My biggest pet peeve is when people say the 2000s were from 2000 to 2010 which makes it 11 years instead of 10. I don't know why it bothers me but it does. I try to correct them. It's like people skip the year 2000 when they should count it as the first year and include 2010 as the last year of the decade.  Sorry for my rant.

My biggest pet peeve is when people say the 2000s were from 2000 to 2010 which makes it 11 years instead of 10. I don't know why it bothers me but it does. I try to correct them. It's like people skip the year 2000 when they should count it as the first year and include 2010 as the last year of the decade.  Sorry for my rant.


It's a pet peeve of mine when people say 2008 was the first year of the 2010s.  People forget how much we take for granted today didn't yet exist or wasn't prominent in 2008.  The early '10s, in my opinion, were more an extension of the late '00s than a precursor to the core '10s.

Overall, the 2000s was a decade that I feel started and ended on time.  2000 was already more '00s than '90s. 

I noticed this on a "Late '90s and Early 2000s Rock (1995-2005)" playlist. That's 11 years!

It's my biggest pet peeve when Facebook/Buzzfeed users say 2007-2009 things like AutoTune, Justin Bieber, and iPhones are "2000s". The real 2000s was Sept 11 2001-2006. 2007-2009 weren't the 2000s, they were a weird, parallel universe.

(j/k)

It's my biggest pet peeve when Facebook/Buzzfeed users say 2007-2009 things like AutoTune, Justin Bieber, and iPhones are "2000s". The real 2000s was Sept 11 2001-2006. 2007-2009 weren't the 2000s, they were a weird, parallel universe.

(j/k)

Yes!! That irritates me sometimes. When they have an article on the 2000s they always mention Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez and Adele.

Yes!! That irritates me some times. When they have an article on the 2000s they always mention Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez and Adele.


They were pretty popular in 2009  :P

They were pretty popular in 2009  :P

Slowpoke really? One year? :o. When they mention the 90s Do they always include Christina Aguilera, JLo or Eminem?

Because there are some people who use some system where the first year of the decade is actually the last year of the previous decade. They make the argument that the "0" year doesn't count for the new decade so that's why they call 2000 part of the 1990s, 2010 part of the 2000s, etc. I don't agree with it either, but that's why.

Because there are some people who use some system where the first year of the decade is actually the last year of the previous decade. They make the argument that the "0" year doesn't count for the new decade so that's why they call 2000 part of the 1990s, 2010 part of the 2000s, etc. I don't agree with it either, but that's why.


I originally used to believe that was the case when I was a kid, because of how there wasn't a year 0 AD. Coincidentally, I thought 2010 was the final year of the 2000s decade, however I soon realised that it wasn't the case when I was almost 11.

(j/k)


Oh, thank god. You saved me a paragraph.  ;D

When they mention the 90s Do they always include Christina Aguilera, JLo or Eminem?

Definitely.

Oh, thank god. You saved me a paragraph.  ;D

Why?  It's not wrong... 2007-2009 stuff isn't "the real '00s". This is especially true for 2008 - 2009 stuff.

My biggest pet peeve is when people say the 2000s were from 2000 to 2010 which makes it 11 years instead of 10. I don't know why it bothers me but it does. I try to correct them. It's like people skip the year 2000 when they should count it as the first year and include 2010 as the last year of the decade.  Sorry for my rant.


Culturally, the 2000s started in 1999 and ended in 2010.

Law and Order, Larry King Live, Barney and Friends, and At the Movies all went off the air in 2010. 2011 was the first full year that did not feel like an extension to late '98.

I'm sorry that bothers you.

Slowpoke really? One year? :o. When they mention the 90s Do they always include Christina Aguilera, JLo or Eminem?


Actually, if they were popular in 1999, they're likely considered early 2000s, just as Paramore and Soulja Boy are icons of the early 2000s. 2009 is the only year from the so-called "2000" decade that's not a source of early 2000s nostalgia, but instead electropop era nostalgia.

I think that has to do with the year still being heavily 00s.

I think that has to do with the year still being heavily 00s.

2010 is part of the 2010s decade, not 2000s. The 2010s are 2010 - 2019. So it can't be heavily 00s if it's in another decade. Also culturally the 2000s died in late 2008, so 2010 has nothing to do with 2000s culture. 2009 was the first full early 2010s year, culturally speaking.

2010 is part of the 2010s decade, not 2000s. The 2010s are 2010 - 2019. So it can't be heavily 00s if it's in another decade. Also culturally the 2000s died in late 2008, so 2010 has nothing to do with 2000s culture. 2009 was the first full early 2010s year, culturally speaking.
I don't think so. the 00s identity was still strong in 2009 and 2010.

I don't think so. the 00s identity was still strong in 2009 and 2010.

How? Everything about the '00s was gone by 2009 and the 2010s stuff like electropop and new artist and technology started coming. That's like saying 1990s identity was strong in 1999 and 2000, which simply isn't true.

How? Everything about the '00s was gone by 2009 and the 2010s stuff like electropop and new artist and technology started coming. That's like saying 1990s identity was strong in 1999 and 2000, which simply isn't true.
Social media was only just Myspace and facebook. Everyone still had non-smart cell phones. Most people had broadband internet. The fashion was still 00s, and the music was more than just electropop.

Social media was only just Myspace and facebook. Everyone still had non-smart cell phones. Most people had broadband internet. The fashion was still 00s, and the music was more than just electropop.

No it wasn't just MySpace and Facebook. What about Twitter? What about YouTube? What about Chatroullete? All of these were popular in 2010... MySpace was dead in 2010... And Facebook only got started in 2007 which doesn't even make it a true 2000s thing... The only true 2000s social media sites is MySpace and maybe YouTube. If you think Facebook and MySpace (which was already dead in 2010) were the only social media sites that were popular in 2010 you really need to get your memory checked. Chatroulette was actually at its peak this year and Twitter and YouTube were both heavily used. There were probably other social media sites as well I am not remembering at the moment.

And no, not everyone had non-smart phones in 2010. Yes many people still had slider phones and they were not out of fashion yet , but smartphones were still very popular in 2010. Pretty much nobody had flip phones anymore, which were really the phones of the 2000s.

No, it wasn't just MySpace and Facebook. What about Twitter? What about YouTube? What about Chatroulette? All of these were popular in 2010... MySpace was dead in 2010... And Facebook only got started in 2007 which doesn't even make it a true 2000s thing... The only true 2000s social media sites is MySpace and maybe YouTube. If you think Facebook and MySpace (which was already dead in 2010) were the only social media sites that were popular in 2010 you really need to get your memory checked.
Uhhhh. Not this again. Yeah, Twitter had a presence, but it wasn't THAT popular in 2010. Oh, and MySpace was not dead that year. It didn't truly die until the format was changed which happened in 2011.

As for Youtube, it was already popular, but it's not like people were using it as a social media platform compared to today. In 2010, that site was still mainly funny and home videos.

Chatroulette? Why do we need to talk about this site?

Uhhhh. Not this again. Yeah, Twitter had a presence, but it wasn't THAT popular in 2010. Oh, and MySpace was not dead that year. It didn't truly die until the format was changed which happened in 2011.

As for Youtube, it was already popular, but it's not like people were using it as a social media platform compared to today. In 2010, that site was still mainly funny and home videos.

Chatroulette? Why do we need to talk about this site?

I have to keep bringing Twitter up because I brought up countless YouTube videos and songs on this forum that bring up tweeting and Twitter in 2009 and people still claim it wasn't popular... How can you expect me to let that one go when it is literally in front of your face showing how popular the site was in 2010? And a 14 year old me who was not into social media at all seeing the news of the death of Michael Jackson in 2009 on Twitter with major news outlets reporting it on Twitter? Was it popular on mobile? No. It was however still popular on the web, just like Facebook. The big 3 in 2010 were Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter. How can you refute that? And how can you say MySpace wasn't dead in 2010? Come on man... Nobody liked MySpace then and made fun of you if you used it in 2010, even I remember that. It was no longer the popular go-to social media site and Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube have replaced it...

I have to keep bringing Twitter up because I brought up countless YouTube videos and songs on this forum that bring up tweeting and Twitter in 2009 and people still claim it wasn't popular... How can you expect me to let that one go when it is literally in front of your face showing how popular the site was in 2010? And a 14-year-old me who was not into social media at all seeing the news of the death of Michael Jackson in 2009 on Twitter with major news outlets reporting it on Twitter? Was it popular on mobile? No. It was however still popular on the web, just like Facebook. The big 3 in 2010 were Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter. How can you refute that? And how can you say MySpace wasn't dead in 2010? Come on man... Nobody liked MySpace then and made fun of you if you used it in 2010, even I remember that. It was no longer the popular go-to social media site and Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube has replaced it...
MySpace was not dead in 2010. There were still millions of people using it despite the transition to FB. Oh, and if Twitter was well known in 2009-10, then why do my family, friends and I not remember hearing about it? During that year, it was more about Facebook, Youtube, and even Myspace than Twitter.

I watched the news and surfed the web that year, and I don't recall news anchors or even the Youtubers of that time talking about twitter or saying "Follow me on this." "Follow me on that".

MySpace was not dead in 2010. There were still millions of people using it despite the transition to FB. Oh, and if Twitter was well known in 2009-10, then why do my family, friends and I not remember hearing about it? During that year, it was more about Facebook, Youtube, and even Myspace than Twitter.

I watched the news and surfed the web that year, and I don't recall news anchors or even the Youtubers of that time talking about twitter or saying "Follow me on this." "Follow me on that".

So you want me to show you the iJustine video and Twitter songs again? All from 2009?

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How do you explain this then? Btw IJustine was one of the biggest YouTubers in 2009. So how can you say Twitter wasn't well known in 2009? I don't know why you haven't heard about it, that is very odd to be honest or you don't remember right. And yeah these videos are proof of famous people syaing "follow me on Twitter" in 2009. It was more popular than MySpace.

So I'm curious now, do you still want to make the claim Twitter wasn't popular in 2010 and nobody said "follow me on Twitter" after seeing these videos of celebrities singing about it in 2009? I can try to find more videos if you want. Or you can give it up and admit Twitter was popular in 2010. :P

So you want me to show you the iJustine video and Twitter songs again? All from 2009?

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How do you explain this then? Btw IJustine was one of the biggest YouTubers in 2009. So how can you say Twitter wasn't well known in 2009? I don't know why you haven't heard about it, that is very odd to be honest or you don't remember right. And yeah these videos are proof of famous people saying "follow me on Twitter" in 2009. It was more popular than MySpace.

So I'm curious now, do you still want to make the claim Twitter wasn't popular in 2010 and nobody said "follow me on Twitter" after seeing these videos of celebrities singing about it in 2009? I can try to find more videos if you want. Or you can give it up and admit Twitter was popular in 2010. :P
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D That's only 3 videos.

Like I said before, I wasn't the only one not aware of Twitter in 2009 and '10. My family, friends, and others I knew weren't aware of the site either, and that was normal. I even already showed you stats for both here and for the world.

I think the reason you and Slowpoke knew about it first is probably that it reached Canada faster than the U.S.

2012 was the last year of the 00's.  :)

I was definitely aware of Twitter by 2010. Was it as extremely well known as today? No. Was it completely unheard of? No. Myspace was dying starting around 2009, though yeah some people still used it in 2009-2010. I joined Facebook in August of 2008 and didn't use Myspace much after that. Myspace I believe I joined in 2006. Before 2006 it was only AIM for me, I think I started using AIM around 1999.

2012 was the last year of the 00's.  :)


Eh 2012 isn't '00s. It's early '10s and different today but not '00s. 2010 isn't really '00s either. 2008 really was the last time it felt truly '00s to me.

Eh 2012 isn't '00s. It's early '10s and different today but not '00s. 2010 isn't really '00s either. 2008 really was the last time it felt truly '00s to me.


2008 had such a huge change in culture.

Yeah, 2009 felt 10's for some reason. Not sure why! Kind of a fast change in atmosphere if you ask me.

2008 had such a huge change in culture.

Yeah, 2009 felt 10's for some reason. Not sure why! Kind of a fast change in atmosphere if you ask me.


The economic crash in late '08. The bailout. Obama getting elected and taking office. Rise of electropop. Decline of southern rap. Decline of myspace was definitely starting. Smartphones were now starting to get mainstream popularity, not anywhere near today but taking off. They were finally becoming popular in the consumer space instead of being just for business people. HDTV was now more truly mainstream. There's really a lot of reasons late '08/early '09 is an important transition to look at.

The economic crash in late '08. The bailout. Obama getting elected and taking office. Rise of electropop. Decline of southern rap. Decline of myspace was definitely starting. Smartphones were now starting to get mainstream popularity, not anywhere near today but taking off. They were finally becoming popular in the consumer space instead of being just for business people. HDTV was now more truly mainstream. There's really a lot of reasons late '08/early '09 is an important transition to look at.


To me, 2009 felt culturally 00s but politically and economically 10s.

To me, 2009 felt culturally 00s but politically and economically 10s.

Not to me it didn't. Electropop and bright coloured clothing aren't 2000s stuff.

I don't think so. the 00s identity was still strong in 2009 and 2010.


I wouldn't say the 2000s identity was still strong, but there was definitely still a "2000s" vibe until about Early 2011. Just my opinion anyway.

To me, 2009 felt culturally 00s but politically and economically 10s.

I agree with this.

2012 was the last year of the 00's.  :)


While 2012 is early 10's, it was the first year that definetly feels 2010s to me.

Why?  It's not wrong... 2007-2009 stuff isn't "the real '00s". This is especially true for 2008 - 2009 stuff.

2004-2008 was the core 00's. Everything including music, TV, games, fashion and films remained the same during those years. Everything before those years is 20th century influenced, while 2009-present is modern.

I have to keep bringing Twitter up because I brought up countless YouTube videos and songs on this forum that bring up tweeting and Twitter in 2009 and people still claim it wasn't popular... How can you expect me to let that one go when it is literally in front of your face showing how popular the site was in 2010? And a 14 year old me who was not into social media at all seeing the news of the death of Michael Jackson in 2009 on Twitter with major news outlets reporting it on Twitter? Was it popular on mobile? No. It was however still popular on the web, just like Facebook. The big 3 in 2010 were Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter. How can you refute that? And how can you say MySpace wasn't dead in 2010? Come on man... Nobody liked MySpace then and made fun of you if you used it in 2010, even I remember that. It was no longer the popular go-to social media site and Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube have replaced it...

Really? Twitter in 2009? Maybe late 2009 at earliest, but nobody took it seriously before it got incorporated into Google in at the end of 2009. Blogger was way more popular. I'd like to see those links of people in 2009 talking about Twitter. Because I struggle to find mention of it in any 2009 video or forum post until around November, and even then those were more like speculation on whether Twitter was going to become the next big thing in the next decade. Twitter didn't even have a mobile app until 2010, mobile is the platform Twitter gets used the most.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2009/08/twitter-not-so-popular-with-the-young-people/

Ign forum comment, 2009
Twitter actually isn't popular. It's all media hype - very few normal people actually use it or check it, because it's more or less pointless. You get more status updates from friends on facebook and if you want to follow news/celebrities, there are websites that do a better job.

There's a harvard study out there that says 85% of twitter accounts have only been used once or something. It's all smoke and mirrors - don't waste your time!

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/new-show-to-incorporate-twitter-somehow.180632364/

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/why-do-non-famous-people-have-a-twitter.178841176/

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/i-dont-care-if-old-lmao-at-these-nba-players-tweets-before-twitter-became-huge.454275750/

The comments don't sound like many people are familiar with Twitter.

2004-2008 was the core 00's. Everything including music, TV, games, fashion and films remained the same during those years. Everything before those years is 20th century influenced, while 2009-present is modern.


More like 2003-2007 was the core 00's. 2008 is still a 00's year, late 00's specifically, but no way that was core because the transition started in the 2nd half of that year.

I'm completely laughing at this thread because a lot of the stuff Brian and Slim have said is what I'm been trying to tell everybody on here the last several months about 2009 being the first full year the pop culture felt more 10's than 00's. The 2008-09 season/school year was the TRANSITION from 00's to 10's culture and by the 2009-10 season/school year 10's culture was in full effect 100%. I've said it multiple times for several reasons. There were still hints, influences, and vibes of late 00's culture in 2010 and 2011 but without a question the pop culture and political/economic world was more 10's by then.

Although I agree with UltraGameDog that while Twitter was known in 2009, it was no where near as popular as it has been since 2012-present when all of your peers and friends started making Twitter's and people said "follow me here and I'll follow you back.", and by late 2011 and 2012 every commercial ad for a company, every celebrity, sports star, etc. started advertising their Twitters everywhere. You look on cereal boxes or a lysol product you'll see the Twitter logo on it or a hashtag. You didn't see Twitter icons on products everywhere back in 2009, and a bunch of people weren't creating Twitters yet in 2009. Since 2012 Twitter has been stamped on hashtagged on EVERYTHING (companies, commercials, celebrities, etc.) like a worldwide takeover. 

I'm sorry, but Myspace has been dead af since 2010. By the time my freshman year of high school came NOBODY talked about Myspace. Everybody made fun of you if you still had a Myspace account and this was back in Fall 2010. Most of my friends started making Facebook's in 8th grade (2009-10). I say the major social media sites that's has more of a mid 10's vibe than early are Instagram, Vine (when it was alive), and Snapchat. Am I missing one more? Facebook, Twitter and YouTube are still used by a lot of people today, so that makes those social media sites more 10's than 00's automatically, except for early pre-HD YouTube from 2006-2008.

I wouldn't say the 2000s identity was still strong, but there was definitely still a "2000s" vibe until about Early 2011. Just my opinion anyway.
Yeah, I think that came off too strong. It's just that some folks don't realize there was more to the late 00s than just electropop and colorful fashion.


Really? Twitter in 2009? Maybe late 2009 at earliest, but nobody took it seriously before it got incorporated into Google in at the end of 2009. Blogger was way more popular. I'd like to see those links of people in 2009 talking about Twitter. Because I struggle to find mention of it in any 2009 video or forum post until around November, and even then those were more like speculation on whether Twitter was going to become the next big thing in the next decade. Twitter didn't even have a mobile app until 2010, mobile is the platform Twitter gets used the most.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2009/08/twitter-not-so-popular-with-the-young-people/

Ign forum comment, 2009
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/new-show-to-incorporate-twitter-somehow.180632364/

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/why-do-non-famous-people-have-a-twitter.178841176/

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/i-dont-care-if-old-lmao-at-these-nba-players-tweets-before-twitter-became-huge.454275750/

The comments don't sound like many people are familiar with Twitter.



Although I agree with UltraGameDog that while Twitter was known in 2009, it was nowhere near as popular as it has been since 2012-present when all of your peers and friends started making Twitter's and people said "follow me here and I'll follow you back.", and by late 2011 and 2012, every commercial ad for a company, every celebrity, sports star, etc. started advertising their Twitters everywhere. You look on cereal boxes or a Lysol product you'll see the Twitter logo on it or a hashtag. You didn't see Twitter icons on products everywhere back in 2009, and a bunch of people weren't creating Twitters yet in 2009. Since 2012 Twitter has been stamped on hashtagged on EVERYTHING (companies, commercials, celebrities, etc.) like a worldwide takeover. 

I'm sorry, but Myspace has been dead af since 2010. By the time my freshman year of high school came NOBODY talked about Myspace. Everybody made fun of you if you still had a Myspace account and this was back in Fall 2010. Most of my friends started making Facebook's in 8th grade (2009-10). I say the major social media sites that are has more of a mid 10's vibe than early are Instagram, Vine (when it was alive), and Snapchat. Am I missing one more? Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube are still used by a lot of people today, so that makes those social media sites more 10's than 00's automatically, except for early pre-HD YouTube from 2006-2008.
Thanks guys! Your statements is the perspective I have about Twitter. I don't remember ANY of my friends, peers, family or even celebrities talking about Twitter in 2009 including the death of MJ. It was all about Facebook during that time. It was normal for anyone not to know what twitter was before it blew up.

As for Myspace, the reason I don't agree that it died in 2010 is that there were millions of people still using it despite the huge transition to FB; the old layout was still intact, and the site was still in the original owner's hands. It wasn't until 2011 when Myspace was sold to JT, and then the layout was changed to the current one it where it was finally dead.

Lol, we can't be having this debate for the millionth time xD

I got Twitter in December 2008 and it was already somewhat popular then. My school also had a Twitter account for updates and posting volunteer/work opportunities, and I saw tons of my classmates following that account, maybe 30-40%. So Twitter was already very relevant in my life in 2009, but I agree also that it got much more popular in 2011/2012, its biggest burst in popularity. It peaked sometime in 2015, I think it's been stagnant since then. I could see it dying it out in 5 years time tbh, maybe even the next two years.

2004-2008 was the core 00's. Everything including music, TV, games, fashion and films remained the same during those years. Everything before those years is 20th century influenced, while 2009-present is modern.

That is incorrect. 2001 - 2006 was the core 2000s. The early 2000s are NOT 20th century influenced and they are seperate from the 1990s.

Really? Twitter in 2009? Maybe late 2009 at earliest, but nobody took it seriously before it got incorporated into Google in at the end of 2009. Blogger was way more popular. I'd like to see those links of people in 2009 talking about Twitter. Because I struggle to find mention of it in any 2009 video or forum post until around November, and even then those were more like speculation on whether Twitter was going to become the next big thing in the next decade. Twitter didn't even have a mobile app until 2010, mobile is the platform Twitter gets used the most.

Yes really. So did you ignore my Chris Brown video? IJustine video? How can you deny it wasn't popular if celebrities were talking about it in 2009? And the media hype of Michael Jackson's death in June 2009? Why do you keep sayong Twitter wasn't popular in 2009 when it was? I just don't understand some of you people on here it is as if you guys lived under a rock in '09 or something. Just because it was more popular after 2011, DOES NOT mean it wasn't popular in 2009/2010. It was well known and the 3 videos I showed you proves that. Please tell me why you keep denying it?

Lol, we can't be having this debate for the millionth time xD

I got Twitter in December 2008 and it was already somewhat popular then. My school also had a Twitter account for updates and posting volunteer/work opportunities, and I saw tons of my classmates following that account, maybe 30-40%. So Twitter was already very relevant in my life in 2009, but I agree also that it got much more popular in 2011/2012, its biggest burst of popularity. It peaked sometime in 2015, I think it's been stagnant since then. I could see it dying it out in 5 years time tbh, maybe even the next two years.
I honestly think it was more popular in Canada at the time than here which is why you and Slim knew about it before most people did.

I honestly think it was more popular in Canada at the time than here which is why you and Slim knew about it before most people did.

Chris Brown isn't Canadian... IJustine isn't Canadian... American media isn't Canadian. They shared their Twitter and made those videos to their American fans. So that isn't true... It got popular in America in 2009, and those videos I showed you prove that.

I'm completely laughing at this thread because a lot of the stuff Brian and Slim have said is what I'm been trying to tell everybody on here the last several months about 2009 being the first full year the pop culture felt more 10's than 00's. The 2008-09 season/school year was the TRANSITION from 00's to 10's culture and by the 2009-10 season/school year 10's culture was in full effect 100%. I've said it multiple times for several reasons. There were still hints, influences, and vibes of late 00's culture in 2010 and 2011 but without a question the pop culture and political/economic world was more 10's by then.

I agree

Chris Brown isn't Canadian... IJustine isn't Canadian... American media isn't Canadian. They shared their Twitter and made those videos to their American fans. So that isn't true... It got popular in America in 2009, and those videos I showed you prove that.
But you're making it sound like it was just as popular as FB when it wasn't. I understand you're saying that Twitter had a presence, but it was second in line compared to FB during that time.

But you're making it sound like it was just as popular as FB when it wasn't. I understand you're saying that Twitter had a presence, but it was second in line compared to FB during that time.

No I never said it was just as popular as Facebook. Facebook was number 1 at the time and Twitter was at 3. It was still popular though just not as popular as Facebook. I'd be surprised if someone between the ages of 13 and 21 in 2010 hasn't heard about it though. Twitter was targetting teenagers but I wouldn't be surprised if most didn't sign up as many still don't have an account today. If you were older or younger than that age range then I guess it isn't too odd if you didn't know about it but honestly I've seen Twitter heavily advertised everywhere in 2010 it just seems very hard to believe people didn't know about it because it was hard to escape.

No, I never said it was just as popular as Facebook. Facebook was number 1 at the time and Twitter was at 3. It was still popular though just not as popular as Facebook. I'd be surprised if someone between the ages of 13 and 21 in 2010 hasn't heard about it though. Twitter was targeting teenagers but I wouldn't be surprised if most didn't sign up as many still don't have an account today. If you were older or younger than that age range then I guess it isn't too odd if you didn't know about it but honestly I've seen Twitter heavily advertised everywhere in 2010 it just seems very hard to believe people didn't know about it because it was hard to escape.
Well you said that Twitter was the one of the big 3 in 2010 which implied that it was just as huge as FB. I'm just saying that it was normal for anyone not to know what Twitter was during that year. Besides, there were other things like iPhones, Blackberrys, Ipads etc. that were more important than Twitter.

Well you said that Twitter was the one of the big 3 in 2010 which implied that it was just as huge as FB. I'm just saying that it was normal for anyone not to know what Twitter was during that year. Besides, there were other things like iPhones, Blackberrys, Ipads etc. that were more important than Twitter.

It was one of the big 3... Number 1 being Facebook, 2 being YouTube, and 3 being Twitter... How on earth does that imply it is just as big? It just implies that these 3 social networks were the biggest ones at the time and everything else didn't come close to being popular as them. And as I said, I just find it surprising people didn't know about it because I couldn't escape it when I was in high school in 2010 You had people on Facebook posting links to their Twitter page.

Of course this is talking about web Twitter. Maybe you guys are talking about the app Twitter which is used on mobile, which of course didn't become popular until 2012 during the smartphone revolution. But the same goes for Facebook, where the app got popular around 2011-2012. I am talking about the web version, just as Facebook was used on the web there were people who used Twitter on the web too. It didn't get popular on the mobile version until around 2012 though but that is a different story.


Twitter didn't even have a mobile app until 2010, mobile is the platform Twitter gets used the most.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2009/08/twitter-not-so-popular-with-the-young-people/

This is incorrect. Back in the late 2000s/early 2010s, many people didn't have smartphones and used the web version of Twitter (just as people used the web version of Facebook) myself included. People on this forum mentioned how they remember the annoying shut downs due to high traffic on the site. Twitter used to be a website you would go on using your laptop, it wasn't meant to go on mobile originally. It got popular on mobile the same as the others like Facebook did, around 2011-2012 when more people got smartphones. But the web version was used before the mobile version came out.

It was one of the big 3... Number 1 being Facebook, 2 being YouTube, and 3 being Twitter... How on earth does that imply it is just as big? It just implies that these 3 social networks were the biggest ones at the time and everything else didn't come close to being popular as them. And as I said, I just find it surprising people didn't know about it because I couldn't escape it when I was in high school in 2010 You had people on Facebook posting links to their Twitter page.

Of course, this is talking about web Twitter. Maybe you guys are talking about the app Twitter which is used on mobile, which of course didn't become popular until 2012 during the smartphone revolution. But the same goes for Facebook, where the app got popular around 2011-2012. I am talking about the web version, just as Facebook was used on the web there were people who used Twitter on the web too. It didn't get popular on the mobile version until around 2012 though but that is a different story.
Well, very few people are saying that statement. Oh, and no, I'm talking about the site overall. It was normal for the majority not to know what Twitter was in 2010, and that's ok.

Like I said before, I wasn't the only one didn't know about Twitter. My family, friends, and peers didn't know about the site that year either, but they were aware of everything else.

Well, very few people are saying that statement. Oh, and no, I'm talking about the site overall. It was normal for the majority not to know what Twitter was in 2010, and that's ok.

Okay this is where there is a huge disagreement. You really want to make the claim that the majority of people didn't know about Twitter in 2010? When it was odd if you were a teen in 2010 and din't know what Twitter was? NO, the majority did know what Twitter was. In my opinion, if you didn't know what it was in 2010, that is a little odd considering it was part of the big 3 and it was everywhere. And what do you mean very few people?  ??? Are you still forgetting the videos I showed you? Do you see how many views those had and they were uploaded in 2009? I am not sure what you are talking about now... Twitter was a website that was popular in 2010 just like Facebook was a website that was popular in 2010 (not as popular as FB, but still popular). It grew in popularity in the mobile market and peaked in general around 2012 or so. It was popular in 2009/2010, why can't you just admit that? If we were talking about 2008, then I would agree it would be normal for the majority of people not to know what it was. But 2010? You have to have lived under a rock or something. My family from eastern Europe even used Twitter in summer 2010 when I visited them. That should tell you something.... If it made it all the way to eastern Europe, it has made it to the U.S. in 2010.

Well, very few people are saying that statement. Oh, and no, I'm talking about the site overall. It was normal for the majority not to know what Twitter was in 2010, and that's ok.

Like I said before, I wasn't the only one didn't know about Twitter. My family, friends, and peers didn't know about the site that year either, but they were aware of everything else.

Earlier you said I only showed you 3 videos. Well I got more for you. These are all from 2009 and 2010. Are these enough to convince you it was a popular site at the time? One is from David Letterman for crying out loud. And Justin Bieber who was one of the biggest stars in 2010.

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If you are still not convinced, I can post more. In the last video the anchor said "Social media giant"... So if Twitter wasn't popular in 2010, why would he say it was a social media giant then?  ???

Okay, this is where there is a huge disagreement. Do you want to make the claim that the majority of people didn't know about Twitter in 2010? When it was odd if you were a teen in 2010 and didn't know what Twitter was? NO, the majority did know what Twitter was. In my opinion, if you didn't know what it was in 2010, that is a little odd considering it was part of the big 3 and it was everywhere. And what do you mean very few people?  ??? Are you still forgetting the videos I showed you? Do you see how many views those had and they were uploaded in 2009? I am not sure what you are talking about now... Twitter was a website that was popular in 2010 just like Facebook was a website that was popular in 2010 (not as popular as FB, but still popular). It grew in popularity in the mobile market and peaked in general around 2012 or so. It was popular in 2009/2010, why can't you just admit that? If we were talking about 2008, then I would agree it would be normal for the majority of people not to know what it was. But 2010? You have to have lived under a rock or something. My family from eastern Europe even used Twitter in summer 2010 when I visited them. That should tell you something.... If it made it all the way to eastern Europe, it has made it to the U.S. in 2010.
Well, it was normal. All my friends and peers were talking about FB that year, but not Twitter. And by very few people, I mean most didn't say "the big 3". You're forgetting that myspace (although on its last legs) was still mainstream that year.

I'm already aware that desktop sites were still popular in 2010, but I'm just saying that Twitter wasn't one of them.


Earlier you said I only showed you 3 videos. Well, I got more for you. These are all from 2009 and 2010. Are these enough to convince you it was a popular site at the time? One is from David Letterman for crying out loud.

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Nope. Still not convinced. Twitter may have had a presence on the web in 2010, but it wasn't in people's vocabulary like FB at the time.

Well, it was normal. All my friends and peers were talking about FB that year, but not Twitter. And by very few people, I mean most didn't say "the big 3". You're forgetting that myspace (although on its last legs) was still mainstream that year.

MySpace was not mainstream anymore that year. It was dead as a doorknob and I thought we established that. Kids made fun of you if you still had MySpace in 2009, I was a victim to that.


I'm already aware that desktop sites were still popular in 2010, but I'm just saying that Twitter wasn't one of them.
Nope. Still not convinced. Twitter may have had a presence on the web in 2010, but it wasn't in people's vocabulary like FB at the time.

Yes, Twitter was one of them. It was a site people went on very frequently. How can you say Twitter wasn't one of them when it was one of the most visited sites in 2010?

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In this video the anchor said in the beginning "Social media giant"... So if Twitter wasn't popular in 2010, why would he say it was a social media giant then?  ??? Can you explain that to me? Still not convinced it was popular in 2010? The anchor literally said social media giant.

Oh and if Twitter wasn't popular in 2010, why would they make this article back in 2010 about Twitter?
http://www.adweek.com/digital/top-10-most-influential-celebrities-on-twitter-in-2010/

MySpace was not mainstream anymore that year. It was dead as a doorknob and I thought we established that. Kids made fun of you if you still had MySpace in 2009, I was a victim to that.
Yes, Twitter was one of them. It was a site people went on very frequently. How can you say Twitter wasn't one of them when it was one of the most visited sites in 2010?

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In this video, the anchor said in the beginning "Social media giant"... So if Twitter wasn't popular in 2010, why would he say it was a social media giant then?  ??? Can you explain that to me? Still not convinced it was popular in 2010?
Well, not to me, my friends and peers. None of us were made fun of for still having a Myspace. I think that had to do with that you, your friends and peers being in MS when it was very popular. And the site died when it sold to JT, and the layout was changed.

If that was the case, then with the exception of iJustine, why did the rest of Youtube never say anything about Twitter? Why didn't most anchors say anything about Twitter? I'm being honest when I say it was common not to be aware of Twitter in 2010. I'm not denying the presence at all, but come on, this was a thing even when desktops were still in demand.

Well, not to me, my friends and peers. None of us were made fun of for still having a Myspace. I think that had to do with that you, your friends and peers being in MS when it was very popular. And the site died when it sold to JT, and the layout was changed.

If that was the case, then with the exception of iJustine, why did the rest of Youtube never say anything about Twitter? Why didn't most anchors say anything about Twitter? I'm being honest when I say it was common not to be aware of Twitter in 2010. I'm not denying the presence at all, but come on, this was a thing even when desktops were still in demand.

MySpace died long before it was sold to JT... I was on these forums when that happened and everybody was saying "Who cares, nobody uses MySpace anyway" and comments like "Why would he buy it if it is dead". I distinctly remember that on this forum. Everyone was saying how dead it was in 2010.

The rest of YouTubers did mention it... And I will show you another video now. And another video of an anchor as well if you want... (plus IJustine was one of the most popular YouTubers that's why I used her video, but the following video will show you other popular YouTubers had it and mentioned it as well) Hopefully this will convince you.

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Shane Dawnson, popular YouTuber. Does a whole video on it...


Still not convinced when TWO of the most popular Youtubers at the time (IJustine and Shane Dawson) made videos about Twitter in 2009 and 2010? Do you really need more convincing now?

MySpace died long before it was sold to JT... I was on these forums when that happened and everybody was saying "Who cares, nobody uses MySpace anyway" and comments like "Why would he buy it if it is dead". I distinctly remember that on this forum. Everyone was saying how dead it was in 2010.

The rest of YouTubers did mention it... And I will show you another video now. And another video of an anchor as well if you want... (plus IJustine was one of the most popular YouTubers that's why I used her video, but the following video will show you other popular YouTubers had it and mentioned it as well) Hopefully this will convince you.

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Shane Dawnson, popular YouTuber. Does a whole video on it...


Still not convinced when TWO of the most popular Youtubers at the time (IJustine and Shane Dawson) made videos about Twitter in 2009 and 2010? Do you really need more convincing now?
Well it wasn't that dead. It still had the old layout.

No. They didn't. Otherwise, I would have known about Twitter that year, and I watched youtube all the time back then. Oh, and that's just celebrities. I'm talking about the general population. It was common not to know about Twitter in 2009 and 2010. Even some users already posted comments from 2009 saying that it wasn't popular.

No. They didn't. Otherwise, I would have known about Twitter that year, and I watched youtube all the time back then. Oh, and that's just celebrities. I'm talking about the general population. It was common not to know about Twitter in 2009 and 2010. Even some users already posted comments from 2009 saying that it wasn't popular.

Why are you saying they didn't if Shane Dawson and IJustine, two popular YouTubers with a huge amount of traffic in 2010, mentioned it? So yes, YouTubers obviously did mention it and you can't get more popular than these two YouTubers at the time. So I don't know why you think that. I have listed several videos, articles, both on this thread and before showing the popularity of Twitter. I showed you the public did know about Twitter as it was mentioned on CBS (popular media outlet in the U.S.) by popular YouTubers, and articles. So you are wrong on this one and Twitter WAS popular in 2009, I showed you a news story and multiple videos from mainstream media to prove it that the public knew about it.... And what do you mean just celebrities? You can't get Joe from across the street to talk about Twitter on the radio or on the news. Celebrities and the media are what make mainstream culture. There's not much more to say now. You didn't know about it, but most people did and that is pretty evident. And again, not saying it was as popular as it was in 2012 or it peaked, but it was still well-known and popular in 2010.

A 2010 post from me mentioning Twitter.

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=40749.msg2435288#msg2435288

Subject: Re: Are the early 00s dated?

Written By: Brian06 on 06/11/10 at 3:50 pm

Yeah really anything before 2006 is really very dated. Really one of the biggest changes I think was going from 2007 to 2009, we saw bling rap/crunk basically die in favor of more electro styled music, the rise of twitter, Obama's election, the damaging recession, post-grunge dying off, smartphones replace regular cell phones, death of analog broadcasting, etc. We've seen the world change quite a bit in just the last few years really. The early 2000s are way dated, they are 8-10 years ago so things change and it's to be expected.

Why are you saying they didn't if Shane Dawson and IJustine, two popular YouTubers with a huge amount of traffic in 2010, mentioned it? So yes, YouTubers obviously did mention it and you can't get more popular than these two YouTubers at the time. So I don't know why you think that. I have listed several videos, articles, both on this thread and before showing the popularity of Twitter. I showed you the public did know about Twitter as it was mentioned on CBS (popular media outlet in the U.S.) by popular YouTubers, and articles. So you are wrong on this one and Twitter WAS popular in 2009, I showed you a news story and multiple videos from mainstream media to prove it that the public knew about it.... There's not much more to say now. You didn't know about it, but most people did and that is pretty evident. And again, not saying it was as popular as it was in 2012 or it peaked, but it was still well-known and popular in 2010.
I said the rest of youtube. Not those two in particular. Besides, I don't remember most youtubers telling their fans to follow them on Twitter during that year.

The public knew more about iPhones and Ipads than twitter. I'm just saying it was common for people not to know what twitter was. I'm not denying its presence though.


A 2010 post from me mentioning Twitter.

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=40749.msg2435288#msg2435288

Subject: Re: Are the early 00s dated?

Written By: Brian06 on 06/11/10 at 3:50 pm

Yeah really anything before 2006 is really very dated. Really one of the biggest changes I think was going from 2007 to 2009, we saw bling rap/crunk basically die in favor of more electro styled music, the rise of twitter, Obama's election, the damaging recession, post-grunge dying off, smartphones replace regular cell phones, death of analog broadcasting, etc. We've seen the world change quite a bit in just the last few years really. The early 2000s are way dated, they are 8-10 years ago so things change and it's to be expected.
Yeah, you said the rise of Twitter. Slim said it was already well known and popular. That's two different statements. I actually believe you more than him. If he had said the same thing you did, then that would have been fine, but no he's treating Twitter like everyone knew about it when that wasn't the case.

I said the rest of youtube. Not those two in particular. Besides, I don't remember most youtubers telling their fans to follow them on Twitter during that year.

The public knew more about iPhones and Ipads than twitter. I'm just saying it was common for people not to know what twitter was. I'm not denying its presence though.
Yeah, you said the rise of Twitter. Slim said it was already well known and popular. That's two different statements. I actually believe you more than him. If he had said the same thing you did, then that would have been fine, but no he's treating Twitter like everyone knew about it when that wasn't the case.

Two POPULAR youtubers. What do you mean the rest of YouTube? They made up most of YouTube at the time so they pretty much are the rest of YouTube... And yes, I do remember YouTubers saying follow me on Twitter. Not only did I show you news reports and popular YouTubers talking about Twitter, I showed you Justin Bieber, a mega celebrity talking about Twitter and his followers in 2010. What more do you want me to show you? There's nothing left... I showed you the biggest YouTubers (not any random YouTubers) a mega celebrity and news reports. There's nothing left to prove as I proved it all regardless of who you believe, how you feel about me, or what side you take. That is all I can say, it is pretty evident with all the videos I showed you that Twitter WAS popular in 2010, and you will have to accept that.

Yeah, you said the rise of Twitter. Slim said it was already well known and popular. That's two different statements. I actually believe you more than him. If he had said the same thing you did, then that would have been fine, but no he's treating Twitter like everyone knew about it when that wasn't the case.

Yeah because I dressed up as Justin Bieber, hacked into YouTube's system and changed the dates, paid David Letterman to talk about twitter and pretend we are in 2010. Look at me fabricating all this evidence. I am so not trustworthy and "believable"  ::)

Oh and fyi, I never once on this site said Twitter was at its peak in 2010 or anywhere near as popular as it was in 2012 or today. I simply said it was popular, and it would be odd for someone not to know what it was by 2010 (heck even by late 2009).

Both of you guys are sort of right imo. Ultragamedog is probably underestimating it's popularity back then and Slim is likely overestimating it. From my memory Twitter WAS somewhat popular in 2009 and 2010...but it was not as HUGE as it became a few years later. Another example: iPhone 3G was popular in 2008 but not nearly as HUGE as the iPhone 4 in 2010.

Two POPULAR youtubers. What do you mean the rest of YouTube? They made up most of YouTube at the time so they pretty much are the rest of YouTube... And yes, I do remember YouTubers saying follow me on Twitter. Not only did I show you news reports and popular YouTubers talking about Twitter, I showed you Justin Bieber, a mega celebrity talking about Twitter and his followers in 2010. What more do you want me to show you? There's nothing left... I showed you the biggest YouTubers (not any random YouTubers) a mega celebrity and news reports. There's nothing left to prove as I proved it all regardless of who you believe, how you feel about me, or what side you take. That is all I can say, it is pretty evident with all the videos I showed you that Twitter WAS popular in 2010, and you will have to accept that.



Yeah because I dressed up as Justin Bieber, hacked into YouTube's system and changed the dates, paid David Letterman to talk about twitter and pretend we are in 2010. Look at me fabricating all this evidence. I am so not trustworthy and "believable"  ::)

Oh and fyi, I never once on this site said Twitter was at its peak in 2010 or anywhere near as popular as it was in 2012 or today. I simply said it was popular, and it would be odd for someone not to know what it was by 2010 (heck even by late 2009).


That doesn't sound right. What about the rest other users have mentioned? Like I said before, if you would have said that Twitter was rising, that would have been more believable, but you kept saying it was already well known in 2020 which threw me off.


Both of you guys are sort of right imo. Ultragamedog is probably underestimating it's popularity back then and Slim is likely overestimating it. From my memory Twitter WAS somewhat popular in 2009 and 2010...but it was not as HUGE as it became a few years later. Another example: iPhone 3G was popular in 2008 but not nearly as HUGE as the iPhone 4 in 2010.
That's all I was trying to say. I already understand Slim95 said that Twitter was very popular after 2010, but he also stated that the general public knew about it as well at that time when that doesn't seem right. The general population was hooked more on Facebook than twitter in 2010.

MySpace was not mainstream anymore that year. It was dead as a doorknob and I thought we established that. Kids made fun of you if you still had MySpace in 2009, I was a victim to that.
Yes, Twitter was one of them. It was a site people went on very frequently. How can you say Twitter wasn't one of them when it was one of the most visited sites in 2010?

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In this video the anchor said in the beginning "Social media giant"... So if Twitter wasn't popular in 2010, why would he say it was a social media giant then?  ??? Can you explain that to me? Still not convinced it was popular in 2010? The anchor literally said social media giant.

Oh and if Twitter wasn't popular in 2010, why would they make this article back in 2010 about Twitter?
http://www.adweek.com/digital/top-10-most-influential-celebrities-on-twitter-in-2010/

Myspace still had far more active users in 2010 than Twitter. There are statistics from 2009 showing many empty Twitter accounts mostly created by teens and young adults. Further evidence can be seen even from looking at Twitter posts from that time period. It was a very bleak and barren website to be on. Mostly used by celebrities, many of which didn't even follow anyone.


Both of you guys are sort of right imo. Ultragamedog is probably underestimating it's popularity back then and Slim is likely overestimating it. From my memory Twitter WAS somewhat popular in 2009 and 2010...but it was not as HUGE as it became a few years later. Another example: iPhone 3G was popular in 2008 but not nearly as HUGE as the iPhone 4 in 2010.

That's kind of not an accurate analogy. The iPhone was popular, but only a fraction of the worldwide population owned an iPhone in 2010 than a BlackBerry or a Motorola Razr. PDAs and pocket computers were popular in the late 90s and you'll see them alot in media from that era. However, the late 90s is no longer associated with the popularity of mobile devices.

As for Myspace, the reason I don't agree that it died in 2010 is that there were millions of people still using it despite the huge transition to FB; the old layout was still intact, and the site was still in the original owner's hands. It wasn't until 2011 when Myspace was sold to JT, and then the layout was changed to the current one it where it was finally dead.

People measure a website's relevance like they measure a nation's economy. If there is a slight decline in users on a popular social media site, people declare that site "dead". If there is continuous growth in a relatively unknown social media site, people act like the new, unpopular site is now more popular than the declining social media giant. It's like saying Singapore replaced the US as the new economic giant during the great recession.


Yes really. So did you ignore my Chris Brown video? IJustine video? How can you deny it wasn't popular if celebrities were talking about it in 2009? And the media hype of Michael Jackson's death in June 2009? Why do you keep sayong Twitter wasn't popular in 2009 when it was? I just don't understand some of you people on here it is as if you guys lived under a rock in '09 or something. Just because it was more popular after 2011, DOES NOT mean it wasn't popular in 2009/2010. It was well known and the 3 videos I showed you proves that. Please tell me why you keep denying it?

iJustine? You mean the time traveling bigwig youtuber that adopts extremely niche technology before even big internet companies do?

iJustine, a then small youtuber, vlogged all her videos in HD in 2009. Other bigger internet celebrities, backed by major corporations with millions of dollars pumped into their shows, such as the Angry Video Game Nerd, Classic Game Room, Nigahiga, Smosh, Fred, Angry Joe, College Humor, Vevo, and even the great tech news site IGN all couldn't even afford to shoot their videos in HD at the time. iJustine is hardly representative of what was popular in the late 00s/early 2010s. She's probably Vlogging in 8K resolution right now as we speak.

2009 is the last year of the 00's.  :P

Myspace still had far more active users in 2010 than Twitter. There are statistics from 2009 showing many empty Twitter accounts mostly created by teens and young adults. Further evidence can be seen even from looking at Twitter posts from that time period. It was a very bleak and barren website to be on. Mostly used by celebrities, many of which didn't even follow anyone.

Yeah that's because nobody wanted to open Twitter accounts... It was still popular, there just wasn't any point in making your own account because you can easily use the website to follow celebrities without having your own account. So it doesn't mean it wasn't popular, it's just the app that got created later on made more people open accounts. The amount of users with accounts is not accurate in measuring popularity. I personally did create my account back then but never used it (maybe just for retweets sometimes). I just logged on to Twitter, searched my favourite pages and see what famous people were doing. The point is it was talked about a lot and popular.

I'm not gonna say anything about twitter cuz I made a twitter account back in 2011 or 12 and never used it again.

However, I will agree that Myspace was relatively "over" by 2009. A lot of people had moved on to facebook. Speaking of...when is Facebook ending. I keep seeing people writing obituaries for it but it keeps on chugging and growing.