the mid 2010s had more in common with the early '10s than they do today.

My personal life is a different story and that is the biggest reason why I despise the mid '10s.  They weren't that bad pop culturally.

Oh well I think there are still some similarities, this decade was very consistent. But yes I do agree the mid 2010s and early 2010s have a little more in common than the late 2010s especially politically.

I agree. 2015 is already feeling a little bit distant pop culturally.

Definitely. 2015 is quite distant pop culturally now, especially the early part.

Let's not get crazy here http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/whoa.png.

It is distant now. Your snarky responses are getting old man.

It is distant now. Your snarky responses are getting old man.

Snarky? Please, you think that you can say your opinion all the time without anyone challenging...you're the snarky one.

Also, like I said in the other thread. DON'T RESPOND TO ME IF YOU'RE SO UPSEThttp://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/6/919c0a8edaa80332f075830a37b31596.png?t=1490325770.

King T'Shalla

We live in the post-Fidget Spinner era so we're definitely in the late-2010s culturally

https://media1.tenor.com/images/f7f5d3f873c3c2d26aabd6979bc0ac21/tenor.gif?itemid=8724670

Snarky? Please, you think that you can say your opinion all the time without anyone challenging...you're the snarky one.

Also, like I said in the other thread. DON'T RESPOND TO ME IF YOU'RE SO UPSEThttp://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/6/919c0a8edaa80332f075830a37b31596.png?t=1490325770.

King T'Shalla

Opinions are different from snark, nice try though. Of course I can express my opinions without anyone challenging it, because they are opinons obviously what is so hard to understand? Anyone can do that and you have to learn to accept it, simple as that.

Yeah they were installed in 2015 here at McDonald's, but in seeing them in more and more places. It's kind of cool. Just scan it, tap your phone, and be on your way.


Dockless bike share where you use an app to unlock a bike and can park it anywhere when you're done. The app also has a map showing where all of the available bikes are parked.

Dockless bike share where you use an app to unlock a bike and can park it anywhere when you're done. The app also has a map showing where all of the available bikes are parked.


I'm really excited for that. It's everywhere in China. They tried the MoBike experiment in Manchester, England but I heard it didn't go so well. Hopefully they try again with better security features.

Definitely. 2015 is quite distant pop culturally now, especially the early part.


Less EDM now, but more garbage rap & hip hop. Throw in the occasional latin mix and retro 80s/90s sound.  Let's face it -- most of the Billboard Hot 100 is filled with soulless trash. Pop country & adult contemporary are equally tired and bland.

There are a lot more tolerable hits played on the radio nowadays than a few years back at the very least. Especially the 2012-2014 period was just constant earrape 8-P

I'm really excited for that. It's everywhere in China. They tried the MoBike experiment in Manchester, England but I heard it didn't go so well. Hopefully they try again with better security features.


They're so convenient. Dallas, TX is flooded with nearly 20,000 of them! I think Seattle and San Fran are the other major cities that have them.

There are a lot more tolerable hits played on the radio nowadays than a few years back at the very least. Especially the 2012-2014 period was just constant earrape 8-P

I agree with you. For me, that was the worst musical period of this decade.

I agree with you. For me, that was the worst musical period of this decade.


It wasn't great by any means, but it's marginally more tolerable than now. At the very least, you can drink and party to 2013 better than now.

April 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9zoOW-Y10A

March 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtw99Hp5jvc

Either way, I don't see the 2010s being remembered for pop music other than being soulless and mass produced (welcome to iWorld). You can argue that's how pop music has been since the 80s, which is true. But it has really accelerated now. The biggest change in pop music predated the 10's (late 00's).

Drink and party better to it? That top 10 alone is completely made of ballads, besides Feel This Moment (which is a terrible terrible song butchering a 80s classic by the way). And shortly after that week one of the worst hits of the decade, Blurred Lines, started its domination.

That top 10 in 2018 is fairly nice, All the Stars, Pray for Me and Havana are probably better than any hit in 2013. I'm even starting to warm up to God's Plan.

Drink and party better to it? That top 10 alone is completely made of ballads, besides Feel This Moment (which is a terrible terrible song butchering a 80s classic by the way). And shortly after that week one of the worst hits of the decade, Blurred Lines, started its domination.

That top 10 in 2018 is fairly nice, All the Stars, Pray for Me and Havana are probably better than any hit in 2013. I'm even starting to warm up to God's Plan.


I'm listening to God's Plan right now. Is this really topping Billboard right now?  8-P

They're so convenient. Dallas, TX is flooded with nearly 20,000 of them! I think Seattle and San Fran are the other major cities that have them.


Woah, I didn't know they were available in the West. You're so lucky! I hope it takes off, I could really use them.

I'm listening to God's Plan right now. Is this really topping Billboard right now?  8-P


I don't get why people don't like it.  When it comes to rap, it's one the least offensive sound around and it has a good message.

I don't get why people don't like it.  When it comes to rap, it's one the least offensive sound around and it has a good message.


But it's so dull.

To each their own, I guess.

There are a lot more tolerable hits played on the radio nowadays than a few years back at the very least. Especially the 2012-2014 period was just constant earrape 8-P

2012, yes. But 2013 - 2015 was when music was at its best this decade.

But it's so dull.

To each their own, I guess.


I concede that Drake has a very monotone nasal-y voice. I'm used to hearing it at this point ;D

2012, yes. But 2013 - 2015 was when music was at its best this decade.
2015 was a nice breath of fresh air and I can get behind some 2013 hits, but certainly not 2014. The amount of vomit-inducing songs that were huge back then was just too much (Fancy, Rude, Wiggle, Animals, Anaconda, ...). Especially when Shake It Off and All About That Bass were both huge at the same time was simply apocalyptic.

That year was one cruddy, cruddy year for pop music.

2015 was a nice breath of fresh air and I can get behind some 2013 hits, but certainly not 2014. The amount of vomit-inducing songs that were huge back then was just too much (Fancy, Rude, Wiggle, Animals, Anaconda, ...). Especially when Shake It Off and All About That Bass were both huge at the same time was simply apocalyptic.

That year was one cruddy, cruddy year for pop music.

I've listened to songs released in 2018 so far and I honestly have mixed feelings. I found some songs that I really think are good. Migos Culture II album is just absolute fire as well as Drake's God's Plan song. But other songs, like Justin Timberlake's awful song "Filthy" and "All The Stars" by Kendrick Lamar, just aren't my taste.

I concede that Drake has a very monotone nasal-y voice. I'm used to hearing it at this point ;D

Yeah but it doesn't sound monotone when he tries :D


2015 was a nice breath of fresh air and I can get behind some 2013 hits, but certainly not 2014. The amount of vomit-inducing songs that were huge back then was just too much (Fancy, Rude, Wiggle, Animals, Anaconda, ...). Especially when Shake It Off and All About That Bass were both huge at the same time was simply apocalyptic.

That year was one cruddy, cruddy year for pop music.

I agree. I think music began to pick up around 2015 but that may be because I'm a fan of tropical house.

The 2010s is basically a more advanced version of the '90s but also a lot of the problems that we ignored or were unaware of in the '90s have manifested in this decade :P.

Early '90s parallels the early '10s
Mid '90s parallels the mid '10s
Late '90s parallels the late '10s so far

Delete your account.

EXACTLY!

"All The Stars" by Kendrick Lamar, just aren't my taste.

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Yeah but it doesn't sound monotone when he tries :D


I love all his songs either way :D

I love the Toronto references in the song  8)

I love all his songs either way :D

FACTS!

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Delete your account.

Delete your post.

I don't get why people don't like it.  When it comes to rap, it's one the least offensive sound around and it has a good message.
Maybe because people have heard that song over 20 t0 30 times in the last 2 months. It's practically the next Shape of You.


2015 was a nice breath of fresh air and I can get behind some 2013 hits, but certainly not 2014. The amount of vomit-inducing songs that were huge back then was just too much (Fancy, Rude, Wiggle, Animals, Anaconda, ...). Especially when Shake It Off and All About That Bass were both huge at the same time was simply apocalyptic.

That year was one cruddy, cruddy year for pop music.
Agreed! That year was the worst for this era's music, but there are some songs I like though. As for 2013, I agree with Slim that year was awesome for music especially the variety. I can understand the hate for blurred lines, but there was so much than just that song.


Delete your account.



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Yeah! What is she sipping on? That song is banging! 8)


I love all his songs either way :D

I love the Toronto references in the song  8)
Hasn't he always sounded like that since Best I've ever had?

Maybe because people have heard that song over 20 t0 30 times in the last 2 months. It's practically the next Shape of You.


He said he just heard it for the first time.

He said he just heard it for the first time.
Oh. I must have missed that part when he made that post. I do agree with him though it does sound dull in a way. The music is fantastic; however, the flow and the lyrics get lost to me and I've listened to it over 30 times already.

But other songs, like Justin Timberlake's awful song "Filthy"

Reported.

I'm listening to God's Plan right now. Is this really topping Billboard right now?  8-P


I know right. Drake's worst chart-topping song. Just thinking about trap dying gets me high.

Wow, I didn't know I had to like the same exact songs you guys do. I'll make sure to listen to them on repeat so that way I'll fit in with the inthe00s community and I won't need to delete my account anymore. ::)

2015 was a nice breath of fresh air and I can get behind some 2013 hits, but certainly not 2014. The amount of vomit-inducing songs that were huge back then was just too much (Fancy, Rude, Wiggle, Animals, Anaconda, ...). Especially when Shake It Off and All About That Bass were both huge at the same time was simply apocalyptic.

That year was one cruddy, cruddy year for pop music.

2014 had some bad hits but some really good ones too like "Rather Be" and those songs by Sam Smith. And the music seemed upbeat too. Uptown Funk (best popular song of the decade imo) technically got released in 2014 but got popular in 2015.

Wow, I didn't know I had to like the same exact songs you guys do. I'll make sure to listen to them on repeat so that way I'll fit in with the inthe00s community and I won't need to delete my account anymore. ::)

Haha I was joking but I love Filthy. But I agree All the Stars is just average for me.

Reported.


As a secret mod I've looked over the statement you reported and to the best of my abilities I've failed to discover any lies. Carry on.

The 2010s is basically a more advanced version of the '90s but also a lot of the problems that we ignored or were unaware of in the '90s have manifested in this decade :P.

Early '90s parallels the early '10s
Mid '90s parallels the mid '10s
Late '90s parallels the late '10s so far


Just...no. That's my argument.  :P

Rainbowz signed off 4 minutes after she wrote her sarcastic comment. I think she is mad.

Just...no. That's my argument.  :P

Try again http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/6/919c0a8edaa80332f075830a37b31596.png?t=1490325770.

The 2010s is basically a more advanced version of the '90s but also a lot of the problems that we ignored or were unaware of in the '90s have manifested in this decade :P.

Early '90s parallels the early '10s
Mid '90s parallels the mid '10s
Late '90s parallels the late '10s so far


I don't necessarily agree. There wasn't a major cultural/political/economic shift between 2010-2013 like there was between 1990-1993. The year 1992 was definitive in that the economy sucked, the Cold War officially ended, Grunge/gangsta rap were on the rise, and Bill Clinton was elected (a referendum on the Reagan/Bush years). You can say that 1992 represented the complete transition from the cultural 80s to the cultural 90s. I would argue that 2008 was more like that divide, but even then, electropop wasn't quite as influential as the rise of Grunge & gangsta rap. The latter reflected a whole new attitude, a societal backlash. What did electropop represent?

I'd argue that musically the 2010's is living in a tuned out, fantasy land. Not a single major song or musical movement is capturing any of today's social and political issues. It is unlike the late 60s, 70s, or early/mid 90s. Technology, however, is used as today's expression of the issues. Not music, unfortunately.

I don't necessarily agree. There wasn't a major cultural/political/economic shift between 2010-2013 like there was between 1990-1993. The year 1992 was definitive in that the economy sucked, the Cold War officially ended, Grunge/gangsta rap were on the rise, and Bill Clinton was elected (a referendum on the Reagan/Bush years). You can say that 1992 represented the complete transition from the cultural 80s to the cultural 90s. I would argue that 2008 was more like that divide, but even then, electropop wasn't quite as influential as the rise of Grunge & gangsta rap. The latter reflected a whole new attitude, a societal backlash. What did electropop represent?

1. My post wasn't 100% serious.
2. You overanalyzed the heck out of my post.

Congratulations! ;D

1. My post wasn't 100% serious.
2. You overanalyzed my the heck out of my post.

Congratulations! ;D


;D ;D ;D

I'll give you the late 90's / late 10's though. Columbine=Parkland, Monica Lewinsky=Stormy Daniels, Dotcom obsessed=app obsessed, Latin Pop, cheesy rap & hip hop.

I don't necessarily agree. There wasn't a major cultural/political/economic shift between 2010-2013 like there was between 1990-1993. The year 1992 was definitive in that the economy sucked, the Cold War officially ended, Grunge/gangsta rap were on the rise, and Bill Clinton was elected (a referendum on the Reagan/Bush years). You can say that 1992 represented the complete transition from the cultural 80s to the cultural 90s. I would argue that 2008 was more like that divide, but even then, electropop wasn't quite as influential as the rise of Grunge & gangsta rap. The latter reflected a whole new attitude, a societal backlash. What did electropop represent?

I'd argue that musically the 2010's is living in a tuned out, fantasy land. Not a single major song or musical movement is capturing any of today's social and political issues. It is unlike the late 60s, 70s, or early/mid 90s. Technology, however, is used as today's expression of the issues. Not music, unfortunately.


There were also a lot of racial tensions in the early 90's (Rodney King, LA Rioting, etc).

Yeah the 2010s mirrored the 90s in many ways. Alt Hip Hop/R&B scene replaced the Alt Rock scene, Disney having another renaissance... Even though politically and economically this decade's way more to the 70s. And at the end of the day it still is its own decade too :)

1. My post wasn't 100% serious.
2. You overanalyzed the heck out of my post.

Congratulations! ;D


I'm glad I didn't try to debate a stupid post.

I'm glad I didn't try to debate a stupid post.

Well...OK then http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/picard.png.

There were also a lot of racial tensions in the early 90's (Rodney King, LA Rioting, etc).

As opposed to now? ???

As opposed to now? ???

While we have racial tensions which have quieted down significantly since the 2016 Election, the early 1990s were a terrible time for race relations. My dad lived through them. Especially the Rodney King Riots really almost permanently damaged race relations in America, as well as the O.J Simpson Case. None of the demonstrations, even in Ferguson in 2014, have even come close to the magnitude of the 1992 LA Riots. One of the main reasons why Bush lost the election was because of his lackluster reaction to the 1992 Riots.

Well...OK then http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/picard.png.


Sorry. I'm being a total bia bia.

While we have racial tensions which have quieted down significantly since the 2016 Election, the early 1990s were a terrible time for race relations. My dad lived through them. Especially the Rodney King Riots really almost permanently damaged race relations in America, as well as the O.J Simpson Case. None of the demonstrations, even in Ferguson in 2014, have even come close to the magnitude of the 1992 LA Riots. One of the main reasons why Bush lost the election was because of his lackluster reaction to the 1992 Riots.

Ferguson definitely almost permantely destroyed race relations in the U.S. as well. Also, racial relations was a HUGE factor in the 2016 elections.

Ferguson definitely almost permantely destroyed race relations in the U.S. as well. Also, racial relations was a HUGE factor in the 2016 elections.

I dont think Feguson was as bad as LA Riots in its impacts, not even close.

I dont think Feguson was as bad as LA Riots in its impacts, not even close.

I didn't say that it was as impactful as the LA Riots but it still was VERY impactful.

;D ;D ;D

I'll give you the late 90's / late 10's though. Columbine=Parkland, Monica Lewinsky=Stormy Daniels, Dotcom obsessed=app obsessed, Latin Pop, cheesy rap & hip hop.


I do think the late '90s were much more liberal than the late '10s though.  This is probably the most conservative era since the 1980s if not the 1950s.  I'm so over it.

I do think the late '90s were much more liberal than the late '10s though.  This is probably the most conservative era since the 1980s if not the 1950s.  I'm so over it.


I would agree with 1980's, but definitely not 1950's.

If now were more conservative/right-wing than the 1950's:

*There'd be a lot of Volkisch paganism (Heathens who obsess over Jews, race, etc - examples include the people involved in Odinia International and Heathen Women) advocacy and church burnings going on right now. I also have a feeling that Christianity will have a steep decline and Germanic (Volkisch) paganism will drastically increase in its number of adherents (there are actually some alt-righters who believe that Christianity is a Jewish plot to "accelerate white genocide" and that whites should go back to their Heathen roots "to set them free"). I sincerely doubt that Volkisch Heathens actually follow the religion of the Northern Europeans before Christianity. I'm certain that there religion actually is the Northern Europeans before Christianity.

*Identitarian groups (Patriot Front, Identity Evropa, etc) would have hundreds of thousands or maybe even millions of members rather than just a few hundred (most identitarian groups don't even have one thousand members)

*The most popular channels on YouTube will be people that produce nutbar content like Red Ice Radio (Henrik Palmgren) and American Renaissance (Jared Taylor), and most people will be talking about them.

*Most people would be pro-abortion, actually, especially when interracial marriage comes to their mind. However, these same people may also be pro-life, in the sense that they want as many children as possible (this is basically Handmaid's Tale content right here - and there are MANY alt-righters who think like this or have similar ideas as this: Richard Spencer, Jared Taylor, Ayla Stewart, Lana Lokteff, various guests on Red Ice Radio, Varg Vikernes, Tara McCarthy, Matt Heimbach, etc)

*We might actually admire ISIS for some ideas rather than combat them (William Luther Pierce actually admired Al Qaeda, another terrorist group. I also believe that Andrew Anglin admires the idea of "white sharia").

*Stormfront and VNN would be very popular and liked websites.

*Guys who are conservative and do not really seem to have any alt-right tendencies, such as Steven Crowder, Mark Levin, and Rush Limbaugh, will be considered "cucks" or "leftists".

*Black metal (I'm not talking about guys like Fenriz and Abbath - I'm talking about Varg Vikernes, Hendrik Mobus, Famine, and others with a similar mentality) will probably be a lot more popular than trap, EDM, pop, etc. Fenriz would be equivalent to a typical American centrist. Not sure about Abbath though. Varg, Mobus, and Famine, on the other hand, are all neo-Nazis.

*Richard Spencer will be welcomed with open arms in every university, and will have crowds that will fill the entire room rather than a crowd of only ten people (that most likely are against him)

I don't see us heading for this direction at all.

I do think the late '90s were much more liberal than the late '10s though.  This is probably the most conservative era since the 1980s if not the 1950s.  I'm so over it.

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I can't quite put my finger on it, but I can kind of tell the difference between hip-hop made in the mid-2010's and hip-hop made in the late 2010's. The following hip-hop songs are examples of hip-hop songs from the mid-2010's that I think would sound a bit out of place today.

6vYnas6q3Sg
p2cQSPRTdhg
nsiN0W15w0U
SYbh6ob_R9M
JXRN_LkCa_o

Now here are hip-hop songs from the late 2010's that I think would sound out of place in the mid-2010's:
PEGccV-NOm8
WrsFXgQk5UI
oCveByMXd_0
bmc890o0yYY
RHUxyXZBXY8

Mainstream Hip Hop went from super poppy and dancey in the early 2010s to super gritty and airy in the late 2010s. Those mid 2010s hits clearly show the awkward transition between the two ;D

Mainstream Hip Hop went from super poppy and dancey in the early 2010s to super gritty and airy in the late 2010s. Those mid 2010s hits clearly show the awkward transition between the two ;D

I agree. It makes me think we are already in the cultural late 2010's when it comes to that music genre, we just don't realize it and it's especially hard to pinpoint cultural shifts as they're happening because it's not a day/night difference.

As far as hip-hop, I think we are on the precipice of a gangsta rap revival.

As far as hip-hop, I think we are on the precipice of a gangsta rap revival.
What artists you think will revive that sub-genre?

As far as hip-hop, I think we are on the precipice of a gangsta rap revival.

Gangsta rap revival? That's news to me.

Gangsta rap revival? That's news to me.

I highly doubt it will happen tbh.

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I'm with ReignBP. I get that the culture has moved a little to the right after the very leftist oriented early-mid 10s but I think the overall Overton window has shifted to the left and we'll probably see that in the 2018 elections, although I think Trump still has a shot at winning in 2020.

I'm with ReignBP. I get that the culture has moved a little to the right after the very leftist oriented early-mid 10s but I think the overall Overton window has shifted to the left and we'll probably see that in the 2018 elections, although I think Trump still has a shot at winning in 2020.

Oh, I get it now! http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/ohhh.png

I do think the late '90s were much more liberal than the late '10s though.  This is probably the most conservative era since the 1980s if not the 1950s.  I'm so over it.

This era is not at all conservative and nowhere near how it was back then. Right now almost everyone is liberal around you and if someone were to be conservative and label themselves as conservative they would get strange looks. Not to mention gay marriage is legalized almost everywhere. Things like abortion is legal and hasn't been back then. LGBT movement is huge with transgender people being more accepted. This era is very liberal. Sometimes it's too liberal with all the SJW sand PC stuff and people getting offended over little things. There was never an era as liberal as today.

I highly doubt it will happen tbh.


Rap is more classyé now than it was then. Booty by Blac Yungsta or whatever his name was will flop.

This era is not at all conservative and nowhere near how it was back then. Right now almost everyone is liberal around you and if someone were to be conservative and label themselves as conservative they would get strange looks. Not to mention gay marriage is legalized almost everywhere. Things like abortion is legal and hasn't been back then. LGBT movement is huge with transgender people being more accepted. This era is very liberal. Sometimes it's too liberal with all the SJW sand PC stuff and people getting offended over little things. There was never an era as liberal as today.


You are in Canada.  Where I live, things haven't come very far since the 1950s.

You are in Canada.  Where I live, things haven't come very far since the 1950s.


He lives in the most conservative part of the country actually, and it's quite impressive how much more progressive that place has become in the past 5 or so years :o

He lives in the most conservative part of the country actually, and it's quite impressive how much more progressive that place has become in the past 5 or so years :o

True but to be fair Alberta was never socially conservative, just fiscally, especially in the cities. I think it is a misconception that is the very conservative where I really think certain rural parts of Quebec are the most conservative.

True but to be fair Alberta was never socially conservative, just fiscally, especially in the cities. I think it is a misconception that is the very conservative where I really think certain rural parts of Quebec are the most conservative.


Probably true, but Alberta is usually most conservative on most polls on social issues too from what I've seen.

Québec is kind of racist but somehow very progressive on other things too. I guess it's the European mentality. I honestly think if it wasn't for Québec, Canada would be as right wing as the US lol.

but Alberta is usually most conservative on most polls on social issues too from what I've seen.

Must be the rural folks then. Nobody is conservative here in the cities and I know a lot of people here it's as liberal as everywhere else in Canada haha.


I honestly think if it wasn't for Québec, Canada would be as right wing as the US lol.

I wouldn't go that far haha the US is a special case in extreme right wing values I still believe we would be more closely aligned with the UK given our history but you are right the cities in Quebec, particularly Montreal, are very liberal and much more liberal than the rural parts. BC is another very liberal and hippy province especially around the Vancouver area.

November 8 2016 was the precise beginning of the late 10's. I can't really see any argument that refutes this.

November 8 2016 was the precise beginning of the late 10's. I can't really see any argument that refutes this.


LMAO, the argument that it began on September 1st 2016.

LMAO, the argument that it began on September 1st 2016.


the 2016 election was the finale of the mid 2010's.