Anyone else feel like this?

Like Damn!

People will sh*t on you for saying this but I actually do kinda see what you mean. All the hysteria and craziness of that year, the endless celebrity deaths, and people thinking Donald Trump would never become president for most of the year, made 2016 feel rather "self-contained", "once in a lifetime", and dated almost immediately after its ended. Whereas 2017, while still crazy, feels more "back to normal" in some respects.

People will sh*t on you for saying this but I actually do kinda see what you mean. All the hysteria and craziness of that year, the endless celebrity deaths, and people thinking Donald Trump would never become president for most of the year, made 2016 feel rather "self-contained", "once in a lifetime", and dated almost immediately after its ended. Whereas 2017, while still crazy, feels more "back to normal" in some respects.


Oh I know everyone is going to be trying to sheesh all over it with memes lol I think you nailed it, 2016 was one of those years that got DATED SUPER FAST, because of the events that were to follow. I was just looking at pics from around October and everything just seems more self contained. The pics of people in the streets playing pokemon it just makes me go damn at how dated it got.

.. It actually.. does.

I miss it now because that's the year I was still working on my 2000s series, books.

.. It actually.. does.

I miss it now because that's the year I was still working on my 2000s series, books.


Like 2016 seems like it was like 2006 or 2008 or something but it wasn't ....... it was last year lol
Look at some pics on Facebook from 2016. MIND BLOWING that 2016 was last year

.. It actually.. does.

I miss it now because that's the year I was still working on my 2000s series, books.

I'll never miss 2016, or 2013-present in general. The current era has been hateful, divisive, vapid, and miserable, in my opinion.

Unlike in 2007 where I already missed 2001-2006.

Like 2016 seems like it was like 2006 or 2008 or something but it wasn't ....... it was last year lol

And that's a accurate, I see what your trying to get at. Its fascinating.


I'll never miss 2016, or 2013-present in general. The current era has been hateful, divisive, vapid, and miserable, in my opinion.

Unlike in 2007 where I already missed 2001-2006.


I stayed away from the media since that's the year and 2015 my nostalgia addiction started. Sorry it didn't work out that way for you.

I'll never miss 2016, or 2013-present in general. The current era has been hateful, divisive, vapid, and miserable, in my opinion.

Unlike in 2007 where I already missed 2001-2006.


2007 felt kind of removed around june of that year

2007 felt kind of removed around june of that year

For me it was mostly the kid culture of that year changing that made me miss 2001-2006, you were a teen so the changes were different for you. I remember being disappointed when Late Gen Y shows like Danny Phantom, Ned's Declassified, Kim Possible, and Drake and Josh ended and I remember the kids in 6th grade mocking the new Gen Z shows like Hannah Montana, Naked Brothers Band, iCarly, season 5+ SpongeBob, Back at the Barnyard, etc. and claiming the networks "got rid of all the good shows". Plus I just didn't like middle school, and missed elementary school from the second I laid foot in MS.

Not to me it doesn't. 2017 and 2016 feel very similar to each other and a part of the same era. 2015 is when things start to feel a little more distant and a different era.

2016 doesn't feel far away at all, in my opinion. If anything, 2016 and 2017 are hard to distinguish from one another due to the things you mentioned (Trump, celebrity deaths etc.). 2015, on the other hand, feels very noticeably removed from the present time.

Like 2016 seems like it was like 2006 or 2008 or something but it wasn't ....... it was last year lol
Look at some pics on Facebook from 2016. MIND BLOWING that 2016 was last year


Are you literally saying that 2016 looks more like 2006/8 than today!?! ;D

2016 doesn't feel far away at all, in my opinion. If anything, 2016 and 2017 are hard to distinguish from one another due to the things you mentioned (Trump, celebrity deaths etc.). 2015, on the other hand, feels very noticeably removed from the present time.


I agree, I think '16 and '17 are very similar, the only difference that I notice that this year feels a bit hmm calmer sort of, and this years music is worse.

Let's say last year and up to a month ago, certainly travelled quickly for me.

I agree, I think '16 and '17 are very similar, the only difference that I notice that this year feels a bit hmm calmer sort of, and this years music is worse.


I think people have come to accept the fact that Donald Trump is the US President and nothing else will change. :(

'16 seems like another world almost, to me.

I would say 2016 was the year that the last traces of the late '00s/early '10s died.  Sure, that culture hasn't been dominant since 2013 or so, but there were some remnants up until 2016.  This year feels like another era, one that I like even less than the mid '10s.  I have also physically aged a lot this year.  I looked 24 all the way up into my early thirties but over the course of a few months I am starting to actually look my age.  It's a little scary.

I wonder if we have reached an endless downward spiral in which each new era is worse than what came before.  I surely hope not.  The mid '10s sucked compared to the early '10s, but I actually think I am going to miss the mid '10s compared to what were are headed into now.

'16 seems like another world almost, to me.

I would say 2016 was the year that the last traces of the late '00s/early '10s died.  Sure, that culture hasn't been dominant since 2013 or so, but there were some remnants up until 2016.  This year feels like another era, one that I like even less than the mid '10s.  I have also physically aged a lot this year.  I looked 24 all the way up into my early thirties but over the course of a few months I am starting to actually look my age.  It's a little scary.

I wonder if we have reached an endless downward spiral in which each new era is worse than what came before.  I surely hope not.  The mid '10s sucked compared to the early '10s, but I actually think I am going to miss the mid '10s compared to what were are headed into now.

There are still many traces of the late 2000s and early 2010s now. Especially in pop culture with music and singers who were popular then and logo designs and the general atmosphere of culture. It is not a different world yet, it will be soon though. But at the moment 2007 still feels like the last year that is completely removed from today.

There are still many traces of the late 2000s and early 2010s now. Especially in pop culture with music and singers who were popular then and logo designs and the general atmosphere of culture. It is not a different world yet, it will be soon though. But at the moment 2007 still feels like the last year that is completely removed from today.


I would say 3rd quarter of 2008 is the last time that can be considered  removed

There are still many traces of the late 2000s and early 2010s now. Especially in pop culture with music and singers who were popular then and logo designs and the general atmosphere of culture. It is not a different world yet, it will be soon though. But at the moment 2007 still feels like the last year that is completely removed from today.


I think summer 2008 was the last time it felt removed from today.

I think summer 2008 was the last time it felt removed from today.

Yeah early 2008 up until the summer

2016 and 2017 are almost indistinguishable.

2013 is the earliest year that is connected to today, IMO.

2013 is the earliest year that is connected to today, IMO.

2013 is really late. 2013 was only 4 years ago, there are lots of things that are similar to today before then such as smartphones being popular already by 2011.  I would say we left the era of 2013 as that is the early 2010s and we left the era of 2014 which is mid 2010s, but there are still a lot of stuff before then that we use today.

The most recent year which feels very different to today is 2011 imo, and 2013 is the furtherest year which still feels like today.
2012 is inbetween.

The most recent year which feels very different to today is 2011 imo, and 2013 is the furtherest year which still feels like today.
2012 is inbetween.

Again 2013 doesn't feel like today but there are a lot of things today that had its roots all the way back to late 2008. 2009 isn't like a different world (2007 is for me) but it is still a separate era from today.

The most recent year which feels very different to today is 2011 imo, and 2013 is the furtherest year which still feels like today.
2012 is inbetween.

I agree with you.....despite Slim95's opinion.

The most recent year which feels very different to today is 2011 imo, and 2013 is the furtherest year which still feels like today.
2012 is inbetween.


Although I feel like these kinds of debates (whether -1 or +1 year belongs in whichever small era) are next to worthless, I agree with you on this. 2012 felt weird, like the late 00s, early 10s was dying out. 2013 is when I started to feel removed from the general culture again.

The only thing I don't like about 2017 is when Photobucket replaced a lot of images throughout the web with a placeholder image that tells a user to upgrade their account o enable 3rd party hosting. That wasn't the case in 2016.

I could see 2016 being removed and far away from my personal life because a lot of changes happened with me in 2017. I mean I'm still in university and all but it will seem like an old year pretty soon because I've had a lot of changes happen this year.

Not really so far. It's a LITTLE different because Trump wasn't actually president yet, but mostly the same. Now 2013-early-2015, I finally am starting to realize that was a bit different from today, not that significantly but I can see the differences now. The last few years are even more politically tense than back then was. It's crazy that I now see even that time (2013-early 2015) which I still hated as "less awful" than today, that's how bad right now is.

Not really so far. It's a LITTLE different because Trump wasn't actually president yet, but mostly the same. Now 2013-early-2015, I finally am starting to realize that was a bit different from today, not that significantly but I can see the differences now. The last few years are even more politically tense than back then was. It's crazy that I now see even that time (2013-early 2015) which I still hated as "less awful" than today, that's how bad right now is.


Can I ask what do you mean by those 'differences'? Especially in terms of early 2015?

Can I ask what do you mean by those 'differences'? Especially in terms of early 2015?


No Trump, no "alt right" crap, no "fake news" as a few examples.

2016 is different than now, but it doesn't "feel far away", that's something else haha.

If I didn't have to divide it into early/mid/late categories, I'd say these were the distinct parts of the 2010s

Late 2009 to early 2011: Recession era
Late 2011 to early 2013: Dubstep era/Smartphone boom
Mid-2013 to late 2014: #Selfie era (the young 2010s)
Late 2014/early 2015 - mid-2016: Oil crash/ISIS/Refugees era (maybe someone else can come up with a more positive name :P)
Late 2016 - Now: Brexit/Trump era.

I might be basing a lot of this out of my personal life though.

2016 is different than now, but it doesn't "feel far away", that's something else haha.

If I didn't have to divide it into early/mid/late categories, I'd say these were the distinct parts of the 2010s

Late 2009 to early 2011: Recession era
Late 2011 to early 2013: Dubstep era/Smartphone boom
Mid-2013 to late 2014: #Selfie era (the young 2010s)
Late 2014/early 2015 - mid-2016: Oil crash/ISIS/Refugees era (maybe someone else can come up with a more positive name :P)
Late 2016 - Now: Brexit/Trump era.

I might be basing a lot of this out of my personal life though.

Ah, I like that you made this into an era lol, I think it's definelty past the early 2010s but it's doesn't fit too well with 2015/6/7 either, so seems about right to call it the young 2010s. :)

I agree with others. 2015 is clearly a different time from now. It's like part of another era, especailly early 2015. The 2014 - 2015 era is finally seen as distinctly different. I didn't think we would get there that soon but we have.

I agree with others. 2015 is clearly a different time from now. It's like part of another era, especailly early 2015. The 2014 - 2015 era is finally seen as distinctly different. I didn't think we would get there that soon but we have.


yeah its quite weird but I agree with you. It's already feeling a while ago to me and it wasn't too long ago in reality

People will sh*t on you for saying this but I actually do kinda see what you mean. All the hysteria and craziness of that year, the endless celebrity deaths, and people thinking Donald Trump would never become president for most of the year, made 2016 feel rather "self-contained", "once in a lifetime", and dated almost immediately after its ended. Whereas 2017, while still crazy, feels more "back to normal" in some respects.

2017 is "back to normal" to you? If everything going on this year seems normal, I'd hate to see what isn't to you. I mean, you keep up with the news, right? I don't see how you can compare tons of celebrity deaths to hate, riots, and chaos, but ok.

2016 I hate political wise and I have a love/hate relationship with 2017 Personal wise. This year my Uncle and dog passed away so i haven't had the best time but I did meet my partner back in March so it's ok I guess.

2017 is "back to normal" to you? If everything going on this year seems normal, I'd hate to see what isn't to you. I mean, you keep up with the news, right? I don't see how you can compare tons of celebrity deaths to hate, riots, and chaos, but ok.


True, I know in America they're dealing with the threat of North Korea and of course the civil war between Antifa and KKK. I wouldn't say 2017 is 'back to normal'. In some aspects it's even crazier than 2016.

I can't really differentiate 2015 from 2016-2017 because everything after 2013 has been garbage in my opinion.

I can't really differentiate 2015 from 2016-2017 because everything after 2013 has been garbage in my opinion.

I can. 2015 feels quite different than now especially politically.

I can. 2015 feels quite different than now especially politically.

Not in the U.S.

Not in the U.S.

Yes in the U.S. Donald Trump wasn't president in 2015 now was he? Alt Right protests weren't happening in 2015 either. The political environment was completely different in 2015 in the U.S., especially the U.S. The ISIS terrorism did not reach the levels they are at now until late 2015. You guys down south should feel the difference more than me  ;D Justin Trudeau was still prime minister in late 2015. Why would you say not in the U.S. if there is a HUGE difference in politics between Trump and Obama?

I can. 2015 feels quite different than now especially politically.


I'm not sure, maybe in the US 2015 can already feel different politically because :P things over there seem to change so often especially with all the current issues, but I guess the reason 2015 feels nearly identical for me is becasue here, at least politically things have remained nearly exactly the same since 2008.

I'm not sure, maybe in the US 2015 can already feel different politically because :P things over there seem to change so often especially with all the current issues, but I guess the reason 2015 feels nearly identical for me is becasue here, at least politically things have remained nearly exactly the same since 2008.

He's Canadian NOT American.

Yes in the U.S. Donald Trump wasn't president in 2015 now was he? Alt Right protests weren't happening in 2015 either. The political environment was completely different in 2015 in the U.S., especially the U.S. The ISIS terrorism did not reach the levels they are at now until late 2015. You guys down south should feel the difference more than me  ;D Justin Trudeau was still prime minister in late 2015. Why would you say not in the U.S. if there is a HUGE difference in politics between Trump and Obama?

Trump's candidacy dominated national politics in the U.S. in 2015 despite Obama still being President. Also, the Alt-Right may not have been holding much rallies put there presence online was and continues to be strong. You can speak for Canada because you're Canadian but not the U.S. Also, ISIS rose to fame in 2014 with their beheadings.

He's Canadian NOT American.


I'm sorry :).... Did that offend you?

He's Canadian NOT American.

So what? All I'm saying is 2015 feels pretty different comparing to now, especially politically. A lot of others feel that as they commented on this thread saying the same. We are at that point where early 2015 is starting to feel distant, especially after all that has happened politically in 2016.


Trump's candidacy dominated national politics in the U.S. in 2015 despite Obama still being President. Also, the Alt-Right may not have been holding much rallies put there presence online was and continues to be strong. You can speak for Canada because you're Canadian but not the U.S. Also, ISIS rose to fame in 2014 with their beheadings.

That's why I said early 2015 in a couple posts before.  ;) Trump announced his candidacy in summer 2015. And I can speak for the U.S. because out news media talks about Trump and your country 24/7.

I'm sorry :).... Did that offend you?

No. I'm just clarifying that for you.

No. I'm just clarifying that for you.


Haha thanks  :)

Haha thanks  :)

You're welcome! :)

With Donald Trump as president, the alt-right protests, ISIS terrorism, and other little things it is pretty clear we are in a different era and in a different time than the 2014 - 2015 school year. As I said before I didn't think it would feel a long time ago this quick, but it kind of does now.

Going back to the original question in this thread, parts of 2016 such as Obama still being president can feel removed. I don't feel that yet but this may get more obvious as the years go on.

That's why I said early 2015 in a couple posts before.  ;) Trump announced his candidacy in summer 2015. And I can speak for the U.S. because out news media talks about Trump and your country 24/7.

You guys may receive a lot of our news but you don't actually live here. 2015 is not the same as 2017 but the U.S. is not drastically different now than it was in 2015. We even had a domestic White supremacist terror attack in 2015 with the Charleston shooting by Dylann Roof where he killed 9 African-American church goers.

You guys may receive a lot of our news but you don't actually live here. 2015 is not the same as 2017 but the U.S. is not drastically different now than it was in 2015. We even had a domestic White supremacist terror attack in 2015 with the Charleston shooting by Dylann Roof where he killed 9 African-American church goers.

I never said drastically. I specifically said "a little" different and not in the same era as today, especially politically. And I said it is pretty clear considering Trump is in the White House. I don't have to live there, the whole world knows what's going on in the U.S. We are your next door neighbour and we live in a time of breaking news right at your fingerprints. It is very easy to assess the situation because America is a super country. And Trump is the president, that alone makes for a completely different environment than when Obama was in power. 

I never said drastically. I specifically said "a little" different and not in the same era. I don't have to live there, the whole world knows what's going on in the U.S.

The whole world thinks that they know what's going on here but they only see the surface. Somethings that are on notable news from here doesn't make you completely knowledgeable about the state of the U.S. The U.S. is not monochromatic as you might think.

The whole world thinks that they know what's going on here but they only see the surface. Somethings that are on notable news from here doesn't make you completely knowledgeable about the state of the U.S. The U.S. is not monochromatic as you might think.

Ok but it still doesn't change my opinion or the opinion of others that the political climate is quite different now ever since Trump got in the White House. Not very relevant anyway to the discussion of 2016 feeling far away, so let's go back to the original topic. 2016 doesn't feel that far away to me but 2015 is starting to feel noticeably removed. Personal life wise, there are many stuff from 2016 that is starting to feel far away.

Ok but it still doesn't change my opinion or the opinion of others that the political climate is quite different now ever since Trump got in the White House. Not very relevant anyway to the discussion of 2016 feeling far away, so let's go back to the original topic. 2016 doesn't feel that far away to me but 2015 is starting to feel noticeably removed. Personal life wise, there are many stuff from 2016 that is starting to feel far away.

OK and that's fine. 2016 isn't far away from today as I've already said. How could someone think that just the past year is far away from today?

OK and that's fine. 2016 isn't far away from today as I've already said. How could someone think that just the past year is far away from today?

I guess because it was a pretty crazy year with all the celebrity deaths and violence so I can see why people may think it feels far away. It can be seen as a self contained year to some but to me it feels pretty similar to 2017. It feels like in 2017 we have been desensitized to the terrorist attacks. It is not as big of a shock anymore for a terrorist attack to happen and that is very sad.  :(

So what? All I'm saying is 2015 feels pretty different comparing to now, especially politically. A lot of others feel that as they commented on this thread saying the same. We are at that point where early 2015 is starting to feel distant, especially after all that has happened politically in 2016.
That's why I said early 2015 in a couple posts before.  ;) Trump announced his candidacy in summer 2015. And I can speak for the U.S. because out news media talks about Trump and your country 24/7.


Honestly dude I agree with ReignMan, 2015 & 2017 aren't much different politically. While in 2015 & 2016 there was still some sense of optimism especially with Obama being President, and many key policy decisions like the Paris Agreement, The Iran Deal, & The Cuban Embargo ending. However, the mere fact that Trump was only ready in the political public sphere for much of 2015, The Alt Right actually started to get big in 2015 with many former members of the GamerGate community, the Dylan Roof Terrorist attack, & ISIS being a major threat, I'd be hard press to say it was massively different.

Honestly, Late 2013/Early 2014 was probably the last era that was kind of removed from the current political climate. This post from me on the 'What Year You Turned 18' Thread goes into detail

Turned 18 in March of 2014, and pop culturally there has been some noticeable changes but for the most part is pretty similar to today. However, politically the difference between 2014 & 2017 is perplexing. If you were to tell me in 2014 that in 2017 Donald Trump, who back then was still mostly known as being a bombastic billionaire who had a cheesy reality show, I'd probably laugh in your face.

However, looking back many of the political events & political strife of today in 2017 had started to become massively unveiled to the public in 2014. The Ukrainian crisis had just begun with Russia invading Crimea in February. ISIS didn't become a renowned worldwide threat until (ironically) around the day of my high school graduation when ISIS had officially considered themselves the Islamic Caliphate and during that summer some of the first ISIS beheadings were shown to the masses. Finally, you had the shocking death of African-American teenager Michael Brown (who was actually the same age as me) who was shot to death by a police officer, despite being unarmed. The officer claimed that Brown was physically charging at the officer and thus the officer felt necessary to the defend itself. But the other side of the story was that Brown was merely just jaywalking in the street, was questioned by the officer for that reason, and ran away with the cop shooting his gun at his back. This polarizing event obviously led to the major rise in BLM.

Despite the craziness, 2014 however still had a sense of innocence though, in comparison to 2016-2017, as Trump (as mentioned prior) wasn't a major political threat, and the Alt Right movement wasn't as strong. Heck it seemed like most people (including Liberals) still had a common enemy, SJWs (aka the Regressive Left) and just continued to rebuke their bullsh!t all day (this was the height of the GamerGate movement). However, it wasn't until 2015-16' when the whole GamerGate and Anti SJW community (now starting to consider themselves the Skeptic community) started to abandon much of their liberal values in exchange for more extreme right wing or nationalist values (or at the very least, being sympathetic to those views), thanks in many parts to the rise of Trump, who was perceived as an outsider trying to fight the PC Establishment.

In short, 2014 is probably the year you could point to discern where most of our political strife originated from. However, because the ratio of crazy events was lower back then, Obama was still in his second term, and the economy was rebounding (starting around 2013/2014) thus most people were talking about that, 2014 (especially the 2013-2014 school year, aka my senior year in H.S) still had a sense of peace, innocence, and unity. We may not have always agreed back then politically, but people were definitely much more civil back then, and the fringe elements of the SJW Left & Alt Right weren't as influential as they are today.

Honestly its those elements (not to mention pop culture being much better) that are making starting to the miss the early 2010's in many ways, especially the era from Late 2012-Mid 2014 when pop culture was still good, and my personal life was much better (working at my first job, getting a car, JR/SR. years, looking at colleges, taking SATs, Jr./Sr. Proms, going to the beach & Six Flags all the time with my friends, etc.).

Mid-Late 2014 (or the 2014-2015 school year) is what truly ushered in the political climate of today in many ways. Once again, circumstances maybe different in Canada, but here in the U.S the political difference between the 2013-2014 school year & the 2014-2015 school year are noticeable.

I guess because it was a pretty crazy year with all the celebrity deaths and violence so I can see why people may think it feels far away. It can be seen as a self contained year to some but to me it feels pretty similar to 2017. It feels like in 2017 we have been desensitized to the terrorist attacks. It is not as big of a shock anymore for a terrorist attack to happen and that is very sad.  :(

Yeah, fair enough.

Honestly dude I agree with ReignMan, 2015 & 2017 aren't much different politically. While in 2015 & 2016 there was still some sense of optimism especially with Obama being President, and many key policy decisions like the Paris Agreement, The Iran Deal, & The Cuban Embargo ending. However, the mere fact that Trump was only ready in the political public sphere for much of 2015, The Alt Right actually started to get big in 2015 with many former members of the GamerGate community, the Dylan Roof Terrorist attack, & ISIS being a major threat, I'd be hard press to say it was massively different.

Honestly, Late 2013/Early 2014 was probably the last era that was kind of removed from the current political climate. This post from me on the 'What Year You Turned 18' Thread goes into detail

Mid-Late 2014 (or the 2014-2015 school year) is what truly ushered in the political climate of today in many ways. Once again, circumstances maybe different in Canada, but here in the U.S the political difference between the 2013-2014 school year & the 2014-2015 school year are noticeable.

Thanks for agreeing and I agree with you.

Honestly dude I agree with ReignMan, 2015 & 2017 aren't much different politically. While in 2015 & 2016 there was still some sense of optimism especially with Obama being President, and many key policy decisions like the Paris Agreement, The Iran Deal, & The Cuban Embargo ending. However, the mere fact that Trump was only ready in the political public sphere for much of 2015, The Alt Right actually started to get big in 2015 with many former members of the GamerGate community, the Dylan Roof Terrorist attack, & ISIS being a major threat, I'd be hard press to say it was massively different.

Honestly, Late 2013/Early 2014 was probably the last era that was kind of removed from the current political climate. This post from me on the 'What Year You Turned 18' Thread goes into detail

Mid-Late 2014 (or the 2014-2015 school year) is what truly ushered in the political climate of today in many ways. Once again, circumstances maybe different in Canada, but here in the U.S the political difference between the 2013-2014 school year & the 2014-2015 school year are noticeable.

To me it is drifting away from today. I think it will become more apparent later on as the years go by, but we'll see. I do agree 2014 - 2015 was also quite significant shift but on the whole I think 2015 was a lot more stable and calm than 2016 and 2017 are. And the fact that Trump is actually in the White House is a huge difference, you can't deny that. That's why 2015 feels kind of different to 2017 to many, including myself.

This feels like a transition year to me. 1993, 1997, 2001 and 2009 all had the same feeling to me

This feels like a transition year to me. 1993, 1997, 2001 and 2009 all had the same feeling to me


I agree. Every 4 years, the years of the elections, feels like an end of an era (2016, 2012, 2008, etc.) while their following years, the years you mentioned, are the beginning of a new one. The 2013-2016 was a dark time in my opinion, with both the social climate and pop culture. 2017 felt relatively quiet, until the Charlottesville incident happened.

I agree. Every 4 years, the years of the elections, feels like an end of an era (2016, 2012, 2008, etc.) while their following years, the years you mentioned, are the beginning of a new one. The 2013-2016 was a dark time in my opinion, with both the social climate and pop culture. 2017 felt relatively quiet, until the Charlottesville incident happened.

2017 isn't anymore quiet than 2017. We still have terrorism and instability. The only difference is people seem to be used to it and that's why it's not as shocking. But I would say 2017 is even worse than 2016 given all that is going on with the neo-Nazi and white supremacy movement and protests.

2017 isn't anymore quiet than 2017. We still have terrorism and instability. The only difference is people seem to be used to it and that's why it's not as shocking. But I would say 2017 is even worse than 2016 given all that is going on with the neo-Nazi and white supremacy movement and protests.


Good point. I think the reason why 2017 SEEMED more quiet was because the elections were finally over. Even though many are not happy with the results, it seems like they just had to learn to accept it.

2017 marks the end of the liberal culture that dominated the Obama era.  Things are going back in a more conservative direction and given today's Right, we are really in uncharted territory.

2017 marks the end of the liberal culture that dominated the Obama era.  Things are going back in a more conservative direction and given today's Right, we are really in uncharted territory.

Not really. Same thing happened in 1980, 1994 and 2010.

I believe this is a transitional year as well and that 2018 could be the real start to the late part of the 2010s.2017 just feels like a year were things completely Chang after let's admit music is still mid 10s but 2018-2019 will change this.

Nah, 2016 feels like it was a minute ago

A bunch of stores in the area in SD are closing this year  =(

I think the reason early 2016 can feel a little distant is because Trump wasn't in the White House. And early 2015 feels even more distant because Trump wasn't in politics or in the media at all.

Late 2009 to early 2011: Recession era

You mean late 2008 to early 2009: Recession era.

By mid '09, we were out of the recession. And by late 2011, the economy was actually doing better than before we went in because of the oil boom.

You mean late 2008 to early 2009: Recession era.

By mid '09, we were out of the recession. And by late 2011, the economy was actually doing better than before we went in because of the oil boom.


Sure, if you're going for the technical definition of a recession, but that's not what determines socio-political reality, pop culture and day to day life. The unemployment rate peaked in 2010, and we didn't get back to pre-2008 unemployment rate until 2017. Oil boom didn't do anything for Eastern Canada or the US, it was still a dreary recession atmosphere for much of the 2010s.

You mean late 2008 to early 2009: Recession era.

By mid '09, we were out of the recession. And by late 2011, the economy was actually doing better than before we went in because of the oil boom.

Recession began in December 2007.

Recession began in December 2007.


Technically, yes. But the full reality didn't really hit the country or the world at large until the crash.

2017 isn't anymore quiet than 2017. We still have terrorism and instability. The only difference is people seem to be used to it and that's why it's not as shocking. But I would say 2017 is even worse than 2016 given all that is going on with the neo-Nazi and white supremacy movement and protests.


The last few months have been rough. I'd say even worse than 2016 overall.


I think the reason early 2016 can feel a little distant is because Trump wasn't in the White House. And early 2015 feels even more distant because Trump wasn't in politics or in the media at all.


Actually Trump was already talking about running by mid 2015.

Technically, yes. But the full reality didn't really hit the country or the world at large until the crash.


I would say the recession era was ramping up starting in early 2008.  It peaked in 2009 and 2010 and then plateaued in 2011-12.  Then in 2013 we finally started to emerge out of it.  From my memory, by 2015 it started to feel like the economy was becoming normal again.

In terms of impact on main street, the technical recession is usually nearing its end by the time most people start to feel it, but the pain lasts a good deal longer than the actual recession.  This last recession was a perfect example of that.

The last few months have been rough. I'd say even worse than 2016 overall.
Actually Trump was already talking about running by mid 2015.

I know. I said early 2015.

I know. I said early 2015.


My bad. I overlooked the "early" part.

I would say the recession era was ramping up starting in early 2008.  It peaked in 2009 and 2010 and then plateaued in 2011-12.  Then in 2013 we finally started to emerge out of it.  From my memory, by 2015 it started to feel like the economy was becoming normal again.

In terms of impact on main street, the technical recession is usually nearing its end by the time most people start to feel it, but the pain lasts a good deal longer than the actual recession.  This last recession was a perfect example of that.


id say 2014 is when things started feeling normal again economy wise

id say 2014 is when things started feeling normal again economy wise

2014 was when the economy was at its peak and it was the calm before the storm. Once early 2015 came, we had the worst financial crisis in history and the recession was huge and even bigger than the one in 2009. Late 2014 is when it started, that's when gas prices and the price of oil dropped heavily and then we were officially in a recession in early 2015. It was an economic disaster. Early and summer 2014 the economy was on fire on though, people were spending like crazy, everyone had a job, and there were very little worries among people. Our family went on vacation to Mexico December 2014 with all the extra disposable money we had. The economy was great, jobs were available, the dollar was high, and everyone was very happy. Feels sort of dreamy looking back. I don't know if we will ever get back to how it was in 2014 economically. The drop in oil prices hit hard and everyone still feels the affects today, though it is getting slightly better.

Canada and the US are on slightly different pages in terms of the overall economy, possibly due to the impact that the oil & gas industry has up there compared to the US.  2015 was the beginning of a localized recession in the Great Plains region of the US but the economy as a whole was still strengthening at that time.

Canada and the US are on slightly different pages in terms of the overall economy, possibly due to the impact that the oil & gas industry has up there compared to the US.  2015 was the beginning of a localized recession in the Great Plains region of the US but the economy as a whole was still strengthening at that time.


It also just depends on what part of the contient you're in. In Ontario, the Great Recession hit us really hard and decimated our manufacturing sector. We're pretty much the Canadian Rust Belt. 2009-2015 were all really bad (but the early '10s were the worst). In 2016 things started getting better and in 2017 the economy is on fire. Our property market is red hot, our manufacturing is competitive because of the low dollar, unemployment hit record low, wage growth is up etc. 2017 has a very late '90s feel to it economically, which is why I have a hard time considering it to be the core 2010s. 2010s and "good economy" don't go together in my mind ;D But that's very région-sepcific of course, other parts of the continent aren't doing so well.

Canada and the US are on slightly different pages in terms of the overall economy, possibly due to the impact that the oil & gas industry has up there compared to the US.  2015 was the beginning of a localized recession in the Great Plains region of the US but the economy as a whole was still strengthening at that time.

Yeah it depends where you are in Canada and the United States. I live in Alberta where oil is the most important resource and our economy depends on it so that's why were were hit hard this decade and less-so from the great recession. The NDP government are working hard to diversify our economy now.

January-November 8, 2016 does feel rather different from 2017 to me, at least, and didn't feel as dark. It's like 2013/14-present is a gradient scale of darkness and tension, with each year being a shade darker than the last.

January-November 8, 2016 does feel rather different from 2017 to me, at least, and didn't feel as dark. It's like 2013/14-present is a gradient scale of darkness and tension, with each year being a shade darker than the last.

Early 2015 doesn't feel as dark to me. I think the mass shootings started in late 2015 with the Paris incident and the world has just went off into the deep end since then.

It also just depends on what part of the contient you're in. In Ontario, the Great Recession hit us really hard and decimated our manufacturing sector. We're pretty much the Canadian Rust Belt. 2009-2015 were all really bad (but the early '10s were the worst). In 2016 things started getting better and in 2017 the economy is on fire. Our property market is red hot, our manufacturing is competitive because of the low dollar, unemployment hit record low, wage growth is up etc. 2017 has a very late '90s feel to it economically, which is why I have a hard time considering it to be the core 2010s. 2010s and "good economy" don't go together in my mind ;D But that's very région-sepcific of course, other parts of the continent aren't doing so well.


The economy has been doing very good here for the whole of the mid 2010s.

Early 2015 doesn't feel as dark to me. I think the mass shootings started in late 2015 with the Paris incident and the world has just went off into the deep end since then.


Actually I think it started with the Charleston church shootings, which laundry the whole Confederate flag debate. 2014 was a dark year with the Ferguson riots and the Ukraine revolution. The very late part (holiday season) of 2014 and early 2015 seemed like a quiet break, the calm before the storm.

Don't forget the SCOTUS decision legalizing gay marriage in June 2015.  That was a very dark time where I live because everybody was acting like the world had come to an end.  I never seen so many people losing their mind all at once.

Anyone else feel like this?

Like Damn!


Just wait until 2019 when movies from 2016 movies are being played on the big television networks. Then, we'll really be living in a year that is nothing like 2016.

Don't forget the SCOTUS decision legalizing gay marriage in June 2015.  That was a very dark time where I live because everybody was acting like the world had come to an end.  I never seen so many people losing their mind all at once.

Wouldn't legalizing gay marriage be a good thing? How is that dark?

Wouldn't legalizing gay marriage be a good thing? How is that dark?


When you live in the rural South, are in the closet, and have to be around people in a tizzy, it wasn't a fun time.

Mid 2010s culture was long in the tooth in 2016

Actually, I think it started with the Charleston church shootings, which laundry the whole Confederate flag debate. 2014 was a dark year with the Ferguson riots and the Ukraine revolution. The very late part (holiday season) of 2014 and early 2015 seemed like a quiet break, the calm before the storm.
More like it began with the Colorado Theater shooting. After that, it continued from there until the Sandy Hook shooting. Then, there was a huge break from them in 2013 and the first half of 2014 until the UCSB incident. I do agree though with your last statement. That period seemed like there was nothing major bad happening.