While the transition from '00s to '10s occurred mostly on the '00s side of the decade marker, there were some holdovers that lasted a good ways into the '10s.  What year do you think the last traces of the '00s died?

I would say it happened in early 2013. For one, late '00s-early '10s style electropop died.  C'Mon by Ke$ha was the last song of that ilk.  It was the end of an era.  Secondly, the finale of the show The Office aired in May 2013.  The Office, in my opinion, was to the '00s what Friends was to the '90s.  Both shows held over well into the following decade.

What do you think?

Early 2013 sounds about right. I actually remember around the beginning of that year, I saw some teenagers wearing hipster fashion. When I was in high school (2008-2012), hipster fashion was non-existent. Indie-Hipster bands were growing in popularity starting around late 2012, but by 2013, they were officially a dominant force in this decade's culture. EDM was also getting really huge and basically replaced electropop. So yeah, early 2013 is pretty accurate.

Early 2013 sounds about right. I actually remember around the beginning of that year, I saw some teenagers wearing hipster fashion. When I was in high school (2008-2012), hipster fashion was non-existent. Indie-Hipster bands were growing in popularity starting around late 2012, but by 2013, they were officially a dominant force in this decade's culture. EDM was also getting really huge and basically replaced electropop. So yeah, early 2013 is pretty accurate.


I forgot about this.

2013 is the year that hipster fashion went into the mainstream.  It was also the year that emo/scene was gone completely.  While it had been out of style since 2010, you still saw some guys with the scene swoop as late as early 2013.  Not very many, but some.

EDM and teen pop also replaced electropop as you said and trap established itself as the dominant hip-hop sound.

While the transition from '00s to '10s occurred mostly on the '00s side of the decade marker, there were some holdovers that lasted a good ways into the '10s.  What year do you think the last traces of the '00s died?

I would say it happened in early 2013. For one, late '00s-early '10s style electropop died.  C'Mon by Ke$ha was the last song of that ilk.  It was the end of an era.  Secondly, the finale of the show The Office aired in May 2013.  The Office, in my opinion, was to the '00s what Friends was to the '90s.  Both shows held over well into the following decade.

What do you think?


I agree, except I think How I Met Your Mother was more like Friends.

I agree, except I think How I Met Your Mother was more like Friends.


True. You could say that show was what officially ended in the 2000's in a way

I would say the 2012-2013 school year was similar to the 2003-2004 school year in a sense that it was the last time that the former decades previous influences (particularly from the late period) were still pop culturally relevant. I've given examples in the past on why the Late 90's officially died in 2004, and I see 2013 as the year the Late 00's officially died. In the case for 2013
it's the fact that Electropop died and EDM
& Trap started to get big, and when the hipster trend was starting to take in mainstream popularity.

Early 2013 sounds about right. I actually remember around the beginning of that year, I saw some teenagers wearing hipster fashion. When I was in high school (2008-2012), hipster fashion was non-existent. Indie-Hipster bands were growing in popularity starting around late 2012, but by 2013, they were officially a dominant force in this decade's culture. EDM was also getting really huge and basically replaced electropop. So yeah, early 2013 is pretty accurate.


If only indie-hipster bands became dominant. Were there any indie famous bands that became mainstream besides the Lumineers? Don't say Chainsmokers or Imagine Dragons. Those guys are not hipster and they're definitely not indie.

Are there even "indie-hipster" bands in the top 100 right now? Have there been any in the last few years?

Personally, I think 2011 was when the last traces of the 2000s died. Ever since 2012, I've been hearing dubstep and hardcore rap nonstop that didn't sound nothing like the previous decade. It was also the year when the most heartbreaking and tragic events happened in the 2010s (e.g. Treyvon Martin murder, Aurora Dark Knight shooting, and Sandy Hook Elementary shooting).

I would say mid 2012 at the very earliest and early 2013 at the latest. I specifically remember at about September/October 2012 Hipster fashion seemed to get big in Ireland and Britain anyway. Skyfall was released in late 2012 which I think is a very mid 2010's film Gravity Falls was first aired in late 2012 also very mid 2010's  and Taylor Swift got big with We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, All this at the time told me that the 2000's were gone. But you're right about Ke$ha with her last few electropop songs on the radio in early 2013. I remember hearing Die Young at around March 2013 and it actually made me nostalgic for the electropop era even though it was just ending!

2009/ early 2010

2010

2011.

If we consider late 2001 to be the curtain call for the '90s, I think the 2010s equivalent came in late 2010, when smartphones took over and the iPad came out. Really, even January 1, 2010 was already very un-2000s.

But if your barometer of no 1990s influence is when Friends ended, I'd say it was late 2012. That's when Windows 8 came out and everything had a touchscreen, and also when those mall brand clothes went out of style. That was the end of any 2000s influence.

Also, ironically, I wouldn't be surprised if Friends was more popular than The Office even within the 2000s. ;D

If we consider late 2001 to be the curtain call for the '90s, I think the 2010s equivalent came in late 2010, when smartphones took over and the iPad came out. Really, even January 1, 2010 was already very un-2000s.

But if your barometer of no 1990s influence is when Friends ended, I'd say it was late 2012. That's when Windows 8 came out and everything had a touchscreen, and also when those mall brand clothes went out of style. That was the end of any 2000s influence.


2012 barely had 2000s influences though. When Windows 8 was released, many people already had an iPad or something that had a touchscreen.

2012 barely had 2000s influences though. When Windows 8 was released, many people already had an iPad or something that had a touchscreen.


Yeah, but late 2012 is when even laptop computers started having touchscreens. Windows 8 Metro also popularized the flat design aesthetic in North America.

Yeah, but late 2012 is when even laptop computers started having touchscreens. Windows 8 Metro also popularized the flat design aesthetic in North America.


Windows 8 wasn't really a popular OS to use. Not to mention that people had more influence with Windows 10, since everybody could've upgraded to it on a Windows 7/8 PC.

We are talking about traces. Traces means "a very small quantity, especially one too small to be accurately measured". Based on that definition then the last traces of the 2000s was ended after mid 2012.

The last traces of the 2000s ended in 2009 in my opinion.

2012, or 2013.

2012, or 2013.

What stuff from 2012 or 2013 have you noticed that's from the 00s? This reminds me of people who said there were still traces of the 90s in the early 2000s (even 2000), which there weren't imo.

What stuff from 2012 or 2013 have you noticed that's from the 00s? This reminds me of people who said there were still traces of the 90s in the early 2000s (even 2000), which there weren't imo.


In a political sense (before 9/11) there were some 90s trace during 2000 to September 10, 2001.

I would probably say mid/late 2013 was the last time there was still any real trace of lingering 2000s culture. You had the conclusions of certain late 2000s shows such as The Office, Dexter, and 30 Rock, plus it was the last stretch of time that home gaming was primarily 7th-gen. Blackberry phones were more or less done for by this point, although a few people still owned them (some still do). Around the second half of 2013, the 2010s look finally started to become more obvious, advancing beyond the neutral and washed-out scene influences of the first few year; (Anthony Padilla of Smosh, for example, still had a scene swoop in early 2013 but then eventually abandoned it.

Since the vast bulk of what I just listed is borderline 2000s/2010s, a more definitive end to 2000s culture would be 2011, which was not only an extremely pivotal year for international politics, but it was also when traditional rock fell completely out of the mainstream for good and also about the time smartphones became more popular than dumb phones.

If we consider late 2001 to be the curtain call for the '90s, I think the 2010s equivalent came in late 2010, when smartphones took over and the iPad came out. Really, even January 1, 2010 was already very un-2000s.

But if your barometer of no 1990s influence is when Friends ended, I'd say it was late 2012. That's when Windows 8 came out and everything had a touchscreen, and also when those mall brand clothes went out of style. That was the end of any 2000s influence.

Also, ironically, I wouldn't be surprised if Friends was more popular than The Office even within the 2000s. ;D


Yeah, I think Friends was bigger than The Office ever was.

Yeah, I think Friends was bigger than The Office ever was.


On a scale of 0 to 10, Friends was like a 9 and 1/2, The Office was like a 6.8/6.9 out of 10 in popularity.

I barely watched Friends and I barely watched The Office...:-X  :-X :-X.

What stuff from 2012 or 2013 have you noticed that's from the 00s? This reminds me of people who said there were still traces of the 90s in the early 2000s (even 2000), which there weren't imo.


I remember feeling like 2000 was pretty different even from 1999, and lamer. I can't put my finger on what exactly changed, though, but there seemed to be less intensity. However, I don't know if I'd say there was no 90s influence left in 2000.

On the TV side, I remember Who Wants to Be a Millionaire in 1999 and Survivor in 2000, and I didn't like either of those shows and really couldn't stand Survivor. I got the sense in 2000 that TV was going downhill fast. I can't think of any music from 2000 that was as intense as The Bad Touch by Bloodhound Gang or The Slim Shady LP, both from 1999.

2000 just felt kind of blah. Maybe part of it was that the millennium hype was over and that comes only once every thousand years. The late 90s had lots of disaster flicks which might have been influenced by some undercurrent of millenarian thinking in the culture. From the early 2000s, a lot of post-apocalyptic stuff became popular, like the zombie genre. For an example of early 2000s post-apocalyticism in music, Broken by Seether and Amy Lee comes to mind.

I barely watched Friends and I barely watched The Office...:-X  :-X :-X.


>:(  >:(  >:(  >:(

Just kidding, I don't care what you don't watch.  ;D

>:(  >:(  >:(  >:(

Just kidding, I don't care what you don't watch.  ;D

;) I know, I was justing stating it because I know that I'm in the minortiy of people who aren't fans of those shows. Not even my mother (born in 1963) was a fan of Friends.

I remember feeling like 2000 was pretty different even from 1999, and lamer. I can't put my finger on what exactly changed, though, but there seemed to be less intensity. However, I don't know if I'd say there was no 90s influence left in 2000.

On the TV side, I remember Who Wants to Be a Millionaire in 1999 and Survivor in 2000, and I didn't like either of those shows and really couldn't stand Survivor. I got the sense in 2000 that TV was going downhill fast. I can't think of any music from 2000 that was as intense as The Bad Touch by Bloodhound Gang or The Slim Shady LP, both from 1999.

2000 just felt kind of blah. Maybe part of it was that the millennium hype was over and that comes only once every thousand years. The late 90s had lots of disaster flicks which might have been influenced by some undercurrent of millenarian thinking in the culture. From the early 2000s, a lot of post-apocalyptic stuff became popular, like the zombie genre. For an example of early 2000s post-apocalyticism in music, Broken by Seether and Amy Lee comes to mind.


I felt like 2000 was 1999 Part 2.  :D

I barely watched Friends and I barely watched The Office...:-X  :-X :-X.


Fudge fudge fudge. No wonder you think That '70s Show is good.  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

I remember feeling like 2000 was pretty different even from 1999, and lamer. I can't put my finger on what exactly changed, though, but there seemed to be less intensity. However, I don't know if I'd say there was no 90s influence left in 2000.

On the TV side, I remember Who Wants to Be a Millionaire in 1999 and Survivor in 2000, and I didn't like either of those shows and really couldn't stand Survivor. I got the sense in 2000 that TV was going downhill fast. I can't think of any music from 2000 that was as intense as The Bad Touch by Bloodhound Gang or The Slim Shady LP, both from 1999.

2000 just felt kind of blah. Maybe part of it was that the millennium hype was over and that comes only once every thousand years. The late 90s had lots of disaster flicks which might have been influenced by some undercurrent of millenarian thinking in the culture. From the early 2000s, a lot of post-apocalyptic stuff became popular, like the zombie genre. For an example of early 2000s post-apocalyticism in music, Broken by Seether and Amy Lee comes to mind.

I turned a year old in 2000 and I don't remember it at all. However, from what you're saying and what others have said 2000 did seem lamer than 1999. Either way, I'm not a big fan of the late '90s and early '00s besides some movies, cartoons and music from then.

I felt like 2000 was 1999 Part 2.  :D


I think 2000 felt like a comedown or even a letdown after 1999, and I don't think it was just me who felt that way.

Fudge fudge fudge. No wonder you think That '70s Show is good.  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

I will fight you in a DEATH BATTLE. Will you accept my challenge weakling?  >:(

I turned a year old in 2000 and I don't remember it at all. However, from what you're saying and what others have said 2000 did seem lamer than 1999. Either way, I'm not a big fan of the late '90s and early '00s besides some movies, cartoons and music from then.


I wasn't a huge fan of the early 2000s at the time, but looking back, they were way better than the late 2000s and the 2010s in many aspects of culture and society.

I remember feeling like 2000 was pretty different even from 1999, and lamer. I can't put my finger on what exactly changed, though, but there seemed to be less intensity. However, I don't know if I'd say there was no 90s influence left in 2000.

On the TV side, I remember Who Wants to Be a Millionaire in 1999 and Survivor in 2000, and I didn't like either of those shows and really couldn't stand Survivor. I got the sense in 2000 that TV was going downhill fast. I can't think of any music from 2000 that was as intense as The Bad Touch by Bloodhound Gang or The Slim Shady LP, both from 1999.

2000 just felt kind of blah. Maybe part of it was that the millennium hype was over and that comes only once every thousand years. The late 90s had lots of disaster flicks which might have been influenced by some undercurrent of millenarian thinking in the culture. From the early 2000s, a lot of post-apocalyptic stuff became popular, like the zombie genre. For an example of early 2000s post-apocalyticism in music, Broken by Seether and Amy Lee comes to mind.


You didn't like The Real Slim Shady? ;D

Dawn of the Dead is my favourite early 2000s zombie movie. Also, does Mummy count?  ??? (though that one was pretty bad)

edit: oh Mummy was 1999. Okay, how about the vastly superior The Mummy Returns ;D

I wasn't a huge fan of the early 2000s at the time, but looking back, they were way better than the late 2000s and the 2010s in many aspects of culture and society.

Eh. I guess....early '00s fashion was worst than quintessential '80s fashion. Also, 2000 had the closest and most controversial Presidenial election in modern US history. The early 00s was a weird time but maybe that's because I was only 0-4 during that period.

I thought Eminem was attractive during his 2000 and 2002 albums!  :-[  :-[

I thought Beyonce was attractive as a 4 year old in 2003 :-[.

You didn't like The Real Slim Shady? ;D

Dawn of the Dead is my favourite early 2000s zombie movie. Also, does Mummy count?  ??? (though that one was pretty bad)

edit: oh Mummy was 1999. Okay, how about the vastly superior The Mummy Returns ;D


The Mummy (1999) is an awesome movie. The Real Slim Shady was good, along with the Marshall Mathers LP as a whole, but The Slim Shady LP was better. If I Had, Rock Bottom, and As the World Turns are Eminem's best songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWcvt3Nfnus&index=6&list=PLQvrQGaVGWuVuw24nkOqGuEMvXue8vttn

I thought Beyonce was attractive as a 4 year old in 2003 :-[.


Did you watch the Partition MV, which came out 10 years later?  :-[

Did you watch the Partition MV, which came out 10 years later?  :-[

Yes...:-\\.

I thought Beyonce was attractive as a 4 year old in 2003 :-[.


Nothing wrong with that! :P

Nothing wrong with that! :P

I know but Beyonce has become less attractive to me as time has gone on. That's not supposed to happen, I'm almost 18 now while I was 4 then...:P.

I know but Beyonce has become less attractive to me as time has gone on. That's not supposed to happen, I'm almost 18 now while I was 4 then...:P.


Why? Do you find her music too terrible to take?  :(

Why? Do you find her music too terrible to take?  :(

I don't find her music terrible but I definitely liker her solo music from 2003-2008 better than her solo music from 2011-present. However, that's not the reason why I find her less attractive. Back then, she was more down to Earth and she was charming. Now, she acts like a goddess and doesn't seem as down to Earth as back then. Also, her body.... :)....was "better" back then.

I turned a year old in 2000 and I don't remember it at all. However, from what you're saying and what others have said 2000 did seem lamer than 1999. Either way, I'm not a big fan of the late '90s and early '00s besides some movies, cartoons and music from then.


It's weird seeing so many 1999 babies. I was 12/13 in 1999. It was the most palpable transitional year I've ever experience.

It's weird seeing so many 1999 babies. I was 12/13 in 1999. It was the most palpable transitional year I've ever experience.

;D Did I make you feel old? I wish I was born earlier though....my sister is actually older than you...:(.

;D Did I make you feel old? I wish I was born earlier though....my sister is actually older than you...:(.


:) "Did I make you feel old?." Not in the way you'd expect. Let me explain. Approaching and turning 30 in 2016 was kinda bad and weird. I'm definitely not where I hoped to be but at some point, I had to admit to myself that I didn't really put any real effort to be where I wanted. The mid to late-20s was a great time to get things in order and I wasted it. But my turning 30s life crisis subsided a bit once I physically started to lay the groundwork for the future.

Annnnd what I just did there makes me feel old. I've gotten to this point where I feel super comfortable telling teenagers about life and trying to steer them in the right direction.

I mainly like to point out 1999 because usually, pop culture's change is gradual, seamless, or entirely unnoticeable. I remember the change in 99 being SOO in my face. I really hope to experience another year like it. 2008 comes second with all the electropop dance music, the recession and Obama. 1992 comes third because just briefly it seemed like the world was in the palm of Kurt Cobain's hand, the (albeit smaller) PCness vs anti-PCness battle, and Bill Clinton. I've got the feeling in my bones that we are nearing another upper tier in your face transitional year. I just hope it's good.

If we consider late 2001 to be the curtain call for the '90s, I think the 2010s equivalent came in late 2010, when smartphones took over and the iPad came out. Really, even January 1, 2010 was already very un-2000s.

But if your barometer of no 1990s influence is when Friends ended, I'd say it was late 2012. That's when Windows 8 came out and everything had a touchscreen, and also when those mall brand clothes went out of style. That was the end of any 2000s influence.

Also, ironically, I wouldn't be surprised if Friends was more popular than The Office even within the 2000s. ;D


I agree with this.  I think '00s culture was for the most part wrapped up by the end of 2010.  However there were some holdovers that lasted until around 2012/13.

:) "Did I make you feel old?." Not in the way you'd expect. Let me explain. Approaching and turning 30 in 2016 was kinda bad and weird. I'm definitely not where I hoped to be but at some point, I had to admit to myself that I didn't really put any real effort to be where I wanted. The mid to late-20s was a great time to get things in order and I wasted it. But my turning 30s life crisis subsided a bit once I physically started to lay the groundwork for the future.

Annnnd what I just did there makes me feel old. I've gotten to this point where I feel super comfortable telling teenagers about life and trying to steer them in the right direction.

I mainly like to point out 1999 because usually, pop culture's change is gradual, seamless, or entirely unnoticeable. I remember the change being SOO in my face. I really hope to experience another year like that. 2008 comes second with all the electropop dance music, the recession and Obama. 1992 comes third because just briefly the world was in the hands of Kurt Cobain, the (albeit smaller) PCness vs anti-PCness battle, and Bill Clinton. I'm getting the feeling in my bones that we are nearing another upper tier in your face transitional year. I just hope it's good.


I agree with you, 100%.

In 1998 you had artists such as Celine Dion, Sarah McLaughlin, Jewel, Fastball, Third Eye Blind, Marcy Playground, and Goo Goo Dolls.

Then in 1999 you had mostly teen pop and Latin pop. Adult contemporary swiftly went in the back burner.

It's one of the most sharpest changes/turns in music since 1964.

I remember feeling like 2000 was pretty different even from 1999, and lamer. I can't put my finger on what exactly changed, though, but there seemed to be less intensity. However, I don't know if I'd say there was no 90s influence left in 2000.

On the TV side, I remember Who Wants to Be a Millionaire in 1999 and Survivor in 2000, and I didn't like either of those shows and really couldn't stand Survivor. I got the sense in 2000 that TV was going downhill fast. I can't think of any music from 2000 that was as intense as The Bad Touch by Bloodhound Gang or The Slim Shady LP, both from 1999.

2000 just felt kind of blah. Maybe part of it was that the millennium hype was over and that comes only once every thousand years. The late 90s had lots of disaster flicks which might have been influenced by some undercurrent of millenarian thinking in the culture. From the early 2000s, a lot of post-apocalyptic stuff became popular, like the zombie genre. For an example of early 2000s post-apocalyticism in music, Broken by Seether and Amy Lee comes to mind.


Let's not forget the height of the Left Behind series.

That stupid series inspired me to have a small fundie phase...

ugh.

What everyone else said.

2013 was when XP really died out in the US and IMHO marked the transition to 2010s with Wii U, xbox One, etc coming out

Late '00s holdovers? Spring 2011. My freshman year of high school (whole thing) was the last time the late '00s had any relevance in teen culture (particularly music). Summer 2011 and onwards was pure early 2010s.

Late '00s holdovers? Spring 2011. My freshman year of high school (whole thing) was the last time the late '00s had any relevance in teen culture (particularly music). Summer 2011 and onwards was pure early 2010s.

Late 2000s holdovers I would agree lasted until 2013, but the late 00s don't count as the real 00s so I ignore them and put them with the 10s.

You didn't like The Real Slim Shady? ;D

Dawn of the Dead is my favourite early 2000s zombie movie. Also, does Mummy count?  ??? (though that one was pretty bad)

edit: oh Mummy was 1999. Okay, how about the vastly superior The Mummy Returns ;D


I was just listening to the Marshall Mathers LP and remembered a lot of songs I liked, especially The Way I Am. The video is also brilliant and depicts a dark and gritty look that really works, with lots of grays and blacks in the color scheme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQvteoFiMlg

So 2000 has good stuff and intensity and good use of dark themes and coloring. 

I was just listening to the Marshall Mathers LP and remembered a lot of songs I liked, especially The Way I Am. The video is also brilliant and depicts a dark and gritty look that really works

Eminem is the greatest rapper alive.

Late 2000s holdovers I would agree lasted until 2013, but the late 00s don't count as the real 00s so I ignore them and put them with the 10s.


We will see.  As 2009 gets farther and farther in the rear-view mirror, the late '00s does feel more "00s-ey" than it did at the time.  I think in the future the recession era will either be lumped in with the '00s or will be considered its own era like the Y2K era is.  That era didn't have a ton in common with the mid '10s.

Eminem is the greatest rapper alive.

I like Eminem but greatest rapper alive?  ???. I don't think so....:-X :-X :-X.

I like Eminem but greatest rapper alive?  ???. I don't think so....:-X :-X :-X.

Take that back!  >:(

We will see.  As 2009 gets farther and farther in the rear-view mirror, the late '00s does feel more "00s-ey" than it did at the time.  I think in the future the recession era will either be lumped in with the '00s or will be considered its own era like the Y2K era is.  That era didn't have a ton in common with the mid '10s.

Personally I see Y2K era as part of the 2000s, and the recession era does have quite a few things in common with the mid 2010s. Ever since 2008, changes have been gradual and we are not in a completely different world now compared to 2009. The late 00s just don't seem 2000s to me at all, even 2006 and 2007 don't have that strong 2000s culture. '05 and before is when 2000s culture was the strongest and really shined, especially the early 2000s.

I thought that the 10's overtook the 00's by 2012, and by around 2014, all 00's traces were dead (especially after the first half of 2014, where the Crimean Crisis and Elliot Rodger's rampage took place).

The 2012 transition for me could almost feel like the 1999 transition for older Millennials (just an opinion).

I thought that the 10's overtook the 00's by 2012, and by around 2014, all 00's traces were dead (especially after the first half of 2014, where the Crimean Crisis and Elliot Rodger's rampage took place).

The 2012 transition for me could almost feel like the 1999 transition for older Millennials (just an opinion).

There was no 2012 transition. There was a 2013 transition but I don't believe it was as big as 1999 and certainly not as big as 2008.

There was no 2012 transition. There was a 2013 transition but I don't believe it was as big as 1999 and certainly not as big as 2008.


Well, it's personal life business, that's probably why (I started getting depressed later in the year). I did sort of feel like late 2012 was a bit different than early 2012. It was also the year that mass shootings seemed to escalate to even greater levels (Chardon, Aurora Theater, Sandy Hook).

Also, as I could remember, girls started getting CRAZY about 1D that year, and it annoyed the hell out of me.

Since some of us(including Chris) feel like minor residual vestiges of the 90s lasted all the way till late 2006, I wonder if anyone here thinks traces of the 00s lasted until 2016.

I'd say no; the 90s took a few years longer to completely shower off than the 00s.

Since some of us(including Chris) feel like minor residual vestiges of the 90s lasted all the way till late 2006, I wonder if anyone here thinks traces of the 00s lasted until 2016.

I'd say no; the 90s took a few years longer to completely shower off than the 00s.


I would say the '00s were entirely gone by 2014 or possibly late 2013.  I think the real difference is the fact that the late '90s tend to be associated with the '90s while the late '00s tend to be associated with the '10s.

Take that back!  >:(


Biggie Smalls = greatest rapper of all-time

East Coast steals the show!  8)

I would say the '00s were entirely gone by 2014 or possibly late 2013.  I think the real difference is the fact that the late '90s tend to be associated with the '90s while the late '00s tend to be associated with the '10s.

What do you think is the cause of the 90s taking longer to get rid of than the 00s?

Take that back!  >:(

http://m.quickmeme.com/img/58/58569113949023fc7f343e5597126d6ef01615fa208605df3d4413cc57db6279.jpg

Biggie Smalls = greatest rapper of all-time

East Coast steals the show!  8)
And Tupac  ;)

I wanna say 2010. Since then, everything has been consistent with some leftovers from 2011/12.

I remember feeling like 2000 was pretty different even from 1999, and lamer. I can't put my finger on what exactly changed, though, but there seemed to be less intensity. However, I don't know if I'd say there was no 90s influence left in 2000.

On the TV side, I remember Who Wants to Be a Millionaire in 1999 and Survivor in 2000, and I didn't like either of those shows and really couldn't stand Survivor. I got the sense in 2000 that TV was going downhill fast. I can't think of any music from 2000 that was as intense as The Bad Touch by Bloodhound Gang or The Slim Shady LP, both from 1999.

2000 just felt kind of blah. Maybe part of it was that the millennium hype was over and that comes only once every thousand years. The late 90s had lots of disaster flicks which might have been influenced by some undercurrent of millenarian thinking in the culture. From the early 2000s, a lot of post-apocalyptic stuff became popular, like the zombie genre. For an example of early 2000s post-apocalyticism in music, Broken by Seether and Amy Lee comes to mind.


Yep. To expand... intense is a great word to describe 1999. I think some it had to do with all the Y2k energy coming to a head. I remember everyone preparing for all the computers to fail. A lot of people including my parents bought a small emergency stockpile just in case. Also, I really loved how even in 1999 a song like The Bad Touch was so silly and risqué even for a year where we felt like we had seen it all. There was such a backlash from conservatives against gaming and alternative culture after Columbine. For a moment Marilyn Manson was the poster boy for everything wrong in America to that crowd.

I feel the same way about everything you said about 2000 except one thing: I feel 2000 was 1999 without the edge. It's possible the backlash against alternative culture had a little to do with it. 2001 kinda sorta regained some of that edge with bands like Slipknot and SOAD. The second half of 2000 was particularly dull. And you hit the nail on the head with your tv observation. Those shows were ubiquitous and were being pumped out like crazy. It really did feel like television had fallen into a hole so deep it could never climb out. But with time comes change. May tv never get that bad again.

Popular culture in 1999 f*cking sucked. Teen pop? Mostly garbage. Latin pop? Meh. Bubblegum eurodance? Mostly trash. Movies? A few good ones but overall average year. TV shows? Yeah some good shows debuted in 1999 but 1999 was when a lot of good to great '90s shows ended. My birth year is ironically my least favorite year of the '90s...:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X.

Popular culture in 1999 f*cking sucked. Teen pop? Mostly garbage. Latin pop? Meh. Bubblegum eurodance? Mostly trash. Movies? A few good ones but overall average year. TV shows? Yeah some good shows debuted in 1999 but 1999 was when a lot of good to great '90s shows ended. My birth year is ironically my least favorite year of the '90s...:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X.


Honestly, 1999 and 2000 were both really lame years to start with. I only like it if it has to deal with certain events (e.g. VHS and DVD releases).

Honestly, 1999 and 2000 were both really lame years to start with. I only like it if it has to deal with certain events (e.g. VHS and DVD releases).

I don't know what VHS and DVD releases you're talking about but not even those can make me like the pop culture of '99.

Popular culture in 1999 f*cking sucked. Teen pop? Mostly garbage. Latin pop? Meh. Bubblegum eurodance? Mostly trash. Movies? A few good ones but overall average year. TV shows? Yeah some good shows debuted in 1999 but 1999 was when a lot of good to great '90s shows ended. My birth year is ironically my least favorite year of the '90s...:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X.


Yes it sucked. But the vibe was great. I think the 1999-2000 school year had the best vibe of my childhood.

I don't know what VHS and DVD releases you're talking about but not even those can make me like the pop culture of '99.


It's not really specific VHS/DVD releases. It's actually just any releases within VHS tapes and DVDs. I'm not really into pop culture from the late 90s.

Yes it sucked. But the vibe was great. I think the 1999-2000 school year had the best vibe of my childhood.

The Y2K/Millennium vibe was great but yes the pop culture sucked overall.


It's not really specific VHS/DVD releases. It's actually just any releases within VHS tapes and DVDs. I'm not really into pop culture from the late 90s.

Huh? ???. I still don't get what you're saying but at least we agree on late '90s pop culture.

Huh? ???. I still don't get what you're saying but at least we agree on late '90s pop culture.


I'm fascinated with VHS. That's what I'm trying to say.

Popular culture in 1999 f*cking sucked. Teen pop? Mostly garbage. Latin pop? Meh. Bubblegum eurodance? Mostly trash. Movies? A few good ones but overall average year. TV shows? Yeah some good shows debuted in 1999 but 1999 was when a lot of good to great '90s shows ended. My birth year is ironically my least favorite year of the '90s...:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X.


I don't particularly like the popular culture from 1999 either, but it's not my least favourite of the decade. Personally, my least favourite year of the 90s is 1990. It was a really bland year in music and popular culture, in my opinion.

I'm fascinated with VHS. That's what I'm trying to say.

So....I still don't understand but whatever. What does liking VHS tapes correlate to somewhat wanting to see late '90s?


I don't particularly like the popular culture from 1999 either, but it's not my least favourite of the decade. Personally, my least favourite year of the 90s is 1990. It was a really bland year in music and popular culture, in my opinion.

That's fine. I like the pop culture and (most) popular music from 1990. In my opinion, 1999 was more bland than 1990.

So....I still don't understand but whatever. What does liking VHS tapes correlate to somewhat wanting to see late '90s?


I think it has to deal with something personal than with pop culture.

I think it has to deal with something personal than with pop culture.

Bro, I'm trying to understand you but sorry I'm just lost.

Bro, I'm trying to understand you but sorry I'm just lost.


Yeah, I thought VHS was part of mainstream pop culture during 1999, but I guess nobody really cared. Even 18 years after the year passed, I think it was more of a general statement than a cultural one.

Yeah, I thought VHS was part of mainstream pop culture during 1999, but I guess nobody really cared. Even 18 years after the year passed, I think it was more of a general statement than a cultural one.

So, what you're saying is that you would like to experience 1999 because VHS tapes were still relevant but not because of anything else?

So, what you're saying is that you would like to experience 1999 because VHS tapes were still relevant but not because of anything else?


Well... yeah.  :-[

Well... yeah.  :-[

OK, well that's a rather dull reason....:-\\. However, you do you....I guess :).

OK, well that's a rather dull reason....:-\\. However, you do you....I guess :).


Honestly, I think I don't really like the late 90s as much as I see it. Including 1999. Me saying that is pretty stupid and it might be depressing if I only want to view it for VHS sh*t.

So....I still don't understand but whatever. What does liking VHS tapes correlate to somewhat wanting to see late '90s?
That's fine. I like the pop culture and (most) popular music from 1990. In my opinion, 1999 was more bland than 1990.


I agree; 1990 (and even the early portion of 1991) still had glam metal, which is a genre I like.

I agree; 1990 (and even the early portion of 1991) still had glam metal, which is a genre I like.

Yep. Glam metal was good 👍.

I agree; 1990 (and even the early portion of 1991) still had glam metal, which is a genre I like.


I honestly don't know why people loved 1999 so much. It was just a year where Bill Clinton was almost impeached, while everyone kept obsessing over the Internet. It was more culturally 00s than 90s. It's pretty sad to think it like that. Late 90s culture was already ostracized by late 1998, so it wasn't truly 90s by then.

Honestly, I think I don't really like the late 90s as much as I see it. Including 1999. Me saying that is pretty stupid and it might be depressing if I only want to view it for VHS sh*t.

OK. Don't beat yourself up over it :).


I honestly don't know why people loved 1999 so much. It was just a year where Bill Clinton was almost impeached, while everyone kept obsessing over the Internet. It was more culturally 00s than 90s. It's pretty sad to think it like that. Late 90s culture was already ostracized by late 1998, so it wasn't truly 90s by then.

Yep. I don't see why either.

I honestly don't know why people loved 1999 so much. It was just a year where Bill Clinton was almost impeached, while everyone kept obsessing over the Internet. It was more culturally 00s than 90s. It's pretty sad to think it like that. Late 90s culture was already ostracized by late 1998, so it wasn't truly 90s by then.


You'd have many people say that it's more 90's, and others who say it's more 00's.

1999 has an identity crisis for sure. And I think Clinton was "impeached" in December 1998, not 1999.

You'd have many people say that it's more 90's, and others who say it's more 00's.

1999 has an identity crisis for sure. And I think Clinton was "impeached" in December 1998, not 1999.

Slick Willy missed being removed in Jan. 1999.

Also, sites like BuzzFeed think of 1999 as more '90s.

1999 has an identity crisis for sure. And I think Clinton was "impeached" in December 1998, not 1999.


Still, late 1998 wasn't truly 90s by a standpoint. So the impeachment didn't make it all 90s.


Also, sites like BuzzFeed think of 1999 as more '90s.


Buzzfeed is basically the same website who thinks songs from 2004 count as early 2000s. It's not really that special.

Buzzfeed is basically the same website who thinks songs from 2004 count as early 2000s. It's not really that special.

I agree....I hate when they do that. Even songs from 2005-2007 they will put as early '00s....>:(.

Still, late 1998 wasn't truly 90s by a standpoint. So the impeachment didn't make it all 90s.

Buzzfeed is basically the same website who thinks songs from 2004 count as early 2000s. It's not really that special.


I tend to see younger people associate stuff that late as being part of the 90's and not so much of people who actually experienced the 90's from start to finish.

If you ask someone born in 1983 how the 90's were to him or her, it would be incredibly different than if you do with someone born in the mid to late 90's for example.

Another thing: I sometimes would even see people lump Avril Lavigne as a 90's musician.

I honestly thought that the 90's died somewhere in the 1998-1999 school year (based on my research, as I was only a newborn in Summer 1999).

I tend to see younger people associate stuff that late as being part of the 90's and not so much of people who actually experienced the 90's from start to finish.

If you ask someone born in 1983 how the 90's were to him or her, it would be incredibly different than if you do with someone born in the mid to late 90's for example.

Another thing: I sometimes would even see people lump Avril Lavigne as a 90's musician.

I honestly thought that the 90's died somewhere in the 1998-1999 school year (based on my research, as I was only a newborn in Summer 1999).

I agree wholeheartedly.

I tend to see younger people associate stuff that late as being part of the 90's and not so much of people who actually experienced the 90's from start to finish.


Yeah, it's always people who barely remember the 90s who keep saying that 1999 was a 90s year. Anything within the 90s don't really compare well with 1999. Especially with how most stuff from 1999 could compare easily with 2000-2006.


I honestly thought that the 90's died somewhere in the 1998-1999 school year (based on my research, as I was only a newborn in Summer 1999).


Yeah, the 1998-1999 school year was pretty much the last cultural 90s year that I could tolerate. Aside from that, 1999 as a whole was more transitional than an actual 90s year.

Yeah, it's always people who barely remember the 90s who keep saying that 1999 was a 90s year. Anything within the 90s don't really compare well with 1999. Especially with how most stuff from 1999 could compare easily with 2000-2006.

Yeah, the 1998-1999 school year was pretty much the last cultural 90s year that I could tolerate. Aside from that, 1999 as a whole was more transitional than an actual 90s year.

So does this mean that we aren't '90s babies? :o

So does this mean that we aren't '90s babies? :o


No. We still are.

Yeah, it's always people who barely remember the 90s who keep saying that 1999 was a 90s year. Anything within the 90s don't really compare well with 1999. Especially with how most stuff from 1999 could compare easily with 2000-2006.

Yeah, the 1998-1999 school year was pretty much the last cultural 90s year that I could tolerate. Aside from that, 1999 as a whole was more transitional than an actual 90s year.


1999 is very comparable to late 1996-1998 in a lot of aspects.

No. We still are.

;D ;D ;D I know, I was just being silly...:P.

1999 is very comparable to late 1996-1998 in a lot of aspects.

How so?

How so?


Windows 95, the teen pop stuff (not really so much of the 1996-97 school year but it started there), nu-metal (same with teen pop, started in the 96-97 school year but not really popular yet), Jerry Springer was very popular, and PS1 and N64 were the kings of video game consoles.

So does this mean that we aren't '90s babies? :o


Numerically, we are. But culturally, I don't really think so. We're more like Y2K era babies.

Numerically, we are. But culturally, I don't really think so. We're more like Y2K era babies.

You're a Y2K baby because you was born 11 days before Y2K...:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X. Me and T-Rex aren't Y2K babies :).

Windows 95, the teen pop stuff (not really so much of the 1996-97 school year but it started there), nu-metal (same with teen pop, started in the 96-97 school year but not really popular yet), Jerry Springer was very popular, and PS1 and N64 were the kings of video game consoles.

Ok, I get your point. However, 1999 was still different from late 1996-1998 is a lot of other aspects.

Popular culture in 1999 f*cking sucked. Teen pop? Mostly garbage. Latin pop? Meh. Bubblegum eurodance? Mostly trash. Movies? A few good ones but overall average year. TV shows? Yeah some good shows debuted in 1999 but 1999 was when a lot of good to great '90s shows ended. My birth year is ironically my least favorite year of the '90s...:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X.


Hmm...hardcore talk for someone who was just a baby at the time. lol. This was 1999 in music for me:


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Popular culture in 1999 f*cking sucked. Teen pop? Mostly garbage. Latin pop? Meh. Bubblegum eurodance? Mostly trash. Movies? A few good ones but overall average year. TV shows? Yeah some good shows debuted in 1999 but 1999 was when a lot of good to great '90s shows ended. My birth year is ironically my least favorite year of the '90s...:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X.


Even though I really didn't like 1999 when it came to music as well, do not deny that it also had a few gems too (like Blink-182's "Small Things").

I actually agree with BornIn86 here.

Even though I really didn't like 1999 when it came to music as well, do not deny that it also had a few gems too (like Blink-182's "Small Things").

I actually agree with BornIn86 here.

I never once said that 1999 didn't have a few gems.

I don't particularly like the popular culture from 1999 either, but it's not my least favourite of the decade. Personally, my least favourite year of the 90s is 1990. It was a really bland year in music and popular culture, in my opinion.




1990 was a good year for movies. Ghost, Home Alone, Pretty Woman, Dances with Wolves, and Goodfellas, Edward Scissorhands and a bunch of other good movies are from 1990. What's most impressive is that year had good films across such an array of genres/styles.

Sorry about the no spoiler thing. I don't know what that is. And I was just teasing you, dude. It was opportunity to 1999 music. Also, I think you're able to erase the youtube vids from your quote.

Okay, sorry for my reaction...;). I just deleted my post.

Anyways, seriously though put a spoiler over the videos. Just add "" over the YouTube links. Please for the sake of my PC not lagging.


1990 was a good year for movies. Ghost, Home Alone, Pretty Woman, Dances with Wolves, and Goodfellas, Edward Scissorhands and a bunch of other good movies are from 1990. What's most impressive is that year had good films across such an array of genres/styles.

I absolutely agree.

Yep. To expand... intense is a great word to describe 1999. I think some it had to do with all the Y2k energy coming to a head. I remember everyone preparing for all the computers to fail. A lot of people including my parents bought a small emergency stockpile just in case. Also, I really loved how even in 1999 a song like The Bad Touch was so silly and risqué even for a year where we felt like we had seen it all. There was such a backlash from conservatives against gaming and alternative culture after Columbine. For a moment Marilyn Manson was the poster boy for everything wrong in America to that crowd.

I feel the same way about everything you said about 2000 except one thing: I feel 2000 was 1999 without the edge. It's possible the backlash against alternative culture had a little to do with it. 2001 kinda sorta regained some of that edge with bands like Slipknot and SOAD. The second half of 2000 was particularly dull. And you hit the nail on the head with your tv observation. Those shows were ubiquitous and were being pumped out like crazy. It really did feel like television had fallen into a hole so deep it could never climb out. But with time comes change. May tv never get that bad again.


It sounds about right to say that 2000 was 1999 without the edge, though there was some edgy stuff in 2000 and some bright spots, like the Marshall Mathers LP and Gundam Wing on Cartoon Network. In fact, thinking back on it, 2000 is when I started to get into some anime, though I was introduced to it in the late 90s.

Hell, I remember this commercial playing all the time in 1998/99.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIfu-FsxG00

I also remember seeing Golden Boy, the episode where the guy is struggling to keep his boner in his pants, at a party at a friend's house in 1999. It was hilarious, plus one of my friends blew a big, bare-assed fart on a guy's face who had passed out on the couch upstairs. The recipient of this fart was a douche anyway, so it was hilarious, and when we replayed the VHS footage of the fart after watching Golden Boy (yes, someone filmed the fart on a camcorder), my friend remarked that the guy "got the full aroma" when someone stated that he even pulled down his pants.

Fun times in 1999!

Anyway, though I had some introduction to anime in the late 90s, 2000 is when I got into it in a bigger way. My two younger brothers helped get me into it on Adult Swim.

Having older and younger siblings, and older and younger friends, helps broaden a person's cultural horizons.

It sounds about right to say that 2000 was 1999 without the edge, though there was some edgy stuff in 2000 and some bright spots, like the Marshall Mathers LP and Gundam Wing on Cartoon Network. In fact, thinking back on it, 2000 is when I started to get into some anime, though I was introduced to it in the late 90s.

Hell, I remember this commercial playing all the time in 1998/99.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIfu-FsxG00

I also remember seeing Golden Boy, the episode where the guy is struggling to keep his boner in his pants, at a party at a friend's house in 1999. It was hilarious, plus one of my friends blew a big, bare-assed fart on a guy's face who had passed out on the couch upstairs. The recipient of this fart was a douche anyway, so it was hilarious, and when we replayed the VHS footage of the fart after watching Golden Boy (yes, someone filmed the fart on a camcorder), my friend remarked that the guy "got the full aroma" when someone stated that he even pulled down his pants.

Fun times in 1999!

Anyway, though I had some introduction to anime in the late 90s, 2000 is when I got into it in a bigger way. My two younger brothers helped get me into it on Adult Swim.

Having older and younger siblings, and older and younger friends, helps broaden a person's cultural horizons.


I'm an idiot so instead of figuring out how to do a spoiler or hide thing, I'm just gonna delete most of the vids.

I got into Robotech somewhere before Gundam. Robotech led me to Macross. I feel like that was the first "real" (non Sailor Moon and DBZ) anime I ever got into.

Anime was pretty heavy back in the 90s. On one hand, I felt cool getting into this new thing but also feeling a little put off by it cuz it could be slightly off putting and understood it to a point.

I didn't get into Macross until the early 2000s, but it's one of the best. Also, I've wanted to mention this guy on these boards for a while and here's my opportunity. The HappyConsoleGamer on youtube has fantastic videos that would be of interest to many here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-J91e97tQg

This one's on his Macross memories from 1987. His stories are amazingly relatable and his videos are pretty much all worth watching.

Popular culture in 1999 f*cking sucked. Teen pop? Mostly garbage. Latin pop? Meh. Bubblegum eurodance? Mostly trash. Movies? A few good ones but overall average year. TV shows? Yeah some good shows debuted in 1999 but 1999 was when a lot of good to great '90s shows ended. My birth year is ironically my least favorite year of the '90s...:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X.


Yeah, what really bugs me are people who unconditionally love the year 1999 (probably because it is technically a "90s" year by title alone), and yet bash the year 2000.

I've never seen people do that.

I do however see people bash 2001, solely because of 9/11.

Slick Willy missed being removed in Jan. 1999.

Also, sites like BuzzFeed think of 1999 as more '90s.


I'm not surprised. This is the same website that calls stuff that was popular from 2004-2006 "early 00s".

I've never seen people do that.

I do however see people bash 2001, solely because of 9/11.


It's not as common on this website. But on Youtube and other places on the internet, there all these people who claim "everything went to hell once 2000 hit".

Back in 2010, post-2000 was the "suck cutoff" for most people.

Then around 2014 I noticed the suck cutoff was moved up to post-2006.

And now I'm hearing a crapton of people say "Everything went to sheesh once we hit 2010".

Yeah, what really bugs me are people who unconditionally love the year 1999 (probably because it is technically a "90s" year by title alone), and yet bash the year 2000.

True. I agree


I've never seen people do that.

I do however see people bash 2001, solely because of 9/11.

Besides 9/11, I think 2001 was an OK to good year...:-X.


I'm not surprised. This is the same website that calls stuff that was popular from 2004-2006 "early 00s".

I know. It's so stupid and annoying when they do that.


It's not as common on this website. But on Youtube and other places on the internet, there all these people who claim "everything went to hell once 2000 hit".

I remember seeing that a lot around 2011-2013 but not so much anymore.


Back in 2010, post-2000 was the "suck cutoff" for most people.

Then around 2014 I noticed the suck cutoff was moved up to post-2006.

And now I'm hearing a crapton of people say "Everything went to sheesh once we hit 2010".

Yeah, that's about right.

Back in 2010, post-2000 was the "suck cutoff" for most people.

Then around 2014 I noticed the suck cutoff was moved up to post-2006.

And now I'm hearing a crapton of people say "Everything went to sheesh once we hit 2010".


There's something to each of those dates, though. The passage of time puts the suck factor in new perspective and softens it, and people forget the initial overall disappointment of the year and remember the good parts, but there still was a shift that people noticed as a comedown from something better.

There's something to each of those dates, though. The passage of time puts the suck factor in new perspective and softens it, and people forget the initial overall disappointment of the year and remember the good parts, but there still was a shift that people noticed as a comedown from something better.

As time goes on, the nostalgia increases for many people. I wonder if in 15 years (2032) will I become nostalgic for 2017 (I'll be 33 years old)....:-X  :-X  :-X.

As time goes on, the nostalgia increases for many people. I wonder if in 15 years (2032) will I become nostalgic for 2017 (I'll be 33 years old)....:-X  :-X  :-X.


As long as there's some things important to you and you feel some passion in 2017, you probably will be nostalgic for this year or this era. But nostalgia isn't so simple as to make all years relative so that it's just a matter of time before you feel the same nostalgia for each of them. Some years are more memorable than others in a good way, both personally and more broadly for large sections of society or even for a society as a whole.

As long as there's some things important to you and you feel some passion in 2017, you probably will be nostalgic for this year or this era. But nostalgia isn't so simple as to make all years relative so that it's just a matter of time before you feel the same nostalgia for each of them. Some years are more memorable than others in a good way, both personally and more broadly for large sections of society or even for a society as a whole.

That is true but the past few years (2013/2014-present) just haven't sparked much joy in me. I doubt I will be nostalgic for them but hey...you never know.

There's something to each of those dates, though. The passage of time puts the suck factor in new perspective and softens it, and people forget the initial overall disappointment of the year and remember the good parts, but there still was a shift that people noticed as a comedown from something better.


I agree.  With popular culture, I experienced this for the first time ever in the mid '10s.  Top 40 isn't what it was in the early '10s and before.  You have to get back to the early '90s before I can say I would prefer mid '10s music.

Like you say though, part of it is "good ole day" syndrome.  Like when I look back at 2007, I remember important events that affected me both good and bad.  We remember the music we liked and the fashion we were into.  However, we have tendencies to gloss over the negatives of every day life back then.  For all the good songs that came out in 2007, there are a ton of terrible one-hit wonders that nobody remembers anymore.

That is true but the past few years (2013/2014-present) just haven't sparked much joy in me. I doubt I will be nostalgic for them but hey...you never know.


You will be very nostalgic for your life right now in just a few years.  You will look back on your senior year of high school with much more fondness than you can imagine now about halfway into college.  Enjoy this time of your life.

I graduated in 2004 and I remember that it was quite stressful plus I was dealing with a relationship issue that had me quite depressed.  However, despite all that, it was still an exciting time of my life and by about 2006 I started to look back at that time pretty fondly.

You will be very nostalgic for your life right now in just a few years.  You will look back on your senior year of high school with much more fondness than you can imagine now about halfway into college.  Enjoy this time of your life.

I graduated in 2004 and I remember that it was quite stressful plus I was dealing with a relationship issue that had me quite depressed.  However, despite all that, it was still an exciting time of my life and by about 2006 I started to look back at that time pretty fondly.

That's great. Don't get me wrong, my life hasn't sucked in the past 3-4 years but I just highly doubt if I will be nostalgic for the mid 2010s. In fact, I got bullied a bit in elementary school (2005-2010) but I would rather relive then than now.

That is true but the past few years (2013/2014-present) just haven't sparked much joy in me. I doubt I will be nostalgic for them but hey...you never know.


There might be some bits and pieces here and there that you remember fondly. I think it's important to realize that nostalgia really is for some periods more than others. Just having some good memories to get excited about from any given year or era doesn't mean it's all relative. But there will likely be some things you think back on and miss from this time.

There might be some bits and pieces here and there that you remember fondly. I think it's important to realize that nostalgia really is for some periods more than others. Just having some good memories to get excited about from any given year or era doesn't mean it's all relative. But there will likely be some things you think back on and miss from this time.

The only thing I can see me missing is being an older teen. Other than that, not much else....I prefer even 2010-2012 over 2013-present.

That's great. Don't get me wrong, my life hasn't sucked in the past 3-4 years but I just highly doubt if I will be nostalgic for the mid 2010s. In fact, I got bullied a bit in elementary school (2005-2010) but I would rather relive then than now.


There's events in my life in every 90s year that were pretty bad and yet also a lot of good things. The culture of the time still stands out for me and a lot of good things in my personal life. There's usually a mix of good and bad in any period and the good parts are likely to be remembered fondly after enough time passes.

But this still doesn't make things simply relative. Some periods stand out a lot more than others in a good way because the good was either really good or the bad wasn't as bad or was more readily ignored.

Like I've noticed with my father, he can get nostalgic for just about any period since the 50s, but his nostalgia centers on the 50s and early 60s more than any other period, and after that his nostalgia is choosier, like for certain songs or feelings at certain times from the latter 60s, the 70s, 80s, even the 90s. Never heard him talk nostalgically about anything in the 2000s, though. So maybe nostalgia has a cutoff point later in life, or it's really just a few things later in life that are worth thinking back on when you get even later into life.

There's events in my life in every 90s year that were pretty bad and yet also a lot of good things. The culture of the time still stands out for me and a lot of good things in my personal life. There's usually a mix of good and bad in any period and the good parts are likely to be remembered fondly after enough time passes.

But this still doesn't make things simply relative. Some periods stand out a lot more than others in a good way because the good was either really good or the bad wasn't as bad or was more readily ignored.

Like I've noticed with my father, he can get nostalgic for just about any period since the 50s, but his nostalgia centers on the 50s and early 60s more than any other period, and after that his nostalgia is choosier, like for certain songs or feelings at certain times from the latter 60s, the 70s, 80s, even the 90s. Never heard him talk nostalgically about anything in the 2000s, though. So maybe nostalgia has a cutoff point later in life, or it's really just a few things later in life that are worth thinking back on when you get even later into life.

I definitely remember the bad parts of my elementary school days...yet I get nostalgic for them. I guess I'll just have wait and see.

I definitely remember the bad parts of my elementary school days...yet I get nostalgic for them. I guess I'll just have wait and see.


It's also the case that nostalgia doesn't just rely on forgetting the negative and remembering the positive. My dad, for example, is fully aware of some terrible things that happened to him in the 50s and early 60s, yet he loves those times. I'm fully aware of terrible things from my life in the 90s yet am nostalgic for those times. It's not the bad things I miss but the good ones.

Aside from the relaxed culture and good music, the 90s had a lot of sheeshty aspects, like high divorce rates and wacky families (hence the dysfunctional family sitcom). Some people nostalgic for the 90s likely screen out the bad parts, but a lot are aware of them and still wish they could have the good parts back.

It's not as common on this website. But on Youtube and other places on the internet, there all these people who claim "everything went to hell once 2000 hit".


I don't unconditionally love 1999 and hate 2000. 2000 was actually kind of idyllic in a weird way. 1999 culture cemented and became THE culture as people marinated on the material released in 99.

LOL at the funny auto-censoring of the word sheeshty

It's also the case that nostalgia doesn't just rely on forgetting the negative and remembering the positive. My dad, for example, is fully aware of some terrible things that happened to him in the 50s and early 60s, yet he loves those times. I'm fully aware of terrible things from my life in the 90s yet am nostalgic for those times. It's not the bad things I miss but the good ones.

Aside from the relaxed culture and good music, the 90s had a lot of sheeshty aspects, like high divorce rates and wacky families (hence the dysfunctional family sitcom). Some people nostalgic for the 90s likely screen out the bad parts, but a lot are aware of them and still ish they could have the good parts back.

I mean yeah in every decade there is good and bad because humans are imperfect beings. However, yes we rather primarily remember the good parts. I mean why would you want to remember the bad? :P.

Like I've noticed with my father, he can get nostalgic for just about any period since the 50s, but his nostalgia centers on the 50s and early 60s more than any other period, and after that his nostalgia is choosier, like for certain songs or feelings at certain times from the latter 60s, the 70s, 80s, even the 90s. Never heard him talk nostalgically about anything in the 2000s, though. So maybe nostalgia has a cutoff point later in life, or it's really just a few things later in life that are worth thinking back on when you get even later into life.


I am kind of this way.  I get very nostalgic for the late '90s/early '00s up to my high school graduation in 2004 and I get even more nostalgic for 2009-12.  I'm a bit choosier with the mid '00s and I have never desired to go back and relive them.  Either send me to 1999 or to 2008.  I feel like the mid '10s will also be a choosy period of my life where some things I will look back fondly on, but for the most part won't miss (much like the mid '00s were for me).

It's also the case that nostalgia doesn't just rely on forgetting the negative and remembering the positive. My dad, for example, is fully aware of some terrible things that happened to him in the 50s and early 60s, yet he loves those times. I'm fully aware of terrible things from my life in the 90s yet am nostalgic for those times. It's not the bad things I miss but the good ones.


I can relate to this with 2009.  2009 was both the absolute best and the worst year of my life.  However, the good that happened that year was so impactful on the overall course of my life that it overshadows the bad and I would relive it in a heartbeat.  Thing is, when 2009 winded down, I was glad for the year to be gone because at the time, the bad seemed a lot more impactful than I remember it today.

I am kind of this way.  I get very nostalgic for the late '90s/early '00s up to my high school graduation in 2004 and I get even more nostalgic for 2009-12.  I'm a bit choosier with the mid '00s and I have never desired to go back and relive them.  Either send me to 1999 or to 2008.  I feel like the mid '10s will also be a choosy period of my life where some things I will look back fondly on, but for the most part won't miss (much like the mid '00s were for me).

That's exactly how I feel I will remember 2013-2017.

Since some of us(including Chris) feel like minor residual vestiges of the 90s lasted all the way till late 2006, I wonder if anyone here thinks traces of the 00s lasted until 2016.

I'd say no; the 90s took a few years longer to completely shower off than the 00s.

I disagree. The 90s left way quicker than the 00s did. The 2010s and 2000s aren't as different as the 90s and 00s. If someone said the 00s lasted until 2011 I would not completely disagree with them and throw that idea away, but if someone said the 90s lasted until 2001, I most definitely would.

I thought that the 10's overtook the 00's by 2012, and by around 2014, all 00's traces were dead (especially after the first half of 2014, where the Crimean Crisis and Elliot Rodger's rampage took place).

The 2012 transition for me could almost feel like the 1999 transition for older Millennials (just an opinion).

I may be biased with my personal life because in 2012 I was very depressed but got out of that depression in 2013.

I disagree. The 90s left way quicker than the 00s did. The 2010s and 2000s aren't as different as the 90s and 00s. If someone said the 00s lasted until 2011 I would not completely disagree with them and throw that idea away, but if someone said the 90s lasted until 2001, I most definitely would.


What do you think were the biggest similarities between the 00s and the 10s?

What do you think were the biggest similarities between the 00s and the 10s?

Mainly the internet and attitudes in general. Music on the radio is still about sex and drugs and fashion isn't drastically different. But the 00s and 10s are different no doubt, I can list far more differences than similarities. But compared to say the 90s and 00s, or even the 90s and 80s, 00s and 10s are a lot more similar to each other.

I'm sorry if I'm in the minority, but I really think the late 90s were not awful especially 1999. First and foremost, there was more than just teen pop and eurodance. I take it most people here seem to forget about rock, hip-hop, R&B and even adult contemporary that were all on the charts in that era. Second, that era had amazing video games at that time considering that it introduced many franchises that some are now classics. Third, the economy was so fantastic that almost everyone could afford anything and last, there were many memorable TV shows that unfortunately seem to be difficult to find these days (even on Netflix).

I'm sorry if I'm in the minority, but I really think the late 90s were not awful especially 1999. First and foremost, there was more than just teen pop and eurodance. I take it most people here seem to forget about rock, hip-hop, R&B and even adult contemporary that were all on the charts in that era. Second, that era had amazing video games at that time considering that it introduced many franchises that some are now classics. Third, the economy was so fantastic that almost everyone could afford anything and last, there were many memorable TV shows that unfortunately seem to be difficult to find these days (even on Netflix).


I agree with this.  The late '90s was a very diverse time for music.  You had a lot of different genres at the time and nothing really seemed to dominate.  If you were in middle school at the time, especially if you are female, I can understand why you would think it was all about teen pop.  That was a big deal, but it was by no means dominant.

I'm sorry if I'm in the minority, but I really think the late 90s were not awful especially 1999. First and foremost, there was more than just teen pop and eurodance. I take it most people here seem to forget about rock, hip-hop, R&B and even adult contemporary that were all on the charts in that era. Second, that era had amazing video games at that time considering that it introduced many franchises that some are now classics. Third, the economy was so fantastic that almost everyone could afford anything and last, there were many memorable TV shows that unfortunately seem to be difficult to find these days (even on Netflix).

The late 90s were fine. I only remember a little bit of it and it seemed like a good time.

I'm sorry if I'm in the minority, but I really think the late 90s were not awful especially 1999. First and foremost, there was more than just teen pop and eurodance. I take it most people here seem to forget about rock, hip-hop, R&B and even adult contemporary that were all on the charts in that era. Second, that era had amazing video games at that time considering that it introduced many franchises that some are now classics. Third, the economy was so fantastic that almost everyone could afford anything and last, there were many memorable TV shows that unfortunately seem to be difficult to find these days (even on Netflix).

If you're talking about 1997-98 then fine but 1999 besides the economy and video games is not appealing to me. Also, you're definitely not in the minority because most people online RAVE about the late '90s. 1999 was when pretty much every genre that defined the 1990s went almost completely absent (grunge, adult contemporary, gangsta rap, R&B, eurodance, Britpop, even Country). With all of those genres almost absent what took there places for the most part?.....Nu-metal, Teen pop, post-grunge, Latin pop, Bubblegum pop & europop, urban contemporary. Don't get me wrong, 1999 had a few good to great songs but overall....just isn't for me when it comes to music and fashion.

I'm sorry if I'm in the minority, but I really think the late 90s were not awful especially 1999. First and foremost, there was more than just teen pop and eurodance. I take it most people here seem to forget about rock, hip-hop, R&B and even adult contemporary that were all on the charts in that era. Second, that era had amazing video games at that time considering that it introduced many franchises that some are now classics. Third, the economy was so fantastic that almost everyone could afford anything and last, there were many memorable TV shows that unfortunately seem to be difficult to find these days (even on Netflix).


I loved 1999 music wise. The build up to the Phantom Menace was great. Accepting that it wasn't like the originals was hard after we all say it. Movies like the Matrix and Fight Club helped us forget. Plus there were all those news stories of fight clubs sprouting up across the country because of the movie. A lot happened in 1999. I felt so bored during 98.

If you're talking about 1997-98 then fine but 1999 besides the economy and video games is not appealing to me. Also, you're definitely not in the minority because most people online RAVE about the late '90s. 1999 was when pretty much every genre that defined the 1990s went almost completely absent (grunge, adult contemporary, gangsta rap, R&B, eurodance, Britpop, even Country). With all of those genres almost absent what took there places for the most part?.....Nu-metal, Teen pop, post-grunge, Latin pop, Bubblegum pop & europop, urban contemporary. Don't get me wrong, 1999 had a few good to great songs but overall....just isn't for me when it comes to music and fashion.


I get where you're coming from, but please don't take this the wrong way...1999 was more of a great year to experience imo. You felt the transition. You could see the pop culture change in the air and that alone was fascinating even if you didn't care much for what things were changing into.

I get where you're coming from, but please don't take this the wrong way...1999 was more of a great year to experience imo. You felt the transition. You could see the pop culture change in the air and that alone was fascinating even if you didn't care much for what things were changing into.

I also know where you're coming from. 1999 had the new millennium excitement and vibe to it with people both freaking out about and anticipating Y2K. That would be fun to experience (instead of me being a 5 month old baby in December 1999) but still I'm just not a fan of the pop culture overall from that time. Funnily enough, if this was 2012 or 2013...I would be completely on board with the late '90s hype train....oh what a difference 4-5 years makes.

I'm sorry if I'm in the minority, but I really think the late 90s were not awful especially 1999. First and foremost, there was more than just teen pop and eurodance. I take it most people here seem to forget about rock, hip-hop, R&B and even adult contemporary that were all on the charts in that era. Second, that era had amazing video games at that time considering that it introduced many franchises that some are now classics. Third, the economy was so fantastic that almost everyone could afford anything and last, there were many memorable TV shows that unfortunately seem to be difficult to find these days (even on Netflix).


I agree completely when it comes to video games. In fact, 1999 was the year that I really started playing video games, so I have a lot of fond childhood memories when it comes to that. I would also agree that there were still great T.V. shows on the air. Movies were good too, but on the whole, 1990-1998 was a bit stronger. There was some good music, but compared to the previous years of the 90s, it was really lacking.

I agree completely when it comes to video games. In fact, 1999 was the year that I really started playing video games, so I have a lot of fond childhood memories when it comes to that. I would also agree that there were still great T.V. shows on the air. Movies were good too, but on the whole, 1990-1998 was a bit stronger. There was some good music, but compared to the previous years of the 90s, it was really lacking.

I definitely agree with the parts in bold.

I also know where you're coming from. 1999 had the new millennium excitement and vibe to it with people both freaking out about and anticipating Y2K. That would be fun to experience (instead of me being a 5 month old baby in December 1999) but still I'm just not a fan of the pop culture overall from that time. Funnily enough, if this was 2012 or 2013...I would be completely on board with the late '90s hype train....oh what a difference 4-5 years makes.


It's really funny because for awhile, I wasn't feeling the late-late 90s because I was against early 2000 culture (still kinda am) and the late-late 90s is really when the 2000s began. It really didn't help that so many people born between 94-98 keep calling themselves 90s kids and reminiscing about 99-02. lol.

What exactly about the last few years make you sour on the late 90s?

Alright. So we're super off the road and hitting cows and sh#t.

I don't think we'll know for sure when the last traces of the '00s died until somewhere in the 2000s when we're out of the 10s but man did the vibe feel totally different by 2013. I think 2012 was the transition year.

It's really funny because for awhile, I wasn't feeling the late-late 90s because I was against early 2000 culture (still kinda am) and the late-late 90s is really when the 2000s began. It really didn't help that so many so people born between 94-98 keep calling themselves 90s kids and reminiscing about 99-02. lol.

What exactly about the last few years make you sour on the late 90s?

I know you didn't say this but I just want to clear things up a bit...I don't hate the late '90s.

I don't really know why I lost interest in the late '90s...I guess because I was young (12-14) and thought since I was born in the late '90s it must have been a super cool amazing time and I saw so many people online loving the late '90s. I saw so many articles on BuzzFeed and video on YouTube romanticizing the late '90s and I fell in love with the time period but now that I'm 18...I look back and my "tastes" have changed.

Alright. So we're super off the road and hitting cows and sh#t.

I don't think we'll know for sure when the last traces of the '00s died until somewhere in the 2000s when we're out of the 10s but man did the vibe feel totally different by 2013. I think 2012 was the transition year.

2012 was exactly like 2011. 2013 was the true transitional year.

2012 was exactly like 2011. 2013 was the true transitional year.


Hmmm. maybe you're right.

2017.  :-X

2017.  :-X

Off with your head...>:(.

2012 was exactly like 2011. 2013 was the true transitional year.


I think the transition began in 2012, but it trickled in slowly before completing in the second half of 2013.

In 2012, you had Carly Rae Jepsen's "Call Me Maybe", which was hugely instrumental in bringing in the mid '10s sound and pushing electropop aside.  Then you had Macklemore debut that fall.  Macklemore is one of the definitive artists of the mid '10s.  2012, especially the second half, had a lot of mid '10s influence.  It's just the early '10s hadn't quite been pushed out yet.  That happened sometime in 2013.

Also, the Hunger Games came out in 2012 and that is a mid '10s thing in my opinion.  That blocky, dystopian font that everyone was using (its in decline now) really took off in 2012.

I wonder if the 2010s will be remembered for anything profound (besides technology) like how we remember previous decades.

I think the transition began in 2012, but it trickled in slowly before completing in the second half of 2013.

In 2012, you had Carly Rae Jepsen's "Call Me Maybe", which was hugely instrumental in bringing in the mid '10s sound and pushing electropop aside.  Then you had Macklemore debut that fall.  Macklemore is one of the definitive artists of the mid '10s.  2012, especially the second half, had a lot of mid '10s influence.  It's just the early '10s hadn't quite been pushed out yet.  That happened sometime in 2013.


I miss Macklemore. Why did the pop world drop him?

I wonder if the 2010s will be remembered for anything profound (besides technology) like how we remember previous decades.


Sure it will.

The '10s are the new '60s.  It's going to be remembered for the internal political tension and the culture war between old and modern ideologies.  The culture, for the most part, has went right along with that zeitgeist.  Like the '60s, the '10s are ending with conservatives winning the battle but ultimately losing the war because they can slow the momentum but can't stop it.  I think the story of the '10s will be social justice warriors vs. the alt-right, and the building tension starting with Obama's election and culminating in Trump's election.

Sure it will.

The '10s are the new '60s.  It's going to be remembered for the internal political tension and the culture war between old and modern ideologies.  The culture, for the most part, has went right along with that zeitgeist.  Like the '60s, the '10s are ending with conservatives winning the battle but ultimately losing the war because they can slow the momentum but can't stop it.  I think the story of the '10s will be social justice warriors vs. the alt-right, and the building tension starting with Obama's election and culminating in Trump's election.

I don't know, I guess...:-\\. When it's 2030 and I'm 31....what will I tell the kiddies of my high school years? I can't say they were awesome and "Oh back in '17, we didn't have (blank music/tech) and this was so huge back then".

I think the transition began in 2012, but it trickled in slowly before completing in the second half of 2013.

In 2012, you had Carly Rae Jepsen's "Call Me Maybe", which was hugely instrumental in bringing in the mid '10s sound and pushing electropop aside.  Then you had Macklemore debut that fall.  Macklemore is one of the definitive artists of the mid '10s.  2012, especially the second half, had a lot of mid '10s influence.  It's just the early '10s hadn't quite been pushed out yet.  That happened sometime in 2013.

Call Me Maybe was released in Fall of 2011... So it makes no difference whatsoever. It's just another pop song from the early 10s.

Macklemore got really popular in 2013, not 2012. 2012 was 2011 part 2. No difference at all. The transition started in February 2013.

Also, the Hunger Games came out in 2012 and that is a mid '10s thing in my opinion.  That blocky, dystopian font that everyone was using (its in decline now) really took off in 2012.

One movie does not mean the start to another culture. The movie started filming in 2010 or 2011 as well.

I don't know, I guess...:-\\. When it's 2030 and I'm 31....what will I tell the kiddies of my high school years? I can't say they were awesome and "Oh back in '17, we didn't have (blank music/tech) and this was so huge back then".


I will be 43/44 in 2032. Whoa.

Now back to topic, I feel that 2013 was a full on 10's year. With 2014 having no more 00's things left.

I will be 43/44 in 2032. Whoa.

Now back to topic, I feel that 2013 was a full on 10's year. With 2014 having no more 00's things left.

I said 2030 not 2032.. ;).

Anyways, 2013 was the first year where I felt that the '00s (yes, even the late '00s) were truly gone.

It's really funny because for awhile, I wasn't feeling the late-late 90s because I was against early 2000 culture (still kinda am) and the late-late 90s is really when the 2000s began. It really didn't help that so many people born between 94-98 keep calling themselves 90s kids and reminiscing about 99-02. lol.

What exactly about the last few years make you sour on the late 90s?


They sometimes even say that "the 90's lasted until 2004", which is idiotic. Even 99s are part of that bandwagon (not us though).

2010/2011. imo.

They sometimes even say that "the 90's lasted until 2004", which is idiotic. 

I agree, that is very dumb to say.

They sometimes even say that "the 90's lasted until 2004", which is idiotic. Even 99s are part of that bandwagon (not us though).

I've even heard people born in 2001 say that, even though they don't really remember 2004, topkek.

I've even heard people born in 2001 say that, even though they don't really remember 2004, topkek.

A 2001 born can remember 2004 but I understand what you're saying, kek :).

A 2001 born can remember 2004 but I understand what you're saying, kek :).

Not exactly sharply though

5-12 are the "sharp years" of your childhood, imho

Not exactly sharply though

5-12 are the "sharp years" of your childhood, imho

I know but they can still remember 2004. Anyways, I get what you're saying.

I know but they can still remember 2004. Anyways, I get what you're saying.


They could vaguely remember 2004, but not by a lot.

They could vaguely remember 2004, but not by a lot.

I can remember 2002 pretty decently not clear but decent. I'm just saying that a 2001 born saying they remember 2004 isn't far fetched.

They sometimes even say that "the 90's lasted until 2004", which is idiotic. Even 99s are part of that bandwagon (not us though).

It annoys me when they say that because they're really referring to the late 90s influence lasting until 2004, even though the late 90s are barely 90s.

The real 90s were late 1991-1996. 1997-1999 weren't the 90s, they were a weird parallel universe where everything suddenly went from being rustic and grungy to being bubbly, futuristic, and girly.

It annoys me when they say that because they're really referring to the late 90s influence lasting until 2004, even though the late 90s are barely 90s.

The real 90s were late 1991-1996. 1997-1999 weren't the 90s, they were a weird parallel universe where everything suddenly went from being rustic and grungy to being bubbly, futuristic, and girly.

Overall I agree but one thing is I think the real '90s was mid/late 1993 until early 1997.

It annoys me when they say that because they're really referring to the late 90s influence lasting until 2004, even though the late 90s are barely 90s.

The real 90s were late 1991-1996. 1997-1999 weren't the 90s, they were a weird parallel universe where everything suddenly went from being rustic and grungy to being bubbly, futuristic, and girly.

The late 90s were dead and gone by 2004 as well in my opinion.

It annoys me when they say that because they're really referring to the late 90s influence lasting until 2004, even though the late 90s are barely 90s.

The real 90s were late 1991-1996. 1997-1999 weren't the 90s, they were a weird parallel universe where everything suddenly went from being rustic and grungy to being bubbly, futuristic, and girly.

??? ??? ???
WTF?! Are you kidding me?! 1997 and 1998 were still as 90s you could get.
1999 I'll agree with tho.

The late 90s were dead and gone by 2004 as well in my opinion.

Thank you Slim! The late 90s were gone before 1999 was even over.
Although, that's probably his age talking. He probably sees 1997 being closer to 2000 than 1994. When really, 1997 was still a world away from what 1999 would bring us.

Overall I agree but one thing is I think the real '90s was mid/late 1993 until early 1998.

Fixed for ya! ;)

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Are you freaking kidding me?! 1997 and 1998 were still as 90s you could get.
1999 I'll agree with tho.

1994-1996 are as '90s as you can get bruv. 1997 and 1998 were the start of millennium culture which was not 100% '90s.


Fixed for ya! ;)

You ruined it :).

1994-1996 are as '90s as you can get bruv. 1997 and 1998 were the start of millennium culture which was not 100% '90s.
You ruined it :) .

1997 and 1998 was regular late 90s. not quite millennium culture.

1997 and 1998 was regular late 90s. not quite millennium culture.

The Millennium culture first appeared in 1997 and 1998. Of course, '97 and '98 were regular late 90s and that's why they are not totally '90s

??? ??? ???
WTF?! Are you kidding me?! 1997 and 1998 were still as 90s you could get.
1999 I'll agree with tho.

I'm half-kidding. 1997-1998 was still the 90s though a different breed of 90s.

I'm half-kidding. 1997-1998 was still the 90s though a different breed of 90s.

Exactly, the regular late 90s...


I used to think millennium culture was late 90s AND early 00s culture together. BOY WAS I WRONG! They're actually all distinct from each other.
Regular late 90s being: 1997-1998, Millennium culture: 1999-2001 Early 00s being: Late 2001-2003

I'm half-kidding. 1997-1998 was still the 90s though a different breed of 90s.

BTW, I figured... I was also half sleep when I made that comment! ;D ;D ;D ;)

Man, I'll never EVER type when I'm just waking up EVER again! ;D ;)

It annoys me when they say that because they're really referring to the late 90s influence lasting until 2004, even though the late 90s are barely 90s.

The real 90s were late 1991-1996. 1997-1999 weren't the 90s, they were a weird parallel universe where everything suddenly went from being rustic and grungy to being bubbly, futuristic, and girly.


The earlier traces of that shift were apparent in the mid 90s, like after 93 or 94, with groups like Dave Matthews Band, Boyz II Men, Hootie and others. Granted I like much of the music from this time, but the shift started happening well before 1997. Also, the show Friends was a move in that direction.

It annoys me when they say that because they're really referring to the late 90s influence lasting until 2004, even though the late 90s are barely 90s.

The real 90s were late 1991-1996. 1997-1999 weren't the 90s, they were a weird parallel universe where everything suddenly went from being rustic and grungy to being bubbly, futuristic, and girly.


I agree with late 1991-1996 being the real 90's. However, 1997-1998 still felt very 90's as well, even though by then you knew that the culture was going to change.

Fall 1996 - Summer 1998 just seemed like the classic late 90's to me.

I agree with late 1991-1996 being the real 90's. However, 1997-1998 still felt very 90's as well, even though by then you knew that the culture was going to change.

Fall 1996 - Summer 1998 just seemed like the classic late 90's to me.

I agree with you in bold.

However, I think mid/late 1993 until late 1996/early 1997 as the "real" '90s.

The last significant traces of the 00s were in 2010, but they were rapidly disappearing. I remember 2011-2012 feeling very 10s, but the late 00s still seemed somewhat relevant; that was no longer the case in 2013. I knew then and there that we had entered into the thick of the 10s. Interestingly enough, that's when this whole nostalgia craze kicked in for me. All of a sudden, out of nowhere, I found myself only listening to music from the late 90s.

The last significant traces of the 00s were in 2010, but they were rapidly disappearing. I remember 2011-2012 feeling very 10s, but the late 00s still seemed somewhat relevant; that was no longer the case in 2013. I knew then and there that we had entered into the thick of the 10s. Interestingly enough, that's when this whole nostalgia craze kicked in for me. All of a sudden, out of nowhere, I found myself only listening to music from the late 90s.


The first sign of traces started dying in 2007 & 2008 every last piece was blown out month by month.
By 2009 we were living in a world 25% of the 2000sness

2013.

2013 IMO, but even then it was very little. 2014 has no 2000s influence at all.

It wasn't 2013 it was 2011 at the latest.

It wasn't 2013 it was 2011 at the latest.


Electropop, 7th gen consoles, Facebook and Twitter being the only big social media, first "era" smartphones(before IOS7), Scene and Swoopy hairstyles went away or stopped being the focus in 2013. Also other stuff but it would take even longer to type it out.

Electropop, 7th gen consoles, Facebook and Twitter being the only big social media, first "era" smartphones(before IOS7), Scene and Swoopy hairstyles went away or stopped being the focus in 2013. Also other stuff but it would take even longer to type it out.

Electropop is 2010s, not 2000s.. Hell aspects of electropop (EDM) are still around today. And 2011 is when smartphones became commonplace, not 2013. Everyone had a smartphone in 2013.

Electropop is 2010s, not 2000s.. Hell aspects of electropop (EDM) are still around today. And 2011 is when smartphones became commonplace, not 2013. Everyone had a smartphone in 2013.


Electropop started in like 2006 and exploded in 2008. First era smartphones started in 2007 with the release of the iphone and the new era of smartphones arguably started 2013 because IOS7(revolutionised flat UI design).

Electropop started in like 2006 and exploded in 2008. First era smartphones started in 2007 with the release of the iphone and the new era of smartphones arguably started 2013 because IOS7(revolutionised flat UI design).

Firstly everyone knows electropop is a signature 2010s sound. It has nothing to do with the 2000s. When 2009 came everyone knew we were in the 2010s because of the new electropop sound. Lady Gaga is a 2010s singer, not a 2000s one.

If you wanna say it had its roots in 2006, you may as well say it had its roots in the '80s. And so what if Sexy Back came out in 2006? That is a futuristic song and 2006 was already futuristic and leaving the classic 2000s culture anyway.

Secondly, the flat design started all the way back in 2008. Look up "Pepsi Happy 2009 commercial" on YouTube and you will see commercials had the flat design already in 2009.