If you had to change anything about the shows today.

The biggest change I would want is diversity. This is something that been missing throughout the decade. Almost every TV show has a gloomy tone to it. Just look at how the scenery is depicted.

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The biggest change I would want is diversity. This is something that been missing throughout the decade. Almost every TV show has a gloomy tone to it. Just look at how the scenery is depicted.

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That's one of the reasons I stopped watching most TV. Those shows are good sometimes but I don't want to feel depressed every time I watch TV. I also think there needs to be more episodes where you can watch something as a stand alone episode. With a lot of today's TV, you can't just start watching a show unless you watch every episode.

That's one of the reasons I stopped watching most TV. Those shows are good sometimes but I don't want to feel depressed every time I watch TV. I also think there needs to be more episodes where you can watch something as a stand alone episode. With a lot of today's TV, you can't just start watching a show unless you watch every episode.
With episodic television series, I cannot stand the wait for the next episode the following week. That is one reason I prefer movies, technically you get the storyline in one go.

They need to stop making shows that revolve around gays and lesbians.

With episodic television series, I cannot stand the wait for the next episode the following week. That is one reason I prefer movies, technically you get the storyline in one go.


Having to wait for the next movie can be just as much of a pain as well. 

Having to wait for the next movie can be just as much of a pain as well. 


Some serial movies I just have bothered with the sequels.

With episodic television series, I cannot stand the wait for the next episode the following week. That is one reason I prefer movies, technically you get the storyline in one go.

To me....that's the fun thing about episodic shows.....keeps your suspense :D.

The biggest change I would want is diversity. This is something that been missing throughout the decade. Almost every TV show has a gloomy tone to it. Just look at how the scenery is depicted.

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That's one of the reasons I stopped watching most TV. Those shows are good sometimes but I don't want to feel depressed every time I watch TV. I also think there needs to be more episodes where you can watch something as a stand alone episode. With a lot of today's TV, you can't just start watching a show unless you watch every episode.

I agree with the both of you.

The biggest change I would want is diversity. This is something that been missing throughout the decade. Almost every TV show has a gloomy tone to it. Just look at how the scenery is depicted.


There are some popular ones out there that add to the diversity like Blackish, House of Cards, or Empire, whether you like watching those shows or not. However, I agree the majority has a gloomy tone to it, doesn't mean it's bad, but honestly we've had episodic living room sitcoms for decades (60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's) which got repetitive too with the exception of each sitcom having a different cultural vibe to them (decade or race), but almost all of them had a similar theme to them. A living room, someone going to school, a huge family, life lessons, etc. but those were still enjoyable and fun to watch.

The 2010's decade is the first time ever the tone or genre of the shows have had this dynamic change that's not like previous decades, a lot of shows are based off comic books, sci-fi, horror stories, or major drama. Now all shows have a big story arc with big continuity that get you excited week after week and for the next season. Shows that make you want to binge-watch on Netflix as well. You build a huge relationship with the characters wondering where are they going to go from here? Who's going to live? Who's going to die? Scenes that make you jump up with your heart beating fast. TV shows now you HAVE to watch in order, but back in the 00's and earlier it was okay to shuffle and watch random episodes.

So honestly I have no compliant about 10's TV, because if anything there were just as many complaints about 00's TV being annoying in a different way when it came to the over saturation of reality shows or certain sitcoms later in the decade not being as good. The late 00's was a bumpy down period for TV. I'd still take 10's TV any day of the week, and while I agree there needs to be more diversity, it was time for something different instead of the same living room/family sitcoms we enjoyed for several decades past. See, nostalgia is a terrible drug (boom boom) there will be something else next decade.

That's one of the reasons I stopped watching most TV. Those shows are good sometimes but I don't want to feel depressed every time I watch TV. I also think there needs to be more episodes where you can watch something as a stand alone episode. With a lot of today's TV, you can't just start watching a show unless you watch every episode.
Yeah, same here. I've seen these shows watching them with my family frequently. They're definitely good, but I just can't get over the tones of the scenery. They need to mix it up.


They need to stop making shows that revolve around gays and lesbians.
Huh? ???

There's actually not many TV shows about the LGBT aside from OITNB.


There are some popular ones out there that add to the diversity like Blackish, House of Cards, or Empire, whether you like watching those shows or not. However, I agree the majority has a gloomy tone to it, doesn't mean it's bad, but honestly we've had episodic living room sitcoms for decades (60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's) which got repetitive too with the exception of each sitcom having a different cultural vibe to them (decade or race), but almost all of them had a similar theme to them. A living room, someone going to school, a huge family, life lessons, etc. but those were still enjoyable and fun to watch.

The 2010's decade is the first time ever the tone or genre of the shows have had this dynamic change that's not like previous decades, a lot of shows are based off comic books, sci-fi, horror stories, or major drama. Now all shows have a big story arc with big continuity that get you excited week after week and for the next season. Shows that make you want to binge-watch on Netflix as well. You build a huge relationship with the characters wondering where are they going to go from here? Who's going to live? Who's going to die? Scenes that make you jump up with your heart beating fast. TV shows now you HAVE to watch in order, but back in the 00's and earlier it was okay to shuffle and watch random episodes.

So honestly I have no compliant about 10's TV, because if anything there were just as many complaints about 00's TV being annoying in a different way when it came to the over saturation of reality shows or certain sitcoms later in the decade not being as good. The late 00's was a bumpy down period for TV. I'd still take 10's TV any day of the week, and while I agree there needs to be more diversity, it was time for something different instead of the same living room/family sitcoms we enjoyed for several decades past. See, nostalgia is a terrible drug (boom boom) there will be something else next decade.
Diversity doesn't always have to mean ethnicity or gender; however, I do agree there are some shows out there targeted towards minorities. Now, I don't mind shows having a somber tone, but there's too much of it. I want to see shows that also have a lighthearted nature scenery, and a mixture of both. Plus, I want to see more of the other genres as well. I'm a fan of action :); however, I'm also a fan of the others.

I totally agree on the saturation of reality shows back then. I'm glad that has been toned down although there are/were a few such as KUWTK, Jersey Shore, and Teen Mom (which I don't watch any at all)

Diversity doesn't always have to mean ethnicity or gender; however, I do agree there are some shows out there targeted towards minorities. Now, I don't mind shows having a somber tone, but there's too much of it. I want to see shows that also have a lighthearted nature scenery, and a mixture of both. Plus, I want to see more of the other genres as well. I'm a fan of action :); however, I'm also a fan of the others.

I totally agree on the saturation of reality shows back then. I'm glad that has been toned down although there are/were a few such as KUWTK, Jersey Shore, and Teen Mom (which I don't watch any at all)

I agree with you 100%.

I don't have many complaints. TV today is great! :)

All those political TV shows are finished though, now that reality has surpassed fiction. ;D

I want Orange Is the New Black to finally run out of book to film so that I'm not obligated to be a hardcore fan of it just to find camaraderie in the lesbian community. I don't want to be constantly told that my world is like a claustrophobic, mean-spirited prison instead of a pasture of opportunity.

I want Orange Is the New Black to finally run out of book to film so that I'm not obligated to be a hardcore fan of it just to find camaraderie in the lesbian community. I don't want to be constantly told that my world is like a claustrophobic, mean-spirited prison instead of a pasture of opportunity.
Do you despise the show? I'm asking because I know someone who's bi, and I think I remember her saying she doesn't like Orange Is the New Black.

I mostly like 2010's shows. It's one of the areas that the 00's and 10's did right, TV!

I do see what someone said once, on here, when they said some shows can be a big pretentious, trying to be dark, deep, and different. Those things can be a turnoff, definitely. But overall, I'd say that the 2010's TV is good.

Do you despise the show? I'm asking because I know someone who's bi, and I think I remember her saying she doesn't like Orange Is the New Black.


Objectively, it's well-written, but from a personal standpoint, to say I despise the show would probably be an understatement. I cannot stand the series because not only does it reflect opposite of what kind of individual I am and it has an aggressively pessimistic mood that's unhealthy for a heartsick dreamer like myself, its fandom has become one of the single biggest stereotypes of lesbians this decade, essentially inheriting the position once occupied by The L Word, which now looks like The Fosters by comparison. I was just stumbling on the website for Curve Magazine last night, and OitNB-related articles polluted a massive chunk of the site's newsfeed. I know some queer women who love OitNB and yet I still get along with, but regardless, it's still emblematic of my lack of acceptance and integration into the lesbian world as we know it today.

I'd take 10's TV over 00's TV as a whole (not talking about specific stations), however, I would take 90's to early 00's TV over both periods. The late 80's to first half of 00's will always be my favorite era for sitcoms, from shows like of Full House, Family Matters, Boy Meets World, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Friends, Moesha, Kenan & Kel, to shows like Malcolm In the Middle, That '70s Show, Even Stevens, That's So Raven, Drake & Josh, or Everybody Hates Chris. I miss this golden era but I've long moved on from this period now. The Big Bang Theory and Blackish are the only sitcoms left I enjoy watching sometimes, but it'll be nothing like the era the 90's or most of the 00's offered. As for TV in general, I'm glad the 10's have a different vibe with all the action, sci-fi, and drama shows. The tone may be similar but so many different varieties of story arcs. I've been enjoying this Netflix era for the past few years.

Objectively, it's well-written, but from a personal standpoint, to say I despise the show would probably be an understatement. I cannot stand the series because not only does it reflect opposite of what kind of individual I am and it has an aggressively pessimistic mood that's unhealthy for a heartsick dreamer like myself, its fandom has become one of the single biggest stereotypes of lesbians this decade, essentially inheriting the position once occupied by The L Word, which now looks like The Fosters by comparison. I was just stumbling on the website for Curve Magazine last night, and OitNB-related articles polluted a massive chunk of the site's newsfeed. I know some queer women who love OitNB and yet I still get along with, but regardless, it's still emblematic of my lack of acceptance and integration into the lesbian world as we know it today.
I agree that's well done; however, that's also something I have noticed although I don't watch OitNB as much. It sucks that lesbians are being stereotyped from what's being depicted in that show. I understand it's a TV series, but I wish they knew that lesbians come in all paths. I know plenty of L women, and they definitely don't act the same way as those portrayed in the OitNB.

As for L Word, I remember watching that from time to time when it was current. From what I recall, it seems that show itself was more natural compared to OitNB since it was somewhat diverse given that some of the women were feminine and a few others of a different ethnicity. I'm not sure if I'm right though since it's been so long that I have seen L Word.

Are you forgetting the most amazing reality show on TV right now? Hopefully I'll train for it someday! One of my friends from school made it to the qualifiers in Los Angeles so I'm excited to see him on TV this upcoming season!

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Everybody forgets the most amazing reality show on TV right now! Hopefully I'll train for it someday! One of my friends from school made it to the qualifiers in Los Angeles so I'm excited to see him on TV this upcoming season!

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When does it come on?

When does it come on?


It returns June 12 at 8pm E.T. (Pacific for you) on NBC. It'll be on season 9 now! I remember when the show first started on G4 back in 2009 and it wasn't national televised yet, then in 2012 when season 4 started it became national televised on NBC and it's been very popular ever since. The show got inspired by the original Ninja Warrior (Sasuke) from Japan which started in 1997. I was hooked into reruns on G4 all the time.

I agree that's well done; however, that's also something I have noticed although I don't watch OitNB as much. It sucks that lesbians are being stereotyped from what's being depicted in that show. I understand it's a TV series, but I wish they knew that lesbians come in all paths. I know plenty of L women, and they definitely don't act the same way as those portrayed in the OitNB.

What especially crawls under my skin is how the show indulges itself in what I guess is supposed diversity, when really it's just variety within narrow confines and sorted by further stereotypes. Every character is given a thorough backstory, distinct from the other inmates, but the only full-on lesbians seem to be those with that rebel-hearted, flannel-sporting, tattoo-loving toughie personality. Meanwhile, the bisexual characters, such as Piper, are ultimately more naturally committed to their man in real life and only fully experimental with women in the prison setting, while plenty other women, despite not even being queer whatsoever, have prison wives out of pure desperation and pressure. It's a thorough deconstruction of female sexuality that I guess tries to press forward progressive values, but in the end really just continues to enforce the cultural status quo, leaving full-on feminine genuine lesbians like myself nonexistent except in porn for straight guys.

As for L Word, I remember watching that from time to time when it was current. From what I recall, it seems that show itself was more natural compared to OitNB since it was somewhat diverse given that some of the women were feminine and a few others of a different ethnicity. I'm not sure if I'm right though since it's been so long that I have seen L Word.


The L Word is often criticized for its cast being too feminine, that it's not a realistic portrayal of the lesbian community. I personally enjoy underrepresented feminine lesbians getting actual fictional representation, so long as it isn't for heterosexual males to jack off to, but on the downside, I disliked how the show made lesbians seem rather cliquey, another factor that has caused me downright misery in real life. Still, at least it's a clique I wouldn't mind being welcomed into, very much unlike the dour prison wive culture of OitNB.

It returns June 12 at 8pm E.T. (Pacific for you) on NBC. It'll be on season 9 now! I remember when the show first started on G4 back in 2009 and it wasn't national televised yet, then in 2012 when season 4 started it became national televised on NBC and it's been very popular ever since. The show got inspired by the original Ninja Warrior (Sasuke) from Japan which started in 1997. I was hooked into reruns on G4 all the time.

I'll check out. Game competitions are always fun to watch! :)


What especially crawls under my skin is how the show indulges itself in what I guess is supposed diversity, when really it's just variety within narrow confines and sorted by further stereotypes. Every character is given a thorough backstory, distinct from the other inmates, but the only full-on lesbians seem to be those with that rebel-hearted, flannel-sporting, tattoo-loving toughie personality. Meanwhile, the bisexual characters, such as Piper, are ultimately more naturally committed to their man in real life and only fully experimental with women in the prison setting, while plenty other women, despite not even being queer whatsoever, have prison wives out of pure desperation and pressure. It's a thorough deconstruction of female sexuality that I guess tries to press forward progressive values, but in the end really just continues to enforce the cultural status quo, leaving full-on feminine genuine lesbians like myself nonexistent except in porn for straight guys.

The L Word is often criticized for its cast being too feminine, that it's not a realistic portrayal of the lesbian community. I personally enjoy underrepresented feminine lesbians getting actual fictional representation, so long as it isn't for heterosexual males to jack off to, but on the downside, I disliked how the show made lesbians seem rather cliquey, another factor that has caused me downright misery in real life. Still, at least it's a clique I wouldn't mind being welcomed into, very much unlike the dour prison wive culture of OitNB.
Man, it sucks that OitNB is very stereotypical. The writers, producers and directors could have done a better job by having a much better diversity such as a feminine lesbian, or even bi-woman more attracted to other women. Hopefully in the future, there will a show about lesbians that does not enforce the cultural status quo.

Yeah, I can agree with that. While L Word had its own flaws, it seems that the show somewhat did a better portrayal with lesbians than OitNB despite it being very cliquey.

To me, it's too late to change 2010s tv. We should wait until the next decade for something different.

bring back music television
kill reality shows
and bring back family sitcoms.

Bring back "Six Feet Under"

They need to stop making shows that revolve around gays and lesbians.
Why exactly?

I want sitcoms to make a big comeback

Why exactly?


This is all you see in the news and on TV is about people coming out.

Oh boy, where do I begin? I think anyone who knows me knows that I cannot stand the current state of T.V. First off, as many people have mention, I think T.V. shows need to cut back on the whole "dark and serious" vibe. It does have it's place, but it's become completely overblown in the 2010s. Just because a show (or movie) is "darker", does NOT mean it's better. And also, in terms of cinematography, I would like for the whole colorless, gloomy trend to stop. It's really unappealing. And also, I'd like to see different types of shows coming out, not just serialized dramas and pretentious hipster dramadies/comedies. I'd like to see sitcoms make a comeback, fun action shows, fantasy, relatable dramas, creative sci-fi, mystery, funnier cartoons etc. (pretty much everything that made previous decades great when it came to T.V.).

Oh boy, where do I begin? I think anyone who knows me knows that I cannot stand the current state of T.V. First off, as many people have mention, I think T.V. shows need to cut back on the whole "dark and serious" vibe. It does have it's place, but it's become completely overblown in the 2010s. Just because a show (or movie) is "darker", does NOT mean it's better. And also, in terms of cinematography, I would like for the whole colorless, gloomy trend to stop. It's really unappealing. And also, I'd like to see different types of shows coming out, not just serialized dramas and pretentious hipster dramadies/comedies. I'd like to see sitcoms make a comeback, fun action shows, fantasy, relatable dramas, creative sci-fi, mystery, funnier cartoons etc. (pretty much everything that made previous decades great when it came to T.V.).

I agree with you 100%.

They need to stop making shows that revolve around gays and lesbians.

Haha what pornos were you watching Howard?  ;D

Haha what pornos were you watching Howard?  ;D


I wasn't watching pornos, some TV shows lately have been revolving around people "coming out", must be the newest thing now.

I wasn't watching pornos, some TV shows lately have been revolving around people "coming out", must be the newest thing now.

I don't watch a lot of TV myself so I wouldn't know.

bring back wholesome family sitcoms like what we used to watch during the 80's.

bring back wholesome family sitcoms like what we used to watch during the 80's.

Well, they are reviving Roseanne.....it's coming back next year with the original cast. It will be the first family sitcom in the "Trump Era".

Well, they are reviving Roseanne.....it's coming back next year with the original cast. It will be the first family sitcom in the "Trump Era".


and a few others that I heard were revived.

Oh boy, where do I begin? I think anyone who knows me knows that I cannot stand the current state of T.V. First off, as many people have mention, I think T.V. shows need to cut back on the whole "dark and serious" vibe. It does have it's place, but it's become completely overblown in the 2010s. Just because a show (or movie) is "darker", does NOT mean it's better. And also, in terms of cinematography, I would like for the whole colorless, gloomy trend to stop. It's really unappealing. And also, I'd like to see different types of shows coming out, not just serialized dramas and pretentious hipster dramadies/comedies. I'd like to see sitcoms make a comeback, fun action shows, fantasy, relatable dramas, creative sci-fi, mystery, funnier cartoons etc. (pretty much everything that made previous decades great when it came to T.V.).


Not everyone can do 'dark,' 'deep,' 'meta', and 'philosophical', good.  :o

Oh, and you're the on that said this, and I copied you in another thread/subject. Just giving credit where credit is due, and source where source is due.  :)

and a few others that I heard were revived.

Yeah...

NBC is reviving Will & Grace (NBC is trying to revive "Must See TV" on Thursdays).

Also, Dynasty is being rebooted.

Yeah...

NBC is reviving Will & Grace (NBC is trying to revive "Must See TV" on Thursdays).

Also, Dynasty is being rebooted.


What others could they revive? ???