I feel like 2017 is a year of recovery from the craziness of 2016. Things feel very stagnant and bland now which makes me think some new and exciting things are on the horizon for next year. Maybe 2018 will be a transitional year and we will see some stuff that the early '20s may bring? I think it will be a good year for culture and music to improve because right now, I don't think 2017 has much of an identity. I think 2018 will be a year that will have an identity and it will establish itself quite well. I predict a couple early 2000s throwbacks but also an increase in political parody culture which should be entertaining seeing parodies of Donald Trump. This may lighten the mood and I hope the tension dies down next year. But yeah I just want some new trends to come in 2018 and pop culture to be a little more fun. I know this doesn't happen overnight, but I'm hoping 2018 will be a better year for pop culture and I hope some changes come soon.  :)

We're not even half through 2017 yet.

2017 has been an excellent year for movies so far!

"I feel like 2017 is a year of recovery from the craziness of 2016. Things feel very stagnant and bland now which makes me think some new and exciting things are on the horizon for next year."

You're absolutely right about that. The protests, destruction, chaos, tantrums, and backlash from Hollywood and the far left has died down quite a lot. I actually thought it would take longer for society to adapt, and the madness to fizzle out.  :)

"Maybe 2018 will be a transitional year and we will see some stuff that the early '20s may bring? I think it will be a good year for culture and music to improve because right now, I don't think 2017 has much of an identity."

There's already a transition right now in 2017. A 00's revival is underway and the stupid Lumbersexual/Grunge-Revival/Hipster-Yuppie look is on its way out.

"I think 2018 will be a year that will have an identity and it will establish itself quite well. I predict a couple early 2000s throwbacks"

Slim Shady hair, baggy pants, and Nike suits are making comeback -- All part of the 00's revival encouraged by politics.

"but also an increase in political parody culture which should be entertaining seeing parodies of Donald Trump. This may lighten the mood and I hope the tension dies down next year."

Donald Trump jokes and parodies were huge (yuge) last year because the left didn't think he'd actually win the presidency.

"But yeah I just want some new trends to come in 2018 and pop culture to be a little more fun. I know this doesn't happen overnight, but I'm hoping 2018 will be a better year for pop culture and I hope some changes come soon.  :)"

Changes have already happened as soon as Trump won the election. But I think Pop music and Pop culture won't change much until the Early 2020's.

Aside from politics, just about everything for the most part is still very Mid 2010's-ish. I remember 00's culture in general didn't officially wear off until 2012. So I think 2022 will be very different from 2017.

2018 will be the same as this year. Or should I say this decade.

I feel like 2017 is a year of recovery from the craziness of 2016. Things feel very stagnant and bland now which makes me think some new and exciting things are on the horizon for next year. Maybe 2018 will be a transitional year and we will see some stuff that the early '20s may bring? I think it will be a good year for culture and music to improve because right now, I don't think 2017 has much of an identity. I think 2018 will be a year that will have an identity and it will establish itself quite well. I predict a couple early 2000s throwbacks but also an increase in political parody culture which should be entertaining seeing parodies of Donald Trump. This may lighten the mood and I hope the tension dies down next year. But yeah I just want some new trends to come in 2018 and pop culture to be a little more fun. I know this doesn't happen overnight, but I'm hoping 2018 will be a better year for pop culture and I hope some changes come soon.  :)


Maybe it'll be another '2008'. Without the economic crash, of course.  :P

Maybe it'll be another '2008'. Without the economic crash, of course.  :P

That's what I've been thinking for a while now.

I don't think 2018 will be much different from now, IMO.

I'm liking 2017 so far, but if 2018 can finish the Chainsmokers then I'll be happy.

Bro what are you talking about? The Chainsmokers are litaf.

Bro what are you talking about? The Chainsmokers are litaf.


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Naw fam now u ratchetaf. listen to 21 pilots they're baeaf.

2018 will be the same as this year. Or should I say this decade.

I hope not!


But I think Pop music and Pop culture won't change much until the Early 2020's.

I think people are getting bored of current trends. There has to be some changes, because I don't know how people can handle the same stuff for much longer. Especially if we have to wait until 2020.


I don't think 2018 will be much different from now, IMO.

How come? When do you think change will come? I predict the 2018 -2019 year will be very changeful, and 2018 will be a transitional year. I think 2019 will look very different compared to now.

It really doesn't matter, seeing as I cannot fully enjoy popular culture until I find love, which is pretty elusive in a world where most lesbians are either queer subculture conformists or hot shows for heterosexual men.

How come? When do you think change will come? I predict the 2018 -2019 year will be very changeful, and 2018 will be a transitional year. I think 2019 will look very different compared to now.

We are heading into a more uniform world with the rise of digital and social media (we're already there in some ways). 2018 won't be drastically different from now. I don't know when a change will come but something big has to cause that change.

We are heading into a more uniform world with the rise of digital and social media (we're already there in some ways). 2018 won't be drastically different from now. I don't know when a change will come but some big has to cause that change.


I'm not shocked. Excluding too much detail, a person from the future could put the 90's, 00's, and 10's, together, fashion wise.

I'm not shocked. Excluding too much detail, a person from the future could put the 90's, 00's, and 10's, together, fashion wise.

Yeah, I could see that.

Yeah, I could see that.


Of course nothing is 100% sure. Maybe there will be a huge shift in 2025, or whatever, and the 90's, 00's, and 10's, will look 'ancient' in a sense!  :o

Of course nothing is 100% sure. Maybe there will be a huge shift in 2025, or whatever, and the 90's, 00's, and 10's, will look 'ancient' in a sense!  :o

Yeah that's what I said at the end of my original comment..."I don't know when a change will come but something big has to cause that change."

Of course nothing is 100% sure. Maybe there will be a huge shift in 2025, or whatever, and the 90's, 00's, and 10's, will look 'ancient' in a sense!  :o
ReignMan99 is right that something big has to happen in order to cause a shift. And 90sbreath here is right on the money about 2025.  :D Although I think the next big shift won't happen until the 2020 election...  ;)

Unless another major, shocking, controversial artist/group comes along -- like Nirvana, the NWA, and Kid 'n Play in the Late 80's, Britney Spears, 'N Sync and TBSB in the Late 90's, and Bieber in 2009.

Yep. We're still waiting for the next big thing, the next big fad, as we enter the Summer of 2017... Waiting on the world to change...

ReignMan99 is right that something big has to happen in order to cause a shift. And 90sbreath here is right on the money about 2025.  :D Although I think the next big shift won't happen until the 2020 election...  ;)

Unless another major, shocking, controversial artist/group comes along -- like Nirvana, NWA, and Kid 'n Play in the Late 80's, Britney Spears, 'NSYNC and TBSB in the Late 90's, and Bieber in 2009.

Yep. We're still waiting for the next big thing, the next big fad, as we enter the Summer of 2017... Waiting on the world to change...


Lady Gaga was the game-changing artist of 2009 moreso than Bieber in my opinion.

Lady Gaga was the game-changing artist of 2009 moreso than Bieber in my opinion.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention Lady Gaga.

I doubt there will be anything very interesting, just more stupid revival crap 8-P, when I think towards the later '70s like 1977, 1978 there was much innovative developments going on. The beginning of hip-hop music/culture, punk merging with disco and dub reggae creating post-punk, Giorgio Moroder making the futuristic disco jam "I Feel Love".

Around 1987, 1988 was the golden age hip-hop, with fresh, creative use of sampled beats, acid house was the new, exciting futuristic dance style, dark industrial music, alternative rock was coming into the mainstream. Hard to imagine this music existing even 10 years prior.

Heck even around 1997 Timbaland was bringing R&B into the future with his jittering, minimalist beats, 2 step garage, glitch techno, big beat, ect.

There's nothing like that going on today, trap is old as hell, 16-17 years old, the 2000-present period is the most bland, stagnant, uninspired time in pop culture since the beginning of the 20th century.

Revival this, revival that, '00s revival, ect that's what gets most people in these threads excited, I yearn for novelty, I want something very new, I want "Future Shock".

ReignMan99 is right that something big has to happen in order to cause a shift. And 90sbreath here is right on the money about 2025.  :D Although I think the next big shift won't happen until the 2020 election...  ;)

Unless another major, shocking, controversial artist/group comes along -- like Nirvana, the NWA, and Kid 'n Play in the Late 80's, Britney Spears, 'N Sync and TBSB in the Late 90's, and Bieber in 2009.

Yep. We're still waiting for the next big thing, the next big fad, as we enter the Summer of 2017... Waiting on the world to change...


I always felt that Eminem and Britney Spears kind of brought 00's music around the corner, but that's just me!  ;)

Yeah that's what I said at the end of my original comment..."I don't know when a change will come but something big has to cause that change."


I agree.

I doubt there will be anything very interesting, just more stupid revival crap 8-P, when I think towards the later '70s like 1977, 1978 there was much innovative developments going on. The beginning of hip-hop music/culture, punk merging with disco and dub reggae creating post-punk, Giorgio Moroder making the futuristic disco jam "I Feel Love".

Around 1987, 1988 was the golden age hip-hop, with fresh, creative use of sampled beats, acid house was the new, exciting futuristic dance style, dark industrial music, alternative rock was coming into the mainstream. Hard to imagine this music existing even 10 years prior.

Heck even around 1997 Timbaland was bringing R&B into the future with his jittering, minimalist beats, 2 step garage, glitch techno, big beat, ect.

There's nothing like that going on today, trap is old as hell, 16-17 years old, the 2000-present period is the most bland, stagnant, uninspired time in pop culture since the beginning of the 20th century.

Revival this, revival that, '00s revival, ect that's what gets most people in these threads excited, I yearn for novelty, I want something very new, I want "Future Shock".

Yeah that's true. It's kind of sad if you think about it, that we may never have the same cultural transformations of the late 20th century. But I'll still keep my hopes up. I also want something new and fresh, I'm sick of the revivals.

I always felt that Eminem and Britney Spears kind of brought 00's music around the corner, but that's just me!  ;)


I think Timbaland was the biggest progenitor of 2000s music because even his early stuff from 1996 and 1997 like "If Your Girl Only Knew," "What About Us," and "Can We" sounds more stylistically 00s than 90s.

I think Timbaland was the biggest progenitor of 2000s music because even his early stuff from 1996 and 1997 like "If Your Girl Only Knew," "What About Us," and "Can We" sounds more stylistically 00s than 90s.


I do remember there was a huge shift in music in 1997 too. R&B.

I doubt there will be anything very interesting, just more stupid revival crap 8-P, when I think towards the later '70s like 1977, 1978 there was much innovative developments going on. The beginning of hip-hop music/culture, punk merging with disco and dub reggae creating post-punk, Giorgio Moroder making the futuristic disco jam "I Feel Love".

Around 1987, 1988 was the golden age hip-hop, with fresh, creative use of sampled beats, acid house was the new, exciting futuristic dance style, dark industrial music, alternative rock was coming into the mainstream. Hard to imagine this music existing even 10 years prior.

Heck even around 1997 Timbaland was bringing R&B into the future with his jittering, minimalist beats, 2 step garage, glitch techno, big beat, ect.

There's nothing like that going on today, trap is old as hell, 16-17 years old, the 2000-present period is the most bland, stagnant, uninspired time in pop culture since the beginning of the 20th century.

Revival this, revival that, '00s revival, ect that's what gets most people in these threads excited, I yearn for novelty, I want something very new, I want "Future Shock".
You're right. As much as I'd love to go back in time to the 00's and beyond, we're in need of something completely new at this point. All it takes is one person to bring about change...

Although I'll have to disagree with what you said about the 00's. Imo, that was the last good, innovative decade for Pop culture. What about Emo, Crunk, Juke music, early Soulja Boy, Ed Hardy apparel...

I'll turn 18 next year.  :-X  :-X

I'll turn 18 next year.  :-X  :-X


So will Y2K  :o

So will Y2K  :o


Hey, weren't you one of the actors in that Pokemon movie, in 2000?

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Hey, weren't you one of the actors in that Pokemon movie, in 2000?


No, that was my grandpa!

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"I feel like 2017 is a year of recovery from the craziness of 2016. Things feel very stagnant and bland now which makes me think some new and exciting things are on the horizon for next year."

You're absolutely right about that. The protests, destruction, chaos, tantrums, and backlash from Hollywood and the far left has died down quite a lot. I actually thought it would take longer for society to adapt, and the madness to fizzle out.  :)

"Maybe 2018 will be a transitional year and we will see some stuff that the early '20s may bring? I think it will be a good year for culture and music to improve because right now, I don't think 2017 has much of an identity."

There's already a transition right now in 2017. A 00's revival is underway and the stupid Lumbersexual/Grunge-Revival/Hipster-Yuppie look is on its way out.

"I think 2018 will be a year that will have an identity and it will establish itself quite well. I predict a couple early 2000s throwbacks"

Slim Shady hair, baggy pants, and Nike suits are making comeback -- All part of the 00's revival encouraged by politics.

"but also an increase in political parody culture which should be entertaining seeing parodies of Donald Trump. This may lighten the mood and I hope the tension dies down next year."

Donald Trump jokes and parodies were huge (yuge) last year because the left didn't think he'd actually win the presidency.

"But yeah I just want some new trends to come in 2018 and pop culture to be a little more fun. I know this doesn't happen overnight, but I'm hoping 2018 will be a better year for pop culture and I hope some changes come soon.  :)"

Changes have already happened as soon as Trump won the election. But I think Pop music and Pop culture won't change much until the Early 2020's.

Aside from politics, just about everything for the most part is still very Mid 2010's-ish. I remember 00's culture in general didn't officially wear off until 2012. So I think 2022 will be very different from 2017.


Trump's approval rating is in the 30s and the Comey testimony is tomorrow.  ;D

Yeah that's true. It's kind of sad if you think about it, that we may never have the same cultural transformations of the late 20th century.


I couldn't even begin to imagine how people who truly experienced the late 20th Century must feel about the current state of pop culture. I know that we are aware of it's gradual decline, but we didn't experience the 70s & 80s, and we were too young to truly experience the 90s. Even though we can compare the differences between how popular culture was then to how it is now, we never experienced a time when popular culture was as creative and innovative as it was in the Late 20th Century. I know that it's entirely subjective, but in my opinion, it is quite obvious that popular culture has drastically declined since the turn of the century.

Trump's approval rating is in the 30s and the Comey testimony is tomorrow.  ;D


;D ;D ;D

Laugh while you can, he'll still win in 2020 with those numbers.  :-X


I couldn't even begin to imagine how people who truly experienced the late 20th Century must feel about the current state of pop culture. I know that we are aware of it's gradual decline, but we didn't experience the 70s & 80s, and we were too young to truly experience the 90s. Even though we can compare the differences between how popular culture was then to how it is now, we never experienced a time when popular culture was as creative and innovative as it was in the Late 20th Century. I know that it's entirely subjective, but in my opinion, it is quite obvious that popular culture has drastically declined since the turn of the century.


That's a very bleak assessment.  :( I'm not sure I agree with it. There's millions of songs released every year, and enough of them are gems to last you a lifetime.

I'll turn 18 next year.  :-X  :-X


I'll be 44.

I'll turn 18 next year.  :-X  :-X


I'll be turning 19 in March 2018. Guess that means that I will be older than you. :P

I'll be 44.



I'll be turning 19 in March 2018. Guess that means that I will be older than you. :P

This is hilarious. 90sBreath is joking....he was born in 1988 (specifically, November 29, 1988). He will turn 30 next year ;D ;D ;D.

This is hilarious. 90sBreath is joking....he was born in 1988 (specifically, November 29, 1988). He will turn 30 next year ;D ;D ;D.


I know, hence the :P in my original post.

I know, hence the :P in my original post.

I was just making sure (and Howard seemed to fall for it ;D).

I was just making sure (and Howard seemed to fall for it ;D).


I always do.  ;D

I'll be 44.

I'll be turning 23.

Naw fam now u ratchetaf. listen to 21 pilots they're baeaf.


boi y u dissin? 21pilots naw b i aint listening 2 dat NAAAOOOWWW WURRRR STTTTTWWWEESSSSSSSSS OWWWWWW naaawwww

;D ;D ;D

Laugh while you can, he'll still win in 2020 with those numbers.  :-X



Maybe he will. If America wants to continue to be screwed over by senile, NYC mobster type grifter, then it gets what it deserves.

Maybe he will. If America wants to continue to be screwed over by senile, NYC mobster type grifter, then it gets what it deserves.


As a native New Yorker, I really disagree with that statement. Not even an actual mobster (as in one who worked with the mafia) could defend Trump. Trump is just a bastardized businessmen who has been drifting towards different political parties for his entire adult life.

I'm not wanted

I'm not wanted


Trust me. There are people out there that want you. It's whether or not you want them is the question.  8)

Trust me. There are people out there that want you. It's whether or not you want them is the question.  8)


I think she wants a girl that doesn't make them feel annoyed or unwanted. That's why she feels alone (at least to my knowledge).

You're right. As much as I'd love to go back in time to the 00's and beyond, we're in need of something completely new at this point. All it takes is one person to bring about change...

Although I'll have to disagree with what you said about the 00's. Imo, that was the last good, innovative decade for Pop culture. What about Emo, Crunk, Juke music, early Soulja Boy, Ed Hardy apparel...


Emo dates back to the mid '80s and crunk to the late '90s but when crunk first broke out around 2003 it did seem fresh, it took longer to notice this stagnation in rap/R&B. Footwork/juke is the genre that should be popular NOW, not this stupid sound all the same trap crap ;D, this music is so weird I don't know if regular top 40 listeners will get it.

Around 2010, 2011 dubstep and the gnarlier elements of EDM is what I thought the 2010s would further develop but that faded from the mainstream very quickly.

I think she wants a girl that doesn't make them feel annoyed or unwanted. That's why she feels alone (at least to my knowledge).


I just want my heart to have a home. I'll always think something's horribly awful about me as long as I can't find romance in any form.

Emo dates back to the mid '80s and crunk to the late '90s but when crunk first broke out around 2003 it did seem fresh, it took longer to notice this stagnation in rap/R&B. Footwork/juke is the genre that should be popular NOW, not this stupid sound all the same trap crap ;D, this music is so weird I don't know if regular top 40 listeners will get it.

Around 2010, 2011 dubstep and the gnarlier elements of EDM is what I thought the 2010s would further develop but that faded from the mainstream very quickly.


This is the truth. The first emo records came out in 1985.

I don't think 2018 will be much different from now, IMO.


In a way, it will be similar to 2017 (a late '10s year), and it will be another that more shows and trends that define the 2020s will be around. The latter end of 2018 will be a lot closer to 2020 than 2017 like 1988 was to 1990.

Every decade seems to be a two (or three) parter. And the culture never fits neat into each decade. I'm starting to realize some of these debates (even ones I took part in) are kinda ridiculous.

In a way, it will be similar to 2017 (a late '10s year), and it will be another that more shows and trends that define the 2020s will be around. The latter end of 2018 will be a lot closer to 2020 than 2017 like 1988 was to 1990.

Yeah I agree. I have a feeling in fall of 2018 there will be big changes coming. Plus the series finale of Game of Thrones will be in 2018 too.

1988 was a good year. 8)

1988 was a good year. 8)


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What? 1988 was excellent! ???

boi y u dissin? 21pilots naw b i aint listening 2 dat NAAAOOOWWW WURRRR STTTTTWWWEESSSSSSSSS OWWWWWW naaawwww


Delete your account 👏

Delete your account 👏


Says you. Do you even listen to Ke$ha? I bet not. 21 Pilots over Ke$ha!? Ha! ::)

Says you. Do you even listen to Ke$ha? I bet not. 21 Pilots over Ke$ha!? Ha! ::)


Who's Kesha? I don't know her.

Maybe he will. If America wants to continue to be screwed over by senile, NYC mobster type grifter, then it gets what it deserves.
Oh, we're being screwed over, huh? Yeah, keeping the peace with Russia and preventing wars is certainly screwing our country over... (Not.) Cut him some slack. Would you rather have Hillary in office? Our country would've been screwed over for sure.

What? 1988 was excellent! ???


It is, but it's not 2018.  ;)  :D  :D

Oh, we're being screwed over, huh? Yeah, keeping the peace with Russia and preventing wars is certainly screwing our country over... (Not.) Cut him some slack. Would you rather have Hillary in office? Our country would've been screwed over for sure.


BUT WAR IS GOOD!!!! WAR MAKES MONEY!!!! MONEY MAKES THE WORLD GO ROUND!!!! GOD MONEY, I'LL DO ANYTHING FOR YOU!!!!

Who's Kesha? I don't know her.


Dissing Ke$ha now, too? Really? Ke$ha is a genius songwriter but I wouldn't expect you to understand her talent. ::)


It is, but it's not 2018.  ;)  :D  :D


2018 won't be as good as the legendary 1988! 8)

It is, but it's not 2018.  ;)  :D  :D

Nobody said it will be good. It was simply a hunch that things may improve a bit... Sorry I'm not sure if this was a sarcastic slam or trolling attempt. Either way I was just trying to spread some optimism, which is something the world needs in this awful time of pop culture and violent political climate.

Oh, we're being screwed over, huh? Yeah, keeping the peace with Russia and preventing wars is certainly screwing our country over... (Not.) Cut him some slack. Would you rather have Hillary in office? Our country would've been screwed over for sure.

1. Hillary Clinton wanting war with Russia is a false and foolish right wing conspiracy.

2. I would rather have Hillary in office a trillion times over Trump.

1. Hillary Clinton wanting war is Russia is a false and foolish right wing conspiracy.

2. I would rather have Hillary in office a trillion times over Trump.

Yeah I think Hillary Clinton is better than Trump, but she is still a corrupt politician. But pretty much every politician is corrupt.

Yeah I think Hillary Clinton is better than Trump, but she is still a corrupt politician. But pretty much every politician is corrupt.

Made a typo...I meant wanting war WITH Russia.

Anyways, yeah...you're correct (even though I will say that many politicians are corrupt but not all).

I'd give almost anything for pop culture to go back to the optimistic/upbeat vibe again. Things can't be all cynical/pessimistic forever, right?

I'd give almost anything for pop culture to go back to the optimistic/upbeat vibe again. Things can't be all cynical/pessimistic forever, right?
I'm with you on that one. 2011/2012 had it right when Dubstep was mainstream. In 2011/2012, mainstream Pop music had upbeat Dubstep/Synth songs like "Gucci Gucci", "Sexy And I Know It", "Levels", "Let's Go", "Deer in the Headlights", "It's Always a Good Time", "I Feel So Close To You Right Now", "Mr. Saxobeat", "Titanium", "Without You", "Gangnam Style", "Cinema", "Midnight City"... I actually liked the majority of modern Pop music back then. (Just as long as it wasn't 'sleazy'...)

2013 was the last good year for Pop/Pop-Rap: "What Does The Fox Say", "Suit and Tie", "Mirrors", Get Lucky", "Rap God", "Holy Grail", "Tom Ford"...

After 2013, Pop, for the most part, took a low-key, Bubble Gum Pop-ish direction. But Rap (IMO) improved tremendously in the Mid 2010's with Trap Music.

I'm with you on that one. 2011/2012 had it right when Dubstep was mainstream. In 2011/2012, mainstream Pop music had upbeat Dubstep/Synth songs like "Gucci Gucci", "Sexy And I Know It", "Levels", "Let's Go", "Deer in the Headlights", "It's Always a Good Time", "I Feel So Close To You Right Now", "Mr. Saxobeat", "Titanium", "Without You", "Gangnam Style", "Cinema", "Midnight City"... I actually liked the majority of modern Pop music back then. (Just as long as it wasn't 'sleazy'...)

2013 was the last good year for Pop/Pop-Rap: "What Does The Fox Say", "Suit and Tie", "Mirrors", Get Lucky", "Rap God", "Holy Grail", "Tom Ford"...

After 2013, Pop, for the most part, took a low-key, Bubble Gum Pop-ish direction. But Rap (IMO) improved tremendously in the Mid 2010's with Trap Music.


Well the fact that the early 2010s had a bit of an upbeat vibe in pop culture does prove that optimistic/upbeat eras are gonna happen whether we know it or not. And nearly every decade has these eras due to innovation and discoveries.

Isn't there a teen pop thing every late part of most decades??  :( 

Isn't there a teen pop thing every late part of most decades??  :(


Well, teens have been obsessed with Drake, Justin Bieber, and any rapper since the early 2010s. Does that count?

To those who don't think much will change until the early '20s, I thought about this and maybe it will be a case like the 1980s? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 1980s culture didn't fully die out until 1991 right? Maybe this will be the same case as the 2010s. Maybe we won't have a big shift and just a few gradual changes here and there and then a big shift will happen in like 2021 (just in time for the inauguration of the president who gets elected), and then the new '20s culture will pop up then? Of course we can't accurately predict the future, but the more I think about this the more I can see this as being a good possibility for what will happen.

To those who don't think much will change until the early '20s, I thought about this and maybe it will be a case like the 1980s? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 1980s culture didn't fully die out until 1991 right? Maybe this will be the same case as the 2010s. Maybe we won't have a big shift and just a few gradual changes here and there and then a big shift will happen in like 2021 (just in time for the inauguration of the president who gets elected), and then the new '20s culture will pop up then? Of course we can't accurately predict the future, but the more I think about this the more I can see this as being a good possibility for what will happen.

Yeah, I basically agree.

To those who don't think much will change until the early '20s, I thought about this and maybe it will be a case like the 1980s? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 1980s culture didn't fully die out until 1991 right? Maybe this will be the same case as the 2010s. Maybe we won't have a big shift and just a few gradual changes here and there and then a big shift will happen in like 2021 (just in time for the inauguration of the president who gets elected), and then the new '20s culture will pop up then? Of course we can't accurately predict the future, but the more I think about this the more I can see this as being a good possibility for what will happen.


The 2010s is like the 1980s in terms of pop cultural consistency. And gradual pop cultural changes are hard to notice until hindsight. But I suspect the transistion from 10's culture to 20's to be between 2017 to 2021. Already go people saying that 2017 feels like the last "Hurrah" for 2010's culture. I can see trends in pop culture fading as people get tired of them and want something new. Maybe 2020's pop culture will be a reaction towards 2010's pop culture.

The 2010s is like the 1980s in terms of pop cultural consistency. And gradual pop cultural changes are hard to notice until hindsight. But I suspect the transistion from 10's culture to 20's to be between 2017 to 2021. Already go people saying that 2017 feels like the last "Hurrah" for 2010's culture. I can see trends in pop culture fading as people get tired of them and want something new. Maybe 2020's pop culture will be a reaction towards 2010's pop culture.


You might be right here.  However, there was a notable shift around 2013.

I usually compare the 2010s to the 1960s and I think there are quite a few parallels.  If parallels to the '60s hold for the rest of the decade, another notable shift should occur in sometime between now and 2019 and that culture will last into the early '20s.  I would really like to see pop culture take advantage of the Trump era.  It would be nice to have pop music again that really captures the zeitgeist of this time, instead of generic Ariana Grande garbage.

You might be right here.  However, there was a notable shift around 2013.

I usually compare the 2010s to the 1960s and I think there are quite a few parallels.  If parallels to the '60s hold for the rest of the decade, another notable shift should occur in sometime between now and 2019 and that culture will last into the early '20s.  I would really like to see pop culture take advantage of the Trump era.  It would be nice to have pop music again that really captures the zeitgeist of this time, instead of generic Ariana Grande garbage.


I can see late 10s/early 20s pop culture being a reaction towards Donald Trump which I will admit would be interesting. 2017 feels like the 2010's pop culture is starting to exhaust itself as a lot of things now feel played out and tired (at least to me anyways, but then again I'm not good at explaining pop culture) which is why I'm curious to see how 2018-2021 will be in terms of culture.

I can see late 10s/early 20s pop culture being a reaction towards Donald Trump which I will admit would be interesting. 2017 feels like the 2010's pop culture is starting to exhaust itself as a lot of things now feel played out and tired (at least to me anyways, but then again I'm not good at explaining pop culture) which is why I'm curious to see how 2018-2021 will be in terms of culture.
Leftist Trump jokes and parodies were mainly popular from 2015 to 2016 until his inauguration because they didn't think he'd actually win the presidency. It seemed hilariously absurd to them at the time. Now the joke's on them, and the salty left is tired of hearing about Trump and politics. 2017 will probably be the last year for Trump-humor, (except from SNL, The Tonight Show, etc..) as society adapts to the Trump Era.

You're right that 2010's Pop culture and trends are fizzling out. (Especially Hipsterdom) But I don't think trends in general will be all that much different until 2021 - 2023, unless someone/something new and shocking comes along before that time period. By 2024, when new trends have arrived and the 2020's defines itself, the 2010's will look ancient, and our musical style & fashion trends would be a long-gone laughing stock. Like how the trends Emo, Scene, Goth, Punk, and Gangsta are to most people in 2017.

The 2010s is like the 1980s in terms of pop cultural consistency. And gradual pop cultural changes are hard to notice until hindsight.

I agree. It does remind me of the '80s a lot in terms of consistency. So it wouldn't surprise if we see a shift into next decade's culture in the early '20s.


You might be right here.  However, there was a notable shift around 2013.

There was a shift but it wasn't extreme. For the most part this decade has been very consistent like the '80s. This makes me think next decade will be full of changes.


By 2024, when new trends have arrived and the 2020's defines itself, the 2010's will look ancient, and our musical style & fashion trends would be a long-gone laughing stock. Like how the trends Emo, Scene, Goth, Punk, and Gangsta are to most people in 2017.

Yeah I think there will be a lot of 2010s backlash in the 2020s. I too believe that 2024 will look extremely different and the trends we have today will look pretty ancient.

To those who don't think much will change until the early '20s, I thought about this and maybe it will be a case like the 1980s? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 1980s culture didn't fully die out until 1991 right? Maybe this will be the same case as the 2010s. Maybe we won't have a big shift and just a few gradual changes here and there and then a big shift will happen in like 2021 (just in time for the inauguration of the president who gets elected), and then the new '20s culture will pop up then? Of course we can't accurately predict the future, but the more I think about this the more I can see this as being a good possibility for what will happen.


I often wonder when the 1920's came into itself, culturally, and as a decade. That would be interesting, indeed. Some here, have made hints that the 1920's started showing roughly 1919. But it wasn't fully the 1920's yet!

I often wonder when the 1920's came into itself, culturally, and as a decade. That would be interesting, indeed. Some here, have made hints that the 1920's started showing roughly 1919. But it wasn't fully the 1920's yet!

You're trolling again, aren't you? If you don't like this thread you don't have to post. Stop trolling and posting these weird sarcastic responses. As I said, it's fun predicting when culture will change. If it isn't fun for you, then don't post. If you are serious then I apologize. I find it difficult to figure out who is serious and who is being sarcastic online these days. But given you're previous sarcastic remarks about 2018 and what it will be like, I am leaning towards thinking you are trolling, and I don't appreciate that.

2018 will be my 19th year of life on Earth and I hope it will be a good year. I'm looking forward to some movies, video games and TV shows coming out next year. Also, I can't wait to vote in the 2018 midterm elections.

1988 was a good year. 8)



It sure was.

Apparently Avatar 2 is coming out next year. That should also be pretty cool to see, but I have a feeling it won't be anywhere near as successful as the first one. The new Han Solo movie should be cool too in 2018.

Apparently Avatar 2 is coming out next year. That should also be pretty cool to see, but I have a feeling it won't be anywhere near as successful as the first one. The new Han Solo movie should be cool too in 2018.


I agree.  Avatar was the right movie for the right time, both in the plot and the special effects.  People aren't wowed by 3D CGI anymore like they were in 2009.  I think Avatar 2 will have a difficult time being anywhere close to as successful as the first one.

I am also concerned about Star Wars fatigue.  Getting a new trilogy is great, but I think they are in danger of over-exploiting it.

Yeah I think Hillary Clinton is better than Trump, but she is still a corrupt politician. But pretty much every politician is corrupt.


That's because people are corrupt.

But, yeah. Hillary at the very least wouldn't be an embarrassing clown. Unfortunately, we've come to realize that Trump can get away with pretty much anything. He could send every Muslim to a concentration camp and most Trump supporters would say "but we gotta protect our country...besides, Hillary would have nuked the planet by now, so she would have been worse!" No matter how terrible Trump gets, they'll imagine how worse Hillary could have been and make excuses for the man.

I highly doubt Trump can win again with the majority of the vote in 2020 and I'm convinced this country will finally proceed to tear itself apart after electing a president without the majority vote two times in a row.

I agree.  Avatar was the right movie for the right time, both in the plot and the special effects.  People aren't wowed by 3D CGI anymore like they were in 2009.  I think Avatar 2 will have a difficult time being anywhere close to as successful as the first one.

Yeah they would have to make the effects twice as impressive as they were in 2009, and I just don't see that happening.

You're trolling again, aren't you? If you don't like this thread you don't have to post. Stop trolling and posting these weird sarcastic responses. As I said, it's fun predicting when culture will change. If it isn't fun for you, then don't post. If you are serious then I apologize. I find it difficult to figure out who is serious and who is being sarcastic online these days. But given you're previous sarcastic remarks about 2018 and what it will be like, I am leaning towards thinking you are trolling, and I don't appreciate that.


No, I wasn't being sarcastic/trolling. I meant that perhaps if we can figure out the 1920's, we can figure out how he 2020's will crystallize. I just forgot to mention it overtly.

I rarely am sarcastic online, because it rarely translates online, especially social media.

I probably do unconsciously (and consciously) troll sometimes, but it's not (or rarely) malicious. I find mean humor degrading and hurtful (towards others).

I'm glad you at least took the effort to not jump to conclusions that I was/am being sharp and/or sarcastic! And at least left a door open that I was/am being serious.  :)

No, I wasn't being sarcastic/trolling. I meant that perhaps if we can figure out the 1920's, we can figure out how he 2020's will crystallize. I just forgot to mention it overtly.

I rarely am sarcastic online, because it rarely translates online, especially social media.

I probably do unconsciously (and consciously) troll sometimes, but it's not (or rarely) malicious. I find mean humor degrading and hurtful (towards others).

I'm glad you at least took the effort to not jump to conclusions that I was/am being sharp and/or sarcastic! And at least left a door open that I was/am being serious!  :)

Okay I am sorry then. I can't tell sometimes when people are being cheeky.  ;D

Okay I am sorry then. I can't tell sometimes when people are being cheeky.  ;D


I find nothing you should be sorry about. It's hard to read between the lines online!  8)

Also, one last thing. I don't ever troll someone on a forum, just famous people who deserve it, like (the then famous) Paris Hilton, and Donald Trump.

Leftist Trump jokes and parodies were mainly popular from 2015 to 2016 until his inauguration because they didn't think he'd actually win the presidency. It seemed hilariously absurd to them at the time. Now the joke's on them, and the salty left is tired of hearing about Trump and politics. 2017 will probably be the last year for Trump-humor, (except from SNL, The Tonight Show, etc..) as society adapts to the Trump Era.

You're right that 2010's Pop culture and trends are fizzling out. (Especially Hipsterdom) But I don't think trends in general will be all that much different until 2021 - 2023, unless someone/something new and shocking comes along before that time period. By 2024, when new trends have arrived and the 2020's defines itself, the 2010's will look ancient, and our musical style & fashion trends would be a long-gone laughing stock. Like how the trends Emo, Scene, Goth, Punk, and Gangsta are to most people in 2017.


First paragraph: this is just so ridiculous to me. "As society adapts to the Trump Era." You mean as society adapts to the circus that is the Trump Administration? Trump supporters are definitely adapting to him. We're all watching as one by one, the most logical Trump supporters give up on him until he finally finds his core group who would go full on Outer Party for him.

Second paragraph: If 2010 pop culture trends are fizzling out, what's fizzling in?

That's because people are corrupt.

But, yeah. Hillary at the very least wouldn't be an embarrassing clown. Unfortunately, we've come to realize that Trump can get away with pretty much anything. He could send every Muslim to a concentration camp and most Trump supporters would say "but we gotta protect our country...besides, Hillary would have nuked the planet by now, so she would have been worse!" No matter how terrible Trump gets, they'll imagine how worse Hillary could have been and make excuses for the man.

I highly doubt Trump can win again with the majority of the vote in 2020 and I'm convinced this country will finally proceed to tear itself apart after electing a president without the majority vote two times in a row.

I totally agree with you. It's so annoying hearing Trump supporters say that and come up with every excuse in the book (and their heads).

I totally agree with you. It's so annoying hearing Trump supporters say that and come up with every excuse in the book (and their heads).


Many of those same people would vote for anyone with an R next to their name. So if James Holmes or Charles Manson decided to run for President as a Republican, he'd get their support. If Holmes or Manson were to adapt a faux-populist and nationalist platform, even better. 

Many of those same people would vote for anyone with an R next to their name. So if James Holmes or Charles Manson decided to run for President as a Republican, he'd get their support. If Holmes or Manson were to adapt a faux-populist and nationalist platform, even better.

I know, it's almost like a cult..which is scary.

I totally agree with you. It's so annoying hearing Trump supporters say that and come up with every excuse in the book (and their heads).


It honestly freaks me out. I can kind of understand holding your nose and voting for him and then realizing he's crap by this point. However, so many Trump supporters seem to love this idea of Trump instead of Trump himself. His administration is constantly is disarray. He obviously lacks discipline. Everyone that comes into contact with him seems to distrust him. He constantly blames the Democrats for obstructing him even though his party almost controls the entire country on every level. The only thing so far obstructing him...is the fking LAW!

It's inevitable that the pendulum will swing back...but I hope the Dems get their act together and push better candidates instead of crappy, neo-conservative corporate Dems who'll only survive 1 term like so many back in 2008/10.

It honestly freaks me out. I can kind of understand holding your nose and voting for him and then realizing he's crap by this point. However, so many Trump supporters seem to love this idea of Trump instead of Trump himself. His administration is constantly is disarray. He obviously lacks discipline. Everyone that comes into contact with him seems to distrust him. He constantly blames the Democrats for obstructing him even though his party almost controls the entire country on every level. The only thing so far obstructing him...is the fking LAW!

It's inevitable that the pendulum will swing back...but I hope the Dems get their act together and push better candidates instead of crappy, neo-conservative corporate Dems who'll only survive 1 term like so many back in 2008/10.

I agree wholeheartedly.

That's because people are corrupt.

But, yeah. Hillary at the very least wouldn't be an embarrassing clown. Unfortunately, we've come to realize that Trump can get away with pretty much anything. He could send every Muslim to a concentration camp and most Trump supporters would say "but we gotta protect our country...besides, Hillary would have nuked the planet by now, so she would have been worse!" No matter how terrible Trump gets, they'll imagine how worse Hillary could have been and make excuses for the man.

I highly doubt Trump can win again with the majority of the vote in 2020 and I'm convinced this country will finally proceed to tear itself apart after electing a president without the majority vote two times in a row.
You doubt Trump will get a 2nd term, eh? I remember not too long ago like it was yesterday, that everyone doubted Obama would get a 2nd term.

Sure enough, he did, despite all the controversy,  backlash, and millions of haters. They said Obama would get impeached throughout his entire presidency, and it never happened.

Even George Bush somehow managed to get re-elected despite being considered one of the worst presidents of all time, and not preventing 9/11. As I said before in one post, if W. Bush and Obama can get re-elected, so can Trump.

People doubted he would even win the presidency. They were all wrong and now he's the POTUS. So don't be so sure of yourself thinking he won't get re-elected.

There's a 50% chance it could happen. Prepare to be shocked again. But seriously, if Trump does get re-elected, what are you gonna do about it? Move to Canada? Gripe about him for another 4 years?

I think Trump's doing a fine job keeping the peace and I'll vote for him again in 2020. Many other Trump supporters will too. Very few have abandoned him. I certainly won't.

"First paragraph: this is just so ridiculous to me. "As society adapts to the Trump Era." You mean as society adapts to the circus that is the Trump Administration? Trump supporters are definitely adapting to him. We're all watching as one by one, the most logical Trump supporters give up on him until he finally finds his core group who would go full on Outer Party for him."

Oh come on... Very few of his supporters gave up on him. What about me, huh? I haven't. Those who have were probably leaning on the left anyway.

When I said "adapt", I meant that things are settling down, and there's a lot less rage and backlash against Trump from Hollywood, the protesters, and leftists in general.

People are accepting the fact that he's the POTUS, and probably will be for another term. Another Republican may win the presidency in 2024, like Pence. I'm excited for that.

"Second paragraph: If 2010 pop culture trends are fizzling out, what's fizzling in?"

A 00's revival is happening. Look at Justin Bieber in 2017: He got rid of his undercut for Slim Shady hair, and his classic side sweep. Taper leg pants and Nike Swoosh sweatpants are very popular right now.

Less people are donning beards, man-buns, undercuts, and skinny jeans. People are going back to baggy clothes and baggy sweatsuits. I can see a 00's revival in the 2020's when 90's nostalgia is out.

You doubt Trump will get a 2nd term, eh? I remember not too long ago like it was yesterday, that everyone doubted Obama would get a 2nd term.

Sure enough, he did, despite all the controversy,  backlash, and millions of haters. They said Obama would get impeached throughout his entire presidency, and it never happened.

Even George Bush somehow managed to get re-elected despite being considered one of the worst presidents of all time, and not preventing 9/11. As I said before in one post, if W. Bush and Obama can get re-elected, so can Trump.

People doubted he would even win the presidency. They were all wrong and now he's the POTUS. So don't be so sure of yourself thinking he won't get re-elected.

There's a 50% chance it could happen. Prepare to be shocked again. But seriously, if Trump does get re-elected, what are you gonna do about it? Move to Canada? Gripe about him for another 4 years?

I think Trump's doing a fine job keeping the peace and I'll vote for him again in 2020. Many other Trump supporters will too. Very few have abandoned him. I certainly won't.


I didn't say I doubt Trump could win a 2nd term. I said I doubt he could win a 2nd term with the popular vote.

If Trump wins again, I'll continue doing what I can to limit the damage him and his party deals to this country. And yeah, I will gripe about him for another 4 years. He's not just a bad president...he's a crappy human being and you know it.

He is keeping the peace? But he's not doing anything. All he does is lie, throw tantrums on twitter, and let the Republican Congress do all the work and all those guys are doing is giving themselves and their buddies deals. They've done nothing to help anyone else.

I'm sure many Trump supporters who voted for him and would do it again. I'm sure Trump could do quite a few abominable things and many Trump supporters would never abandon him. 

"First paragraph: this is just so ridiculous to me. "As society adapts to the Trump Era." You mean as society adapts to the circus that is the Trump Administration? Trump supporters are definitely adapting to him. We're all watching as one by one, the most logical Trump supporters give up on him until he finally finds his core group who would go full on Outer Party for him."

Oh come on... Very few of his supporters gave up on him. What about me, huh? I haven't. Those who have were probably leaning on the left anyway.

When I said "adapt", I meant that things are settling down, and there's a lot less rage and backlash against Trump from Hollywood, the protesters, and leftists in general.

People are accepting the fact that he's the POTUS, and probably will be for another term. Another Republican may win the presidency in 2024, like Pence. I'm excited for that.

"Second paragraph: If 2010 pop culture trends are fizzling out, what's fizzling in?"

A 00's revival is happening. Look at Justin Bieber in 2017: He got rid of his undercut for Slim Shady hair, and his classic side sweep. Taper leg pants and Nike Swoosh sweatpants are very popular right now.

Less people are donning beards, man-buns, undercuts, and skinny jeans. People are going back to baggy clothes and baggy sweatsuits. I can see a 00's revival in the 2020's when 90's nostalgia is out.


http://www.konbini.com/us/files/2017/02/trump-1984.jpg


Anyway....I'm not seeing this 00 revival. I wasn't referring to revival fashion. I was referring to new fashion.

I didn't say I doubt Trump could win a 2nd term. I said I doubt he could win a 2nd term with the popular vote.

If Trump wins again, I'll continue doing what I can to limit the damage him and his party deals to this country. And yeah, I will gripe about him for another 4 years. He's not just a bad president...he's a crappy human being and you know it.

He is keeping the peace? But he's not doing anything. All he does is lie, throw tantrums on twitter, and let the Republican Congress do all the work and all those guys are doing is giving themselves and their buddies deals. They've done nothing to help anyone else.

I'm sure many Trump supporters would vote for him and would do it again. I'm sure Trump could do quite a few abominable things and many Trump supporters would never abandon him.

I totally agree with you.

First paragraph: this is just so ridiculous to me. "As society adapts to the Trump Era." You mean as society adapts to the circus that is the Trump Administration? Trump supporters are definitely adapting to him. We're all watching as one by one, the most logical Trump supporters give up on him until he finally finds his core group who would go full on Outer Party for him.

Second paragraph: If 2010 pop culture trends are fizzling out, what's fizzling in?


fidget spinners? ???

People today aren't really dressing or acting any different than they have been over the past few years. I was downtown yesterday and a whole swarm of hipsters were crowded around the bars and restaurants like usual. Not to mention some of those faux-ghetto kids blasting that horrible trap music somewhere near by. Until I start to see the hotspots close down or switch their formats, I'm not seeing any noticeable changes.

People today aren't really dressing or acting any different than they have been over the past few years. I was downtown yesterday and a whole swarm of hipsters were crowded around the bars and restaurants like usual. Not to mention some of those faux-ghetto kids blasting that horrible trap music somewhere near by. Until I start to see the hotspots close down or switch their formats, I'm not seeing any noticeable changes.

Yeah, same here.

Yeah, same here.


I think we'll see changes in the late part of 2018 or 2019. Probably 2019. I have a feeling 2018 will be the last of the definitive 2010's vibe even if there are subtle changes happening in the background that contribute to the next decade. We'll just have to wait and see; this decade as a whole is very, very consistent. 

People today aren't really dressing or acting any different than they have been over the past few years. I was downtown yesterday and a whole swarm of hipsters were crowded around the bars and restaurants like usual. Not to mention some of those faux-ghetto kids blasting that horrible trap music somewhere near by. Until I start to see the hotspots close down or switch their formats, I'm not seeing any noticeable changes.


Honestly, it's good that things don't change so fast, or our human minds wouldn't be able to catch up to things!

I think we'll see changes in the late part of 2018 or 2019. Probably 2019. I have a feeling 2018 will be the last of the definitive 2010's vibe even if there are subtle changes happening in the background that contribute to the next decade. We'll just have to wait and see; this decade as a whole is very, very consistent.

Yep, I agree.

It honestly freaks me out. I can kind of understand holding your nose and voting for him and then realizing he's crap by this point. However, so many Trump supporters seem to love this idea of Trump instead of Trump himself. His administration is constantly is disarray. He obviously lacks discipline. Everyone that comes into contact with him seems to distrust him. He constantly blames the Democrats for obstructing him even though his party almost controls the entire country on every level. The only thing so far obstructing him...is the fking LAW!

It's inevitable that the pendulum will swing back...but I hope the Dems get their act together and push better candidates instead of crappy, neo-conservative corporate Dems who'll only survive 1 term like so many back in 2008/10.


I agree with everything you said especially the bold.

Like I said in another thread, I actually kind of prefer Trump being president rather than someone more stable like Pence or Cruz because, lets face it, he's an incompetent buffooon. His government is in disarray because he literally has no political experience and that actually works for the Dems benefit. That's also very perplexing when you look at how corrupt his administration is with his financial ties to Russia.

Overall I think Dems at the moment, if they play their cards the right way, could mobilize a campaign forc against Trump in 2018 & 2020. However, it comes at the cost of Dema abandoning their Corporate Neo-Liberal streak of politics as well, otherwise we'd look like hypocrites.

If we could successfully start electing and endorsing more candidates with the ideology of social democracy like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Tulsi Gabbard, Al Franken, etc. we could most definitely bring a pendulum swing back into liberalism.

Similar to how, IMHO, it was the Dems that lost the election not the Repubs that Won the election, I genuinely feel that the next 4 years are ultimately up to the Dems to frame. If they continue down the Corporate Dem route (which unfortunately I see little evidence as of now of most Dems breaking from this path) then expect the Repubs to maintain the legislature in 2018 and the presidency in 2020.

If we could successfully start electing and endorsing more candidates with the ideology of social democracy like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Tulsi Gabbard, Al Franken, etc. we could most definitely bring a pendulum swing back into liberalism.


Yeah, but sadly, the Democrats thought he was too far-left than the rest of them. Even though he was more sane than Hilary Clinton and would run better in the 2016 election, in my opinion.

I agree with everything you said especially the bold.

Like I said in another thread, I actually kind of prefer Trump being president rather than someone more stable like Pence or Cruz because, lets face it, he's an incompetent buffooon. His government is in disarray because he literally has no political experience and that actually works for the Dems benefit. That's also very perplexing when you look at how corrupt his administration is with his financial ties to Russia.

Overall I think Dems at the moment, if they play their cards the right way, could mobilize a campaign forc against Trump in 2018 & 2020. However, it comes at the cost of Dems abandoning their Corporate Neo-Liberal streak of politics as well, otherwise we'd look like hypocrites.

If we could successfully start electing and endorsing more candidates with the ideology of social democracy like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Tulsi Gabbard, Al Franken, etc. we could most definitely bring a pendulum swing back into liberalism.

I agree with you on your last sentence.

When it comes to Trump being in office, I get that his incompetency seems a little innocuous compared to the overt Republican Conservative Christian ideologue style governing that a President Pence, President Ryan or whoever would bring but I just don't really see how it can be worse because Republicans effectively control the entire country on every governmental level. The Democratic Party is currently the most removed from political power since 1928. 1-9-2-8 PEOPLE!....89 years ago, "that means virtually no American voter has ever seen Democrats so removed from controlling the nation’s policies."

Yeah, but sadly, the Democrats thought he was too far-left than the rest of them. Even though he was more sane than Hilary Clinton and would run better in the 2016 election, in my opinion.

Well, let's not get into the sanity problem because both Bernie and Hillary are sane. Trump is not sane and he proves it everyday. However, the Democrats better run someone like Jason Kander or else they will fall flat like they did last year. This year is the year I can register with a political party and never have I been so weary about registering as a Democrat (there's a chance I can remain politically independent :-\\).

You're right. As much as I'd love to go back in time to the 00's and beyond, we're in need of something completely new at this point. All it takes is one person to bring about change...

Although I'll have to disagree with what you said about the 00's. Imo, that was the last good, innovative decade for Pop culture. What about Emo, Crunk, Juke music, early Soulja Boy, Ed Hardy apparel...

What did Soulja Boy do?

What did Soulja Boy do?
I still like a lot of Soulja Boy's music from '07 - '09, mainly for the catchy hooks and instrumental versions, and not the lyrics. For me, it's just nostalgic and it reminds me of the fun I had back then.

I think we'll see changes in the late part of 2018 or 2019. Probably 2019. I have a feeling 2018 will be the last of the definitive 2010's vibe even if there are subtle changes happening in the background that contribute to the next decade. We'll just have to wait and see; this decade as a whole is very, very consistent.
Yeah, even though there are some subtle changes happening in the background, you're probably right. I don't think the Lumbersexual Normcore Hipster-Yuppie trend (or whatever people call it now) will be completely dead until 2024, maximum.

Kinda like how Emo didn't go out of style and receive backlash until 2012, then the Hipster look went mainstream, and Dubstep & Indie took over Pop music. By 2014, emo was dead. (With a small handful of revivalists)

I didn't say I doubt Trump could win a 2nd term. I said I doubt he could win a 2nd term with the popular vote.


I'm 100% sure he won't win the popular vote a second time... because there wasn't even a first time ;D

I agree. It does remind me of the '80s a lot in terms of consistency. So it wouldn't surprise if we see a shift into next decade's culture in the early '20s.

I see the '90s as the new '70s. The '00s as the new '80s. And the '10s as the new (crappier) '90s.

The '90s created/popularized alot of the music genres we listen to today like the '70s did in the late 20th century, but had a laid-back vibe to everything. They both were the last era of their type of their respective popular music styles and legends.

The '00s added the catchy instantly recognizable upbeat electronic beats similar to the '80s. Both decades went all out on crazy fashion styles and inventative TV and film. Both decades were video game renaissance periods. Both decades had unpopular Republican governments in the US. People either look at both decades as the best or worst periods relative to the decades prior and since.

The 1990s and 2010s, aside from the '10s obvious wannabe '90s attitude, shares the backlash outlook on the previous decade while sharing the downlow nihilism and hipsters thumb their nose at the mainstream. Growing 80s and 00s nostalgia towards the end of both respective decades. 

I still like a lot of Soulja Boy's music from '07 - '09, mainly for the catchy hooks and instrumental versions, and not the lyrics. For me, it's just nostalgic and it reminds me of the fun I had back then.

You put his name on your list like he changed something. He only had one real mainstream hit in the late 00's due in part to ironic popularity, like Rebecca Black's Friday in 2010.
He then had a short return in 2010 where his only memorable contribution was popularizing the YOLO phrase. In comparison, Kanye West, Common, Lupe fiasco, Lil Wayne and T.I. were much more influential rappers of that era than soulja was.

Upcoming 2018 movies that I can't wait for:

Avengers: Infinity War
The Incredibles 2
Han Solo: A Star Wars Story
Wreck-It Ralph 2
Bad Boys for Life (aka Bad Boys 3)


2018 sports events that I'm excited for:

Super Bowl LII at U.S. Bank Stadium in Minneapolis, MN (February 4, 2018)
2018 Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang, South Korea (Feb 9, 2018 – Feb 25, 2018)
2018 NBA All-Star Game at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, CA  (February 18, 2018)
2018 NBA Finals
2018 Stanley Cup Finals
2018 FIFA World Cup in Russia (Jun 14, 2018 – Jul 15, 2018)
2018 MLB All-Star Game at Nationals Park in Washington, D.C. (July 2018)
2018 World Series (October - November 2018)

You put his name on your list like he changed something. He only had one real mainstream hit in the late 00's due in part to ironic popularity, like Rebecca Black's Friday in 2010.
He then had a short return in 2010 where his only memorable contribution was popularizing the YOLO phrase. In comparison, Kanye West, Common, Lupe fiasco, Lil Wayne and T.I. were much more influential rappers of that era than soulja was.


"Friday" wasn't released until' 2012. I know this because I vividly remember when my classmates would joke about that sheesh song during the 2012-13 school year.

"Friday" wasn't released until' 2012. I know this because I vividly remember when my classmates would joke about that sheesh song during the 2012-13 school year.

"Friday" by Rebecca Black was released on March 14, 2011.....not in 2012. Bonus, the song was recorded on December 18, 2010.

"Friday" wasn't released until' 2012. I know this because I vividly remember when my classmates would joke about that sheesh song during the 2012-13 school year.

That is incorrect. Friday came out on YouTube in 2011. March 2011 to be exact. I was in highschool then and I remember. it clearly in my second semester people making fun of it in 2011. It actually died out in 2012. It got re-uploaded in September of 2011 on YouTube.

He then had a short return in 2010 where his only memorable contribution was popularizing the YOLO phrase.

This is also incorrect. Because "Yolo" only got popular in early 2012, thanks to Drake's song "The Motto" which was released in late 2011. Soulja Boy has nothing to do with the term "Yolo", unless there is some underground trend that happened earlier from SB that I'm not aware of. Yolo was a distinct 2012 thing. "Swag" on the other hand was popular before around 2011.

I pretty much know early 2010s culture off by heart because I was in highschool during this time and it was everywhere in my social circles. I couldn't escape it, so I was very hyper aware of the cultural trends at the time.  ;D

That is incorrect. Friday came out on YouTube in 2011. March 2011 to be exact. I was in highschool then and I remember. it clearly in my second semester people making fun of it in 2011. It actually died out in 2012. It got re-uploaded in September of 2011 on YouTube.


Then I must have remembered it from the 2011-12 school year. It certainly wasn't the 2010-11 year, as that was before I met the guys who would joke about the song. So I know it wasn't around in 2010.

Then I must have remembered it from the 2011-12 school year. It certainly wasn't the 2010-11 year, as that was before I met the guys who would joke about the song. So I know it wasn't around in 2010.


It was early 2011. I was one of the first 10 million views so I remember it :D

And I was just waiting for the next Friday to come so I could sing it ;D

Then I must have remembered it from the 2011-12 school year. It certainly wasn't the 2010-11 year, as that was before I met the guys who would joke about the song. So I know it wasn't around in 2010.

It was spring 2011, which is part of 2010-2011 school year. The song exploded in popularity in March and April of 2011 shortly after it got uploaded to YouTube.

It was early 2011. I was one of the first 10 million views so I remember it :D

And I was just waiting for the next Friday to come so I could sing it ;D


It'll suck.

This is also incorrect. Because "Yolo" only got popular in early 2012, thanks to Drake's song "The Motto" which was released in late 2011. Soulja Boy has nothing to do with the term "Yolo", unless there is some underground trend that happened earlier from SB that I'm not aware of. Yolo was a distinct 2012 thing. "Swag" on the other hand was popular before around 2011.

I pretty much know early 2010s culture off by heart because I was in highschool during this time and it was everywhere in my social circles. I couldn't escape it, so I was very hyper aware of the cultural trends at the time.  ;D

Yeah I actually meant Swag, no Yolo :P

I overheard an interesting conversation in my English class on Friday. A girl in my class was actually talking about how music has really gone downhill and that it's just not as good anymore. She generally likes a lot of the new Top-40 releases as well, so for her to say that must mean something. Then, a friend of mine joined in the conversation and she said something along the lines of, "a few days ago I heard a song on the radio. It had a guitar in the background, so I thought 'this might be ok', but the next minute, it had rapping in it!". I'm paraphrasing there, but that's basically what she said when talking about how ordinary Top-40 music is now.

In all honesty, the majority of people I know personally really dislike the current Top-40 music and 2010s music in general. With the exception of one, none of my friends like it. I do have a friend (who doesn't like current Top-40 music) who doesn't mind some of Ed Sheeran's songs, such as "Shape of You" or "Galway Girl", but apart from that, he doesn't like Top-40 music from this decade either. I certainly don't and neither do my parents. In fact, I only ever hear praise for the current Top-40 music from a small handful of kids in my science class and my science teacher. Generally speaking, I never hear anyone else in my year group talk about liking any of the new Top-40 releases. That's not to say that they don't listen to them, but there definitely isn't the same fondness or appreciation of the current Top-40 charts, especially when compared to a couple of years ago, when a lot of people in my year group were raving about songs such as "Peanut Butter Jelly" and "Downtown".

I'm really hoping that there will be a shift of some sorts in 2018, as popular culture has been uninspiring and stagnant for quite some time now. I do get the impression that many others are hoping there will be a change as well.

I overheard an interesting conversation in my English class on Friday. A girl in my class was actually talking about how music has really gone downhill and that it's just not as good anymore. She generally likes a lot of the new Top-40 releases as well, so for her to say that must mean something. Then, a friend of mine joined in the conversation and she said something along the lines of, "a few days ago I heard a song on the radio. It had a guitar in the background, so I thought 'this might be ok', but the next minute, it had rapping in it!". I'm paraphrasing there, but that's basically what she said when talking about how ordinary Top-40 music is now.

In all honesty, the majority of people I know personally really dislike the current Top-40 music and 2010s music in general. With the exception of one, none of my friends like it. I do have a friend (who doesn't like current Top-40 music) who doesn't mind some of Ed Sheeran's songs, such as "Shape of You" or "Galway Girl", but apart from that, he doesn't like Top-40 music from this decade either. I certainly don't and neither do my parents. In fact, I only ever hear praise for the current Top-40 music from a small handful of kids in my science class and my science teacher. Generally speaking, I never hear anyone else in my year group talk about liking any of the new Top-40 releases. That's not to say that they don't listen to them, but there definitely isn't the same fondness or appreciation of the current Top-40 charts, especially when compared to a couple of years ago, when a lot of people in my year group were raving about songs such as "Peanut Butter Jelly" and "Downtown".

I'm really hoping that there will be a shift of some sorts in 2018, as popular culture has been uninspiring and stagnant for quite some time now. I do get the impression that many others are hoping there will be a change as well.


I definitely think the winds of change of blowing for Top 40.  It hasn't arrived yet, but we are currently experiencing small changes that could result in Top 40 becoming better again in 2018 or 2019.  So far, I think 2017 has been better for music than 2016 overall.
I would say right now we are at a similar place with '10s music as we were in 2007 with the '00s.  2007 was mostly a continuation of the core '00s with ringtone rap and post-grunge dominating, but there were subtle hints of change on the horizon.  2007 was a huge year for autotune, especially in hip-hop, which in many ways was kind of a "gateway" to the electropop era and was distinctly late '00s. 

Even with that said, I greatly prefer the sound of 2007 over today.

I overheard an interesting conversation in my English class on Friday. A girl in my class was actually talking about how music has really gone downhill and that it's just not as good anymore. She generally likes a lot of the new Top-40 releases as well, so for her to say that must mean something. Then, a friend of mine joined in the conversation and she said something along the lines of, "a few days ago I heard a song on the radio. It had a guitar in the background, so I thought 'this might be ok', but the next minute, it had rapping in it!". I'm paraphrasing there, but that's basically what she said when talking about how ordinary Top-40 music is now.

In all honesty, the majority of people I know personally really dislike the current Top-40 music and 2010s music in general. With the exception of one, none of my friends like it. I do have a friend (who doesn't like current Top-40 music) who doesn't mind some of Ed Sheeran's songs, such as "Shape of You" or "Galway Girl", but apart from that, he doesn't like Top-40 music from this decade either. I certainly don't and neither do my parents. In fact, I only ever hear praise for the current Top-40 music from a small handful of kids in my science class and my science teacher. Generally speaking, I never hear anyone else in my year group talk about liking any of the new Top-40 releases. That's not to say that they don't listen to them, but there definitely isn't the same fondness or appreciation of the current Top-40 charts, especially when compared to a couple of years ago, when a lot of people in my year group were raving about songs such as "Peanut Butter Jelly" and "Downtown".

I'm really hoping that there will be a shift of some sorts in 2018, as popular culture has been uninspiring and stagnant for quite some time now. I do get the impression that many others are hoping there will be a change as well.


Thank God. I thought I was the only one that hated mainstream music today!  :P

I overheard an interesting conversation in my English class on Friday. A girl in my class was actually talking about how music has really gone downhill and that it's just not as good anymore. She generally likes a lot of the new Top-40 releases as well, so for her to say that must mean something. Then, a friend of mine joined in the conversation and she said something along the lines of, "a few days ago I heard a song on the radio. It had a guitar in the background, so I thought 'this might be ok', but the next minute, it had rapping in it!". I'm paraphrasing there, but that's basically what she said when talking about how ordinary Top-40 music is now.

In all honesty, the majority of people I know personally really dislike the current Top-40 music and 2010s music in general. With the exception of one, none of my friends like it. I do have a friend (who doesn't like current Top-40 music) who doesn't mind some of Ed Sheeran's songs, such as "Shape of You" or "Galway Girl", but apart from that, he doesn't like Top-40 music from this decade either. I certainly don't and neither do my parents. In fact, I only ever hear praise for the current Top-40 music from a small handful of kids in my science class and my science teacher. Generally speaking, I never hear anyone else in my year group talk about liking any of the new Top-40 releases. That's not to say that they don't listen to them, but there definitely isn't the same fondness or appreciation of the current Top-40 charts, especially when compared to a couple of years ago, when a lot of people in my year group were raving about songs such as "Peanut Butter Jelly" and "Downtown".

I'm really hoping that there will be a shift of some sorts in 2018, as popular culture has been uninspiring and stagnant for quite some time now. I do get the impression that many others are hoping there will be a change as well.


Scientifically, the top 40 is almost never very good, so it's best to have low standards.

Scientifically, the top 40 is almost never very good, so it's best to have low standards.


"It's all about the money. It's all about the dum, dum, dee, dee, dum, dum,

I don't think it's funny. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!...."

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"It's all about the money. It's all about the dum, dum, dee, dee, dum, dum,

I don't think it's funny. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!...."


Jessie J said it better, since she made more money off her song.

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Jessie J said it better, since she made more money off her song.

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I think she's more famous too! Ouch!  :-X  :-X  :-X

It was early 2011. I was one of the first 10 million views so I remember it :D

And I was just waiting for the next Friday to come so I could sing it ;D
Confession: I used to semi-unironically listen to that song.

Non-crossover artists have been pretty damn good this year. This shift music is already happening, it's just hasn't gone mainstream yet.

Confession: I used to semi-unironically listen to that song.


;D ;D ;D

I was the same, except the song was Turn Down For What.  :-[

Non-crossover artists have been pretty damn good this year. This shift music is already happening, it's just hasn't gone mainstream yet.

What changes are you noticing in music? What do you think the sound will be like?

What changes are you noticing in music? What do you think the sound will be like?



I'm a Hip Hop and R&B fan.....so most of what I've noticed is happening with "urban" music. Hip Hop is the most diverse it's been since the mid 90s....the quality isn't quite there, but at least it's less cookie cutter than the it was in the 2000s and early 2010s. There's enough to balance out the formulaic crap of today.

The most noticeable to me is the success of socially-conscious Hip Hop artists like Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, Logic, Chance The Rapper, etc....mainstream Hip Hop in general is becoming less about melody and more about lyrical content...even underground types guys like Joey Badass, Vince Staples, or Dave East have a noticeable buzz in the Hip Hop world.

There's also a huge Alternative R&B scene that has been largely ignored over the last 10 years or so.....Frank Ocean, The Weeknd, Jhene Aiko, Miguel, Janelle Monae and Solange have bought a little attention to it from outside of the R&B world.....SZA just released one of the better R&B albums of the decade and looks she's about to be on the same level of fame as they are.

Pop music is pretty dull right now IMO, but songs like Sign Of The Times, Issues, Stay, Believer and a few more have given me a weird nostalgic feeling that I can't pinpont

Bring back grunge, alternative and/or punk into the mainstream. At least one of those three.

Hopefully, it'll be a new beginning for me!  :)

I'm a Hip Hop and R&B fan.....so most of what I've noticed is happening with "urban" music. Hip Hop is the most diverse it's been since the mid 90s....the quality isn't quite there, but at least it's less cookie cutter than the it was in the 2000s and early 2010s. There's enough to balance out the formulaic crap of today.

The most noticeable to me is the success of socially-conscious Hip Hop artists like Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, Logic, Chance The Rapper, etc....mainstream Hip Hop in general is becoming less about melody and more about lyrical content...even underground types guys like Joey Badass, Vince Staples, or Dave East have a noticeable buzz in the Hip Hop world.

There's also a huge Alternative R&B scene that has been largely ignored over the last 10 years or so.....Frank Ocean, The Weeknd, Jhene Aiko, Miguel, Janelle Monae and Solange have bought a little attention to it from outside of the R&B world.....SZA just released one of the better R&B albums of the decade and looks she's about to be on the same level of fame as they are.

Pop music is pretty dull right now IMO, but songs like Sign Of The Times, Issues, Stay, Believer and a few more have given me a weird nostalgic feeling that I can't pinpont


I'm not feeling good about pop or most rap in the slightest (although Kendrick Lamar might inspire a change) but I'm with you on r&b. Interesting things have been going on in the "indie r&b scene" for a while and it's looking like it might be going mainstream.

Curious on the future of music. Nowadays music is more electronic, compressed, overly-produced, slower (the average tempo in dance music is around 100 or less while in the past decades music had a higher tempo and was more dance-able) etc. Do you think that this trend will see some decline by 2018 or later as music starts going back to being slightly more organic sounding? I know musical trends change due to people either getting sick of a certain trend or because of newer people coming in with new ideas that start new trends.

1987 sounds different from 1997 which sounds different 2007 which sounds different from 2017 in terms of hit genres, artists, and overall trends.  Curious on how the late '10s and '20s will be in music. Do anyone of you see a slight decline in electro music?

Curious on the future of music. Nowadays music is more electronic, compressed, overly-produced, slower (the average tempo in dance music is around 100 or less while in the past decades music had a higher tempo and was more dance-able) etc. Do you think that this trend will see some decline by 2018 or later as music starts going back to being slightly more organic sounding? I know musical trends change due to people either getting sick of a certain trend or because of newer people coming in with new ideas that start new trends.

1987 sounds different from 1997 which sounds different 2007 which sounds different from 2017 in terms of hit genres, artists, and overall trends.  Curious on how the late '10s and '20s will be in music. Do anyone of you see a slight decline in electro music?


I think electronic music's influence on popular music will evolve, but not go away, in the coming years. Instead of pure poppy EDM being a trend on the charts, we could see glam metal or R&B (just scenarios) with slight electronical tinges to set the next generation apart from the glam metal and R&B of the 80s and 90s.

I think electronic music's influence on popular music will evolve, but not go away, in the coming years. Instead of pure poppy EDM being a trend on the charts, we could see glam metal or R&B (just scenarios) with slight electronical tinges to set the next generation apart from the glam metal and R&B of the 80s and 90s.

I agree. I think electronic music will definitely stick around, but it will evolve to a sound that is very different than now. Music in 10 years from now will sound very different and it will probably add other elements to it and a mix of genres to make it sound different.

1987 sounds different from 1997 which sounds different 2007 which sounds different from 2017 in terms of hit genres, artists, and overall trends.  Curious on how the late '10s and '20s will be in music. Do anyone of you see a slight decline in electro music?

It's tough to say. At the moment I don't believe there are any hints on what '20s music will bring. We are only slowly steering away from popular mid 2010s music now that songs like "I'm the One" are popular, which have a different stylistic element to it than the R&B and trap rap from the mid 2010s. It's a lot more simplistic and less synthesized, still over produced though and that's what's popular now but who knows in a couple of years from now. Music these days is very diverse in genres and you hear a lot of artists experimenting with different electronic sounds. I feel like it is very hard to predict until we get to 2018 or 2019 maybe and then we will hear what music the '20s will bring.

It's tough to say. At the moment I don't believe there are any hints on what '20s music will bring. We are only slowly steering away from popular mid 2010s music now that songs like "I'm the One" are popular, which have a different stylistic element to it than the R&B and trap rap from the mid 2010s. It's a lot more simplistic and less synthesized, still over produced though and that's what's popular now but who knows in a couple of years from now. Music these days is very diverse in genres and you hear a lot of artists experimenting with different electronic sounds. I feel like it is very hard to predict until we get to 2018 or 2019 maybe and then we will hear what music the '20s will bring.


That may be where music may head to. Stuff that is slightly more simplistic and less convoluted and mixed like a lot of previous stuff. Right now music is over produced, but I assume there may be a reaction towards this soon. People who don't want music that sounds like the artists just thrown a bunch of nonsensical audio effects on it and unnecessary layers of instruments. And for the love of all that is funky can modern music become more danceable and upbeat again?  >:( Tired of all the slower, dark/gritty, and emotional tracks.

That may be where music may head to. Stuff that is slightly more simplistic and less convoluted and mixed like a lot of previous stuff. Right now music is over produced, but I assume there may be a reaction towards this soon. People who don't want music that sounds like the artists just thrown a bunch of nonsensical audio effects on it and unnecessary layers of instruments. And for the love of all that is funky can modern music become more danceable and upbeat again?  >:( Tired of all the slower, dark/gritty, and emotional tracks.


I want the new music to be psychedelic and trippy

I want the new music to be psychedelic and trippy

Not going to happen....the late 1960s and early 1970s are long gone.

I want the new music to be psychedelic and trippy


There has been a psychedelic explosion in Australia over the past few years, although none of it has achieved Top-40 singles chart success. Tame Impala have topped the album chart though. I think streaming is to blame over the current state of the Top-40 charts. It's not an entirely accurate reflection of what songs are popular at the moment, in my opinion. The fact that every single song off Ed Sheeran's "Divide" appeared in the Top-40 when it was released pretty much highlights the inaccuracy of streaming..

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It should be one of the best years of my life since 1998. Sorry, TheReignMan99, I know you're sick of hearing about my late 90's love!  :-X  :-X

It should be one of the best years of my life since 1998. Sorry, TheReignMan99, I know you're sick of hearing about my late 90's love!  :-X  :-X

Huh? Where have I expressed much disdain for the late '90s? The only year of the late '90s that I don't like overall is 1999 (my birth year....I know, ironic isn't it?).

That may be where music may head to. Stuff that is slightly more simplistic and less convoluted and mixed like a lot of previous stuff. Right now music is over produced, but I assume there may be a reaction towards this soon. People who don't want music that sounds like the artists just thrown a bunch of nonsensical audio effects on it and unnecessary layers of instruments. And for the love of all that is funky can modern music become more danceable and upbeat again?  >:( Tired of all the slower, dark/gritty, and emotional tracks.


Modern mainstream pop music is NOT dark and gritty. Have you ever listened to Nine Inch Nails, or anything industrial/grunge?

I would hope for music to get more upbeat too. At least having a couple catchy songs would be nice.

I would hope for music to get more upbeat too. At least having a couple catchy songs would be nice.

Yeah, as I search through the internet I keep finding articles on how music is over produced, slower, louder, heavily compressed, sadder/emotional. Gonna need one of you to make a hit album that'll change the industry.  8)

That may be where music may head to. Stuff that is slightly more simplistic and less convoluted and mixed like a lot of previous stuff.



We are only slowly steering away from popular mid 2010s music now that songs like "I'm the One" are popular, which have a different stylistic element to it than the R&B and trap rap from the mid 2010s. It's a lot more simplistic and less synthesized

An other example of this "simplistic" beat trend that is popular now. That may just be where music is headed especially if this song gets higher on the charts which I think it will (currently in the billboard top 50).
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The Killers is back with a brand new song
Yup, the same folks that brought us "Mr Brightside" and that tune where a chick named Jenny was brutally murdered.
There is nothing remotely mid-2010s about The Killers, really. It's 00s alternative to the core.

I want the new music to be psychedelic and trippy


I want my music to be funky.

I want the new music to be psychedelic and trippy


I just want new music to be upbeat and more organic sounding (not as in using actual instrument, but songs that don't just follow the current electronic dance music trend).

I just want new music to be upbeat and more organic sounding (not as in using actual instrument, but songs that don't just follow the current electronic dance music trend).

Same but I also want music to have actual instruments.

Same but I also want music to have actual instruments.


back like they did during the early 80's.